[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;309719][url]http://vevmo.com/f243/the-real-world-cancun-ratings-3331/[/url] Cancun actually had pretty good ratings compared to what RW has been getting, it just started slow. I'm hoping that this season can build momentum and do well, but MTV may have to put more energy into promoting. They had an all day marathon of Teen Mom leading up to this premiere, wouldn't it have been smarter to do a marathon of RW Vegas, arguably the most popular season in the last 4 years?[/QUOTE]
To MTV's credit they did have a Vegas marthon planned weeks before leading up to this premiere (I set my DVR) but at the last minute they changed it, for whatever reason, and decided to move the "marathon" to MTV2 and instead aired the last 3 episodes of San Diego while regular MTV did a Teen Mom marathon.
But I agree with what most of everyone is saying, in order for the show to succeed they need to promote it like they do their others show. But unfortunately they don't promote RW seasons and give it endless re-runs unless it's doing really well hence Las Vegas.
The first season I ever watched (regularly) was Brooklyn, and that was because about a week before it premiered there was a behind-the-scenes special about the Real World, and what goes on behind the cameras, and how the show has evolved and such, and I had heard of the show, but I never watched it, so when I saw that special I was like "hmm, maybe I'll give this show a chance".
I know they can't do something like that for every season, so I agree they should at least do a casting special so we know more about the cast and advertise more. Plus, what someone said earlier about calling it "Real World: Virgin Islands" sounds better than St. Thomas to me.
The trailer sucked too. They really couldn't have edited it to make it LOOK better?
It'll go up to 1.4 and maybe peak around 1.6-1.7 would be my guess. Not a statement on the cast, just the way MTV handles things. Low ratings means no reruns which means people who watch during the day aren't going to get hooked enough to come back during primetime when they have other distractions during the summer or are resting from what they do during the days. Compared to other seasons it is bad, but I really think that a 1.2 is okay for an MTV show that doesn't have "Jersey" in its name.
I just don't think this season's ratings are gonna get much better. I think the trailer couldn't of been any more of a snooze fest. Soooo many people checked out after the San Diego debacle last season, and its gonna take a miracle to get those casual fans back. I'm at the point where I feel like season 29 of the RW may have to be RWLV2 part 2, to get the franchise back on track. Folks absolutely adore Leroy, Mike, Nany, etc.
[QUOTE=JodyBreeze;309788]I just don't think this season's ratings are gonna get much better. I think the trailer couldn't of been any more of a snooze fest. Soooo many people checked out after the San Diego debacle last season, and its gonna take a miracle to get those casual fans back. [B] I'm at the point where I feel like season 29 of the RW may have to be RWLV2 part 2, to get the franchise back on track. Folks absolutely adore Leroy, Mike, Nany, etc[/B].[/QUOTE]
I liked that season but cannot say that I would want to watch them back together again any more than some of them would be willing to do it again, at least anytime soon IMHO.
When it was showing on TV, there were tons of people tweeting about it all saying that they were enjoying the show. The premiere certainly wasn't bad, just had terrible advertising. A marathon of LV2 I think would've helped a decent amount with the promotion rather than a Teen Mom marathon.
Those are some pretty terrible ratings. I didn't watch but I also didn't know exactly when it was starting. (I also missed the premier of The Great Escape this week and wasn't aware that Spider-Man releases on the 3rd. Shows how much I pay attention to these things.)
I'd speculate that people probably just didn't know it was on, but who knows. I suppose it's possible that people actually decided to stop watching after last season, but such behavior is peculiar to me. I don't classify seasons of TRW as 'good' or 'bad', they simply are what they are. A case study in what happens when you throw a bunch of (seemingly) randomly chosen young people together, with a healthy amount of intervention from the show-runners. If people are choosing not to watch after having watched many seasons in the past, it's more likely they're bored with the concept of the show than they refuse to watch because they hated Frank/Zach/Nate/whoever.
Sorry to say... but I laughed. They're coming off two **** seasons in RWSD and BOTE. So I'm not surprised. At least I recorded it.
[QUOTE=arilicious;309790]When it was showing on TV, there were tons of people tweeting about it all saying that they were enjoying the show. The premiere certainly wasn't bad, just had terrible advertising. [B]A marathon of LV2 I think would've helped a decent amount with the promotion rather than a Teen Mom marathon.[/B][/QUOTE]
MTV is more concerned with the Teen Mom final season as a opposed to Real World. Can't say I blame them.
[QUOTE=JodyBreeze;309788]I just don't think this season's ratings are gonna get much better. I think the trailer couldn't of been any more of a snooze fest. Soooo many people checked out after the San Diego debacle last season, and its gonna take a miracle to get those casual fans back. I'm at the point where I feel like season 29 of the RW may have to be RWLV2 part 2, to get the franchise back on track. Folks absolutely adore Leroy, Mike, Nany, etc.[/QUOTE]
They are coming back for a second season, from what I understand. Adam tweeted a few months ago that they were asked to come back, but I guess MTV had him take it down because it was deleted a few mins later (I saw it on Tumblr). He also said [url=http://fr.twitter.com/AdamRoyerMTV/status/186519006214242304]Twitter / AdamRoyerMTV: Can't wait to do another s[/url] so it seems real.
Hi, I am new to this forum, but I have been watching The Real World and the Real World/Road Rules challenges ever since the Chicago season aired and the Battle of the Sexes 1. It's such a shame to see The Real World doing so poorly already. I think both the Real World and the Challenges may be cancelled next year if this keeps on happening. That would suck because those are like the only good shows on MTV now.
I highly doubt MTV will cancel it at season 28. Now that Teen Mom is over (thank god), they are going to have to air something to fill that void.
And to be perfectly honest, if they bring back s***y shows like Awkward, then I'm positive that it'll get renewed until at least season 30 which will allow the newer batch of roommates to do at least one challenge.
I know and they just brought back Punk'd I noticed. I am pretty sure that show was cancelled for a few years. MTV always comes up with new shows though, so you never know. It just seems like people are getting tired of watching The Real World. I still think it might be cancelled next year or in 2014. The Challenges might be too, but I think that gets better ratings.
I think the show won't be canceled for a while even if it does have low ratings. It's the show that brought reality TV to life...it can't just stop because the ratings are low. I dunno, I just think TRW will stay for a while longer.
If the ratings don't get better I honestly don't see them renewing it. I think they've been wanting to get rid of RW for a while now. They hardly ever promote it, hardly give it re-runs, etc. They do nothing for RW compared to the endless promotion they do for their other shows.
But hopefully I'm wrong, MTV is fickle so it just depends I guess.
[QUOTE=KevinW;309820]If the ratings don't get better I honestly don't see them renewing it. I think they've been wanting to get rid of RW for a while now. They hardly ever promote it, hardly give it re-runs, etc. They do nothing for RW compared to the endless promotion they do for their other shows.
But hopefully I'm wrong, MTV is fickle so it just depends I guess.[/QUOTE]
Yes true, but maybe they don't think they need to do reruns anymore because people can watch it on mtv.com these days.
[QUOTE=blanky667;309642]A stunning performance!!!
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Wow, did Frank and the gang really scare them off that bad? This is sad indeed.
[QUOTE=Nostalgic;309831]Wow, did Frank and the gang really scare them off that bad? This is sad indeed.[/QUOTE]
The ratings are somewhat skewed. They are for the 18-49 demographic which is not in MTV's wheelhouse. Still, we are a couple of days after the premier and MTV crack PR team have not put out a release extolling their results in the 13+ demographic, so I suspect that was not a winner either.
This is getting to be pathetic. What's next? Moving the show to Friday nights? I really want to see what the 13+ is like but it doesn't exactly sound appeasing.
Another Vegas. Didn't think they would do it, if those rumors are true then it looks like they are at least considering it. When they did that a few years ago for the original Vegas cast, didn't it go over poorly? I'm not sure how another Vegas would be entertaining wise.
I am going to predict that despitte it being the 4th of July, ratings will go up slightly. Then by week three we will hit somewhere in the range of 1.0. Looking through my TV guide I see we are getting two St. Thomas reruns tonight. That's more than we got on some previous Real Worlds, they are trying to get it out there.
If they're gonna cancel the Real World, the show that gave them reality TV in the first place, they should at least get rid of other reality shows (the ****ty ones like Jersey Shore, Teen Mom) and the scripted ones like Awkward and Teen Wolf and BRING BACK MUSIC!
The only reality shows that deserve to stay are Real World, Challenges and True Life.
Cause if they cancel the Real World, then there's really no point as to why should show any reality tv, that's how I feel at least.
[QUOTE=V1man;309833]The ratings are somewhat skewed. They are for the 18-49 demographic which is not in MTV's wheelhouse. Still, we are a couple of days after the premier and MTV crack PR team have not put out a release extolling their results in the 13+ demographic, so I suspect that was not a winner either.[/QUOTE]
Still, overall viewership was only 1.2 million. Key demo or not, San Diego premiered with about 1.9 million, as did Exes have throughout the season. You'd think that at least SOME of that 700,000 would be in the key demo, hence how the ratings probably wouldn't be all that great either way.
[QUOTE=Calinks;309838]Another Vegas. Didn't think they would do it, if those rumors are true then it looks like they are at least considering it. When they did that a few years ago for the original Vegas cast, didn't it go over poorly? I'm not sure how another Vegas would be entertaining wise.
I am going to predict that despitte it being the 4th of July, ratings will go up slightly. Then by week three we will hit somewhere in the range of 1.0. Looking through my TV guide I see we are getting two St. Thomas reruns tonight. That's more than we got on some previous Real Worlds, they are trying to get it out there.[/QUOTE]
One might assume that the ability to predict ratings comes by way of some unique perspective on how viewers are reeled in to a TV show. Please share with us how the network is going to attract viewers. I've been around this business for decades and know from personal experience that if you have bad results in episode 1, then trying to recover from that bad rating in future episode is a nightmare of the nearly impossible. I don't have the history tables in front of me, but my memory is that network prime time shows on New Years Day nearly always take a major ratings hit. It's one of the reasons networks often avoid even showing repeats on major holidays. It's usually nothing but a sink hole for advertisers.
[QUOTE=arilicious;309839]If they're gonna cancel the Real World, the show that gave them reality TV in the first place, they should at least get rid of other reality shows (the ****ty ones like Jersey Shore, Teen Mom) and the scripted ones like Awkward and Teen Wolf and BRING BACK MUSIC!
The only reality shows that deserve to stay are Real World, Challenges and True Life.
Cause if they cancel the Real World, then there's really no point as to why should show any reality tv, that's how I feel at least.[/QUOTE]
You aren't in the business of ratings though, MTV is. Music Videos won't bring in the ratings anymore because you can see them whenever you want online.
[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;309844]You aren't in the business of ratings though, MTV is. Music Videos won't bring in the ratings anymore because you can see them whenever you want online.[/QUOTE]
I am aware of that, I was only stating my opinion. MTV could show music videos, artist interviews etc. during the day (not 3 AM, but reasonable times) and show their reality shows at night.
And even though I know this is most likely never gonna happen again, bring back Road Rules? When RR was on, RW had higher ratings, because people liked seeing RRers on challenges, and also liked to see the people they were competing against, RWers. None of these FM people that people know nothing about (and we don't need anymore Camilas, for sure.)
[QUOTE=arilicious;309847]I am aware of that, I was only stating my opinion. MTV could show music videos, artist interviews etc. during the day (not 3 AM, but reasonable times) and show their reality shows at night.
And even though I know this is most likely never gonna happen again, bring back Road Rules? When RR was on, RW had higher ratings, because people liked seeing RRers on challenges, and also liked to see the people they were competing against, RWers. None of these FM people that people know nothing about (and we don't need anymore Camilas, for sure.)[/QUOTE]
Do you know the Q Score of any of the FM people? For the RW cast, the RR cast? When you state an opinion, you open yourself up to criticism, absent any compelling argument offered to support your position. In this instance, the Q factor, rating or score would either have supported your position or better informed you that your opinion might not be supportable.
Maybe you don't want to see the FM crowd, but MTV's research obviously indicated your opinion is/was not representative of its broad audience demographic. While I don't care for some of them, there are others from the FM experience whom I enjoy watching, and a few for whom I root.
Well to be honest, the seasons with the better ratings had an elament of controversy they was revealed to the masses before the season aired; NOLA had the toothbrush situation and Las Vegas had Dustin's..well...it had Dustin. San Diego and St. Thomas didn't/don't have anything controversial that people whould be dying to see. Didn't DC have pretty bad ratings? If season 28 can be amazing then maybe it can make up for St.Thomas the way NOLA made up for DC.
[QUOTE=ThatsSoJordy;309861]Well to be honest, the seasons with the better ratings had an elament of controversy they was revealed to the masses before the season aired; NOLA had the toothbrush situation and Las Vegas had Dustin's..well...it had Dustin. San Diego and St. Thomas didn't/don't have anything controversial that people whould be dying to see.[/QUOTE]
This is true. I never even thought about that from that angle.
[QUOTE=ThatsSoJordy;309861]Well to be honest, the seasons with the better ratings had an elament of controversy they was revealed to the masses before the season aired; NOLA had the toothbrush situation and Las Vegas had Dustin's..well...it had Dustin. San Diego and St. Thomas didn't/don't have anything controversial that people whould be dying to see. Didn't DC have pretty bad ratings? If season 28 can be amazing then maybe it can make up for St.Thomas the way NOLA made up for DC.[/QUOTE]
If I remember correctly, I heard San Diego natives didn't like having the Real World filming there, and that apparently the cast was being disruptive to the locals. (Yes, I'm talking about the 2011 SD season)
[QUOTE=KevinW;309806]They are coming back for a second season, from what I understand. Adam tweeted a few months ago that they were asked to come back, but I guess MTV had him take it down because it was deleted a few mins later (I saw it on Tumblr). He also said [URL="http://fr.twitter.com/AdamRoyerMTV/status/186519006214242304"]Twitter / AdamRoyerMTV: Can't wait to do another s[/URL] so it seems real.[/QUOTE]
I believe all the Vegas cast did something like that for April's Fools Day
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