The Challenge: All Stars 4- Episode Discussion Thread

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Has there ever been a longterm couple that was likable when they competed together?

Kam always talks about not playing scared, yet won't volunteer to go into elimination to try to get a star.

Brandon a **** hypocrite. When Cara called him out on his vote he was like, "We haven't talked in 8 years." Then in confessionals he was all, "I would like to save our friendship." Trifling *** GTFO!

Jasmine was doing the most for no reason. Cara was helping you in the game, and then you got defensive like you did something when you were just Kam's puppet. Now you have a target and Kam doesn't ****!

Kam is so F*C*ING STUPID! "What Cara should have done is give her star to another strong player, but she's not strategic." You all literally just sent Cara in against Rachel because they were 2 strong players with stars. How tf would it have been strategic for Cara to set herself up for that again? Kam is the WORST this season.

  • Kam is a hypocritical troll.  I can't think of anyone worse than her.
  • This elimination should have been saved for a heavy hitter vs a layup.  Imagine Jasmine beating Laurel in this!!
  • Jasmine is playing....Please put her on Survivor, BB or House Of Villians
  • Ryan looks 60 years old.  I don't know how he continues to get cast.
  • Tina voting for Rachel was smart.  She had zero control.  Why make another enemy.
  • Brandon voting in his #1 was dumb, but at least he is playing the game.
  • Remember when she did the absolute most in a very stupid way just to throw in the couple everyone was OK voting in during Final Reckoning? Y'all aplauded that, threated her lika a mastermind and created a monster. Is y'alls fault.

    Remember when she did the absolute most in a very stupid way just to throw in the couple everyone was OK voting in during Final Reckoning? Y'all aplauded that, threated her lika a mastermind and created a monster. Is y'alls fault.

    That is when I started to hate her lol

    I actually dont think that was applauded here on Vevmo, I remember lots of people calling it out as a waste. All that build up to do the same old same old

    Wrong thread

    Remember when she did the absolute most in a very stupid way just to throw in the couple everyone was OK voting in during Final Reckoning? Y'all aplauded that, threated her lika a mastermind and created a monster. Is y'alls fault.

    That was widely critiqued. It was given props for forcing the house to play into her hand not who she sent with it.

  • Brandon voting in his #1 was dumb, but at least he is playing the game.
  • I didn't understand Brandon's vote at all. I get that he's worried about her in a final, but that's way off at this point. Brandon has to get to the final first, and Cara is someone who would not vote him into elimination and who would have potentially given him a star if she won an additional one. Why would he take such a big risk to vote for her this early in the game? To me that's a move you make in 4-5 eliminations from now.

    Because hes weak and let Kam influence him instead of doing his own thinking

    Wow, everyone is turning on Kam?

    Wow, everyone is turning on Kam?

    I was never pro-Kam, more so neutral. So, not sure if that is turning on her, but I dislike her more after this season than I did before. It's so annoying how she seems to think people are only playing smart and fearless if they do exactly what she says.

    Jasmine tweeting about how she doesn't cry about things; um I am **** sure I've seen Jasmine on this show crying about things related to Jonna. I just cannot stand how hypocritical these people are.

    If I turn on Kam it wouldn't be over Cara Maria.  

    Y'all will live.

     

    This is maybe the second worst elimination of all time tbh. 

    Great episode and I liked the elimination! Cara ATE this episode!

    I would never turn on Kam, but this season hasn't been a good look for her. It's okay, everyone has a bad look in their challenge career and she is finally having hers. Her power is undeniable though lbr.

    The issue isn't that Kam called Cara entitled because she absolutely is, it's that it was hypocritical -- they're both entitled and for the very same reasons.

    Kam felt entitled to Cara's support in the last vote because they're friends, but Cara is allowed to play her own game and take her own safety into consideration. Cara felt entitled to Brandon and Jasmine not voting for her and Kam not pushing for that because they're friends, but all 3 of them are allowed to play their own game and try to get strong competitors out. 

    Both are justified in some ways but not completely -- just gotta give the edge to Cara in this case. Even Leroy admits something like "they're both kind of right" in the leaked ep 5. Kam and Cara just needed to have talked to each other more before and after each vote, communication is key. 

    Also the elim was stupid but mostly because those particular stars are shit.

    Like Laurel likened them to darts but that is absolutely wrong. There are a ton of axe throwing places in north GA that also have other sharp objects to throw like knives and stars that I've been to, and the technique to throw and aim with each one is way different because of the weight is distributed. Darts are well-balcned -- typically stars are too but those has handles so kind of a mix with an axe which has a different way to hold/throw. Honestly, some of Rachel and Cara issues was probably them holding and aiming like they were darts.

    Only worst elims in recent history is the soccor ball on fire on between Cory/Nelson and the duct taped to a chair one between Nany/Georgia. 

    I'm firmly on the Kam camp, now whether I agree with how she's moving and playing is another story. But I love watching Kam play, she plays hard and I love that.  

    Now Miss Jasmine ate that episode. She's delivering confessionals and has been relevant to game events. Love to see it! What has lil Miss Averey done other than cry that she was being bullied?! I peep, y'all so quick to ride for the whites over doing the literal under bare minimum and these are FACTS.

    I thought I'd enjoy Cara Maria on a return but she has the same aura she had on WOTW2, it's subtle but it's there. Her entitled attitude is lame. Good on her for handling all that pressure tho, let's see how the gears shift in her favor now.

    Grandma Flora needs more airtime, omg?! She is COMPETING her heart out. Love her so much. You can tell she has an amazing social game. Love to see it.

    Kefla & Steve <3 

    I'm so confused why Tina just didn't vote for Cara and Flora?  Flora probably won't go after Tina.

    Not that it matters, since I'm glad we get Flora for another episode.

    Also lol at Kefla's confessional about Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder in an elimination match.

    Wow, everyone is turning on Kam?

    Not me I hated her from the beginning. When she was patting herself on the back for that FR move where two rookie teams got voted into elimination I was like "that's what she's proud of?  Two rookies going in?"  You would've thought she got two legends there the way the fandom was praising her. She's all talk. 

    I'm so confused why Tina just didn't vote for Cara and Flora?  Flora probably won't go after Tina.

    Not that it matters, since I'm glad we get Flora for another episode.

    Based on her confessional she didn't want to **** off two other people who might come after her for voting for them. 

  • Wish we saw more of the daily challenge
  • Old Adam came back when he was just doing his own thing during the daily
  • Cara Maria being confident going into the nominations was a sign that she was going in... gotta love editing
  • Penguins!
  • I think Veronica and I have the same toothbrush
  • I think they're trying to portray Kam as a political mastermind but she's coming off as entitled and it's upsetting
  • Brandon is still boring. Seems like a nice enough guy irl but he's just so boring on these shows
  • I'm liking Jay more and more with this season
  • Ace is literally just coasting through this show. He's always just chilling somewhere and sounds like he's been napping the entire time. Honestly, goals
  • I keep forgetting Flora is on the show and I don't like that. Wish she had a more screen time
  • Tina knowing her vote wouldn't matter was actually a smart way to go into the nomination
  • I also like Jasmine on this season, too. She's not always on my good list, but.I'm enjoying her so far
  • Kam saying "Cara is so entitled" is such a pot/kettle
  • Cara Maria used to be one of my favorites, but this ended probably after Rivals I or II. I've always liked Rachel, though
  • I don't like Kam
  • Honestly, this matchup deserved a better elimination. It was better than what I was picturing in my head with the "darts game" rumors, but still terrible
  • "It looks like Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles are competing against each other right now." Love Kefla!
  • Such a dumb way to have Rachel leave the show, but she left with grace, and I think she got a good overall edit
  • I was waiting to see where the term "starget" would come into play since it was the name of the episode, and I did not expect it to be a reference to Jasmine...
  • NEXT ON: Cara Maira vs. Kam drama, and Laurel and Nicole drama... hopefully the episode is better than what that preview just showed, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  • Wow, everyone is turning on Kam?

    I didn't really have an opinion of her before AS4. Never seen a proper season with her, only the Champs vs. Stars season she was on for a brief moment. I'm sure  it has something to do with her being from AYTO and I'm a Challenge "purist" (for lack of better words) when it comes to casting, but the more I see of her the more I don't like her.

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6HCaRxoDZG/?igsh=ZW1mdXFzZWxhNGRx 

    idk what jasmine is complaining about, tina and averey titties in her mouth?! She was eating GOOD

    It should've been ME!

    I'm proud of Averey and Jasmine

    This is maybe the second worst elimination of all time tbh. 

    Like someone said earlier, this elimination would. have been more exciting had it been a heavy hitter vs a lay up.  They def shouldn't have wasted it on Rachel and Cara Maria

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