The Challenge: All Stars 4- Episode Discussion Thread

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EDIT: didn't realize I wasn't in the season 5 thread...will post this message there lol

I don't know to chose as my vice president PsyPotato or TVandcoffee. Tvandcoffee will probably have a *** scandal with a campaign manager or something so to be safe I gotta go PsyPotato.

OMG oldschooler how scandalous do you think I am?! I can't help that Kefla gives me carnal urges but I swear I'm tame...for the most part Blum 3

Ok, you can be the campaign manager then. We are both aggressive when it comes to preserving All Stars. Potato is more pc and kind about it. We need her as the positive image of our campaign.

Count me in. Lets take down this Cloud regime and make this show great again! 

So I heard brandon and jemmye talked about what really happened with ayanna...

I tried listening but they both annoy me so I didnt get to that part. Maybe I will try again later. The part I did listen to what brandon giving his impression of tina. He said and I quote "I cannot stand that *****." And then later "you're married, thats how you talk?!" And "she'd be really attractive if she didn't talk."

i know tina is loud and probably grating to be around 24/7 especially if youre boring as ***, but *** THAT MAN. Cant handle a strong woman who has more personality in her pinky than he does his whole body. SD energy

Also, I really wish women would stop with the unnecessary cosmetic procedures. Is this what it looks like when fillers fade? Ew. 

I could be around Tina 24/7. Brandon has zero personality so I'm not shocked he hates being around someone with spice. His boring monotone *** can stay home.

So I heard brandon and jemmye talked about what really happened with ayanna...

I tried listening but they both annoy me so I didnt get to that part. Maybe I will try again later. The part I did listen to what brandon giving his impression of tina. He said and I quote "I cannot stand that *****." And then later "you're married, thats how you talk?!" And "she'd be really attractive if she didn't talk."

i know tina is loud and probably grating to be around 24/7 especially if youre boring as ***, but *** THAT MAN. Cant handle a strong woman who has more personality in her pinky than he does his whole body. SD energy

Wow. That's terrible from Brandon. F**k him.

Ok I found the Jem and Brandon convo. I just listened for the Janelle/Ayanna stuff:

  • Brandon said he never heard himself Ayanna say Janelle wasn't Black enough, but it was going around the house that she said it; he said he heard Ayanna say "I didn't know she was Black" 
  • Brandon said he never heard Janelle say she wanted to go against Jasmine
  • In terms of the Ayanna thing, Brandon said he did say what he heard and Ayanna was yelling at him telling him he was supposed to be a King; so in general they edited out almost anything with Ayanna related to race
  • Brandon confirmed Tina was the one adding things into the Ayanna stuff and said a lot was left on the cutting room floor
  • Brandon is doing Zach's podcast next month; apparently Zach flies the guests out, puts them in a hotel, and pays them. Where tf is he getting all of that money?!

     

     

    It just sucks because they have so many OGs wanting to do it. They can easily put together a cast for the OG fans and one the casuals would tune it too. It's so unnecessary bringing people that 99% of the fanbase doesn't want.

    It honestly seems like they intentionally go against what the fans want to prove that it's "their" show and that's sad 

    Are you here necklace? *points to head*. You taking all the words out of my mind. That's exactly how I feel production is thinking, "It's our show, we don't care what the fans think, you're going to get Logan and Colleen on All Stars whether you like it or not". 

    That's what happens when production's ego is as big as the cast members' smh 

    Whew, not miss Tina adding fuel to the fire.

    Ok Brandon also confirmed that Cara was the last vote in that recent episode. So, the vote was done and Rachel was going in, and Cara was protecting her star without changing anything about who was going into elimination.

    I think Janelle is going on Zach's podcast soon so I imagine we'll get a more direct account.

    Thank you Fiona for the recap!!!

    personally not a fan of brandon after that live. Jemmye asked him who was overrated and he said tony and rachel; he expected rachel to be big and he said he could "throw her off this cliff." Then when it came to partnering up for the challenge, he said he grabbed laurels arms and said something like "I got you *****."  

    like who hurt you???

    Ok Brandon also confirmed that Cara was the last vote in that recent episode. So, the vote was done and Rachel was going in, and Cara was protecting her star without changing anything about who was going into elimination.

    Idt Cara was ever a swing vote? By the time Cara was shown voting it was locked, no?

    Yes, some fans said it must be the edit jumping around and caras vote may have impacted others after and thats why kam was upset... no she was last, rachel was already in, kam was just upset she didnt have a blind follower.

    I want Kam to go on a podcast and explain why she is so entitled and thinks everyone must bow down to her wants.

    So I tuned into Jemmye's live with Brandon, and yall she was soooo annoying kept cutting him off. They're kind of all over the place with this.

    He made Janelle leaving more about who said what and why that Ayanna would get a hold of and squeeze on than the race/politic talk. She would say things like "Janelle not a real one, she's not that girl like people think she is, etc." He said he didn't know about their issues on AS2, and he didn't hear from Ayanna questioning Janelle's blackness but only heard about it. Maybe Janelle will speak more about this on Zach's podcast.

    He said Janelle never outright said she wanted to go against Jasmine, but scenarios were thrown out from who was available for her to go against. Idk, from that convo she had with Kam and Ayanna, she didn't outright say it but it seem like she lowkey pushed for Jasmine.

    He said they edit out him and Ayanna getting into it. After Ayanna asked Kam who are the people, Brandon said he turned around after he walked by and put her on blast that she did said to take out Kam and Leroy which is what blew her up and got in his face.

    He said it was a low blow to bring up Jasmine personal shit that she was going through out of nowhere just to give a show.

    After Ayanna walked out, he followed behind her to hash it out with her. But she said for him to get away from her. He thinks she is performative for to know where a camera is to go to put on a show only to play victim afterwards.

    Besides Ayanna, he couldn't stand Tina. He thought she was putting on for the cameras but realize that's really her lol. He thinks she's attractive if she doesn't talk. He also said there's a lot left on the cutting room floor when it comes to her, especially with Ayanna. In other words, she's the sidekick (obviously).

    He thinks Tony and Rachel are a bit overrated

    He thinks Rachel's move was dumb and played scared, but Cara's was smart.

    He thinks Veronica is attractive and intelligent.

    He loves Flora and she told him they should've been on the same show because they just dgaf lol

    Because she has a family..as if 75% of this cast didnt leave their kids and spouses at home. I usually like Kam but the entitlement is wild

    Brandon can't call anyone overrated lol.

    Ok Brandon also confirmed that Cara was the last vote in that recent episode. So, the vote was done and Rachel was going in, and Cara was protecting her star without changing anything about who was going into elimination.

    Wow, this makes Kam even more annoying. 

     

    Ok Brandon also confirmed that Cara was the last vote in that recent episode. So, the vote was done and Rachel was going in, and Cara was protecting her star without changing anything about who was going into elimination.

    Idt Cara was ever a swing vote? By the time Cara was shown voting it was locked, no?

    Some people speculated that it was edited to make her last but that in reality she was first and that's why Kam was upset. Brandon cleared that rumor up and confirmed she was the last to vote.

    So I tuned into Jemmye's live with Brandon, and yall she was soooo annoying kept cutting him off. They're kind of all over the place with this.

    Jemmye being annoying? 

    I want Kam to go on a podcast and explain why she is so entitled and thinks everyone must bow down to her wants.

    Because she has a family..as if 75% of this cast didnt leave their kids and spouses at home. I usually like Kam but the entitlement is wild

    I was thinking before the season, "imagine how entitled Kam and Leroy are gonna be now that they have kids." They're always insufferable and act like someone is a bad person if they don't do their bidding and it always grinds my gears... especially in Double Agents. So, now that they have kids, they're gonna be so insufferable if someone puts them in. I'm not ready. 

    I just think Kam felt a way because in her mind Cara was prob her #1 girl with their history and with others having her back and her not she felt a way. I don't think she should be upset at Cara it is a game but if they weren't so close she wouldn't have felt that way. 

    I want Kam to go on a podcast and explain why she is so entitled and thinks everyone must bow down to her wants.

    I mean she is mother duh lol. Jokes aside, I wouldn't say that since she's not mad at those who also didn't vote for Rachel. She felt like since her and Cara are #1s and are friends she would like for her to show support and have her back even when the votes were there for Rachel to go in. Seeing people who she barely knew showed their support but not Cara who she considered close made her feel some type of way. Basically a principle thing. Some people may not get it and are built different but it's whatever. She's open to read from subscribers to know if she overreacted or not.

    I forgot to mention there was something Brandon said about Katelynn that might get him cancelled but I forgot how it was worded. I'm sure yall got an idea what it is.

    I just think Kam felt a way because in her mind Cara was prob her #1 girl with their history and with others having her back and her not she felt a way. I don't think she should be upset at Cara it is a game but if they weren't so close she wouldn't have felt that way. 

    Yep, I think this is exactly it. Kam was hurt because someone she considered a closer friend didn't have her back. Kam is still in the wrong, don't get me wrong, but I think it's less about entitlement and more about friendship. These are humans playing the game and she's allowed to overract emotionally. 

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