Real World/Road Rules Challenge: Past Seasons

[QUOTE=Jonlu08;39550]Hey V1Man the speech Evelyn gave when she took Bananas key was that the full speech or did BMP edit it out?[/QUOTE] I don't recall. When I get around to doing the rest of our interview with her, I'll try to remember to ask her that question. If you have a myspace page, you can ask her yourself. She often responds to people who are respectful in their messages to her.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8VESyEFaaM]YouTube - RealWorld/RoadRules Challenge 2000: Amaya Vs. Veronica[/url] heres a very old challenge focusing on the feud between amaya and veronica.

[quote=Jonlu08;39550]Hey V1Man the speech Evelyn gave when she took Bananas key was that the full speech or did BMP edit it out?[/quote] I believe her full unedited speech is on MTV.com under the challenge dailies!

Thanks for finding that clip jhl! Amaya clotheslining Veronica is one of the classic moments of all the challenges. I loved that season.

I also dont know if the Duel 1 counts as a challenge Evan, Kenny and Johnny were "together" on, since Johnny was there for like 2 days before going home.

[QUOTE=mattyw66;39754]I also dont know if the Duel 1 counts as a challenge Evan, Kenny and Johnny were "together" on, since Johnny was there for like 2 days before going home.[/QUOTE] ahh how I remember those days where I could actually tolerate Johnny, and was actually hoping he would go far. Little did I know...

[quote=mph922;39806]ahh how I remember those days where I could actually tolerate Johnny, and was actually hoping he would go far. Little did I know...[/quote] Yeah like on Inferno 3 when he was actually a "good guy". I'd never expect him to turn out like he did on the Island.

[quote=dplayer18;39824]Yeah like on Inferno 3 when he was actually a "good guy". I'd never expect him to turn out like he did on the Island.[/quote] I think he became an ****ole on the gauntlet III when his alter-ego "Johnny Bannanas" came out. Like Coral knew of the Miz before Mike let that alter-ego come forward, but for the Duel and Inferno III, he was simply just "John." When he entered the gauntlet III, evan and kenny had a large contribution to his cockiness which I'm guessing he carried over to the island

[quote=mattyw66;39928]I think he became an ****ole on the gauntlet III when his alter-ego "Johnny Bannanas" came out. Like Coral knew of the Miz before Mike let that alter-ego come forward, but for the Duel and Inferno III, he was simply just "John." When he entered the gauntlet III, evan and kenny had a large contribution to his cockiness which I'm guessing he carried over to the island[/quote] I agree. I think he wanted to start the whole alter-ego thing as a way to get him to the end. It kinda reminded me of Evan when he was eliminated from the Duel 1, when Evan was saying that he had to sell his soul to the devil in order to win one of these shows.

Not like it matters, but I do remember Johnny referring to himself as "bananas" on his Key West season. It must have just festered into more since then LoL.

[quote=OtherPplsDrama;39931]Not like it matters, but I do remember Johnny referring to himself as "bananas" on his Key West season. It must have just festered into more since then LoL.[/quote] Yep, he did show the "Johnny Bananas" thing during his season. Apparently he's at least had it since college. Remember Kelly Anne telling the story she heard about how he got his nickname? But I thought Johnny Bananas was supposed to be a fun loving, easy-going, party guy who loved his blow-up doll girlfriends. Perhaps I've read things wrong. Have we been seeing John lately, or Johnny Bananas? :sly: I'd prefer his alter ego be the jerky version of him, as opposed to the real person John. As for Evan, maybe he should try a different strategy that selling his soul. Though he didn't make it to the end of Fresh Meat (because of a prior existing hernia, as well as Coral dislocating her kneecap), he did very well when he was there and was also seen as a nicer guy. Selling his soul hasn't helped him yet. Look at The Duel - he tried to cheat and got tricked by Wes. Then on G3 he treated some of his friends and people who weren't his friends ****** and lost. He is a very good competitor, but he does stuff to try and seriously manipulate the game (throwing missions, having a cheat sheet, trying to cut deals, etc) and messes himself up.

Evan was really cool and funny on Fresh Meat. Him and Coral were almost unstoppable together. I think he became hated by the fans since he "sold his soul to the devil" after Duel 1. Thats why he aligned himself with CT and Kenny on G3.

Idk a part of me really likes Evan. I think he is really cool, but what pissed me off the most is what he did to Coral. That was mean and not called for

[QUOTE=ejborys22;39946]Idk a part of me really likes Evan. I think he is really cool, but what pissed me off the most is what he did to Coral. That was mean and not called for[/QUOTE] Unfortunately, that defines much of his behavior and not just toward Coral.

I may be wrong here but editing people out has happened before right with Piggy/Christena. Didn't they take out Christena arriving on the beach or something?

Yes, Piggy was edited out from the Inferno 1 when the cast arrived on the boats but there is one scene where you can see her walking with the rest of the cast from the back. They just didnt mention it until Christena arrived in Mexico to take her spot.

Aw man. I would've loved to see Piggy. Did she still look the same? What part of the episode can you see her? I don't remember them mentioning Piggy at all.

[quote=V1man;39947]Unfortunately, that defines much of his behavior and not just toward Coral.[/quote] I know but a lot of people are mean to eachother on these challenges, but I was just saying Coral because they seemed so close on FR.

[quote=ejborys22;40005]I know but a lot of people are mean to eachother on these challenges, but I was just saying Coral because they seemed so close on FR.[/quote] Thats true. Since him and Coral were close he should have never done that. I know people on these shows backstab each other all the time, but Coral and him were real cool. Thats when I started to dislike Evan also. I think maybe he only did that since he was with CT and Kenny. I don't he would be that bad without Kenny and Johnny.

[QUOTE=dplayer18;40017]Thats true. Since him and Coral were close he should have never done that. I know people on these shows backstab each other all the time, but Coral and him were real cool. Thats when I started to dislike Evan also. I think maybe he only did that since he was with CT and Kenny. I don't he would be that bad without Kenny and Johnny.[/QUOTE] I believe he did it to get to the end and win. Once you become a veteran, you realize that you have to align with dirty players and sell you soul to anyone buying.

[quote=Blaqk;40023]I believe he did it to get to the end and win. Once you become a veteran, you realize that you have to align with dirty players and sell you soul to anyone buying.[/quote] Yeah I think that why he did that. I don't think that you necessarily have to align yourself with dirty player to make it to the end. Veterans like Coral, Miz, Alton and Landon have all made it to the end of alot of challenges without aligning themselves with dirty players.

[quote=dplayer18;40025]Yeah I think that why he did that. I don't think that you necessarily have to align yourself with dirty player to make it to the end. Veterans like Coral, Miz, Alton and Landon have all made it to the end of alot of challenges without aligning themselves with dirty players.[/quote] Well, some would view Coral and Mike as people who have played dirty on occassion. Perhaps they were not as horrible (without provocation or prior situation) as Evan, Kenny, CT, and co on G3. Perhaps they didn't treat their friends badly on challenges (although Mike did break a promise to Coral), but they didn't always eliminate the weakest people on their teams (note that I said teams, not individual or partner missions like Fresh Meat). And to some people that's unfair. I have not always agreed with who they've wanted to eliminate as well. I could understand them wanting to get rid of Seattle Stephen, but he and Lindsey were not the weakest team. Stephen just rubbed many people on that challenge the wrong way. But he didn't compete badly, and by Coral, Mike, RW Boston Sean (and either Elka or Danny, since they needed a majority of the Inner Circle to vote him off) voting him off they broke the RW team's agreement to vote off the weakest player. Coral was also one of the people to vote for Matt during The Gauntlet because he was annoying her. Though it wasn't just her - he would make judgmental comments that would make people upset. He said that girls only got fake ***** for men or something like that, and he made Tonya upset, Nathan also got upset at him as well during one deliberation, etc. Mike also started to vote for other girls on the RW team over Trishelle during The Gauntlet when she was messing up at some point because he was hooking up/dating Trishelle. I did think Coral deserved to go in when she did, but later on when she and Irulan and others did better than Trishelle, he kept voting for them until the team brought it to his attention. Mike was a part of that veteran guy alliance on BOTS2 (Mark, Eric, Theo, and Dan included) in which they were trying to protect the experienced guys over the new guys, although I feel he was gone before they made the "wrong/mean" decision of pulling a fast one on Brad. Mike also went along with David, CT, and Syrus to throw a mission to get rid of Leah. Coral was the only one against it. To her credit, she hasn't tried to throw a mission before on a challenge. I actually don't know for sure if she's completely against it or not, but she and Katie could have tried to throw the missions on G3 for the guys elimination days, but they didn't. I don't think they were really into doing that. Perhaps they saw that it was clear the other girls would not join them, because although the guys kept saying the girls were weak, they actually were protecting those girls, or those girls were plotting with them. Things were different back then though, since people typically tried to keep the strongest people in order to insure the best team. Of course there were a few votes here and there that didn't go just based on performance (i.e. The Gauntlet, when Sarah was voted in even when she was in the middle of the pack, Beth being voted off when she was next to last place instead of completely in last place, Yes and Veronica being voted off by the Chadwick & co. alliance, Emily voting off Veronica on BOTS for jealousy, etc), and of course the RR team threw a few missions to try to get rid of Katie, which was mean, though she was a weak link. But things weren't based mostly on friendship and major alliances as they are now. Today, those votes they made probably wouldn't be seen as shockingly bad. I do think Alton and Landon have played the game without being dirty. They did have an "agreement" as MJ called it, during G2 to watch out for each other, but Landon and Alton were the strongest guys on the team anyway, and there were other obvious choices for the gauntlet than Landon or MJ. Now that I think about it, it's kind of hard to really state a lot of people who have made it their goal to solely vote out the weakest people. But nobody made me as mad as Evan, Kenny, CT, Evelyn, Robin, etc on G3. With the exception of Veronica and co. on The Inferno. But at least they were trying to get rid of the clear weak link on the team that challenge, though I thought it was cruel to do that to Katie and I wish they didn't. The men on the first Battle of the Sexes went completely by the scoreboard, so that was fair and clean play. I think RR Sarah was fair and didn't play dirty.

favorite challenges: 1. The Duel (I hope the duel 2's even better) 2. Gauntlet 3 3. Fresh Meat 4. Gauntlet 2 5. Inferno 3 6. The island those are the only 1's i have seen. if i saw more the island would be lower. derrick, robin, abram, kenny, and dunbar were the only good characters. i think bot 2 was also bad tho

i think the toughest competitors now r: Evan, Brad, CT, Landon, Dunbar, MJ, and frank derrick, kenny, johnny, wes, jodi, darrell, evelyn, and aviv can't be invited back because they won a more individual challenge. the producers think that they will have more of an advantage if they compete, but i don't agree, i think they are some of the worst players except for derrick, jodi and darrell.

[QUOTE=ballinbroken;40099] derrick, kenny, johnny, wes, jodi, darrell, evelyn, and aviv can't be invited back because they won a more individual challenge. the producers think that they will have more of an advantage if they compete, but i don't agree, i think they are some of the worst players except for derrick, jodi and darrell.[/QUOTE] This statement is entirely factually inaccurate. Nothing could be further from the truth. At least two of those you named are already committed to the summer challenge and one other on the list is considering it. It's beyond me how you could make such a statement so openly.

[quote=ballinbroken;40099] derrick, kenny, johnny, wes, jodi, darrell, evelyn, and aviv can't be invited back because they won a more individual challenge. the producers think that they will have more of an advantage if they compete, but i don't agree, i think they are some of the worst players except for derrick, jodi and darrell.[/quote] First of all... LMAO. Wishful thinking, my dear. Second.. you don't win these challenges (sometimes multiple times) if you are among the weakest players.

[quote=Insider;40113]First of all... LMAO. Wishful thinking, my dear. Second.. you don't win these challenges (sometimes multiple times) if you are among the weakest players.[/quote] If you have good alliances or manage to win an elimination round or two, you can make it to the end even though you may be one of the weaker people. Katie from The Inferno is a big example. And her team won - she actually came through for them big with the puzzle clue about Trishelle during the final mission. Ibis was not too strong during G2 (though I don't think she's a really horrible competitor) and she made it to the end and won. And it's because Kina didn't want to put her in the gauntlet. There have been people who have won eliminations that were not expected to and it helped them to make it to the end. Sometimes people just luck out, too. There have been several strong players who have lost several times as well, on the flip side.

[QUOTE=V1man;40103]This statement is entirely factually inaccurate. Nothing could be further from the truth. At least two of those you named are already committed to the summer challenge and one other on the list is considering it. It's beyond me how you could make such a statement so openly.[/QUOTE] So, I assume that means that the challenges are coming for at least one more after Duel II?

[QUOTE]This statement is entirely factually inaccurate. Nothing could be further from the truth. At least two of those you named are already committed to the summer challenge and one other on the list is considering it. It's beyond me how you could make such a statement so openly.[/QUOTE] any chance you'd be willing to say if this challenge is going to be the Inferno 4?

[QUOTE=hpkhg45;40120]So, I assume that means that the challenges are coming for at least one more after Duel II?[/QUOTE] Insert a big "[SIZE="5"]If the NZ ratings are good and a new contract is issued"[/SIZE] in front of my comment. Of course, BMP is planning. That does not mean that MTV will give the green light to proceed.