What if Wes doesn’t come back after winning The Duel? What happens to the show and what’s his legacy if he stops after two seasons in which he made both finals
I feel like we would look at him the same way we look at Landon as one of the Greatest of All Time. Carried a weak Casey on FM even though he was hated from Day 1 and won the Duel by socially playing everyone even though he was in the minority alliance and doing very well physically. He's had some shining moments his last few seasons but a few duds also.
Psy4potato wrote:What if Cara Maria and Marie would have pulled off an upset and won Final Reckoning? Would they have split the money? (not gonna lie, they were the team I was rooting for lol #teammarie)
Hasn't Cara said she wouldn't split the money before?
Think she said she would’ve done the same thing John did on Rivals 3
I don´t think so. She repeatedly said that reaching the final was a team effort (meaning neither Marie carried her nor she carried her). And more than one cast member has mentioned that they feel like the result of the final may have been influenced by the fact that production knew that Ashley/Hunter were the only team who was gonna steal.Besides, she mentioned her disapproval of John´s move and would probably not want to deal with the backlash.
Psy4potato wrote:What if Cara Maria and Marie would have pulled off an upset and won Final Reckoning? Would they have split the money? (not gonna lie, they were the team I was rooting for lol #teammarie)
Hasn't Cara said she wouldn't split the money before?
Think she said she would’ve done the same thing John did on Rivals 3
I don´t think so. She repeatedly said that reaching the final was a team effort (meaning neither Marie carried her nor she carried her). And more than one cast member has mentioned that they feel like the result of the final may have been influenced by the fact that production knew that Ashley/Hunter were the only team who was gonna steal.Besides, she mentioned her disapproval of John´s move and would probably not want to deal with the backlash.
I'm pretty sure she said in a confessional that she would 100% take Marie's money but okay lmao
What if Wes doesn’t come back after winning The Duel? What happens to the show and what’s his legacy if he stops after two seasons in which he made both finals
I feel like we would look at him the same way we look at Landon as one of the Greatest of All Time. Carried a weak Casey on FM even though he was hated from Day 1 and won the Duel by socially playing everyone even though he was in the minority alliance and doing very well physically. He's had some shining moments his last few seasons but a few duds also.
Personally, I think Wes would be remembered like Jodi especially since many believe Brad outperformed him on The Duel final.
deeper wrote:Wait what's the tea on Diem not caring on the Ruins? Did she throw it or just not want to be there?
she threw it cause she had work obigations. She went for the paycheck and then threw the elimination round
I feel like throwing eliminations like this is what curses you never to win tbh
Funny enough everyone knows Mark wants to return yet he hasnt been back since throwing the elimination on Exes same for Adam
When did Adam throw one? I was so mad at Mark when I heard that. I wanted Robin in that finale. Robin's story looked sadder as the years went on. She was in her prime during Battle of the Sexes 2.
What if Mark and Robin had made it to the finale of Exes 1 and knocked out Camilla and John? Any change in the outcome for the finale?
deeper wrote:Wait what's the tea on Diem not caring on the Ruins? Did she throw it or just not want to be there?
she threw it cause she had work obigations. She went for the paycheck and then threw the elimination round
I feel like throwing eliminations like this is what curses you never to win tbh
Funny enough everyone knows Mark wants to return yet he hasnt been back since throwing the elimination on Exes same for Adam
When did Adam throw one? I was so mad at Mark when I heard that. I wanted Robin in that finale. Robin's story looked sadder as the years went on. She was in her prime during Battle of the Sexes 2. What if Mark and Robin had made it to the finale of Exes 1 and knocked out Camilla and John? Any change in the outcome for the finale?
Yeah it's probably a safe bet that John and Camila don't win
deeper wrote:Wait what's the tea on Diem not caring on the Ruins? Did she throw it or just not want to be there?
she threw it cause she had work obigations. She went for the paycheck and then threw the elimination round
I feel like throwing eliminations like this is what curses you never to win tbh
Funny enough everyone knows Mark wants to return yet he hasnt been back since throwing the elimination on Exes same for Adam
When did Adam throw one? I was so mad at Mark when I heard that. I wanted Robin in that finale. Robin's story looked sadder as the years went on. She was in her prime during Battle of the Sexes 2. What if Mark and Robin had made it to the finale of Exes 1 and knocked out Camilla and John? Any change in the outcome for the finale?
Adam was pretty much throwing everything he could on the original "Rivals" because he was getting his orders from Evan, Kenny and Johnny, who all wanted no part of facing CT in an elimination round. If I'm remembering correctly, Adam even said on camera that he'd rather lose that Challenge himself than help CT win.
deeper wrote:Wait what's the tea on Diem not caring on the Ruins? Did she throw it or just not want to be there?
she threw it cause she had work obigations. She went for the paycheck and then threw the elimination round
I feel like throwing eliminations like this is what curses you never to win tbh
Funny enough everyone knows Mark wants to return yet he hasnt been back since throwing the elimination on Exes same for Adam
When did Adam throw one? I was so mad at Mark when I heard that. I wanted Robin in that finale. Robin's story looked sadder as the years went on. She was in her prime during Battle of the Sexes 2. What if Mark and Robin had made it to the finale of Exes 1 and knocked out Camilla and John? Any change in the outcome for the finale?
Yeah it's probably a safe bet that John and Camila don't win
Honestly, if you throw an elimination round when you have a partner or quit you should never return. I'm happy Mark, Adam & Dunbar haven't been back. I'm sure Mark & Adam made money when they threw the elimination.
deeper wrote:Wait what's the tea on Diem not caring on the Ruins? Did she throw it or just not want to be there?
she threw it cause she had work obigations. She went for the paycheck and then threw the elimination round
I feel like throwing eliminations like this is what curses you never to win tbh
Funny enough everyone knows Mark wants to return yet he hasnt been back since throwing the elimination on Exes same for Adam
When did Adam throw one? I was so mad at Mark when I heard that. I wanted Robin in that finale. Robin's story looked sadder as the years went on. She was in her prime during Battle of the Sexes 2. What if Mark and Robin had made it to the finale of Exes 1 and knocked out Camilla and John? Any change in the outcome for the finale?
Yeah it's probably a safe bet that John and Camila don't win
Honestly, if you throw an elimination round when you have a partner or quit you should never return. I'm happy Mark, Adam & Dunbar haven't been back. I'm sure Mark & Adam made money when they threw the elimination.
Add Evan to that list. I forgot that he threw the elimination against CT & Adam on Rivals.
Honestly, if you throw an elimination round when you have a partner or quit you should never return. I'm happy Mark, Adam & Dunbar haven't been back. I'm sure Mark & Adam made money when they threw the elimination.
Add Evan to that list. I forgot that he threw the elimination against CT & Adam on Rivals.
I don't think he threw the elimination. He threw the mission that sent them in but he allegedly threw the elimination? That's news to me and really stupid on his part.
kvm1977 wrote:Honestly, if you throw an elimination round when you have a partner or quit you should never return. I'm happy Mark, Adam & Dunbar haven't been back. I'm sure Mark & Adam made money when they threw the elimination.
Add Evan to that list. I forgot that he threw the elimination against CT & Adam on Rivals.
I don't think he threw the elimination. He threw the mission that sent them in but he allegedly threw the elimination? That's news to me and really stupid on his part.
I'm pretty sure he only went on Rivals to help out Kenny and was happy to throw himself into elimination. Best case scenario, he beats CT and looks amazing, worst case, he goes home when he didn't really want to be there anyways
kvm1977 wrote:Honestly, if you throw an elimination round when you have a partner or quit you should never return. I'm happy Mark, Adam & Dunbar haven't been back. I'm sure Mark & Adam made money when they threw the elimination.
Add Evan to that list. I forgot that he threw the elimination against CT & Adam on Rivals.
I don't think he threw the elimination. He threw the mission that sent them in but he allegedly threw the elimination? That's news to me and really stupid on his part.
I'm pretty sure he only went on Rivals to help out Kenny and was happy to throw himself into elimination. Best case scenario, he beats CT and looks amazing, worst case, he goes home when he didn't really want to be there anyways
Yeah, he threw the mission but not the elimination. Which was also stupid but they definitely wanted the final 3 to be Evan/Nehemiah, John/Tyler and Kenny/Wes. Now if he faced one of those two teams he may have thrown it but he really thought he could beat CT. Or maybe he just thought Adam would throw it.
What if...-Katie had been Sarah's partner on Rivals 1 - Do we think they could have out performed Jenn and Mandi and made the final?-Tina and Coral had been on Dirty 30 as originally planned. Who's places do you think they would've taken?-Cory hadn't slammed Tony and been DQd. Do you think they would've had a chance at making the final?-Trishelle hadn't quit on Rivals 2. Do you think her and Sarah could've out performed Jonna/Nany, Theresa/Jasmine, Camila/Jemmye and Aneesa/Diem and possibly taken 3rd place?-Frank hadn't gotten sick on Free Agents
I like most of the these...I wanna answer them lolKatie and Sarah would have been a lot more fun to watch...I think they would have got farther than Sarah and Katelynn. Jenn was tough...but I think Katie is stronger than Mandi so yes to that. Tina and Coral would have hopefully taken the place of Simone and Nicole. I'd prefer to say Britini or Amanda but I felt like Nicole was filler that season. I WISH Coral would have walked through that door with CT though. That Briana girl added nothing. I was happy Cory did that...cause I couldn't stand him or Devin but they would have made it farther but I doubt to the end. I think Trishelle and Sarah would have made it to the end of Rivals 2...Trishelle proved when she tries she was a great competitor on Seasons 2, maybe Aneesa and Diem would have beat them but I think Sarah and Trishelle would have made it to the final and we might have seen more Trishelle if would have gotten the medical attention she needed and didn't quit. As much as Frank bothered me back in the day I think he would have done decent on Free Agents. He would have been in the top 6 or 7 for sure then it was just a **** shoot at that point with the dudes.
Bananasisoverrated wrote:What if Wes doesn’t come back after winning The Duel? What happens to the show and what’s his legacy if he stops after two seasons in which he made both finals
I feel like we would look at him the same way we look at Landon as one of the Greatest of All Time. Carried a weak Casey on FM even though he was hated from Day 1 and won the Duel by socially playing everyone even though he was in the minority alliance and doing very well physically. He's had some shining moments his last few seasons but a few duds also.
Personally, I think Wes would be remembered like Jodi especially since many believe Brad outperformed him on The Duel final.
I'd say much better because Jodi never had to use a social game to get far, carry a weak partner and the only thing that comes to mind when you say Jodi and elimination is her freaking out and losing to Veronica. After Duel, Wes seemed untouchable in every aspect of the game.
Bananasisoverrated wrote:What if Wes doesn’t come back after winning The Duel? What happens to the show and what’s his legacy if he stops after two seasons in which he made both finals
I feel like we would look at him the same way we look at Landon as one of the Greatest of All Time. Carried a weak Casey on FM even though he was hated from Day 1 and won the Duel by socially playing everyone even though he was in the minority alliance and doing very well physically. He's had some shining moments his last few seasons but a few duds also.
Personally, I think Wes would be remembered like Jodi especially since many believe Brad outperformed him on The Duel final.
I'd say much better because Jodi never had to use a social game to get far, carry a weak partner and the only thing that comes to mind when you say Jodi and elimination is her freaking out and losing to Veronica. After Duel, Wes seemed untouchable in every aspect of the game.
Other than manipulating Evan on The Duel Wes had an awful social game those first two seasons. Wes was also outperformed in both finals. Your analysis makes him out to be Landon which he wasn't. He wasn't well liked or as strategic as he is now. Jodi losing to V is a valid point against my comparison so I'll concede that but you're giving Wes too much credit IMO.
I still get angry when re-watching The Inferno II and seeing how Rachel/V/Tina but especially Dan treated Jodi. And like her team wasn't even fighting back. And Rachel is my all time fav, and I love how Veronica admitted in a confessional that she was just mad she didn't think of the loop hole first. That episode made me hate Dan forever but he never came back again so oh well lol. That was such a weird elminiation too...lol. And I'm even more shocked that Jodi was never asked back or even got an avaialability call after The Duel. She said so on her '15 Min of Blame' interview last year.
What If: Jodi had beat Veronica in the toilet paper spin elminiation. Would she have made it to the end that season?
What if Anika beat Jenna on Invasion? I see her making it to at least where Sylvia was eliminated but if she made it further than that, she would’ve been locked for the final
Kailah loses to Sylvia/Anika in tuk tuk
Sylvia loses to Anika in Bell Ringer (or vice versa)
Nicole loses part 1 of bloodbath
Ashley vs Amanda vs Anika would’ve went either way but I see Ashley & Anika coming out on top.
Anika could’ve probably slayed the final tbh and been the champ over Ashley.
What if Anika beat Jenna on Invasion? I see her making it to at least where Sylvia was eliminated but if she made it further than that, she would’ve been locked for the finalKailah loses to Sylvia/Anika in tuk tukSylvia loses to Anika in Bell Ringer (or vice versa)Nicole loses part 1 of bloodbathAshley vs Amanda vs Anika would’ve went either way but I see Ashley & Anika coming out on top. Anika could’ve probably slayed the final tbh and been the champ over Ashley.
What if Anika beat Jenna on Invasion? I see her making it to at least where Sylvia was eliminated but if she made it further than that, she would’ve been locked for the finalKailah loses to Sylvia/Anika in tuk tukSylvia loses to Anika in Bell Ringer (or vice versa)Nicole loses part 1 of bloodbathAshley vs Amanda vs Anika would’ve went either way but I see Ashley & Anika coming out on top. Anika could’ve probably slayed the final tbh and been the champ over Ashley.
What if Anika beat Jenna on Invasion? I see her making it to at least where Sylvia was eliminated but if she made it further than that, she would’ve been locked for the finalKailah loses to Sylvia/Anika in tuk tukSylvia loses to Anika in Bell Ringer (or vice versa)Nicole loses part 1 of bloodbathAshley vs Amanda vs Anika would’ve went either way but I see Ashley & Anika coming out on top. Anika could’ve probably slayed the final tbh and been the champ over Ashley.
This is not the fantasy thread, cup.
Sis it’s actually a possibility. Don’t even do it!
I don't think Anika reaches the final but I also don't think she's anywhere near as bad as people make her out to be. Invasion was tough to judge people on though.
Anika was all sticks and bones, that girl would’ve got thrashed in anything physical and you know how production loves to throw physical eliminations to the small girls against bigger girls.
I feel like we would look at him the same way we look at Landon as one of the Greatest of All Time. Carried a weak Casey on FM even though he was hated from Day 1 and won the Duel by socially playing everyone even though he was in the minority alliance and doing very well physically. He's had some shining moments his last few seasons but a few duds also.
I don´t think so. She repeatedly said that reaching the final was a team effort (meaning neither Marie carried her nor she carried her). And more than one cast member has mentioned that they feel like the result of the final may have been influenced by the fact that production knew that Ashley/Hunter were the only team who was gonna steal.Besides, she mentioned her disapproval of John´s move and would probably not want to deal with the backlash.
I'm pretty sure she said in a confessional that she would 100% take Marie's money but okay lmao
I thought Cara said she would never steal the money a couple years back?
Personally, I think Wes would be remembered like Jodi especially since many believe Brad outperformed him on The Duel final.
I feel like throwing eliminations like this is what curses you never to win tbh
Funny enough everyone knows Mark wants to return yet he hasnt been back since throwing the elimination on Exes same for Adam
Even though he was pretty much terrible, the same thing applies to Dunbar when he threw the first elimination on Rivals II
When did Adam throw one? I was so mad at Mark when I heard that. I wanted Robin in that finale. Robin's story looked sadder as the years went on. She was in her prime during Battle of the Sexes 2.
What if Mark and Robin had made it to the finale of Exes 1 and knocked out Camilla and John? Any change in the outcome for the finale?
Yeah it's probably a safe bet that John and Camila don't win
Adam was pretty much throwing everything he could on the original "Rivals" because he was getting his orders from Evan, Kenny and Johnny, who all wanted no part of facing CT in an elimination round. If I'm remembering correctly, Adam even said on camera that he'd rather lose that Challenge himself than help CT win.
LMAO
Honestly, if you throw an elimination round when you have a partner or quit you should never return. I'm happy Mark, Adam & Dunbar haven't been back. I'm sure Mark & Adam made money when they threw the elimination.
touche lol
Add Evan to that list. I forgot that he threw the elimination against CT & Adam on Rivals.
I don't think he threw the elimination. He threw the mission that sent them in but he allegedly threw the elimination? That's news to me and really stupid on his part.
I'm pretty sure he only went on Rivals to help out Kenny and was happy to throw himself into elimination. Best case scenario, he beats CT and looks amazing, worst case, he goes home when he didn't really want to be there anyways
Yeah, he threw the mission but not the elimination. Which was also stupid but they definitely wanted the final 3 to be Evan/Nehemiah, John/Tyler and Kenny/Wes. Now if he faced one of those two teams he may have thrown it but he really thought he could beat CT. Or maybe he just thought Adam would throw it.
IF CORAL CAME THROUGH THAT DOOR, ******* SHOOK.
I'd say much better because Jodi never had to use a social game to get far, carry a weak partner and the only thing that comes to mind when you say Jodi and elimination is her freaking out and losing to Veronica. After Duel, Wes seemed untouchable in every aspect of the game.
Other than manipulating Evan on The Duel Wes had an awful social game those first two seasons. Wes was also outperformed in both finals. Your analysis makes him out to be Landon which he wasn't. He wasn't well liked or as strategic as he is now. Jodi losing to V is a valid point against my comparison so I'll concede that but you're giving Wes too much credit IMO.
I still get angry when re-watching The Inferno II and seeing how Rachel/V/Tina but especially Dan treated Jodi. And like her team wasn't even fighting back. And Rachel is my all time fav, and I love how Veronica admitted in a confessional that she was just mad she didn't think of the loop hole first. That episode made me hate Dan forever but he never came back again so oh well lol. That was such a weird elminiation too...lol. And I'm even more shocked that Jodi was never asked back or even got an avaialability call after The Duel. She said so on her '15 Min of Blame' interview last year.
What If: Jodi had beat Veronica in the toilet paper spin elminiation. Would she have made it to the end that season?
What if Anika beat Jenna on Invasion? I see her making it to at least where Sylvia was eliminated but if she made it further than that, she would’ve been locked for the final
Kailah loses to Sylvia/Anika in tuk tuk
Sylvia loses to Anika in Bell Ringer (or vice versa)
Nicole loses part 1 of bloodbath
Ashley vs Amanda vs Anika would’ve went either way but I see Ashley & Anika coming out on top.
Anika could’ve probably slayed the final tbh and been the champ over Ashley.
This is not the fantasy thread, cup.
Sis it’s actually a possibility. Don’t even do it!
I don't think Anika reaches the final but I also don't think she's anywhere near as bad as people make her out to be. Invasion was tough to judge people on though.
Anika honestly might be even worse than what everyone thinks lol I'd probably take Jemmye over her
Anika was all sticks and bones, that girl would’ve got thrashed in anything physical and you know how production loves to throw physical eliminations to the small girls against bigger girls.
Anika getting tossed off the cliff by Jenna was an iconic moment >>>
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