[QUOTE=kvm1977;321891]Maybe the worst episode during the entire history of the Challenge--very disappointing.[/QUOTE]
That's a bit of a stretch you cannot be serious. Dude, just stop watching and posting.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;321891]Maybe the worst episode during the entire history of the Challenge--very disappointing.[/QUOTE]
No. I don't know what episode you were watching.
[QUOTE=wutzrenzi;321895]That's a big of a stretch you cannot be serious. Dude, just stop watching and posting.[/QUOTE]
Do you just watch for drama? This isn't the Real World. This is supposed to be about competition and we saw almost none of that.
I truly believe BMP wants the show to fail at this point. JEK must be loving the disaster this season has become. How much do you want to bet rating drop again next week. This isn't going to help them at all
[QUOTE=kvm1977;321899]Do you just watch for drama? This isn't the Real World. This is supposed to be about competition and we saw almost none of that.
[B]I truly believe BMP wants the show to fail at this point. [/B] JEK must be loving the disaster this season has become. How much do you want to bet rating drop again next week. This isn't going to help them at all[/QUOTE]
No. Everyone that I love who is watching the show, loves it so far.
You should try watching Big Brother if you want boring competition and talking out your problems.
And no one cares about JEK..except you.
[QUOTE=YvanEhtNioj;321900]No. Everyone that I love who is watching the show, loves it so far.
You should try watching Big Brother if you want boring competition and talking out your problems.
And no one cares about JEK..except you.[/QUOTE]
For starters, I don't like any of JEK--I think they're all idiots but this isn't the Real World--if I wanted to watch the Real World I would watch it.
Big Brother is a show I like and I've been watching the Challenge since the very beginning.
Who is loving this show? Check the ratings...
Knight looks like an idiot, but tbh he always does, but like he says he is playing the game and doesn't care if they think he is a dbag. Nany doesn't look much better with it all when you look at the whole thing.
Why is this an aftershow, where is Kenny to host?
[QUOTE=kvm1977;321901]For starters, I don't like any of JEK--I think they're all idiots but this isn't the Real World--if I wanted to watch the Real World I would watch it.
Big Brother is a show I like and I've been watching the Challenge since the very beginning.
Who is loving this show? Check the ratings...[/QUOTE]
You mad?
Don't like = don't watch = don't whine.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;321899]Do you just watch for drama? This isn't the Real World. This is supposed to be about competition and we saw almost none of that.
I truly believe BMP wants the show to fail at this point. JEK must be loving the disaster this season has become. How much do you want to bet rating drop again next week. This isn't going to help them at all[/QUOTE]
These people come from The Real World are you forgetting that? They are dramatic. Reality TV is made for drama (well most but not all). I love the competition too and I love the drama as well.
I guess this is your farewell?
[QUOTE=YvanEhtNioj;321900]
And no one cares about JEK..except you.[/QUOTE]
Negative.
[QUOTE=jojorules;321902]
Why is this an aftershow, where is Kenny to host?[/QUOTE]
I think they are trying to be nostalgic by bringing JM back. I miss when he hosted the challenge back when it was actually funny.
[QUOTE=YvanEhtNioj;321900]No. Everyone that I love who is watching the show, loves it so far.
You should try watching Big Brother if you want boring competition and talking out your problems.
And no one cares about JEK..except you.[/QUOTE]
It seems like one of the best things to do is avoid blanket statements about what everyone likes or no one likes.
I like to see a show that has a nice balance between what goes on in the house and the actual athletic competition. We saw no elimination this episode and there was probably, realistically about 5-7 minutes total of the actual challenge. The other 35 minutes of the show was just people screaming at each other, most of which you couldn't catch because of the bleeping, and the Eric/Devyn scenes. I personally don't find that entertaining but to each their own.
Completely unrelated to the post I quoted but it seems like they're running out of ideas for the actual game...we've had two hook type challenges in consecutive seasons and now another trivia question + flinging into water.
[QUOTE=YvanEhtNioj;321896]No. I don't know what episode you were watching.[/QUOTE]
I agree. It was amazing! That's how the challenges should be. Some good competition, but LOTS of drama and fighting, which makes good entertainment. If people only watched for the sports stuff and ignored the drama/relationship parts, shouldn't they just watch real sports
[QUOTE=YvanEhtNioj;321903]You mad?
Don't like = don't watch = don't whine.[/QUOTE]
This forum is to discuss the show. That's pros and cons. Just because you're a fan of the show doesn't mean you have to like every episode.
Again, this episode was all drama and no substance. If wanted that I'd watch the Real World not the Challenge. They aren't supposed to be the same. I stopped watching the Real World around the time Paris aired. If I still wanted to watch those shows I would--unfortunately tonight this episode was something that the Real World viewers would love. The viewers that make up the Challenge demographic aren't the same. Many Challengers viewers not watch the Real World and vise-versa.
Let's see what the ratings are next week--watch it drop.
I prefer a more drama challenge but drama during the challenge/eliminations..But I love sports watching and playing, so I guess that's where that comes from.
EX: T-Bone during rivals. Huge drama lots of emotion, but in the form of action and competition not a bad girls club type fight. I am not a fan of that or those shows.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;321908]This forum is to discuss the show. That's pros and cons.
Just because you're a fan of the show doesn't mean you have to like every episode
Again, this episode was all drama and no substance. If wanted that I'd watch the Real World not the Challenge. They aren't supposed to be the same. I stop watching the Real World around the time Paris aired. If I still wanted to watch those shows I would--unfortunately tonight this episode was something that the Real World viewers would love. The viewers that make up the Challenge demographic aren't the same. Many Challengers viewers not watch the Real World and vise-versa.
Let's see what the ratings are next week--watch it drop[/QUOTE]
If it drops, it's because it's got tough competition this week; not because the episode is bad.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;321899]Do you just watch for drama? This isn't the Real World. This is supposed to be about competition and we saw almost none of that.
I truly believe BMP wants the show to fail at this point. JEK must be loving the disaster this season has become. How much do you want to bet rating drop again next week. This isn't going to help them at all[/QUOTE]
It's about some competition mixed with drama. That's the key. It can't ALL be about competition or it'd be boring. This episode had competition. It had a lot of showing of strength and stuff.
[QUOTE=YvanEhtNioj;321910]If it drops, it's because it's got tough competition this week; not because the episode is bad.[/QUOTE]
I said next week it will drop--not this current episode--next week. This episode did not cater to about half their viewers. It could have been a great episode with the drama and an elimination round but they failed miserably.
[QUOTE=Seminole;321911]It's about some competition mixed with drama. That's the key. It can't ALL be about competition or it'd be boring. This episode had competition. It had a lot of showing of strength and stuff.[/QUOTE]
This episode had about 5 minutes of competition which was basically pointless do to the set up of the mission. That's not balance.
True...but the episodes don't usually have half and half. It's always been leaning slightly more towards drama, that's good reality TV. The games they play have airtime, which is what seperates it from the Real World. And I see what you mean about no elim, but remember, there is a LOT of drama this week that they had to cram which was critical.
Maybe next week they have TWO eliminations + competition :)
After all, the preview didn't have drama ;)
[QUOTE=kvm1977;321913]I said next week it will drop--not this current episode--next week
This episode did not cater to about half their viewers
It could have been a great episode with the drama and an elimination round but they failed miserably.[/QUOTE]
Gotcha. All I'm saying is if you search hashtage "TheChallenge" or any cast members name, everyone who is watching it love the show. B/M realizes that it's a new generation where people want to see more drama.
And also, keep in mind that the majority of the people on the challenge this season are pretty new; their seasons were only a couple years ago. Meaning they are still mentally unstable people.
[QUOTE=wutzrenzi;321912]OMG they are dogging Eric like crazy on this aftershow clip of what the cast members had to say about Eric & Devyn's romance.[/QUOTE]
Camila looks grouchy in all her interviews...and basically any time the camera is on her.
[QUOTE=Seminole;321915]True...but the episodes don't usually have half and half. It's always been leaning slightly more towards drama, thats good reality TV. The games they play have airtime, which is what seperates it from the Real World. And I see what you mean about no elim, but remember, there is a LOT of drama this week that they had to cram which was critical.
Maybe next week they have TWO eliminations + competition :)[/QUOTE]
I understand what you're saying but they're going to lose viewers doing that
Next week I'm going to watch at 11 or when it is aired later and I'll watch American Horror Story instead.
****, the drama didn't even deal with game play other than about 5 minutes between Marie & the alliance and Chet & CJ
[QUOTE=YvanEhtNioj;321916]Gotcha. All I'm saying is if you search hashtage "TheChallenge" or any cast members name, everyone who i watching it love the show. B/M realizes that it's a new generation where people want to see more drama.
And also, keep in mind that the majority of the people on the challenge this season are pretty new; there seasons were only a couple years ago. Meaning they are still mentally unstable people.[/QUOTE]
I don't care about Twitter nor do the people at MTV--they care about ratings.
And, no, not everyone loves this season. There have been countless complaints about the cast.
Mentally unstable and drama are fine but there needs to be a mix--there was none tonight. No competition at all--other than a poorly designed mission.
[QUOTE=TheKorean;321922]Whoever said this episode was the worst in challenge history must've skipped over the whole season of [B]the Island[/B] and Fresh Meat 2.[/QUOTE]
Enough said.
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