Wow, wow, wow, calm down people. Think about we are never ever gonna get the casts of the past, its simple. Most of the older cast members who we all want back, have lives now, and jobs/families. We get younger people from younger seasons. Also, for anybody saying that this is a bad cast/blah blah. Who cares, are you not gonna watch, then that is your problem. Enjoy the challenge, for the challenge.
Molds thanks for the post.
Molds, thank you!
As for the cast, I like it. But I am curious about the format. I am hoping for a team challenge and I do not want it to be a teams of 4 like the last one!
I am happy to see CT, Diem, Sarah, Emily, Danny, Leroy and Trishelle. Hope they win somehow (especially CT, Diem, Sarah and Emily!!)
I don't think anyone excepts a cast with all old schoolers, I just want one or two random people every challenge. Really Sam was a top 16 option? No. Completely stupid. Preston and Derek? OMG! I can't not wait for the three confessionals they get this season on their elimination episode.
It's impossible for MTV to please the masses, as evidenced by some of the complaints about the cast for the upcoming challenge. Granted, I'm not a fan of Frank/Zack but I'm very happy that it's been confirmed that we're having another challenge. I must be in the minority on this board because I like Wes. But, I would like him to come into the challenge and give it his best effort like the Wes of old.
I would, also, like to thank Molds13 fo posting the list. That's why you are called Super Moderator. :congratulatory:
[QUOTE=TDMEL52;339102] Who cares, are you not gonna watch, then that is your problem...[/QUOTE]
Well, there is the issue and it can be your problem, too. Given that this challenge will air after RW Portland which had such a low opening viewer number, MTV needs everyone watching that it can find or the cost per viewer will simply be too high to continue.
Since everyone else is doing these ...
Here are my thoughts.
Males
CT: I kinda expected him to be on this one. Hope he doesn't flake in the finals.
Danny: I actually like him, even though he hasn't done much.
Derek: WTF. They brought him in over Tyler? He's a piece of trash.
Dunbar: I wish other Sydney people were here with him. Namely KellyAnne and Cohutta.
Frank: If he is as reformed as he says he is, I'll be ok with him.
Johnny: He needs to get a real job.
Jordan: I'm excited for all the new kids that haven't done one yet.
Knight: He sounds drunk all the time. And I don't appreciate what he did to Nany. And he looks fat.
Leroy: YES. Winner right here.
Marlon: See Jordan.
Preston: This was an unwelcome surprise. They should have brought in Swift instead.
Robb: I like him. Hope he goes far.
Trey: I used to like him, but not now after he and Laura broke up.
Tyrie: This was ... an interesting surprise. I would rather have seen Davis instead.
Wes: Blah.
Zach: I want to see him without Frank. That being said, still a good pickup athletically.
Females:
Anastasia: See Jordan.
Camila: She is so confusing. I felt bad for her on BOTS, but other seasons I could have cared less about her.
Cooke: See Jordan
Diem: YES. So inspirational. She deserves to win one [and should have won Exes IMO].
Emily: YES. Same as Diem.
Jasmine: I thought she retired. Why is she here?
Jemmye: I like her, but I don't love her. But she's decent.
Jessica: See Jordan. On a side note, they should have brought in Laura just for her, instead of people like Sam. or Jonna. or Jasmine.
Jonna: No, seriously. I couldn't give less ****s that she was here. Person I want to least see here. Don't care about her stupid story, don't care about her ******* around with Zach. I guess I just don't like the Cancun people on this season. They're so annoying. But she needs to go home.
Nany: I like her a lot. Hope she goes really far and kicks ***.
Naomi: Good luck. You'll need it.
Paula: You need a real job, especially after you and Bananas threw fits after not being on the last one. And I have no respect for you, especially after bullying Cara Maria in Rivals. Go home.
Sam: WHY DIDN'T THEY PICK LAURA INSTEAD.
Sarah: I LOVE Sarah. She could go on every challenge for I care. Keep kicking ***!
Theresa: The only nice surprise [the other surprises being Sam and Preston]. Good luck!
Trishelle: I feel like she's gonna come on every season now ...
It may be a strech but Theresa may be a rookie, if MTV does not consider Fresh Meat an actual challenge. her first appearance would be Cutthroat and then Rivals.
yes but I do feel the viwership for the challenge is always better than the real world, as sometimes people get tired of it, and can't watch it, or they are getting old. But the challenge still gets young and late 30's. early 40.
I'd say they will put Emily on the Rookies squad. I couldn't see them putting Jonna on the rookies squad, and Jasmine & Derek on the veterans team. If you look at the cast dynamic, and breaking them down into Rookies & Veterans - you'll see much of the Rookies are grouped in the same season, with the lone person being Emily. Veterans squad is split between Battle of the Exes, Battle of the Seasons, and Theresa.
The cast is decent. If its rookies vs veterans, emily or jonna are going to be the rookie girl. It may be jonna because of her relationship with zach.
Pumped for COOKE!!!!!!
[QUOTE=Kajun;339114]You guys do realize it might not be rookies vs vets right?hz[/QUOTE]
Yeah, all my guesses are assuming it's Rookies vs. Vets. But I couldn't see them having a balanced cast of Rookies vs. Vets and that NOT coming into play.
[QUOTE=Kajun;339114]You guys do realize it might not be rookies vs vets right?hz[/QUOTE]
It might not be but then what do you think the format is? It can't be a duel, too many people. Also I doubt it'll be another small team challenge, we keep getting pairs and we just had a team of 4 too, it's getting boring even BMP has to know it's time for larger team and singles formats?
Jonna and Zach on the same team would be stupid , Jonna wants the world to see Zach true colors the best bet is to put her on the opposite team. Since Cooke is there it would not make sense to have two heavy hitter females on one tim kinda like having Zach and C.J on the same time that why I am more inclided to think Theresa is a rookie plus she is the more easier explanation. Debut Season: Fresh Meat 2 #Challenge Seasons: Cutthroat and Rivals.
[QUOTE=CASTOFF;339105]It's impossible for MTV to please the masses, as evidenced by some of the complaints about the cast for the upcoming challenge. Granted, I'm not a fan of Frank/Zack but I'm very happy that it's been confirmed that we're having another challenge. [B]I must be in the minority on this board because I like Wes.[/B] But, I would like him to come into the challenge and give it his best effort like the Wes of old.
I would, also, like to thank Molds13 fo posting the list. That's why you are called Super Moderator. :congratulatory:[/QUOTE]
I like Wes. Even if he doesn't really compete anymore he still always brings some form of drama.
Zach and Jonna is bound to cause more drama on the same team, they won't even have to interact if they're not, if it can create a potential spark for drama then it makes sense
[QUOTE=Snake19;339122]Zach and Jonna is bound to cause more drama on the same team, they won't even have to interact if they're not, if it can create a potential spark for drama then it makes sense[/QUOTE]
That's what I was thinking.
[QUOTE=Snake19;339122]Zach and Jonna is bound to cause more drama on the same team, they won't even have to interact if they're not, if it can create a potential spark for drama then it makes sense[/QUOTE]
That's one way but the way I was thinking no is because it's a team format that would require more focus on the other team everytime Jonna and Zach would get into it, Frank would most likely step in and mediate. If she is on the opposite team she can go for Zach and get people like Wes,C.T and Johnny to go after him thus creating more drama but only time will tell. I mean Zach and Jonna cannot create interesting enough drama without help of Jasmin and Frank IMHO.
[QUOTE=Npresh24;339124]That's one way but the way I was thinking no is because it's a team format that would require more focus on the other team everytime Jonna and Zach would get into it, Frank would most likely step in and mediate. If she is on the opposite team she can go for Zach and get people like Wes,C.T and Johnny to go after him thus creating more drama but only time will tell. I mean Zach and Jonna cannot create interesting enough drama without help of Jasmin and Frank IMHO.[/QUOTE]
CT, Wes and Johnny will not be listening to anything [strike]joanna[/strike] Jonna says.
I am curious though as to how CT and Johnny will treat Wes. They should theoretically want to have him since he dislikes the rookies as well and is probably one of their better guys. I personally would maybe like to see Wes send Frank home in a redemption storyline where Wes essentially erases his past sins by taking out the man that no one likes.
[QUOTE=TheCloser;339127]CT, Wes and Johnny will not be listening to anything [strike]joanna[/strike] Jonna says.[/QUOTE]
The Rookie team is going to be filled with drama. Trey is buddy buddy with Robb and the Portland cast, Zach/Frank are the better players but look outnumbered alliance wise, so throwing Jonna as a little note on top of everything else they will have to deal with is just a little truffle of added goodness. There's going to be a huge power struggle on that team too so Jonna taking sides is bound to cause something, being on the Vets team will take that aspect away because there's no way she'd be making decisions on a team with CT/Johnny/Wes
[QUOTE=Snake19;339132]The Rookie team is going to be filled with drama. Trey is buddy buddy with Robb and the Portland cast, Zach/Frank are the better players but look outnumbered alliance wise, so throwing Jonna as a little note on top of everything else they will have to deal with is just a little truffle of added goodness. There's going to be a huge power struggle on that team too so Jonna taking sides is bound to cause something, being on the Vets team will take that aspect away because there's no way she'd be making decisions on a team with CT/Johnny/Wes[/QUOTE]
I agree.
Ct and Johnny are not going to work with wes because 1. He is the shadiest cast member in challenge history and 2. He doesn't work out anymore, so there is no way they would want him in the final.
Hasn't it been said in past posts about how miserable the cast/crew were when the Ruins was filmed in Thailand? Has anything changed that will make the cast able to leave the house this time and relieve some of the tension from the close quarters? If not, I could see a lot of drama that would be caused by this aspect. I would love to see some fun times in the house instead of all negative drama. That was what was fun about the early challenges. Of course, there was drama but the fun times seemed to balance it out.
[QUOTE=Snake19;339132]The Rookie team is going to be filled with drama. Trey is buddy buddy with Robb and the Portland cast, Zach/Frank are the better players but look outnumbered alliance wise, so throwing Jonna as a little note on top of everything else they will have to deal with is just a little truffle of added goodness. There's going to be a huge power struggle on that team too so Jonna taking sides is bound to cause something, being on the Vets team will take that aspect away because there's no way she'd be making decisions on a team with CT/Johnny/Wes[/QUOTE]
So is it officially rookies vs vets? Cause format changes everything, if its like ruins 2 then the challengers team will suck, only good one is CT. And does Jonna have bad blood with Zach??
So after reading V1man's post about his expectation of a new concept, I got this feeling that he knows something.
1) I dont think he would have wrote something speculative in this "non speculation thread" if he didnt know something. Just like his comment about Wes and his friend.
2) It is just too obvious that this Old vs. New thing is happening and almost everybody is expecting/expected this Vets vs. Rookies even the castmembers. The only one who was/is not expecting it is/was V1man (First pairings like FM then this new concept). But it would be a good twist/surprise for everybody, if this Rookie/Vets beef will not happen.
3) It's V1man.
4) This new concept would actually explode a lot of predictablity and pre-show alliances. Two of the things V1 criticise BMP/MTV for.
5) Molds 13 hasnt put the castmembers into the obvious "Vets" and "Rookie" teams, but just in "Men" and "Women". She usually puts the castmembers in the right order/team after she realeases the castmembers.
6) Emily/Jonna/Theresa situation. I don't think BMP/MTV would put Emily on the rookie team with Cooke, but the other girls doesn't make sense either to be on the rookie team.
7) CT/Johnny/Leroy/Wes/Paula/Diem/Emily/Sarah on one team won't really cost drama with Danny/Tyrie/Jasmine/Derek/Jasmine/Theresa/Trishelle as their sacrafices
8) Just like Wes, I dont think Derek would have wanted to be a part of this challenge, where he knew he would be the first one out.
This post wasnt meant to be an attack on you (V1man)
Thanks Molds for the cast!! :)
And Yes!! Emily is in this challenge!!! I can't wait to see her dominate!!! and making it to the finals.... again!! :P Shes always been in the finals and shes still undefeated in eliminations! (5-0). I think some people may dislike her cause they are threaten she will eliminate one of their female faves. Her athleticism intimidates people, buahahhaa xD.
Also very excited to see Cooke!!! She will seriously dominate and I will love to see an Emily vs Cooke physical elimination match!
In the guys side, I'm excited to see Wes, CT, Leroy and Rob. I'm also interested in seeing what happens with Frank and Johnny, since I'm not a fan of either of them I would enjoy watching both of them going against each other politically or in a elimination, lol.
Anyway, I'm excited for this challenge!!! Ohh and the Paula shade!!! lmao!!! That was flawless!!! hahahaha!
[QUOTE=Blue123;339142]So is it officially rookies vs vets? Cause format changes everything, if its like ruins 2 then the challengers team will suck, only good one is CT. And does Jonna have bad blood with Zach??[/QUOTE]
If it's Ruins 2 it does not mean the team concept has to be Champs vs Challengers, for starters there isn't even an even amount of champs. If it's Vets vs Rookies it does not have to be Gauntlet 4.
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