The Challenge: Spies, Lies and Allies - Ratings

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These are the damn problems IMO:

Time Slot with Big Brother 

International people that no one knows about 

The same vets over and over again 

Cringey themes like "gems have been stolen"

MTV itself and what comes on before and after The Challenge airs ( Ridiclousness ) 

Not casting ppl who fans are really wanting to see and follow from their original shows 

I swear I watched it with my sister and she was astonished to see that most of the vet cast was from the previous season she was looking for some vets she hadn't seen in awhile

I feel like those "vets we haven't seen in a while" aren't ever coming back.  We'll never get another random Veronica Brad or Shane.  Maybe we'll get a Laurel or John returns but that's about it.  Kam will obviously likely be back but nothing interesting.

when I mean in awhile I mean like the regulars or just notables from the past six or seven seasons maybe eight -- we already know Veronica & the gang ain't returning and if they are it won't be here -- someone like Ashley, Cory, Josh, KC & Kyle no matter how fan fave they are shouldn't be on consecutively as they have been and it shows production is scared to give certain people breaks 

The closest thing to a old vet return from time to time we'll get is Laurel Darrell Wes or Bananas 

when I mean in awhile I mean like the regulars or just notables from the past six or seven seasons maybe eight -- we already know Veronica & the gang ain't returning and if they are it won't be here -- someone like Ashley, Cory, Josh, KC & Kyle no matter how fan fave they are shouldn't be on consecutively as they have been and it shows production is scared to give certain people breaks 

We want the same thing but I don't think it's about being "scared" to give people breaks as opposed to they want to the same cast over and over again and have cut out most other vets.  See Kyle.  They like Kyle--he gives them what they ask for so they cast him because it works best for them.  If I wanted this to me my life I wouldn't take a season off either--if you do you might be done.

624k yikes.... Double agents which was not that long ago was always doing close to a million consistently. 

Double Agents was during more lockdown and colder weather. it's warmer out and theres less lockdown. its also still sunlight at 8pm this time of year which plays a big factor in ratings. they should shift it to 9pm or 10pm.

 

when I mean in awhile I mean like the regulars or just notables from the past six or seven seasons maybe eight -- we already know Veronica & the gang ain't returning and if they are it won't be here -- someone like Ashley, Cory, Josh, KC & Kyle no matter how fan fave they are shouldn't be on consecutively as they have been and it shows production is scared to give certain people breaks 

We want the same thing but I don't think it's about being "scared" to give people breaks as opposed to they want to the same cast over and over again and have cut out most other vets.  See Kyle.  They like Kyle--he gives them what they ask for so they cast him because it works best for them.  If I wanted this to me my life I wouldn't take a season off either--if you do you might be done.

exactly but if they like him so much giving him a season break wouldn't hurt cause he'll always be in contention for the next one -- plus you kinda have to decipher who wants this as a career and who doesn't cause that's who you determine to break or not somebody like Kyle live for the show so I don't see him being done if he sat one out along with Josh who has nothing going on. 

i think this season is catching the hit of double agents being boring 

when I mean in awhile I mean like the regulars or just notables from the past six or seven seasons maybe eight -- we already know Veronica & the gang ain't returning and if they are it won't be here -- someone like Ashley, Cory, Josh, KC & Kyle no matter how fan fave they are shouldn't be on consecutively as they have been and it shows production is scared to give certain people breaks 

We want the same thing but I don't think it's about being "scared" to give people breaks as opposed to they want to the same cast over and over again and have cut out most other vets.  See Kyle.  They like Kyle--he gives them what they ask for so they cast him because it works best for them.  If I wanted this to me my life I wouldn't take a season off either--if you do you might be done.

exactly but if they like him so much giving him a season break wouldn't hurt cause he'll always be in contention for the next one -- plus you kinda have to decipher who wants this as a career and who doesn't cause that's who you determine to break or not somebody like Kyle live for the show so I don't see him being done if he sat one out along with Josh who has nothing going on. 

The risk for Kyle (or maybe Josh) is if they decline a season maybe production realizes they aren't needed.  Like Kam can take a season off and she's probably still a priority.  Kyle takes a season off maybe they find a different Brit to play that role espeically.  If I Kyle and I love this then I'm saying yes every time.  JMO

i think this season is catching the hit of double agents being boring 

That excuse only works for episode 1 and it would have increase or maintain the same number for episode 2. This is a combination of casting, summer, theme and a network problem they are clearly doing something wrong all their shows are down.

I think it will go up as the season continues.

Production need to tell some of these ppl to take a break for a good 3-4 seasons then if they're well liked people will be exicted to see them again.  

Example: Nany & Wes last season was Rivals 3 and they took 4 seasons off and they was able to hype of a return and get people excited again 

But yes also maybe Skye and MTV should listen to all the viewers of all kinds when we say we dont think Josh is good TV and are tired of him after Double Agents and then they cast him and heavily feature him in the trailer...

Feeling vindicated for saying multiple times during the spoiler season that there was no need to bring in so many rookies, and that they shouldn't pretend people like Hunter and Sylvia don't exist.

I would simply stop watching the show if Kam and Josh weren't on it. 

The biggest problem for me is they don't do a good job at rotating the vets. Kc has no business being on for 3 consecutive seasons. Someone like a Bayleigh has that right.

Did casuals hate Double Agents ? I feel like towards the end I saw more of a positive response to the season 

Like from the double elimination episode CT and Darrell won to the finale episode all I saw were good comments about the season 

This season so far through 2 episodes is a huge improvement over total madness and double agents. It reminds me of WOTW2. Good season but the ratings were not as good as WOTW1. Though I do agree with Pink the ratings will go up as the season goes on once people warm up to some internationals that they like. Plus they were only .2 of a percentage point off for being the number 2 show on cable for the night. The news does not usually have such high demo numbers. 

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These plummeting ratings have me tickled.

A lot of people here who don't understand ratings in this thread. They aren't down because ________ isn't on this season.

They are down because they quit casting Nicole Bass.

They are down because they quit casting Nicole Bass.

They are down because they quit casting Nicole Bass.

is that the one from wow2? 

 

They are down because they quit casting Nicole Bass.

is that the one from wow2? 

Yup, production just brought her on to play the role of Goergia's friend because you know how much they loved Goergia at the time. The Goergia project failed so then they tried replacing her with Gabby, that didn't work out either and now they're trying to see if Priscilla can replace Goergia.... just my theory.

Big brother is also getting lower ratings

Big Brother has also been trash for the past several seasons. It's no shock that the ratings are dropping. Why would anyone tune in after watching 21 and 22?

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