So I heard brandon and jemmye talked about what really happened with ayanna...
I tried listening but they both annoy me so I didnt get to that part. Maybe I will try again later. The part I did listen to what brandon giving his impression of tina. He said and I quote "I cannot stand that *****." And then later "you're married, thats how you talk?!" And "she'd be really attractive if she didn't talk."
i know tina is loud and probably grating to be around 24/7 especially if youre boring as ***, but *** THAT MAN. Cant handle a strong woman who has more personality in her pinky than he does his whole body. SD energy
Oh no. I don't like him no mo'. I'm dumping his äśs.
I just think Kam felt a way because in her mind Cara was prob her #1 girl with their history and with others having her back and her not she felt a way. I don't think she should be upset at Cara it is a game but if they weren't so close she wouldn't have felt that way.
Yep, I think this is exactly it. Kam was hurt because someone she considered a closer friend didn't have her back. Kam is still in the wrong, don't get me wrong, but I think it's less about entitlement and more about friendship. These are humans playing the game and she's allowed to overract emotionally.
Yeah I think it boiled it down to principle too and them being in game-mode makes it easier for Kam to not trust her. But they seem to have squashed it so I don't think Kam is holding personal resentment about it.
I think y'all's level of mad is more than her level of mad at Cara.
Yeah I think it boiled it down to principle too and them being in game-mode makes it easier for Kam to not trust her. But they seem to have squashed it so I don't think Kam is holding personal resentment about it.
I think y'all's level of mad is more than her level of mad at Cara.
They did squash it, but only after the show was over. In game, Kam and Cara will still have big emotions about each other for at least a bit.
I understand Kam wanted to ensure ayanna would be out by putting Rachel in, but it is silly to completely throw away her ties with Cara because Cara didnt vote exactly the way Kam wanted when the vote was already settled. Cara needs to look after her own star, theres nobody there to watch her back but herself. At least Leroy & Kam always have each other (plus people like Brandon).
It honestly made no sense to be mad. It made no difference. Kam just wanted her to pile on because she had an unfound vendetta against Ayanna, even though it would mean hurting Cara's game. Why would she not want to guarantee her "good" friend could protect her star? Plus if Cara keeps her star she could steal one for Kam, if they are so close. Kam wanted Cara to put Kam before her own game because she is an entitled brat just like Diem, Kina, and Tori H. Entitled brats make great tv.
I just think Kam felt a way because in her mind Cara was prob her #1 girl with their history and with others having her back and her not she felt a way. I don't think she should be upset at Cara it is a game but if they weren't so close she wouldn't have felt that way.
Yep, I think this is exactly it. Kam was hurt because someone she considered a closer friend didn't have her back. Kam is still in the wrong, don't get me wrong, but I think it's less about entitlement and more about friendship. These are humans playing the game and she's allowed to overract emotionally.
Yeah I think it boiled it down to principle too and them being in game-mode makes it easier for Kam to not trust her. But they seem to have squashed it so I don't think Kam is holding personal resentment about it.
I think y'all's level of mad is more than her level of mad at Cara.
I get that to a degree, but that's such a one-sided, selfish view from Kam because it means she wasn't caring at all if Cara lost her star. As it is, Cara kept her star AND Rachel got Ayanna out. So, Kam wanting Cara to vote Rachel just because she wanted her to was purely selfish on Kam's part.
I want Kam to go on a podcast and explain why she is so entitled and thinks everyone must bow down to her wants.
I mean she is mother duh lol. Jokes aside, I wouldn't say that since she's not mad at those who also didn't vote for Rachel. She felt like since her and Cara are #1s and are friends she would like for her to show support and have her back even when the votes were there for Rachel to go in. Seeing people who she barely knew showed their support but not Cara who she considered close made her feel some type of way. Basically a principle thing. Some people may not get it and are built different but it's whatever. She's open to read from subscribers to know if she overreacted or not.
But shouldn't Kam also have Cara's back and not want her to lose her star?
It honestly made no sense to be mad. It made no difference. Kam just wanted her to pile on because she had an unfound vendetta against Ayanna, even though it would mean hurting Cara's game. Why would she not want to guarantee her "good" friend could protect her star? Plus if Cara keeps her star she could steal one for Kam, if they are so close. Kam wanted Cara to put Kam before her own game because she is an entitled brat just like Diem, Kina, and Tori H. Entitled brats make great tv.
Is Kam really is friends with Cara Maria then there is no reason for her to be mad - especially if Cara Maria was the final vote who's vote didn't matter.
Is Kam really is friends with Cara Maria then there is no reason for her to be mad - especially if Cara Maria was the final vote who's vote didn't matter.
Not a fan of Brandon after hearing all of that.
Yea Brandon is kind of getting on my nerves so far this season. His Cutthroat treatment is being validated.
-Mentions salad incident on All Stars 2 with Jodi. Cast orders food/carry out and Jodi looks for her salad about an hour after the delivery. Ayanna is cleaning up and while Jodi is looking for salad, asks Jodi if she is too privileged to help clean up.
-All Stars 5 mentions a female cast member and Ayanna having a convo about what the next daily challenge will be. Female 1 says one scenario and Ayanna says another scenario. Female 1 disagrees and Ayanna says lets bet $100 on who is right. Female 1 declines. Come challenge day Ayanna is wrong about the challenge and approaches Female 1 and says "well guess I owe you $100" (even though Female 1 clearly declined the night before). Ayanna then approaches the house and says "guess who wants to take $100 from a single mother of 4."
-I really can't with the defamation of character tactics and how Ayanna plays the game. They edit her in an entertaining light but you really are seeing her games from behind the curtain. I really applaud Janelle for how she is trying to protect herself and is using her words wisely amidst Ayanna's personal situation.
-Janelle says she left All Stars 5 because Ayanna said she was gaslighting the entire cast. Their All Stars 2 altercation was brought up = Janelle tries to give her another chance this season and they end up having a conversation. Male 1 walks in says "you two strong black women should not be arguing." Ayanna looks at Janelle with a "she's not one of us" demeanor. Ayanna then spins it, goes to the house and cries in defense mode.
-Says Ayanna and her had a conversation about Janelle's kids and being mixed (Janelle = black/white Husband = white/japanese). Says after that convo Ayanna still made it clear that she didn't know Janelle was black. Proceeds to tell house "if you think I'm racist well Janelle is definitely a racist."
Ayanna can just **** off. Deliberately ruining cast nembers' experience with her bullshit lies. How did the wacko even pass the psych eval? Hoping she never returns.
AyannaGoddess! Imagine if she would've forced Kam off of the show? From the looks of it she was close. Miserable, pumping with Ayanna harassing her. Had she gotten her to leave too with these tactics I would have worshipped Ayanna forever. I would've never shut up about her greatness "Is this what Killa Kam does?" Kam was gagged with that dumb look on her face. Don't think anyone has ever left Kam speechless on these shows.
Oh no. I don't like him no mo'. I'm dumping his äśs.
Yeah I think it boiled it down to principle too and them being in game-mode makes it easier for Kam to not trust her. But they seem to have squashed it so I don't think Kam is holding personal resentment about it.
I think y'all's level of mad is more than her level of mad at Cara.
They did squash it, but only after the show was over. In game, Kam and Cara will still have big emotions about each other for at least a bit.
IMO Kam was in her right to be mad, I think y'all just looking for excuses to hate on the Queen but okay...
On what grounds did she have to be mad?
I understand Kam wanted to ensure ayanna would be out by putting Rachel in, but it is silly to completely throw away her ties with Cara because Cara didnt vote exactly the way Kam wanted when the vote was already settled. Cara needs to look after her own star, theres nobody there to watch her back but herself. At least Leroy & Kam always have each other (plus people like Brandon).
It honestly made no sense to be mad. It made no difference. Kam just wanted her to pile on because she had an unfound vendetta against Ayanna, even though it would mean hurting Cara's game. Why would she not want to guarantee her "good" friend could protect her star? Plus if Cara keeps her star she could steal one for Kam, if they are so close. Kam wanted Cara to put Kam before her own game because she is an entitled brat just like Diem, Kina, and Tori H. Entitled brats make great tv.
I get that to a degree, but that's such a one-sided, selfish view from Kam because it means she wasn't caring at all if Cara lost her star. As it is, Cara kept her star AND Rachel got Ayanna out. So, Kam wanting Cara to vote Rachel just because she wanted her to was purely selfish on Kam's part.
Do you also think Cara would have a right to be mad at Kam since it means Kam wanted Cara to lose her star over an irrelevant vote?
But shouldn't Kam also have Cara's back and not want her to lose her star?
Because someone dared bring up her and Leroy's name! She's pumping and has a child to raise back at home for christs sake!
Is Kam really is friends with Cara Maria then there is no reason for her to be mad - especially if Cara Maria was the final vote who's vote didn't matter.
Not a fan of Brandon after hearing all of that.
Yea Brandon is kind of getting on my nerves so far this season. His Cutthroat treatment is being validated.
Brandon Swift should've taken his spot on the cast..
I get Ayanna being entertaining on screen but Janelle really shined another light on her on Zach's podcast.
the way she does business is nasty.
Janelle:
-Mentions salad incident on All Stars 2 with Jodi. Cast orders food/carry out and Jodi looks for her salad about an hour after the delivery. Ayanna is cleaning up and while Jodi is looking for salad, asks Jodi if she is too privileged to help clean up.
-All Stars 5 mentions a female cast member and Ayanna having a convo about what the next daily challenge will be. Female 1 says one scenario and Ayanna says another scenario. Female 1 disagrees and Ayanna says lets bet $100 on who is right. Female 1 declines. Come challenge day Ayanna is wrong about the challenge and approaches Female 1 and says "well guess I owe you $100" (even though Female 1 clearly declined the night before). Ayanna then approaches the house and says "guess who wants to take $100 from a single mother of 4."
-I really can't with the defamation of character tactics and how Ayanna plays the game. They edit her in an entertaining light but you really are seeing her games from behind the curtain. I really applaud Janelle for how she is trying to protect herself and is using her words wisely amidst Ayanna's personal situation.
-Janelle says she left All Stars 5 because Ayanna said she was gaslighting the entire cast. Their All Stars 2 altercation was brought up = Janelle tries to give her another chance this season and they end up having a conversation. Male 1 walks in says "you two strong black women should not be arguing." Ayanna looks at Janelle with a "she's not one of us" demeanor. Ayanna then spins it, goes to the house and cries in defense mode.
-Says Ayanna and her had a conversation about Janelle's kids and being mixed (Janelle = black/white Husband = white/japanese). Says after that convo Ayanna still made it clear that she didn't know Janelle was black. Proceeds to tell house "if you think I'm racist well Janelle is definitely a racist."
I'm listening to the official Challenge podcast right now and Aneesa is a good host. Tori on the other hand...
Ayanna can just **** off. Deliberately ruining cast nembers' experience with her bullshit lies. How did the wacko even pass the psych eval? Hoping she never returns.
Queen Ayanna!
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Do you think they'd allow the "Where's Shane" shirt?
LOL the Cloud would have a conniption if they even tried. God forbid she be reminded of someone who didnt bow down to her
AyannaGoddess! Imagine if she would've forced Kam off of the show? From the looks of it she was close. Miserable, pumping with Ayanna harassing her. Had she gotten her to leave too with these tactics I would have worshipped Ayanna forever. I would've never shut up about her greatness "Is this what Killa Kam does?" Kam was gagged with that dumb look on her face. Don't think anyone has ever left Kam speechless on these shows.
Challenge merch sucks but if they ever brought this back out for a limited release I might grab one or two.
same. I made my own where's Rachel shirt back in the day lol I would buy an official one
Will the season 40 non spoiler thread ever be open again?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6HCaRxoDZG/?igsh=ZW1mdXFzZWxhNGRx
idk what jasmine is complaining about, tina and averey titties in her mouth?! She was eating GOOD
Jasmine was cast for comedy. Hasn't she lost every elimination she's been in, except against Katelynn and Sarah?
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