The Challenge: Spies, Lies and Allies - Ratings

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I don't get the fascination of getting obscure shows (her words) like why they she thinks that's good? Tbh- All MTV shows are doing bad 

They need to pull from Are You Smarter Than A 5th Grader just like EOTB did!

Hopefully this is an eye opener than another paramount show isnt need it with the same cast, host and format it's burning out

Last season was doing close to a million and now this one is doing half that at 500k. You delusional people who were saying it was doing good last week can now shut the **** up.

I wouldn't be surprised if they go more the notable influencers route or maybe some actual celebs who are fans but aren't that famous anymore -- internationals are fine it's just the ones they are picking & the amount they're putting on the show + not to mention the accents are thick & not as pleasing to a casual who know nothing about these people.  

Next season needs a little something to appease every demo cause they surely need it. It's clear younger women are the most people watching so they need to capitalize off that. 

I'm just curious thwvreturning vets ppl are begging for. Y'all will get sick off them in 2 seasons max 

I'm just curious thwvreturning vets ppl are begging for. Y'all will get sick off them in 2 seasons max 

Nobody is saying we want to se them do more than 2-3 in a row. They need to rotate them and give them breaks there is no reason someone like Kyle to be in 7 seasons in a row.

This episode and bloodlines were the lowest episodes ever which clearly mean the audience don't care when half the cast is unknowns.

They need to cast at most 4 internationals and the others shoulda been American big brother or survivor players or other American shows.

This episode and bloodlines were the lowest episodes ever which clearly mean the audience don't care when half the cast is unknowns.

They need to cast at most 4 internationals and the others shoulda been American big brother or survivor players or other American shows.

Bloodlines premiere on December which is a weird month to premiere any show lmao

After those 2 episodes it did went up 

Everyone is fixated on the cast. It's the themes and editing. There can't be anyone above 14 who doesn't cringe when they say "agents" and "handler". Plus the family friendly **** is so off-putting. We want the drama and fights, not people being kicked off for raising their voice. They changed the identity of the show and the fanbase said "no thanks".

The challenge is also too long it needs to an hour not and hour and a half

The challenge is also too long it needs to an hour not and hour and a half

weren't y'all complaining when episodes were 1hr?

 

The challenge is also too long it needs to an hour not and hour and a half

weren't y'all complaining when episodes were 1hr?

Not when those commercial breaks are long as hell and basically add up to 30 minutes along with the pointless filler.

The challenge is also too long it needs to an hour not and hour and a half

weren't y'all complaining when episodes were 1hr?

Who?  In the golden era they were 30 minutes and perfect

 

The challenge is also too long it needs to an hour not and hour and a half

weren't y'all complaining when episodes were 1hr?

Who?  In the golden era they were 30 minutes and perfect

some ppl on here and Twitter fans

 

The challenge is also too long it needs to an hour not and hour and a half

weren't y'all complaining when episodes were 1hr?

That was when all the FR episodes were TBC and we had a redemption house. Also it was back when they didn't edit out the drama. The new edit/cast can't carry 90 minutes and the challenges and eliminations are painfully long.

Ehhhh I don't think every episode needs to be 90 minutes only have 90 minutes when the episode is actually good 

Like the next episode which is four deserves to be 90 minutes episode three definitely could've been cut to 60 minutes 

60 minutes is more than fine.   The can get the intro, mission, vote, elimination, wrap up with relevant drama into that without an issue instead of showing them working out and discussing the vote for 40 minutes.   The elimination nor missions need as much camera time as the get even IMO who watches this "as a sport"

we only complained abou the episode length when they were doing cliffhangers every week and not giving us full episodes... 

im so upset that all the good cast members were problematic. idc but time to get them back on. i need theo, jordan, rogan, joss, wes, bananas, and turbo back

i hope we get jed, ty and jamar/anthony as rookies

They need to keep casting rookies from the same shows/series. That's what made this successful and of course the rookies won't make moves on strangers they have no connection to. A bunch of randoms doesn't work for this.

Lowest episode in all of 37 seasons makes me chuckle

They need to keep casting rookies from the same shows/series. That's what made this successful and of course the rookies won't make moves on strangers they have no connection to. A bunch of randoms doesn't work for this.

I think they should only cast from 3 or different shows. 

Everyone is fixated on the cast. It's the themes and editing. There can't be anyone above 14 who doesn't cringe when they say "agents" and "handler". Plus the family friendly **** is so off-putting. We want the drama and fights, not people being kicked off for raising their voice. They changed the identity of the show and the fanbase said "no thanks".

That alone makes it deserving of being cancelled. Good thing I stopped watching a couple of seasons ago.

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