The Challenge: What Ifs

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Did Evelyn have any weaknesses? I only seen 2 seasons with her and her recent ones so I can't remember her being bad at anything lol 

from what I can remember working with a partner wasn't her strong suit 

I'm speaking of Fresh Meat when I say that I don't really recall any other Evelyn season but that one so I might be mistaken 

Evelyn's only losses aside from the one she threw to KellyAnne were both Fresh Meat seasons where she was probably stronger than her male partner going up against pretty strong guys in Wes & Landon. Crazy that she has the most female wins yet she could have easily had a couple more, she probably wins the ruins if she didn't throw it and her team finished Gauntlet III first, just lost becuase of easy. Suck that the two seasons she skipped between 12-19 were the duel seasons

Jodi was in amazing shape that season, I think it would have been an evenly matched season if she was able to make it to the final. I like Jodi better so I prob would still be biased and say Jodi, but easily would have been super close between the two of them.  (Also whoever said in a perfect world Tina would have been in the alliance of rando s I woud have loved to see that too...)

that being said, what if Tina actually played during the Duel and didn't go out striking Beth? Would that have changed the game any?

Jodi was in amazing shape that season, I think it would have been an evenly matched season if she was able to make it to the final. I like Jodi better so I prob would still be biased and say Jodi, but easily would have been super close between the two of them.  (Also whoever said in a perfect world Tina would have been in the alliance of rando s I woud have loved to see that too...)

that being said, what if Tina actually played during the Duel and didn't go out striking Beth? Would that have changed the game any?

It would change a bit since she probably had friends to protect her. Tina was not a great competitor tho. She was all talk. 

What if Adam Royer & Nany and Jemmye & Knight made the Exes cast? Who would they replace and what would've happened that season?

What if Adam Royer & Nany and Jemmye & Knight made the Exes cast? Who would they replace and what would've happened that season?

Probably Nate & Priscilla and idk tyrie & Jasmine maybe. Overall I doubt either would change how it ended tbh

What if Adam Royer & Nany and Jemmye & Knight made the Exes cast? Who would they replace and what would've happened that season?

I would say Jasmine/Tyrie and Nate/Priscilla. Don't think much would change though Jemmye/Knight would prob do as well as they did on Exes 2 being the weakest team there. Nany/Adam would be a solid daily team along with Dustin/Heather but I'm sure that alliance would be targeted and Nany/Adam would have been taken out by a Emily/Ty or Abe/Cara somewhere around halfway. 

What if on BOTS there were two Las Vegas teams instead of the hybrid so Nany/Cooke/Leroy/Dustin and Trishelle/Alton and the other two that were rumored (can't remember who). Would it have changed the dynamic much? Would they have worked together? Does Alton still quit?  Does San Diego still control a majority of the game and win the whole thing?

 

What if Adam Royer & Nany and Jemmye & Knight made the Exes cast? Who would they replace and what would've happened that season?

I would say Jasmine/Tyrie and Nate/Priscilla. Don't think much would change though Jemmye/Knight would prob do as well as they did on Exes 2 being the weakest team there. Nany/Adam would be a solid daily team along with Dustin/Heather but I'm sure that alliance would be targeted and Nany/Adam would have been taken out by a Emily/Ty or Abe/Cara somewhere around halfway. 

What if on BOTS there were two Las Vegas teams instead of the hybrid so Nany/Cooke/Leroy/Dustin and Trishelle/Alton and the other two that were rumored (can't remember who). Would it have changed the dynamic much? Would they have worked together? Does Alton still quit?  Does San Diego still control a majority of the game and win the whole thing?

I feel like Arissa would have held them back but I think maybe Alton would have played ball there with more people he was familiar with. I think they both could have given San Diego a run for their money since both teams would have worked much better with people from their own seasons instead of being divided.

what if the Road Rules team of Rachel, Derrick, Darrell, and Katie did happen instead of Fresh Meat? How would the game have changed? Personally I think they would have dominated. 

What if on Final Reckoning they had brought Cory on to replace Devin for Bananas instead of Tony and the original pairing of Tony/Madison entered the game.....How would Tony/Madison have competed and would it have changed the game dynamic at all

What if on Final Reckoning they had brought Cory on to replace Devin for Bananas instead of Tony and the original pairing of Tony/Madison entered the game.....How would Tony/Madison have competed and would it have changed the game dynamic at all

Cory & Bananas would have been the real game changer, it would mean both Bananas & Zach are partnered with LL/TYB and would likely have to play ball with them. Tony & Madison probably don't last too long

What if on WOTW2  ninja gets sent in against nany in the final elim instead of ash.  Nany probably still loses but would ninja switch teams to run the final with the Dee? If she does how does that change the final result? 

What if on WOTW2  ninja gets sent in against nany in the final elim instead of ash.  Nany probably still loses but would ninja switch teams to run the final with the Dee? If she does how does that change the final result? 

No she doesn't IMO, she seemed happy with her group. Even if she did I think UK still wins, even with same weights Paulie probably still dies and Zach probably makes the girls carry so he can take breaks.

Speaking of the WOTW2 final I wonder if Ashley would have been able to solve the puzzle at the end had she not gotten purged and won it for team US

 I dont think so because cara probably still micromanages and wont allow anyone to have a voice in the puzzle.

What if Jordan & Marlon solve the puzzle before Frank & Bananas in the part 1 of Rivals 2. Who wins CT & Wes or Jordan & Marlon?

What if Jordan & Marlon solve the puzzle before Frank & Bananas in the part 1 of Rivals 2. Who wins CT & Wes or Jordan & Marlon?

I say CT & West still win.....both had the experience of running finals before and were both in very good shape at the time

What if Dirty 30 didn't have a purge or a redemption house...how would the season have differed - in terms of how long people lasted and who the final six would be. 

What if Dirty 30 didn't have a purge or a redemption house...how would the season have differed - in terms of how long people lasted and who the final six would be. 

Very tough to say, I think the female side is pretty much the same, maybe Veronica gets into that top 5 over Jenna if Kailah still takes her out but probably the same top 3, though without the top 5 purge maybe Kailah beats 1 of Tori/CM/Camilla and gets to the final. Possible Amanda changes things a bit but I don't see her having any numbers with Jailah working with CM/Camila. 

Guys is way more complicated, not only is Darrell in the game, but Cory doesn't give the vet guys a reason to go after TYB all season. I can't see Bananas be as willing to coast to a final knowing Darrell could be there as well as Jordan (who tbf wasn't viewed as the GOAT final runner like he is now), he'd pretty much have to make a big move at some point. We would have gotten even more great elimination matchups though with Darrell, CT, Bananas, Derrick, Jordan, Leroy, Hunter & Nelson all fighting for three spots in the final without a purge

There's also a decent chance Tony doesn't come back if he loses to Ammo that early and doesn't come back

What if Violetta was Tony's partner on Rivals III like it was originally planned? How would the season play out and would they get far?

 

What if Mtv stuck with Old School vs New School instead of WOTW2 ?

Who would have been on the season? Which team would have won?

i think any of the people Shane got on that Instagram live would have been possibilities. Either Tori or Brad, Kendal, Rachel, Coral, Tina, Veronica, Darrell, Shane, Mark, Susie, Syrus, Derrick, Wes, CT, Bananas, Aneesa, Cara Maria, and Laurel would prob be the legit old schoolers that would have a shot, (not that some of the regulars I'd want to see) but it prob would include a larger net through anyone that was on any Real World. (Like Nany, Sarah (if Susie did it I'm sure she would come back), Marie, Ashely etc) I would have hoped for even more of a deep dive though into cast members we haven't seen but that's me being greedy. Still beyond sad this season didn't happen.  

i think old school would have a powerful social game if the right people were there with each other. It'd be def interesting to watch and to see who would win. But after seeing how great the newbies did on WotW2 - the vets stood a great chance lol

I can guarantee you that the majority of those people wouldn't have been on the old school team based on what I heard new school would be very likely be starting from the season where Big Brother & UK were introduce . It 100% would have been almost the same as we got with a few switch like Ninja, Josh and Paulie/Kam very likely being on new School.

Old school- Nany, Laurel, Cara, Ashley M, Tori (Jenna very likely , Aneesa or Kailah that was an alternate that season. Maybe 1 surprised.)

Zach, Leroy, Jordan, Bananas , Wes, CT  (Devin was an alternate probably would have been on & then maybe somewhat like Brad/Nelson)

What if the WOTW 2 final was individual? How do you think everyone would have placed?

this is my guess

  1. Tori
  2. Kam
  3. Ashley
  4. Cara
  5. Dee
  6. Ninja

 

  1. Zach
  2. Leroy
  3. Jordan
  4. CT
  5. Rogan
  6. Paulie

Ninja as annoying as she is she would have either won or end on the top. She is pretty smart and has shown she can handle an individual final. She finish on top on war of the world 1 final and it was harder than war of the world 2 final.

Zach and Leroy that is horrible at puzzles wouldn't beat Jordan in a final. Leroy need someone that pick up on his weakness he would never win an individual final. Jordan had that final on his bag.

 

 

What if Mtv stuck with Old School vs New School instead of WOTW2 ?

Who would have been on the season? Which team would have won?

i think any of the people Shane got on that Instagram live would have been possibilities. Either Tori or Brad, Kendal, Rachel, Coral, Tina, Veronica, Darrell, Shane, Mark, Susie, Syrus, Derrick, Wes, CT, Bananas, Aneesa, Cara Maria, and Laurel would prob be the legit old schoolers that would have a shot, (not that some of the regulars I'd want to see) but it prob would include a larger net through anyone that was on any Real World. (Like Nany, Sarah (if Susie did it I'm sure she would come back), Marie, Ashely etc) I would have hoped for even more of a deep dive though into cast members we haven't seen but that's me being greedy. Still beyond sad this season didn't happen.  

i think old school would have a powerful social game if the right people were there with each other. It'd be def interesting to watch and to see who would win. But after seeing how great the newbies did on WotW2 - the vets stood a great chance lol

I can guarantee you that the majority of those people wouldn't have been on the old school team based on what I heard new school would be very likely be starting from the season where Big Brother & UK were introduce . It 100% would have been almost the same as we got with a few switch like Ninja, Josh and Paulie/Kam very likely being on new School.

Old school- Nany, Laurel, Cara, Ashley M, Tori (Jenna very likely , Aneesa or Kailah that was an alternate that season. Maybe 1 surprised.)

Zach, Leroy, Jordan, Bananas , Wes, CT  (Devin was an alternate probably would have been on & then maybe somewhat like Brad/Nelson)

ugh I know you're right and it kills me

Veronica wasn't in talks to be on old school? 

So your saying Kailah and Tori would've been on the old school team???

 

What if Mtv stuck with Old School vs New School instead of WOTW2 ?

Who would have been on the season? Which team would have won?

i think any of the people Shane got on that Instagram live would have been possibilities. Either Tori or Brad, Kendal, Rachel, Coral, Tina, Veronica, Darrell, Shane, Mark, Susie, Syrus, Derrick, Wes, CT, Bananas, Aneesa, Cara Maria, and Laurel would prob be the legit old schoolers that would have a shot, (not that some of the regulars I'd want to see) but it prob would include a larger net through anyone that was on any Real World. (Like Nany, Sarah (if Susie did it I'm sure she would come back), Marie, Ashely etc) I would have hoped for even more of a deep dive though into cast members we haven't seen but that's me being greedy. Still beyond sad this season didn't happen.  

i think old school would have a powerful social game if the right people were there with each other. It'd be def interesting to watch and to see who would win. But after seeing how great the newbies did on WotW2 - the vets stood a great chance lol

I can guarantee you that the majority of those people wouldn't have been on the old school team based on what I heard new school would be very likely be starting from the season where Big Brother & UK were introduce . It 100% would have been almost the same as we got with a few switch like Ninja, Josh and Paulie/Kam very likely being on new School.

Old school- Nany, Laurel, Cara, Ashley M, Tori (Jenna very likely , Aneesa or Kailah that was an alternate that season. Maybe 1 surprised.)

Zach, Leroy, Jordan, Bananas , Wes, CT  (Devin was an alternate probably would have been on & then maybe somewhat like Brad/Nelson)

Thank god we didn't get OS Vs NS if that was gonna be the OS team.

Veronica wasn't in talks to be on old school? 

yeah that would be shocking especially with her recent return (among many other actual old schoolers) 

I still think a cutthroat 2 scenario with three teams one of which being legit old school would be perfect. 

 

Veronica wasn't in talks to be on old school? 

yeah that would be shocking especially with her recent return (among many other actual old schoolers) 

I still think a cutthroat 2 scenario with three teams one of which being legit old school would be perfect. 

i agree but making the old school cut-off at around  Rivals 3 area for old school, and then people who appeared for the first time/got popular during the Invasion-Final Reckoning Era as being like the mid-school/new school and then the last team being rookies

 

reasoning for making the old school cut off then being that it allows us to get 2-3 legit old schoolers, but then the familiar faces like Nany, Jordan etc that casuals are familiar with

Veronica wasn't in talks to be on old school? 

Casting for it didnt got that deep the format was change early on but once again the talk for was to make the cut around Dirty 30/vendettas whatever season was the first one for UK/Big Brother. 

What if Nany wins the elimination against Ashley on WOTW2?

What if Nany wins the elimination against Ashley on WOTW2?

Nothing she would have been purged on the final first part she isn't beating anyone on either team in a puzzle

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