The Challenge: Battle of the Exes - Spoiler Discussion

[url=http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=12009][img]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/44414eb164efa6a53.jpg[/img][/url] Long shot but this, she's been working out with paula quite a bit, and Wes is rumored as well makes her somewhat likely.

[QUOTE=Nightwolf;286280]Ty and Paula?[/QUOTE] That would be a big stretch, they hooked up in a game of truth or dare, I dont see them doing that but who really knows right now, its possible. [QUOTE=Nightwolf;286282]People who have been together in the past or are still together is the theme. Essentially hook ups, couples, and exes. We don't know the format yet, but the logical way to do it would be pairs.[/QUOTE] If its pairs than it would be 3 out of the past 4 seasons, I not convinced that is the way they are going. They could do Couples vs Exes or some other type of team format if they cant get enough couples, far easier to find exes. Also might just need to have been an ex or in a relationship to get on the show, not neccesarily teamed up with them, It could be an individual challenge where you are in some way tied to your ex or who ever you are in a relationship with.

[QUOTE=gamer73;287271] [url=http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=12190][img]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/18194ebee80b6013a.jpg[/img][/url] [/QUOTE] I know you guys love Guin GUin but who the heck went to the extreme of making a twitter account for him? It's cute though.

Not really surprised Wes went home early. He isn't nearly the competitor that he was on FM1 and The Duel 1.

[QUOTE=josh8793;288837]Fresh Meat?[/QUOTE] Well yes, but if you see The Controller, the vet taught the noob about the game but couldn't contribute.

I really think there is no male/male team. Also there are 5 teams left, I expect there to be 1 more elimination, maybe 2 then the finals. I see Ty & Emily being 1 of the teams; the other team will probaly be Johnny & Camila or CT & Diem. I now believe Johnny, Mark and Abe are working together.

[QUOTE=bombshell917;283978]I have a feeling the next challenge is going to have some kind of couples, hookups or exes format. I was looking at the speculated cast on another website and all of them have dated or hooked up with someone else in the same cast. I think that would cause drama but I hope it's not a pairs challenge since Rivals just aired -.- we need an individual or team challenge for season 22[/QUOTE] Some of the people on the list make me think that too...but what about Johnny? The only person he's messed around with (on camera) is Casey....and if that's who he gets I pity him.

[url=http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=11974][img]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/18194ead71e86c18a.jpg[/img][/url] It does sound like Nany dropped out.

Katie Doyle and Trishelle? They seem pretty quite and we know both have requested to be on this season.

[QUOTE=yankeegurl93;285769][/quote] hmmm so Mike/Paula instead of Dunbar? Also I think it will be a team challenge rather than pairs (or at least I hope it will be).

[QUOTE=jeckenrode09;286026]First post, first time signing up for this thing but I check it out every now and then... but Ty Ruff will be on the newest season... Played football with him in college[/QUOTE] Welcome to Vevmo! :) I hope you're right about Ty - because that would more than likely mean one of my favorites, Emily, will be also taking part. Keep an eye out for clues on their Twitters, because we usually need more to go by before we can "confirm" them. Doesn't seem like Ty is that active anyway (hasn't posted since end of Sept) while Emily is usually very active. She posted one thing yesterday (a picture of a coffee...which she could have purchased at the airport?) Who knows.

[QUOTE=Ch@llengeFan;286283]That would be a big stretch, they hooked up in a game of truth or dare, I dont see them doing that but who really knows right now, its possible. If its pairs than it would be 3 out of the past 4 seasons, I not convinced that is the way they are going. They could do Couples vs Exes or some other type of team format if they cant get enough couples, far easier to find exes. Also might just need to have been an ex or in a relationship to get on the show, not neccesarily teamed up with them, [B]It could be an individual challenge where you are in some way tied to your ex or who ever you are in a relationship with[/B].[/QUOTE] Right...similar to the Duel where you have "partner" but are eliminated on an individual basis. I can see something like that happening, especially if there are only 13 pairs?

lol @ Sauron, but I'm super stoked to see Abe, Mark, Rachel and CT confirmed on this cast. I can't wait for the show. I'll have to stop reading spoiler threads pretty soon. I accidently saw the winner of Rivals before it finished. :(

[QUOTE=BillyBear231;287305]Just as speculation... Since i have still not heard anything from Sarah, and yet we have from both Nate and Priscilla, maybe Vinny hit someone. He has been known to get very fired up over stupid things...[/QUOTE] Just because Vinny is home and Sarah is not, it doesn't really mean anything. I think it's been a few times that this won't be a pairs challenge. I think it's just a coincidence that Nate and Priscilla are both home, but I could be wrong. On a related note, good to know that Vinny is still terrible at these things.

I think I'm rooting for Abram and Cara and then Ty and Emily on this one. Every other team has someone I like (Mark, Johnny, and Diem) with someone I'm not really a fan of (Robin, Camila, and CT). While I like Emily more than Cara, I go back and forth on Ty...sometimes I find him hilarious and the rest of the time he's a ****. Also...I'm glad Dunbar's gone even though it meant Paula had to go too.

[QUOTE=ClubSandwich;289353]Huh? That guy has been in more finals than most people have done challenges.[/QUOTE] That's one ...of five. I'm sure you knew what she meant.

[QUOTE=jesses_girl;289607]Rivals had a final 6, only 4 teams actually finished the final though. And i think people underrate Johnny as an actual physical competitor. I think on Cutthroat and Rivals, he proved himself to be a good player on the field as well as in the house.[/QUOTE] You are right. I was thinking about FM2.

[QUOTE=JL81790;290122]Derrick said on his most recent podcast with Ruthie, Zach, and the blonde girl that he's been hearing what's been happening on the challenge right now and that it's nuts. Falls in line with what TJ said about how crazy everyone's going. Hopefully this bodes well for a another renewal.[/QUOTE] This makes me excited but at the same time I'm thinking what can these people do that I haven't seen before? Is Wes going to pour more liquids on people is Johnny going to call some one a dumb *****, I bet CT and Diem are having fun though? I hope its game drama and not petty crap like the Theresa/Camilla sweat pants feud. I wana see some serious backstabbing lol but not to Paula I'm sick of seeing her whiny *** cry at every reunion. And Derrick should really keep his mouth shut, but knowing mtv it isnt a big deal that spoilers are being leaked.

[QUOTE=bombshell917;283978][B]I have a feeling the next challenge is going to have some kind of couples, hookups or exes format. I was looking at the speculated cast on another website and all of them have dated or hooked up with someone else in the same cast.[/B] I think that would cause drama but I hope it's not a pairs challenge since Rivals just aired -.- we need an individual or team challenge for season 22[/QUOTE] Not if Sarah is gonna be on it. And who did Johnny hook up with on camera? I think Abram has something scheduled during the time they're supposed to be filming, so that would leave Cara Maria without a mate as well.

[QUOTE=TheCollegeD;285515] Long shot but this, she's been working out with paula quite a bit, and Wes is rumored as well makes her somewhat likely.[/QUOTE] I doubt it. Johanna's been distancing herself from being associated with RW since The Ruins.

[QUOTE=DomDom7;286020]Well the last three pairs are likely, but not certain. None of them were confirmed to be on their way to Miami, the likely takeoff destination for the cast. All the other pairs had at least one member headed to Miami. Looks like the only "for sure"s would be those I underlined.[/QUOTE] Doesn't Rachel live in Miami, though? I think she does, so if true, she would not have been en route to Miami unless she had been in another city/state at the time. So it would not be confirmed that way. She could have shown up at the airport in Miami, though.

[QUOTE=townie;289273]CT & Diem are the only pair left that doesn't have a question mark among them as far as one member of the team having stamina issues. Robin and Camila definitely don't strike me as having the gas necessary to hold it together for the duration of these marathon finals they've been implementing in recent challenges and we've already seen Ty and Abe bomb here not too long ago as well. Mark's the only guy there that could cut CT's pace in a final and Diem is big into long distance running and should be able to outrun all of the other girls there if it came down to it.[/QUOTE] Do you think Diem could outdo Cara Maria in a final? I only say this because while I have heard that Diem is good at long distance running, finals are not just long distance running and Diem's last final she has completed was the Gauntlet 3. Cara on the other hand, has killed it in the toughest finals of all challenges. Maybe Cara is the female to beat in this final challenge.

[QUOTE=JL81790;289810]How is Johnny a mixed bag? The guy never DQs and usually performs near the top in any given challenge and beat ALTON for two life-shields on I3. The only eliminations he's lost are I Can to Tyler (the dumbest elimination ever), Sliders to Evan (a crapshoot) and the backpacking to CT who is obviously a better competitor than Johnny is and he SHOULD have lost that (though maybe not that badly). Is he the best? Not by a long shot...but while he isn't amazing at any one thing he's consistently good at almost everything. I change my mind...I want Johnny to win again and to hear how he's not good despite being tied for most wins.[/QUOTE] This a million times over. John is a very well rounded competitor both physically and mentally, surprised he outlasted Abram but not at all surprised he's still there.

[QUOTE=townie;300340] Johnny also doesn't strike me as the kind of guy to split money like that. [/QUOTE] Didn't Johnny, along with Derrick and Kenny, split some of their winnings from the Island with Paula? I could see Mark throwing the elimination round but I could also see him losing straight up.

[QUOTE=gamer73;285004] It does sound like Nany dropped out.[/QUOTE] Which probably confirms that it is based on past hookups on these shows. We still aren't sure if they will be paired together or put onto opposite teams though.

I hope its Wes and Kelly Anne and not Wes and Mandi, Mandi is boring and Wes' last tweet sounds like he's not too fond of kelly Anne lol. And KA said she will be in LA on Halloween and Tyler is going to be in LA too for some reason.

[QUOTE=ILoveRW;285516]Katie Doyle and Trishelle? They seem pretty quite and we know both have requested to be on this season.[/QUOTE] As stated in the first post... [QUOTE=molds13;281881]We also have reason to believe that, from social networking, these people will most likely [B]NOT[/B] be on the next Challenge: [B]Davis[/B] (RW: Denver)– stated in an interview that he received a call but said no [B]Dan[/B] (RR: Viewer's Revenge) - stated in a podcast he had not received a call for the next challenge [B]Shavonda[/B] (RW: Philadelphia) - stated in YouTube she is pregnant [I][B][B]Katie[/B] (RR: The Quest) - is busy with work and school[/B][/I] [B]Susie[/B] (RR: Australia) - is pregnant [B]Tonya[/B] (RW: Chicago) - current legal issues [B]Adam[/B] (RW: Paris) - tweet about "RW fam" taking psych tests...no mention of himself [B]Jenn[/B] (RW: Denver) - stated at reunion she was "retiring"[/QUOTE]

This is probably a long shot but this is what I imagined with the format. The challenge would start off like Cutthroat but instead the race or challenge is in pairs according to your parter/ex/past hookup/etc. The winning pair are team captains who alternate in picking someone. If a captain picks Leroy then the other team gets Naomi and so on. The alternating process will be organized so that each team has an equal number of males and females. After that, the 2 teams will compete for cash money only, nothing to do with eliminations. Then each team would have to vote in somebody from the other team to compete in the elimination. It could be male eliminations and female eliminations but with LGBT couples I find it unlikely. It would just be like old school Gauntlet where there would be a set of same sex eliminations and diff sex eliminations, in other words, males can go up against females if that's what it comes down to. Here's the twist, if Naomi goes home, Leroy goes home, so the voting process will be very strategic while also causing a lot of drama. The reason why LGBT couples wouldn't work in same sex eliminations all the time would be because they are the only pairs who could potentially go up against eachother. With the idea of either same sex or diff sex eliminations, everyone has that possibility. If 2 competitors in the same pair do get picked in the same elimination, then the pair who got voted in would then pick people from each team to take their spots without picking 2 challengers from a single pair, so each team would have to try and avoid that with all costs. So here's the drama point, if you want an easy win in someone like Heather on the other team, then you jeopardize losing Dustin, who could potentially be a strength on the team. This could also make Dustin angry in telling him that his team would risk losing him just to take out Heather. Also, let's say that Robin was pulling her team down in terms of challenges. The only way to get rid of her would be if the other team picks her to go into an elimination and risk Mark, or if Robin's team picks Mark who would be hard to eliminate. That's what I think would create a lot of drama and keep the concept of exes or relationships together in that, just like rivals, you either make it to the end with your partner or go home with your partner. And given that there are LGBT couples and also a lot of recent challenges with partner-related teams, I think it's going to be 2 teams duking it out. This concept would also help balance the teams in terms of numbers because each team would lose 1 player every elimination, due to the past team challenge completely failing because one team overpowered the other by outnumbering them, Ruins and Gauntlet 3.

[QUOTE=CzarEric;286525]I believe what she is referring to is that certain postings are saying "I wish so-and-so was on this challenge" or "I bet you anything __________'s gonna be there!" And it throws everything off. Molds is very careful in what she posts and makes sure that she has proof and evidence before posting such claims. I mean, just back during Rivals, it took her FOREVER to reveal that Robin was the mystery female we were all waiting to find. But that was because there was no visible proof or evidence when the cast first departed. Also, Molds is very kind to the cast and does not like to put them in harm's way (i.e. the wrath of BMP). If someone has screenshots or other ways to support his or her claim(s), he or she is more than welcome to PM Molds (I think >_>) with that information. Otherwise, it gets really confusing. Take, for instance, the several posts that say "Ty is 100% there." Now, we don't have confirmation that he is actually there, but now that it's been posted, I'm sure several people are going to be spreading that around the thread. In the end, Molds is doing us a HUGE favor (besides the obvious one of telling us who's on the challenge) by setting up these guidelines. In the end, it's for our own benefit (in addition to her sanity).[/QUOTE] Well said Molds, well said.

[QUOTE=GiggidyGoo90;287025]So either 1 or 2 things has happened so far on this challenge. #1 They're probably filming in the Dominican Republic and #2 Nate was the 1st to go?[/QUOTE] 3. Or the challenge is in Haiti and he escaped across the border, or 4. The cell tower with which he connected is across the border, since the Dominican Republic has a substantially better infrastructure than does Haiti. The first rule of military intelligence (after not taking one's self too seriously) is to be patient before drawing conclusions before the facts are clear. Patience... waiting for additional clues may lead you to the correctness of one or both of your conclusions.

I wonder if when Dustin & Heather got sent home, did they still have a elimination that day and Leroy & Naomi go home the same episode, or will it be a day off for elimination since Dustin went home.

[QUOTE=TheKorean;289599]Perhaps CT & Ty are working together. LOL How awesome would it be if Ty came on this season beasting like Alton or something?[/QUOTE] Emily was on Johnny's team on her 1st challenge and if I'm not mistaken, Ty was as well. I bet they're aligned with him.

[QUOTE=Nightwolf;290119]Can I just add in a bit of late speculation? I believe that Paula's probably the reason her and Dunbar went in, is probably the reason why they lost, and she probably complained about how nothing's her fault and is going to do so again on the reunion while claiming absolutely no responsibility for her own actions. Again.[/QUOTE] Idk Dunbar is pretty rude and annoying and doesnt appear to be well liked by a lot of people on the challenges. Paula plays a great social game, if they went in its either because of Dunbar or because of who she is aligned with. Dunbar also isnt a great athlete so probably not a great partner to have for Paula. Based on how Paula has been acting she didnt seem to enjoy herself on this challenge.

Molds when are they leaving to film the next challenge?

[QUOTE=jesses_girl;283981]Not if Sarah is gonna be on it. And who did Johnny hook up with on camera? I think Abram has something scheduled during the time they're supposed to be filming, so that would leave Cara Maria without a mate as well.[/QUOTE] Sarah and Vinny. Molds wrote that there was going to be maybe more than one person from Road Rules, and I think Abram would be one of the fews that would do another one. If you look at the speulated cast it does make sense: Nany/Adam Robin/Mark Wes/Mandi or Kelly Anne? Maybe if it was a couples, hook up or exes challenge we can expect based on the speculated cast: Leroy/Naomi? Dustin/Heather? Sarah/Vinny? Johnny/Casey? Paula/ Derek McCray (RR: Viewers Revenge), Dunbar or Mike Mike? Priscilla/Nate? (BMP stretched rivalries on Rivals so if they do one like this, I would expect them to do the same stretch for hook ups? Or maybe she hooked up with one of the roomies since we haven't seen the entire San Diego season.) I like the idea since it would cause drama, but I don't think elimination rounds would be amazing especially the physical ones. It would be better to see guy/guy vs guy/guy go at it than girl/guy vs girl/guy. Plus if that's case some of the FMII pairs are going to repeat? If they casted CT, it would exciting to see Laurel/CT. Btw this is pure SPECULATION. We will find out in "nine days", based on the cast from this season if this format would make sense.

[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;285006]Which probably confirms that it is based on past hookups on these shows. We still aren't sure if they will be paired together or put onto opposite teams though.[/QUOTE] Not really. All it confirms is that Adam is mad with BMP and MTV.... He could be mad at Nany, Nany could also be mad at BMP and MTV. We really don't know anything.

so the eliminations can go for example Mark & Robin vs Leroy & Naomi, but have Robin vs Naomi in a timed elimination and lets say Naomi wins with a 5min time, and then when Mark and Leroy go head to head in the same elimination Mark has 5 mins to beat Leroy or else he and Robin are eliminated. That actually sounds pretty intersting in my opinion.

[QUOTE=Buck05;286028]Welcome to Vevmo! :) I hope you're right about Ty - because that would more than likely mean one of my favorites, Emily, will be also taking part. Keep an eye out for clues on their Twitters, because we usually need more to go by before we can "confirm" them. Doesn't seem like Ty is that active anyway (hasn't posted since end of Sept) while Emily is usually very active. She posted one thing yesterday (a picture of a coffee...which she could have purchased at the airport?) Who knows.[/QUOTE] I am 100% sure about Ty-- spoke to him personally... so I guess that means the girl Emily too.. saw Zach from the new season at a bar last night so he is out..

[QUOTE=TSPKM2;286766]I think Diem has a good shot at winning this one if it is teams, her, CT and Robin were all screwed out of a win on Gauntlet 3.[/QUOTE] They weren't screwed out of a win on Gauntlet 3. They lost it because of their stupidity when they voted Johnny into the Gauntlet over Eric.

[QUOTE=jones10389;288013]The "Alliance" could be keeping Tyrie to save him to go up vs CT. Since Tyrie is prob size wise there best chance [B]and Jasmine matches up good with Diem.[/B]I think that's why Tyrie is still there.Maybe they made a deal with him if he takes out CT they will let him cost to the Finals with Mark&Robin and Johnny&Camila and Dunbar&Paula. Yes i think 4 teams will make the finals 1 team gets nothing.[/QUOTE] lol yeah right

[QUOTE=TSPKM2;289339]I feel like they're joking.[/QUOTE] Could be, but perhaps Aneesa was on Team Abram/Cara Maria? Certainly Paula probably wasn't. We'll know in the Spring. Just for everyone's amusement, here is Rule #8 from SurvivorSucks.com. It often feels needed here... [QUOTE] 8. Off-topic and emotionally-based replies will be removed. This refers mainly to comments such as "I hope this spoiler is true" or "Edna <3 <3 <3." If you are posting to support or refute a spoiler or opinion, you MUST back up your views with actual evidence or even-handed reasoning (exception: if you're refuting a spoiler by attacking the messenger, being a noob IS an acceptable basis for skepticism). If your argument is built on nothing more than the words "hope", "wish", or some sort of emoticon, it's going to be edited, even if you tack something on at the end of an otherwise innocuous reply. Remember, just because you think something doesn't mean you must, or are entitled to, post it. This rule is in effect to [B]rein in a growing culture of fantardism[/B] that has taken over most of the forums here. It is a special nuisance in Spoilers because it distracts from and neuters meaningful discussion and analysis, which is how spoiling is supposed to be done. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RubenJay05;283443]Katie said she isn't done. She just wasn't able to do Rivals cause her boss said no since she was new to the job. I'm sure if they ask her to be on the next one, she'll go. Also, Veronica did tweet about how they called her for the next challenge but she said she wouldn't do another one. Surprisingly, Rachel (RR Campus Crawl) said on the latest podcast that she wasn't done. She said she would do another one but she didn't want to do another Duel since she already won that. Derrick and Tyler also said they weren't done either. David (RR Viewer's Revenge) wants to do one and so do Trishelle and Adam L. but they haven't tweeted about getting calls or taking any tests.[/QUOTE] Katie is in school this semester, so I doubt she is going to be on season 22.

If Priscilla is rumored to be on the challenge, then who would her counterpart be? Also, Wes has two choices: Mandi or Kelly Anne. If its Mandi, then Kelly Anne's HAS to be Cohutta. If his counterpart is Kelly Anne, then Mandi's HAS to be CT. Im hoping for CT. CT >>>>> Cohutta. I really think CT helped bring in a lot of viewers last season, he was the most talked about cast member on multiple boards, including mtv.com.

[QUOTE=molds13;285773]Or Nany/Mike... Didn't that entire cast make out with each other?[/QUOTE] Oh I didn't realize, I actually didn't watch their season lol. But it wouldn't surprise me haha. I haven't watched since Cancun, but now I'm watching SD since I live here; I feel somewhat obliged. Speaking of which, I'm glad it seems they will have some representation via Nate/Priscilla!!