The Challenge: Battle of the Exes - Spoiler Discussion

[QUOTE=Nightwolf;285418]Yes I know that splitting up guy/girl pairs won't ever be "fair," but there's a difference between say a team getting Johnny, Mark, and Leroy with the other team getting Casey, Robin, and Naomi and one team getting Johnny/Casey, Mark/Robin, and Leroy/Naomi.[/QUOTE] Not sure if you're understanding where Molds' head is at. They will be splitting up the teams in a manner where each "romance" is on opposite teams. Example (hypothetical cast) [COLOR="Red"]Mark/Robin,[/COLOR] [COLOR="Green"]Wes/Mandi[/COLOR], [COLOR="Orange"]Johnny/Casey[/COLOR], [COLOR="DimGray"]Vinny/Sarah[/COLOR], [COLOR="Indigo"]Tyrie/Jasmine[/COLOR], [COLOR="Blue"]Abram/CaraMaria[/COLOR], [COLOR="Sienna"]Aneesa/Rachel[/COLOR], Tyler/Ryan Either by captain selection or pre determined teams... Hypothetical Team 1: [COLOR="Red"]Mark[/COLOR] [COLOR="Orange"]Johnny[/COLOR] [COLOR="Indigo"]Tyrie[/COLOR] Ryan [COLOR="Green"]Mandi[/COLOR] [COLOR="DimGray"]Sarah[/COLOR] [COLOR="Blue"]Cara Maria[/COLOR] [COLOR="Sienna"]Rachel[/COLOR] Hypothetical Team 2: [COLOR="green"]Wes[/COLOR] [COLOR="DimGray"]Vinny[/COLOR] [COLOR="blue"]Abram[/COLOR] Tyler [COLOR="red"]Robin[/COLOR] [COLOR="Orange"]Casey[/COLOR] [COLOR="Indigo"]Jasmine[/COLOR] [COLOR="Sienna"]Aneesa[/COLOR]

I thought I saw an interview with Davis somewhere where he said he told himself he only would do 3 challenges because he didnt want to make a living doing challenges. I think he said he wanted to maybe do another one but he turned down the opportunity this go around. Oh and Diem had her Facebook profile picture changed to her MedGift ad picture.... seems like a good way to advertise while away.

I don't think Diem has been confirmed as a No either so there's still hope for her. I really don't think KellyAnne is there. She's been updating facebook and twitter and they don't sound like tweets or posts that someone would make if they were monitoring her account.

[QUOTE=CherryPie;286443][B]Leroy, CT:[/B] :heart: [B]Mark, Rachel:[/B] ******, strong, old-school vets ftw! so excited to see them. It's going to be good for the new cats to see how it's really done [B]Naomi, Jasmine:[/B] can't wait to see them together, they're going to be fiesty! [B]Johnny:[/B] "love him, he's just an *****" (Shauvon, Cutthroat) and "even though he's an a** and everybody hates him (...), I love (..) Johnny Bananas" (Camila, Cutthroat) pretty much sums it up :) [B]Camila:[/B] if she's like in Cutthroat then I'm all for her! It's a pleasant surprise they got her instead of Casey [B]Paula:[/B] love her, but she probably should have followed Brad's example and retired gracefully after her victory lol [B]Sarah:[/B] let's hope she finally wins ! [B]Robin:[/B] my opinion of her has drastically changed after watching Inferno 2; I actually really like her now. weird. She just got mind-****ed by how shady the new challengers have become.[B] Maybe Mark's presence will restore her sanity a bit[/B] [B]Vinny:[/B] nice to see other FM2 people [B]Dunbar:[/B] drama queen [B]Tyrie:[/B] I really like him after watching RW Denver, but his bark is very much bigger than his bite [B]Abram:[/B] Abe + CM = Abe - competitive drive [B]Aneesa, Dustin:[/B] meh... [B]Heather, Priscilla:[/B] I feel like they're going to be like Theresa and Mandi, so I'm not looking forward to them... [B]Nate, Cara Maria:[/B] don't want to see them [B]Wes:[/B] :dash2:[/QUOTE] Mark's presence on the Duel 2 did absolutely jack crap for her sanity. I expect her to be just as intolerable as the few times they showed her on rivals and Duel 2...I miss old Robin...

[QUOTE=molds13;286694]Maybe if it were a paper tearing contest, Vinny would stand a chance against any of them...[/QUOTE] What if they had a challenge where the objective was to convince gay kids to go to sleep?

Wow Wes got the boot 3rd, as a matter of fact the 3 male eliminations are all very interesting to me because I want to know who beat Nate, Vinny, and Wes. I wanna know who beat Nate because he seems like a strong guy and he's obviously very smart, but I think he lost in a physical elimination. I bet Vinny lost in a puzzle elimination or an endurance type elimination. As for Wes it could be anything he's good at all types of eliminations but he can be in any kind of elimination round depending on his opponent.

As for the alliance stuff I think the people that have gone home were in an alliance because Priscilla seems to be friends with Diem/Mandi/CT now, it doesnt seem likely that she would be friends with the ppl against her, so I think Leroy, Wes, CT, Vinny and maybe Dustin/Heather were all on one side and Mark, Johnny, Abe and whoever are on the other.

[QUOTE=jones10389;290284]Molds do you know who has won?[/QUOTE] If she knew, she would enlighten us.

Even with no wins, he is still very feared in both eliminations and finals, I think that says a lot about his ability and how big of a threat he is perceived to be by all the guys. It's like on the reunions they all act like oh he's just a regular guy, than on the next challenge they go back to trying to get rid of him at all costs. I think it took a lot of fluke things to happen to have him to have 0 wins to this point, i'll leave it at that on this thread. Even if he loses here, if there is another one, i see the same strategy being used as on Rivals. Ct/Diem getting their first win and not on good terms would be impressive. Just because it's a lot easier to want to give up/not try as hard when you don't like the other person and aren't fully invested. CT went on rivals right away trying to mend things with Adam, not so sure that's how it will be with Diem after the whole Duel 2 aftershow, even if it was a long time ago. I don't think they have kept in touch based on what Robin/Katie said on their podcasts, etc. I would think Johnny would know he would be tied for most wins, and would be making a much bigger deal about it on twitter with references about it. Just going by how Johnny is, and knowing he beat CT in a final he would be showing off I would think with subtle posts that challenge fans understand.

[QUOTE=ClubSandwich;283373]Every cast member rumored to be on the next challenge has been pretty flagrant with the amount of 'clues' or information they let out. Maybe BMP is actually encouraging these sort of slips since they know they can't keep the cast lists confidential anymore.[/QUOTE] Who is rumored to have been asked on this challenge anyways?

[QUOTE=GiggidyGoo90;283883]So who is the speculated cast right now? So far I know we got Johnny, Adam Royer, Nany, Dustin, Wes, and Cara Maria. Anybody else got any "confirmed" cast members via twitter?[/QUOTE] Leroy, Mark, Robin, Mandi and Priscilla (the last 4 took some type of test) Yay to Kelly Anne and ehhhhhhhhhhh to Paula, I thought she was retiring or at least taking a break after 9 challenges -.- and finally winning one. She is the new Tonya lol

For determining teams they can do like they did on Cutthroat and have a race to the elimination arena to determine the team captains. For example, Mark wins the race that means he's the captain of team 1 and Robin who is his ex will be on team 2, so Mark than has the 1st pick and he picks KellyAnne and that means team 2 gets Wes, then Mark picks Leroy and team 2 get Naomi, and so on and so forth.

[QUOTE=dylan76;285932]Dear God, mandi/theresa/camilla?? The trifecta of suck. Someone please tell me what makes them get asked back? And no Trishelle or Nani disappoints me greatly since they were the 2 I were most anticipating seeing.[/QUOTE] Please tell me why Sarah gets invited back, she's boring on every challenge yet has been on every single one since the ruins, even Mandi is more entertaining than her.

Did both the people posting their opinions on their cast forgot to mention Mandi?

[QUOTE=CzarEric;286699]clap.... clap.... clap.... ...clap[/QUOTE] LOL. It is the law of averages. I am wrong so often that it was bound to happen that I might be right once. The clue that it was similar to rivals but something new also helped since I assumed it would have to be pairings and that was the only possible pairing that would be new so far as I could see.

If it is a team challenge.. i am guessing that nate and vinny were sent home by wes.

Johnny WAS a lot more obvious about it on twitter after Rivals but it is possible that one of the producers gave him a talking to about it...the comment about Kenny forgetting his wallet makes me think he at least made money on it but it's not enough to say he won.

[QUOTE=ballinbroken;282349]Well its obviously not the list of the whole cast...[/QUOTE] Glad we're on the same page.

[QUOTE=bombshell917;283886]Leeroy, Mark, Robin, Mandi and Priscilla (the last 4 took some type of test) Yay to Kelly Anne and ehhhhhhhhhhh to Paula, I thought she was retiring or at least taking a break after 9 challenges -.- and finally winning one. She is the new Tonya lol[/QUOTE] I know, guess she feels like she might be on a roll like Derrick and Tyler were when they started winning. Like Iam sorry but I think the fact that Ev was her partner had a lot to do with it, she's great at finals but strategy and individual missions by herself? not so much. But I was very happy that I didnt see another reunion with Paula crying saying she got screwed for the 20th time in a row.

Not sure if i like this couples format, if that is what it is. I really want to see Ayiiia on another challenge. And her hook ups are: Joey, Emilee, and Melinda. I doubt Joey would do one. I heard Emilee wont be on this challenge. So that leaves Melinda. And if they are doing the couples format they'd probably do male-female pairings.

[QUOTE=FishHooks;285162]I am sure if Jeff Dahmer had any friends, the instant they found heads in his freezer they turned on him. Sure an extreme and unfair take by me on your post but I couldn't resist walking through the open door. More seriously, there will never be a finding of "innocent" because they are not facing a criminal trial.[/QUOTE] That example makes no sense to this situation and is not comparable. That would be proof not just judging based on accusations. Their is a difference between your example, and just going off an accusation and bashing the person on your formspring about how they would be terrible boyfriends and cheat when you had said the opposite before. She could just cut ties with him, that's fine, but to act like he is a terrible person when the news has broke for like 3 days. You would think a friend wouldn't jump to conclusions immediately and join the "we hate them they are ****" bandwagon. Now a lot of people already thought they were **** before, so I am not talking about that. If she was on the ruins and did a 180 that quick on her thoughts on Kenny, it would make a lot more sense, because she would probably know the truth. There is still a ton missing in this story/accusation. Couldn't this end up in a criminal trial though?

I wonder why some people think the cast members working out is a sign that they're gonna be on the next challenge. They probably workout regardless. But I understand if they hit the gym more they could be on it, but just because they tweet about working out doesnt mean they're training for this one. Sorry, I've seen that a few times and I just think some people are reading way too much into cast members' tweets.

Isn't it crazy that the people for this challenge are filming RIGHT NOW. They might even be doing the missions RIGHT NOW. Or if its too early in these two days for the people to be doing a mission right now, what if they started off the season like in Cutthroat? They'd be at their location with their teams/partners/etc. right now. I'm just really excited for this challenge though hahah.

[QUOTE=molds13;287723]Well, you do make a good point. If the challenge started any earlier, it could explain why Wes has already popped up.[/QUOTE] Yeah could be but I really have no idea, I think Wes tweeted right when he came back because he tweeted about the plane ride, but it seems like Priscilla stayed for a bit and maybe tweeted later, and how soon after the cast left did Adam come home? I cant remember exactly but it seemed like the next day, some of the cast was even wearing the same clothes as in their pictures when Adam hit Ty.

[QUOTE=TSPKM2;287978]Too bad Dustin didn't hurt his knee earlier maybe they could have brought Nany in as a replacement since apparently gender doesn't matter.[/QUOTE] I just hope he wasn't seriously injured or has health insurance if he was. Knee injuries can be tricky and expensive. I hate to see people go home with an injury whether I like them or not.

[QUOTE=cmillz;288743]Does anybody know when this challenge is expected to air? RWSD is already on episode 9, so i expect it won't be too long from now. early next year?[/QUOTE] I believe it's been mentioned in this thread that the show should start airing around April '12.

hmmm Trishelle? that makes me doubt that list a little.. but it would be interesting

[QUOTE=Coralfan;283374]Who is rumored to have been asked on this challenge anyways?[/QUOTE] These are some names to be [B]rumored[/B]: Wes, Mark, Nany, Adam (Vegas), Robin, Mandi, Cara Maria, Johnny, Priscilla, Dustin, and Ayiiia.

Whatever the next challenge is going to be I think it is safe to assume that Mark Long and Leroy will be on the Challenge just by taking a closer look at their social networks such as Fb! I have read somewhere that the next challenge is supposedly going to be Old school vs. New school!

[QUOTE=bombshell917;283886]Leroy, Mark, Robin, Mandi and Priscilla (the last 4 took some type of test) Yay to Kelly Anne and ehhhhhhhhhhh to Paula, I thought she was retiring or at least taking a break after 9 challenges -.- and finally winning one. She is the new Tonya lol[/QUOTE] I know!!! I really, really, really hope KellyAnne is on the next challenge!! I miss her! I'm interested in seeing Priscilla too, because she doesn't seem like the athletic type to me...

let's say it is a couples format/hookup format....If CT/Diem were on same challenge or even the same team, it would be very interesting. It appears from what Robin said on her webcast show with Katie, that their are two clear cut sides team CT or team Diem between those two. I am not sure based on how they put it if they have even talked since the duel 2 aftershow. It woudl be interesting how they worked together or if a spark was rekindled or just too awkward. I know CT has a girlfriend, not sure about Diem dating anyone. Has it been 5 years later wasn't that Diem's line that pissed CT off so much on Duel 2? Hopefully like with Adam/CT they can at least get on good terms. I think Johanna/Wes would be a similar one but I think they are on good terms based on twitter interaction. Jenn/Adam would be very awkward/unpleasant but Adam still probably would want to date her haha. Leroy/Naomi would be a good one. They keep bringing back Mandi, not quite sure why. Her interviews don't bring a lot, she doesn't do well on the challenges, but she did get new *****. I guess that's all that matters.

[QUOTE=VCR14;285421]Not sure if you're understanding where Molds' head is at. They will be splitting up the teams in a manner where each "romance" is on opposite teams. [/QUOTE] Yeah, that's my point. The team who gets say Johnny would then benefit in having him AND by the other team having Casey in this example. I'd like it better if they didn't do this to make it more fair.

[QUOTE=VCR14;286189]I don't think Diem has been confirmed as a No either so there's still hope for her. I really don't think KellyAnne is there. She's been updating facebook and twitter and they don't sound like tweets or posts that someone would make if they were monitoring her account.[/QUOTE] Despite what I said yesterday, I'd actually prefer this. I'm not a fan of KellyAnne and would much rather see Diem on this one. Diem > KellyAnne

[QUOTE=RubenJay05;286442]Based on whose been confirmed, a gay couple is a definite. I know people run other people's twitter accounts but Shane, Tyler, Davis, and JD have NOT been in Florida in the past week. Ryan is the only one that has left no trace of his location in the past week. My money is definitely on Ryan but I'm confused about his counterpart. Someone must be running Shane or Davis' twitter account.[/QUOTE] I doubt it's Shane based on what he's been Tweeting, but if I recall, Davis said before Rivals that he wasn't going to do that one either because of a speaking arrangement and that obviously changed/wasn't true so I'd say him.

[QUOTE=RubenJay05;286690]I mean let's be real. Adam didn't get dropped because of his behavior. I mean Jasmine could have answered YES to ALL those questions, lol, and she's still on the show.[B] I think the fact that he lied on it or tested positive for an STI/drug use.[/B] I think its fair to say that when there's footage of you from not too long ago doing all of these actions and then you claim you don't do that is enough for people to think you're a little in denial or a tad bit off, lol.[/QUOTE] You, sir, assert facts not in evidence. It is a slippery slope to libel. ~~~ Just a little education for everyone on the subject: I'd recommend that everyone take great care in stating anything as fact when you can't tell anything from a picture because you don't know its taxonomy. You don't know a single thing about a former cast member's possible drug unless you were present at their use. We may think we've seen him drunk on video from two TV programs, but that's about all we have to go on. Stating something as one's opinion based on something you read is far more defensible in court. If Adam is a public figure, (questionable when one may have been seen by less then 1% of the nation's population), then the burden of proof is higher than for anyone commenting here, but Adam or any other plaintiff must only prove that the information was published, "the plaintiff was directly or indirectly identified, the remarks were defamatory towards the plaintiff's reputation, the published information is false, and that the defendant is at fault." (for simplicity, the last quote is borrowed from Wikipedia.)

[QUOTE=FishHooks;287209]Has there been an official unofficial Moldsy determination of the location or elimination method yet?[/QUOTE] You're asking a lot going straight into the weekend. I wouldn't expect an answer just yet.

[QUOTE=gamer73;288234]I wonder if Dustin/Heather will be replaced since he left due to an injury?[/QUOTE] I doubt it. They are on a tight schedule and I doubt they would have an extra couple on standby since I would think that emergency couple were called up if they existed when Adam and Nany got the boot. Nany would have been an interesting replacement for Dustin though.

If CT lost this challenge, he is the Lebron James on the challenge regular season numbers. CT's great at the team/individual missions. When it's finals time or an elimination round something goes wrong and they choke.

They should only have a Duel 3 if they can get the best competitors, men and women, on there. I don't want to see any Ryans or Tyries - I want to see CT, Ab, Leroy, Alton, Landon, Derrick, Mark, Evan and Zach (he looks like he might be good).

I'm going to take Wes' last tweet about "being over the whole twitter thing" as him saying he's going to be away for a few weeks and not that he wants to delete.

[QUOTE=FishHooks;285162] More seriously, there will never be a finding of "innocent" because they are not facing a criminal trial.[/QUOTE] Even in a criminal trial they would not be found "innocent", they would either be guilty or not guilty, the same verdicts that will be available in a civil case.

[QUOTE=Nightwolf;285424]Yeah, that's my point. The team who gets say Johnny would then benefit in having him AND by the other team having Casey in this example. I'd like it better if they didn't do this to make it more fair.[/QUOTE] Yes but his team would have Mandi and Ryan to make it more fair.

Quite true. Sarah is pitiful in every way. Why do the ones I loathe show up the most often? I am really hoping for KellyAnne on this one.

[QUOTE=LaneV95;286446]Did both the people posting their opinions on their cast forgot to mention Mandi?[/QUOTE] They probably didn't. :sly:

[QUOTE=fabulous788;287216]You're asking a lot going straight into the weekend. I wouldn't expect an answer just yet.[/QUOTE] I wasn't asking for the answer yet, just whether or not it has been determined yet. I understand that even when things are known they are not yet made known to the board.

[QUOTE=GiggidyGoo90;287469]Wow Wes got the boot 3rd, as a matter of fact the 3 male eliminations are all very interesting to me because I want to know who beat Nate, Vinny, and Wes. I wanna know who beat Nate because he seems like a strong guy and he's obviously very smart, but I think he lost in a physical elimination. [B]I bet Vinny lost in a puzzle elimination or an endurance type elimination. [/B]As for Wes it could be anything he's good at all types of eliminations but he can be in any kind of elimination round depending on his opponent.[/QUOTE] Or, you know, rolling a die into a square.

[QUOTE=molds13;287728]The cast left sometime around the 4th, and Adam was on Twitter on the 7th. I believe Mike left for Costa Rica on the 6th, which would mean the fight between Adam and Ty happened on the 5th.[/QUOTE] Yeah it seems as though they did the 1st challenge as soon as they arrived, when did Anessa come home last time? Lol sorry for all the questions. But if they did start the same way as last time, then maybe some people have been eliminated that we dont know of.