[QUOTE=v123;412734]It seems that she starts off really good friends with a lot of girls, but eventually these relationships go sour.
Was great friends Laurel - now on bad terms
Was great friends with Jenn - bad after Rivals
Was great friends with Camila - now average-ish, not great not horrible
Was great friends with Diem - now not so great after Rivals II
Was great friends with Mandi - not so great after Rivals[/QUOTE]
What happened with her and Jenn?
I think she got pissed off that Jenn voted with the numbers to send her and Camila in on the first Rivals. She called Jenn "slimy" after that. Before that, they were super cool.
[QUOTE=Viegasjuice;412732]Dont take this disrespectfully because it's not intended to be. No one cares about someone else's deformity(unless your a ****** person). Your a regular person just like all of us, so is Jordan, and I used to think it was cool he was confident and put out 100%. Now he's just way over his head with the cockiness and he's so unbearable to watch or listen to. I mean, if he can bananas bearable and like able, there's def something wrong here.[/QUOTE]
I am aware that no one cares, because most human beings aren't physically deformed and people tend to think only about themselves. You won't understand unless you have a deformity yourself. And the man is [B]missing a hand[/B] so he obviously is not "a regular person" because regular people do not have one hand.
Just watched the episode.
That CT/Jordan spat was dumb. Nothing there to see.
TJ was annoying during the challenge.
Devyn made the right choice in voting for Theresa. She would've been bumped up a few spots on Laurel's hit list if she Voted Laurel. It's good to see someone playing smart for once.
I really admire how Swift handled losing. He just saw it as no big deal and just took it all in stride. I really respect that. I hope he comes back.
Camilla....THANK GOD! One less Non-Castmember off my T.V.
[QUOTE=toenails;412739]I am aware that no one cares, because most human beings aren't physically deformed and people tend to think only about themselves. You won't understand unless you have a deformity yourself. And the man is [B]missing a hand[/B] so he obviously is not "a regular person" because regular people do not have one hand.[/QUOTE]
I didn't say "no one cares" because we don't give a damn. That's why I said no disrespect because I meant it respectfully, as in we don't judge people because of it, atleast I don't.
[QUOTE=toenails;412730]I know I am in the extreme minority, but I still actually like Jordan. I suffer from a physical deformity myself (pectus excavatum) so I can relate to Jordan's need to overcompensate. I really appreciate the drive that he has, in spite of his circumstances.[/QUOTE]
He annoys me but I still admire lots of things about him. His ridiculous over the top ego and annoying behavior SO obviously come from his wanting to prove himself, and like you said overcompensating. I don't dislike him as a person because of this, and I also admire his drive.
Edit: I will always have a soft spot for him from Portland, from that episode where Nia just totally tore him down and said the most awful things to him. It really made me very sad for him. His reaction there I think showed the true Jordan, and he's very insecure and sad. So this crazy behavior I really see as a mask. And yes I'm sensitive. I'm a girl. I also felt the same way about Frank's crazy behavior on San Diego because he was obviously having a mental breakdown about being gay/appearing gay on TV.
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;412735]Anyone else wish Camila went with her first choice and Jessica went home?[/QUOTE]
I wasn't
But I was wishing that Both Theresa and Camilla somehow both lost and both had to go home.
I think the issue with the Jordan not having a hand thing is how he carries himself this season. Last season it was like I know that you think I'm the underdog but I still think I can come in here and compete with these guys and perform my *** off.
This season it's I'm the biggest baddest guy on the block and no one else is on my level. It's when you get to that point that I don't really care that he doesn't have a hand. If he wants to be condescending and say he's the best guy there, he should be held up as the best guy there and judged by that standard. And last I checked of six challenges he's DQed 3 times, been in the bottom group once, been middle of the pack once and done a good job on the Ball Suit one.
The telling moment for me was last night when CT got the 13 stripes question wrong. Bananas goes "At least you didn't say Dutch". He had a brain **** and said something stupid, so he wasn't going to crap on other people who did the same. Jordan on the other hand, later when watching on the ground is going WHAAAT?! JESS DOESN'T KNOW THE F. STANDS FOR FITZGERALD? WHAT AN IDIOT! Well ******* you missed all of your questions. So maybe shut the **** up. Say what you want about Johnny Bananas, when he loses, he takes it on the chin.
[QUOTE=Viegasjuice;412741]I didn't say "no one cares" because we don't give a damn. That's why I said no disrespect because I meant it respectfully, as in we don't judge people because of it, atleast I don't.[/QUOTE]
I disagree with this. People without disabilities will never know what it's like to live daily life with one. Obviously I think people should not be discriminated against on the basis of disabilities, but I think those with disabilities deserve the recognition that they have had to go through struggles and unfortunate discrimination (on the Challenge, [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microaggression]microaggressions[/url] such as Johnny's comments about Jordan's hand) that those without disabilities have not had to go through. Yes, at the end of the day, we are all human, but those with disabilities have had to go through a little more in their lives based on their disability.
[QUOTE=Youssarian;412752]I disagree with this. People without disabilities will never know what it's like to live daily life with one. Obviously I think people should not be discriminated against on the basis of disabilities, but I think those with disabilities deserve the recognition that they have had to go through struggles and unfortunate discrimination (on the Challenge, [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microaggression"]microaggressions[/URL] such as Johnny's comments about Jordan's hand) that those without disabilities have not had to go through. Yes, at the end of the day, we are all human, but those with disabilities have had to go through a little more in their lives based on their disability.[/QUOTE]
Then Jordan should start acting humble and thankful that he can compete instead of trying to belittle everyone, being a huge hypocrite and thinking he's the new big dog. I don't care if you have a disability or not if you're going to disrespect me then expect me to retaliate guns blazin' so I don't mind Bananas telling this dude off.
[QUOTE=JayTee;412754]Then Jordan should start acting humble and thankful that he can compete instead of trying to belittle everyone, being a huge hypocrite and thinking he's the new big dog. I don't care if you have a disability or not if you're going to disrespect me then expect me to retaliate guns blazin' so I don't mind Bananas telling this dude off.[/QUOTE]
Oh, Jordan's behavior has definitely been over the top and he deserves to be told off, but a DISABILITY should not be the focus of Johnny's retaliation.
[QUOTE=JayTee;412754]Then Jordan should start acting humble and thankful that he can compete instead of trying to belittle everyone, being a huge hypocrite and thinking he's the new big dog. I don't care if you have a disability or not if you're going to disrespect me then expect me to retaliate guns blazin' so I don't mind Bananas telling this dude off.[/QUOTE]
I agree. While it was a little low blow of bananas to say that comment, you also have to understand when you start talking your smack and poking at people, the same will happen to you. It's fair game.
[QUOTE=JayTee;412754]Then Jordan should start acting humble and thankful that he can compete instead of trying to belittle everyone, being a huge hypocrite and thinking he's the new big dog. I don't care if you have a disability or not if you're going to disrespect me then expect me to retaliate guns blazin' so I don't mind Bananas telling this dude off.[/QUOTE]
Why should he act humble and thankful? He works hard to overcome some obstacles, he does that for himself, others don't do it for him. He obviously shouldn't belittle everyone, and that has nothing to do with his disability it's just how you're supposed to act. Bananas is totally right telling him off. He made a few bad comments about Jordan's hand but he apologized and I don't think he meant to be offensive.
[QUOTE=Viegasjuice;412758]I agree. While it was a little low blow of bananas to say that comment, you also have to understand when you start talking your smack and poking at people, the same will happen to you. It's fair game.[/QUOTE]
Jordan didn't seem to have a problem with the hand comment- not that i've seen atleast (or maybe they didn't show it)
Still. A low bllow
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;412735]Anyone else wish Camila went with her first choice and Jessica went home?[/QUOTE]
Nope. I can't stand Camila & I like Jess.
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;412735]Anyone else wish Camila went with her first choice and Jessica went home?[/QUOTE]
I don't hate Jess like everyone, but if it would have meant Camila would have stayed, sure.
Thoughts on the show.
- The last few episodes have been heavily focused on the tension created in the house thanks to the competition, which are creating enemies and forcing people to be a whole lot more political than they'd normally be in any other circumstances. But in one of the most unlikeliest opens to a challenge ever, Bananas actually gives Devyn a huge compliment. Who would've ever thought that was happen?
- Imagine if in The Challenge contracts they actually drafted a "I Want CT To Punch My Head In" release? The club stuff did nothing but pretty much fuel the eventual elimination round for Jordan, showing that he's the most hated man on the Challenge -- by far. With all this development of this persona and rivalry, Free Agents better get a good number out of his eventual elimination.
- Anyone kind of over trivia over water Challenges? They've been pulling this one since Duel 2, and while at first it was entertaining -- now it's just become a bit cliche. The best one I can remember occurred on Battle of the Exes, but I'll be honest, haven't been too excited about trivia challenges because they haven't been changed in the last five years. The only upside is that all the physical ability is sort of thrown out of the window and it allows for someone new to win. I'll admit though, watching this Challenge the questions weren't as easy as they've been before. I couldn't get correctly (on the first try) some of these questions on the ground, so I would've easily have been launched off that platform. But on the other end, what language do they speak in Australia? C'mon.
- Did Leroy get a new set of teeth like Ty?
- LOL @ TJ, for everything. This is the most I've ever enjoyed TJ, ever.
- Poor Camila, having flashbacks of Bob Marley immediately rushing back to her head. Nany seemed legit flustered by all of this pressure. Epic falls include: Aneesa, Preston, and Jordan's ********* flip. Zach and Devyn winning aren't a surprise to me, I'd peg them as some of the smarter of the few. "I have no idea what REM stands for, even though I listen to REM, in my car, all the time," says Laurel.
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- If there's anyone who's mastered the art of intimidation against these girls, it's certainly Laurel because what she did was INDEED a G move. She literally created her hit list on the show (completely ignoring Aneesa because apparently Aneesa's not a factor, at all) and said, if I come back -- which she will -- you will die. It's enough to make Devyn sort of **** her pants, and she sends in Theresa, which was honestly the smartest move. Although they're roommates, there's no way Theresa can, nor should be trusted after last week. Swift's decision to be thrown in isn't a surprise to anyone, doesn't make any waves at all, proving the type of caliber player that he is. Karma for throwing Brandon in? Probably.
- Elimination round was a LOT easier than it was the first time. You can notice the positioning of the poles and the ropes this time to make things slightly easier.
- At this point you've got to think CT knows which of the cards has the kill card on it, right? Is it the markings on the legs? Without even thinking twice.
- Anyone else can tell who's going home from their updated confessionals with new clothes and such? Maybe it's just me.
- Swift might have one of the most demoralizing losses in recent Challenge history, right up there with Big Easy eating Wes alive and Dunbar pulling a Dunbar and losing to Robb/Derek. He lost in a pulling contest to a guy with one hand. In record time. With absolutely no resistance. It puts in perspective that Swift's impressive physique may be all for show. Working out to look good for the camera. Here's the thing though, Jordan feels like he actually trumped a good competitor. This loss of Swift has inflated his head so much, that he's not even going to realize what's coming. This Bananas/Jordan thing better be the next episode, and MTV better promote that ****.
- As a huge fan of Camila, I'm always sad when she's eliminated from this show. You can tell from the tears that it's hard for her to accept defeat, but-- she eventually did. Plus I think her height came as a huge disadvantage because if she changed her position she would've easily been dragged back by Theresa. She's still one of the Top 10 competitors ever.
[B]After Show[/B]
- Instead of doing all of these after shows, why don't they just make these episodes 90 minutes long? I'd rather watch more Challenge than more Jonny Mosely.
- WOW at production going through the house looking for stuff. Just give the kids a computer. Give everyone at least one hour a day on the computer. Proxy block everything and monitor it.
- Can they have Evan, Kenny, Johnny and Frank, Jordan, and Zach on one Challenge? How insane would those alliances be?
- Brad looks good man, I thought he would've been balding or something, but he looks good and rested. Not as big as he used to be, but he could kill it on a show. And actually gave some great analysis.
I have a conspiracy to make: do you think the reason why they didn't choose the climbing elimination for this episode (even though it was next in rotation) was because Jordan was in the draw? Since he's missing one hand Swift would have definitely had a good shot at eliminating Jordan and bring back his poppin' once again.
just watched this weeks episode and bonuses, my thoughts:
is it just me or was the trivial challenge even more entertaining this time around?? I lmao especially at Bananas. I think this was the most I've ever seen TJ laugh...you could tell he enjoyed the hell outta this lol
CT is officially getting on my nerves...he has mostly been wallpaper on this Challenge and when he finally opens his mouth, nothing but idiocy spills out.
I felt really bad for Camilla...losing to someone like Theresa is embarassing!
Aftershow: I really wish BMP would make my dreams come true and do a Duel III, as Brad said he would come back under the right circumstances. Also Swift is disgusting, I almost threw up watching that whole eating segment.
Bonus: How cute was Zach's crush on Rachel? I really wish she would come back as they would make the hottest Challenge couple EVER (and don't say this wouldn't work, she is bi not lesbian).
Overall this has been one of the better episodes and I am excited about the next one. Glad the ratings went back up a bit, and next week's should be even higher I think!
[QUOTE=JayTee;412782]I have a conspiracy: do you think the reason why they didn't choose the climbing elimination for this episode (even though it was next in rotation) was because Jordan was in the draw? Since he's missing one hand Swift would have definitely had a good shot at eliminating Jordan and bring back his poppin' once again.[/QUOTE]
you are obsessed with the whole poppin' thing arent you...
Can someone explain to me how Laurel's hit list worked? I was kind of confused because:
1. She left off Aneesa, and had her own name on there
2. She sandwiched Theresa, who I thought was her main target, between her own name and Cara's, who she would never vote for
3. Devyn is 2nd from the top, but during the episode Laurel said she wasn't even on her radar or something like that.
Anyone know?
[QUOTE=alaskak94;412787]Can someone explain to me how Laurel's hit list worked? I was kind of confused because:
1. She left off Aneesa, and had her own name on there
2. She sandwiched Theresa, who I thought was her main target, between her own name and Cara's, who she would never vote for
3. Devyn is 2nd from the top, but during the episode Laurel said she wasn't even on her radar or something like that.
Anyone know?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, looking at the list, I'm so confused with what Laurel was going for. Lol
[QUOTE=alaskak94;412787]Can someone explain to me how Laurel's hit list worked? I was kind of confused because:
1. She left off Aneesa, and had her own name on there
2. She sandwiched Theresa, who I thought was her main target, between her own name and Cara's, who she would never vote for
3. Devyn is 2nd from the top, but during the episode Laurel said she wasn't even on her radar or something like that.
Anyone know?[/QUOTE]
She just wrote the names of the girls left down in no particular order and pointed to the names in the order she was targeting them.
She might have left the numbers off, and put her own name on it, so if anyone found it her plans wouldn't be out in the open. According to one of the people on battle of the seasons(Marie?), they have to give all notes to production, and a lot of times production will plant them in particular places to stir up drama.
I like Laurel more and more every episode lol. I hope she sticks with this matter of fact attitude.
And she looked soooooo pretty during the voting this episode. When Mark Long said in the afterbuzz that she looked like some sort of department store catalogue model I could totally see it.
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