It just sucks because they have so many OGs wanting to do it. They can easily put together a cast for the OG fans and one the casuals would tune it too. It's so unnecessary bringing people that 99% of the fanbase doesn't want.
It honestly seems like they intentionally go against what the fans want to prove that it's "their" show and that's sad
No one is paying for the same thing they get on the flagship. It's also too much, people will get fatigued of the same product back to back. They will lose viewers all the way around.
I feel like they don't believe OGs can carry this show hence why we've seen Kam, Kailah, Cara, Laurel, Tony and others on these. I barely remember AS1 but wasn't that actually OGs? I only remember Jisela vs Aneesa and tuned out lol
I feel like they don't believe OGs can carry this show hence why we've seen Kam, Kailah, Cara, Laurel, Tony and others on these. I barely remember AS1 but wasn't that actually OGs? I only remember Jisela vs Aneesa and tuned out lol
These people are fine imo. I was even ok with AYTO because I knew it would happen eventually. I was expecting Tori and Devin to show up and some point (not this soon) but the line has to be drawn at CBS and internationals. They haven't put in the work to be called an "all star" on top of the fact that they aren't received well by fans. There's literally no logic behind it. Anybody from AYTO up until Dirty 30 was good imo and even that was pushing it but I could have understood.
I don't think production thinks that they'll have enough OGs... but they ******* will????? To me, I'm fine with anyone who debuted before the 2010s, with lots of exceptions from the 20-26 era. Bloodlines has a way different vibe than Exes 2, so they should draw the line between Exes 2 and Bloodlines with very few exceptions (I was happy with Tony being on this, for example). So, that's 18-26 seasons to pull from. Don't tell me that they don't have enough people to pull from from those seasons, because that's bullshit!
...the only line they should NEVER cross under ANY circumstance is casting someone that isn't RW/RR/FM/Bloodlines... which they did. Ugh.
Maybe there is concern from production on not having mainstays on there or lots of people declined. Wasn't this show almost cancelled? It's possible someone pushed for more of the newer people after a bunch of big names declined and they didn't want a full cast led by Ryan, Derek, Averey and Derrick K lol Idk just find it bizarre if we end up with a bunch of the 39 cast on here for no reason like who in production is screaming for Colleen lol
Maybe there is concern from production on not having mainstays on there or lots of people declined. Wasn't this show almost cancelled? It's possible someone pushed for more of the newer people after a bunch of big names declined and they didn't want a full cast led by Ryan, Derek, Averey and Derrick K lol Idk just find it bizarre if we end up with a bunch of the 39 cast on here for no reason like who in production is screaming for Colleen lol
It was almost cancelled because it's on one of the worst streaming platforms of all-time and received little promotion. You think throwing Colleen, Emanuel, Nam and the same people from season 40 is going to go over well? No one is paying for that. You don't pay for what you can get free on MTV. People like us are the ones who will pay to watch OGs. It's literally the ONLY reason I HAD Paraflop.
Maybe there is concern from production on not having mainstays on there or lots of people declined. Wasn't this show almost cancelled? It's possible someone pushed for more of the newer people after a bunch of big names declined and they didn't want a full cast led by Ryan, Derek, Averey and Derrick K lol Idk just find it bizarre if we end up with a bunch of the 39 cast on here for no reason like who in production is screaming for Colleen lol
I'd rather it be cancelled than have the rumors about All Stars 5 be true. Doing a shortened clone of the main show and naming it after the last good Challenge franchise is insulting and a slap in the face.
I'd rather it be cancelled than have the rumors about All Stars 5 be true. Doing a shortened clone of the main show and naming it after the last good Challenge franchise is insulting and a slap in the face.
It was almost cancelled because it's on one of the worst streaming platforms of all-time and received little promotion. You think throwing Colleen, Emanuel, Nam and the same people from season 40 is going to go over well? No one is paying for that. You don't pay for what you can get free on MTV. People like us are the ones who will pay to watch OGs. It's literally the ONLY reason I HAD Paraflop.
idk why people are acting like these people will bring in viewers. The ratings werent even good for season 39, and you think the most disliked people from that season will cause people to subscribe to paramount? Be serious lmao
like I said and will continue to say. There is NOBODY they can cast on *** that will bring in more subscribers except for a Coral or Landon, and thats not happening.
Can we all agree when we cancel our paramount after 4 finishes to put the reasoning as the casting for all stars 5 and production ignoring what the fans wants?
Can we all agree when we cancel our paramount after 4 finishes to put the reasoning as the casting for all stars 5 and production ignoring what the fans wants?
I've already canceled. Now just using different emails for a free trial for the next 8 weeks or so!
Can we all agree when we cancel our paramount after 4 finishes to put the reasoning as the casting for all stars 5 and production ignoring what the fans wants?
I've already canceled. Now just using different emails for a free trial for the next 8 weeks or so!
dont they remember which CC you use? I know one of the streamers do, I just dont know which one.
i was using my sisters, and she made an ageist comment about the cast so we got into a huge fight and she cancelled her subscription like a ***** lol. This week was my first so its free, but if youve been getting away with the free trials, lmk so I can follow suit!
They are too dumb to figure out if you use the same card. This is the season stresming service that let me register with a visa gift card that had enough $ for 1 month but then somehow I managed to have my account for all of AS1 and AS2 before they realized.
I think the point for many is that All Stars was created to benefit OGs who were no longer really on the flagship show for various reasons (aged out, filming is too long, etc). If All Stars gets filled with people who are also on the main Challenge shows, then it means the OGs will be getting pushed out again (as we've already seen). I certainly understand that concern.
And I'd prefer that too -- more OGs than anything else and only RW/RR/FM.
Just can kind of understand making an exception for players who have been onn for 7-8 years at this point, but it's impossible to see anything beyond them. There has to be at least a little bit of history with the show -- at the very very least.
For anyone who was still unsure who Jasmine meant about Ayanna having a sidekick that was obvious, and Jemmye confirmed on her podcast that it was Tina, which I think most of us assume but now we know for sure who Jasmine was talking about..
There's literally ZERO authenticity in reality TV anymore. Every reality show on every network seems like your watching actors. Nobody has any real personality. They are all playing a character and worried about what social media thinks of them. All Stars was the only reality show where we got people with real personalities. People from the golden age that made the world fall in love with reality tv. We'll never get that on TV again because of the way society is. People don't even have social skills to have likable personalities anymore. They literally had the best product they've put out in almost a decade and decided to ruin in because they can't put their egos to the side. Listen to your fans! Smh
Couldn't have said it better myself. You spewed straight up FACTS
It just sucks because they have so many OGs wanting to do it. They can easily put together a cast for the OG fans and one the casuals would tune it too. It's so unnecessary bringing people that 99% of the fanbase doesn't want.
It honestly seems like they intentionally go against what the fans want to prove that it's "their" show and that's sad
Are you here necklace? *points to head*. You taking all the words out of my mind. That's exactly how I feel production is thinking, "It's our show, we don't care what the fans think, you're going to get Logan and Colleen on All Stars whether you like it or not".
They are too dumb to figure out if you use the same card. This is the season stresming service that let me register with a visa gift card that had enough $ for 1 month but then somehow I managed to have my account for all of AS1 and AS2 before they realized.
Yea I paid for P+ before all Stars 3 and it still works. I never renewed my subscription & wi th the season 5 cast I wont.
Someone mentioned it but I'm curious where Veronica stood in this whole Ayanna situation. There were so many scenes with Rachel, Tina, and Ayanna but Veronica was never apart of that. Considering their history, her perspective would have been interesting. They cut have cut a couple of Kam's 400 confessionals to hear from Veronica.
Someone mentioned it but I'm curious where Veronica stood in this whole Ayanna situation. There were so many scenes with Rachel, Tina, and Ayanna but Veronica was never apart of that. Considering their history, her perspective would have been interesting. They cut have cut a couple of Kam's 400 confessionals to hear from Veronica.
Seeing no interaction with the two of them besides Queen V laughing when Leroy was trying to get her to shut up was a shame.
It honestly seems like they intentionally go against what the fans want to prove that it's "their" show and that's sad
No one is paying for the same thing they get on the flagship. It's also too much, people will get fatigued of the same product back to back. They will lose viewers all the way around.
I feel like they don't believe OGs can carry this show hence why we've seen Kam, Kailah, Cara, Laurel, Tony and others on these. I barely remember AS1 but wasn't that actually OGs? I only remember Jisela vs Aneesa and tuned out lol
These people are fine imo. I was even ok with AYTO because I knew it would happen eventually. I was expecting Tori and Devin to show up and some point (not this soon) but the line has to be drawn at CBS and internationals. They haven't put in the work to be called an "all star" on top of the fact that they aren't received well by fans. There's literally no logic behind it. Anybody from AYTO up until Dirty 30 was good imo and even that was pushing it but I could have understood.
its a slap in the face honestly
I don't think production thinks that they'll have enough OGs... but they ******* will????? To me, I'm fine with anyone who debuted before the 2010s, with lots of exceptions from the 20-26 era. Bloodlines has a way different vibe than Exes 2, so they should draw the line between Exes 2 and Bloodlines with very few exceptions (I was happy with Tony being on this, for example). So, that's 18-26 seasons to pull from. Don't tell me that they don't have enough people to pull from from those seasons, because that's bullshit!
...the only line they should NEVER cross under ANY circumstance is casting someone that isn't RW/RR/FM/Bloodlines... which they did. Ugh.
They really hate us!
Maybe there is concern from production on not having mainstays on there or lots of people declined. Wasn't this show almost cancelled? It's possible someone pushed for more of the newer people after a bunch of big names declined and they didn't want a full cast led by Ryan, Derek, Averey and Derrick K lol Idk just find it bizarre if we end up with a bunch of the 39 cast on here for no reason like who in production is screaming for Colleen lol
It was almost cancelled because it's on one of the worst streaming platforms of all-time and received little promotion. You think throwing Colleen, Emanuel, Nam and the same people from season 40 is going to go over well? No one is paying for that. You don't pay for what you can get free on MTV. People like us are the ones who will pay to watch OGs. It's literally the ONLY reason I HAD Paraflop.
I'd rather it be cancelled than have the rumors about All Stars 5 be true. Doing a shortened clone of the main show and naming it after the last good Challenge franchise is insulting and a slap in the face.
I agree 100%. Just cancel it.
We shall see I'm sure they'll throw in some "true" OGs to keep people on here hooked and tuned in lol
idk why people are acting like these people will bring in viewers. The ratings werent even good for season 39, and you think the most disliked people from that season will cause people to subscribe to paramount? Be serious lmao
like I said and will continue to say. There is NOBODY they can cast on *** that will bring in more subscribers except for a Coral or Landon, and thats not happening.
They can try and entrap me with Irulan or someone but I will be watching it for free. Kkkloud Topic will not be getting my money.
Can we all agree when we cancel our paramount after 4 finishes to put the reasoning as the casting for all stars 5 and production ignoring what the fans wants?
I've already canceled. Now just using different emails for a free trial for the next 8 weeks or so!
dont they remember which CC you use? I know one of the streamers do, I just dont know which one.
i was using my sisters, and she made an ageist comment about the cast so we got into a huge fight and she cancelled her subscription like a ***** lol. This week was my first so its free, but if youve been getting away with the free trials, lmk so I can follow suit!
They are too dumb to figure out if you use the same card. This is the season stresming service that let me register with a visa gift card that had enough $ for 1 month but then somehow I managed to have my account for all of AS1 and AS2 before they realized.
so lucky you got away with it. It never worked for me, paraflop got my money for AS 1&2 thanks for putting me on <333
they wont be getting anymore of my money!
And I'd prefer that too -- more OGs than anything else and only RW/RR/FM.
Just can kind of understand making an exception for players who have been onn for 7-8 years at this point, but it's impossible to see anything beyond them. There has to be at least a little bit of history with the show -- at the very very least.
Idris Virgo for all stars 5!
For anyone who was still unsure who Jasmine meant about Ayanna having a sidekick that was obvious, and Jemmye confirmed on her podcast that it was Tina, which I think most of us assume but now we know for sure who Jasmine was talking about..
Couldn't have said it better myself. You spewed straight up FACTS
Are you here necklace? *points to head*. You taking all the words out of my mind. That's exactly how I feel production is thinking, "It's our show, we don't care what the fans think, you're going to get Logan and Colleen on All Stars whether you like it or not".
Yea I paid for P+ before all Stars 3 and it still works. I never renewed my subscription & wi th the season 5 cast I wont.
I'm liking Jay
So am I. He's fine AF
Someone mentioned it but I'm curious where Veronica stood in this whole Ayanna situation. There were so many scenes with Rachel, Tina, and Ayanna but Veronica was never apart of that. Considering their history, her perspective would have been interesting. They cut have cut a couple of Kam's 400 confessionals to hear from Veronica.
Seeing no interaction with the two of them besides Queen V laughing when Leroy was trying to get her to shut up was a shame.
Well clearly production doesn't have knowledge or respect for the OG days so I'm not surprised they dropped that ball.
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