Gamer don't know Pinky don't know the winner probably don't even know if this is coming out
Its coming out they started working behind the scene with promo stuff a few weeks ago or a month back. But I have heard mix stuff about this being a paramount exclusive or airing on mtv like all stars shore 2 did
thats amazing if they are happy enough with how the season went they might put it on mtv
That's not the reasoning why they have been debating to put it on mtv or not lmao
Gamer don't know Pinky don't know the winner probably don't even know if this is coming out
Its coming out they started working behind the scene with promo stuff a few weeks ago or a month back. But I have heard mix stuff about this being a paramount exclusive or airing on mtv like all stars shore 2 did
thats amazing if they are happy enough with how the season went they might put it on mtv
That's not the reasoning why they have been debating to put it on mtv or not lmao
Nah this needs to be on paramount. If we are still getting 45 minutes episodes, then I need to hear them uncensored.
Getting on MTV will literally save All Stars. They will pull better ratings than 39. Plus we might get 90 minute episodes!
PLEASE PUT THIS ON MTV.
and when it doesn't pull more ratings still gets canceled AND you don't get uncensored episodes then what?
They will find another excuse and reason to have a bunch of complains.
I'm sorry but you two are being completely illogical. They burned two episodes of 39 off in a week to rush to the Champions coming in and the ratings improved significantly.
You have Laurel, Cara, Rachel, Leroy, Kam, Tina, Veronica, and Tony on this thing. They actually have fans and most haven't been on in 3+ years. I'm fully confident on MTV that All Star 4 would pull between 650-750k viewers.
This contrarian "All Stars is basically an underwhelming flop that can't get viewers" is so bizarre to me.
All Stars is a resounding success. It has completely revitalized The Challenge and brought back a friendly and fun nostalgia that hasn't existed on the main show in 10+ years.
If it's not doing well on Paramount+, that's the streamers' fault. This will pull 20-40% more viewers than 39 if put on MTV. I'd put 10 grand on it.
if they give all stars 4 the same time slot and similar promotion, the ratings wil be better than the last 5+ seasons. same if they had done it for all stars 1 or 2
Gamer don't know Pinky don't know the winner probably don't even know if this is coming out
Its coming out they started working behind the scene with promo stuff a few weeks ago or a month back. But I have heard mix stuff about this being a paramount exclusive or airing on mtv like all stars shore 2 did
thats amazing if they are happy enough with how the season went they might put it on mtv
That's not the reasoning why they have been debating to put it on mtv or not lmao
This contrarian "All Stars is basically an underwhelming flop that can't get viewers" is so bizarre to me.
All Stars is a resounding success. It has completely revitalized The Challenge and brought back a friendly and fun nostalgia that hasn't existed on the main show in 10+ years.
If it's not doing well on Paramount+, that's the streamers' fault. This will pull 20-40% more viewers than 39 if put on MTV. I'd put 10 grand on it.
The show if nothing else engages longtime fans. And while its not perfect, we at least see faces we havent seen in a while. And its winning awards where the main show isnt.
The show if nothing else engages longtime fans. And while its not perfect, we at least see faces we havent seen in a while. And its winning awards where the main show isnt.
Exactly, it keeps the 40+ crowd engaged who are turned off with the drunken fake fights and twitter squabbles of the main show.
All Stars brings a completely different energy.
I'm 95% convinced All Stars 4 has been delayed because the first four episodes with Ayanna are probably an absolute trainwreck that is nearly impossible to edit around. It sounds like she came in more unstable than usual and verbally accosted a lot of people for over a week.
This contrarian "All Stars is basically an underwhelming flop that can't get viewers" is so bizarre to me.
All Stars is a resounding success. It has completely revitalized The Challenge and brought back a friendly and fun nostalgia that hasn't existed on the main show in 10+ years.
If it's not doing well on Paramount+, that's the streamers' fault. This will pull 20-40% more viewers than 39 if put on MTV. I'd put 10 grand on it.
don't gamble ever. actually stay away from Vegas entirely
This contrarian "All Stars is basically an underwhelming flop that can't get viewers" is so bizarre to me.
All Stars is a resounding success. It has completely revitalized The Challenge and brought back a friendly and fun nostalgia that hasn't existed on the main show in 10+ years.
If it's not doing well on Paramount+, that's the streamers' fault. This will pull 20-40% more viewers than 39 if put on MTV. I'd put 10 grand on it.
The show if nothing else engages longtime fans. And while its not perfect, we at least see faces we havent seen in a while. And its winning awards where the main show isnt.
The reality tv awards thingy? Well, the ppl behind those are Mark's longtime friends
The show if nothing else engages longtime fans. And while its not perfect, we at least see faces we havent seen in a while. And its winning awards where the main show isnt.
Exactly, it keeps the 40+ crowd engaged who are turned off with the drunken fake fights and twitter squabbles of the main show.
All Stars brings a completely different energy.
I'm 95% convinced All Stars 4 has been delayed because the first four episodes with Ayanna are probably an absolute trainwreck that is nearly impossible to edit around. It sounds like she came in more unstable than usual and verbally accosted a lot of people for over a week.
Thats not even close to the reason why they delayed it. I know the reason but I am not allowed to write it publicly.
The show if nothing else engages longtime fans. And while its not perfect, we at least see faces we havent seen in a while. And its winning awards where the main show isnt.
Exactly, it keeps the 40+ crowd engaged who are turned off with the drunken fake fights and twitter squabbles of the main show.
All Stars brings a completely different energy.
I'm 95% convinced All Stars 4 has been delayed because the first four episodes with Ayanna are probably an absolute trainwreck that is nearly impossible to edit around. It sounds like she came in more unstable than usual and verbally accosted a lot of people for over a week.
Thats not even close to the reason why they delayed it. I know the reason but I am not allowed to write it publicly.
It's probably strictly an analytics costing decision because Paramount+ has no content and thus no subscribers and they don't have to pay Laurel her 500k until it airs lol.
The same boneheads in charge were gonna make USA2 a Paramount+ streaming exclusive when the show did completely respectable ratings-wise at that 10pm death slot.
The Challenge has a very solid, loyal fanbase. They watch the spinoffs and LOVE All Stars. It will get solid ratings especially if they don't air it at the same time as Survivor.
I kind agree. I think I prefer this on Paraflop as well.
It will probably die when Paramount+ merges with HBO Max. WB suck, they are content annihilators. If it gets back on MTV first, then it could justify its existence with better or equal ratings to the flagship.
It could then aired uncensored on one of those streaming services like USA1 and USA2 did, if the people in charge were at all competent with the MTV product.
We may get another 3 or 4 seasons of the flagship and All Stars, but we all know this franchise ends with a neutered CBS summer 10pm show filled with lame Big Brother alums and the worst Survivor alums like Seabass.
Getting on MTV will literally save All Stars. They will pull better ratings than 39. Plus we might get 90 minute episodes!
PLEASE PUT THIS ON MTV.
and when it doesn't pull more ratings still gets canceled AND you don't get uncensored episodes then what?
That's not the reasoning why they have been debating to put it on mtv or not lmao
They will find another excuse and reason to have a bunch of complains.
What's the reason boo
I'm sorry but you two are being completely illogical. They burned two episodes of 39 off in a week to rush to the Champions coming in and the ratings improved significantly.
You have Laurel, Cara, Rachel, Leroy, Kam, Tina, Veronica, and Tony on this thing. They actually have fans and most haven't been on in 3+ years. I'm fully confident on MTV that All Star 4 would pull between 650-750k viewers.
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This contrarian "All Stars is basically an underwhelming flop that can't get viewers" is so bizarre to me.
All Stars is a resounding success. It has completely revitalized The Challenge and brought back a friendly and fun nostalgia that hasn't existed on the main show in 10+ years.
If it's not doing well on Paramount+, that's the streamers' fault. This will pull 20-40% more viewers than 39 if put on MTV. I'd put 10 grand on it.
if they give all stars 4 the same time slot and similar promotion, the ratings wil be better than the last 5+ seasons. same if they had done it for all stars 1 or 2
i guess they just ran out of content then
Thank you Pink for the update. I figured they were working on promo stuff with Tina, Derek, and Laurel all hinting at it.
The show if nothing else engages longtime fans. And while its not perfect, we at least see faces we havent seen in a while. And its winning awards where the main show isnt.
Exactly, it keeps the 40+ crowd engaged who are turned off with the drunken fake fights and twitter squabbles of the main show.
All Stars brings a completely different energy.
I'm 95% convinced All Stars 4 has been delayed because the first four episodes with Ayanna are probably an absolute trainwreck that is nearly impossible to edit around. It sounds like she came in more unstable than usual and verbally accosted a lot of people for over a week.
don't gamble ever. actually stay away from Vegas entirely
They should upload the entire season on PorńHub.
The reality tv awards thingy? Well, the ppl behind those are Mark's longtime friends
Thats not even close to the reason why they delayed it. I know the reason but I am not allowed to write it publicly.
So are we getting a trailer before 2024 lol
It's probably strictly an analytics costing decision because Paramount+ has no content and thus no subscribers and they don't have to pay Laurel her 500k until it airs lol.
The same boneheads in charge were gonna make USA2 a Paramount+ streaming exclusive when the show did completely respectable ratings-wise at that 10pm death slot.
The Challenge has a very solid, loyal fanbase. They watch the spinoffs and LOVE All Stars. It will get solid ratings especially if they don't air it at the same time as Survivor.
I'd say a teaser not a full trailer.
someone probably pulled an omarosa and threatened a lawsuit
I'd subscribe...
I wonder if they filmed promo when Cara Maria was in NYC and they were doing promo for 39...
IIRC Laurel was hanging out with them too but she wasn't in any of the 39 promo... maybe they also filmed stuff for AS4?
Absolutely not. Idc about ratings. Paramount provides better editing and uncensored content. Mtv sucks.
I kind agree. I think I prefer this on Paraflop as well.
Yeah, I was confused by that too because Laurel was there before that night. So I feel like she was filming.
But, then again doesn't she live in NYC full time again?
This has to be the longest time between filming and airing right? Or any of the older seasons before free agents had a year or more in between?
no this is the longest. which is crazy to think when they also used to film rw/rr inbetween challenges.
They really said we will get to it when we get to it.
It will probably die when Paramount+ merges with HBO Max. WB suck, they are content annihilators. If it gets back on MTV first, then it could justify its existence with better or equal ratings to the flagship.
It could then aired uncensored on one of those streaming services like USA1 and USA2 did, if the people in charge were at all competent with the MTV product.
We may get another 3 or 4 seasons of the flagship and All Stars, but we all know this franchise ends with a neutered CBS summer 10pm show filled with lame Big Brother alums and the worst Survivor alums like Seabass.
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