The Real World: Portland - Ratings

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[QUOTE=cystic;338888]I don't genuinely understand why anyone comments about people's attractiveness on TV as if it's a make-or-break deal for viewership. I mean do people really tune into the show just to watch beautiful people do mundane things? And people wonder why BMP keeps casting people who are aspiring models. I think Nia said it best on Alexandra's spreecast. People tune into the Kardashian show and don't care about the "stupid ****" they say, as long as people get to [I]look[/I] at them talk on TV. I think people are tuning into the wrong show if they're expecting a soap opera or runway show. The quality of TRW has declined, yes, but not for the reasons people keep complaining about.[/QUOTE] I think with some people it's a stigma of "For a show that usually features attractive people, how the hell did this person get on the show?" especially if their personality is also really lacking. Personally, outside of Avery, I don't find any of these girls attractive in the face and they all have other things as well that I don't find attractive. That doesn't mean I'd be less likely to watch the show, but admittedly, the more attractive ones seem to have everyone's eye on them earlier than the rest.
[QUOTE=wutzrenzi;338886]Like someone said I think folks have checked out, esp. after the last two seasons. The fans and viewers that are left are so inconsistent too. TRW gives you substance or drama-free then it's viewed as boring, they give you entertainment then it's viewed as too much/rip-off/etc.People complain about every little thing. [/QUOTE] Exactly and that's what sucks. The show is either too "trashy" or too "Jersey Shore like" or old fans are upset because they miss the old school RW but old school RW isn't gonna bring in ratings and even if BMP wanted to they couldn't make an old school RW because times are just different so either way MTV and BMP can't win. But in this case, you have a season that was promoted probably more than any other season in recent years, good drama, arguments and fights also mixed with a pretty good cast... I don't get why people aren't watching.
The reason why people could be confused about the new cast member is that they featured her in promos prominently. That hasn't happened in recent seasons when someone gets replaced. Some viewers may be thinking that she is some twist cast member that shows up later for some reason other than someone going home. Who is to say that TRW didn't try to change things up to boost ratings? Or remember when they used to have fans vote one housemate into the show? Not everyone is going to assume it's because someone goes home, especially so early.
[QUOTE=KevinW;338894]Exactly and that's what sucks. The show is either too "trashy" or too "Jersey Shore like" or old fans are upset because they miss the old school RW but old school RW isn't gonna bring in ratings and even if BMP wanted to they couldn't make an old school RW because times are just different so either way MTV and BMP can't win. But in this case, you have a season that was promoted probably more than any other season in recent years, good drama, arguments and fights also mixed with a pretty good cast... I don't get why people aren't watching.[/QUOTE] 1. Because people just don't give two ****s about this show or MTV anymore. 2. The amount of stuff to watch on Wednesday compared to the show is huge. Duck Dynasty had 8.5 million viewers at 10:00, that's basically like going up against the season premiere of Jersey Shore season 3 or 4. There was also the Miami Heat losing for the first time since the beginning of February to see. Hell, the show lost in terms of viewers to SIX IN THE MORNING reruns of Full House. 6 AM!
[QUOTE=KevinW;338894]I don't get why people aren't watching.[/QUOTE] MTV was marketing Portland to its existing MTV audience. People may be impressed by the replays of past RW seasons; but, again, the audience was internal to MTV. Sure, they did some outreach via email to people who had previously registered at MTV.com. Unfortunately for RW, they lost their prior audience for good reasons. That old audience has so many more interesting options now on cable or satellite on Wed at 10 PM, that expecting the "old school" viewers to easily return is unrealistic. For a relatively small cost, MTV could have contracted 30 of their popular RW/RR cast members email all the people with MTV.com accounts. That outreach would have received a much greater positive response.
Not sure if this was said yet, but MTV certainly does NOT need to be showing Ridiculousness 24/7. They were showing it before the premiere, and then right after the premiere instead of showing a repeat, they show True Life: I'm Addicted to Tanning. :frown-new: And all of yesterday, all they showed was Ridiculousness. I don't know about you guys, but I've seen the show, it's just a less funny rip-off of Tosh.0. Maybe instead of having the RW marathon over the weekend (or in addition to) could have shown another marathon of a popular season right before the premiere, maybe LA, Denver, Austin, Vegas 2? Anything would have been better than Ridiculousness. (BTW, I tried to write this last night, but for some reason was not able to)
[QUOTE=arilicious;338903]Not sure if this was said yet, but MTV certainly does NOT need to be showing Ridiculousness 24/7. They were showing it before the premiere, and then right after the premiere instead of showing a repeat, they show True Life: I'm Addicted to Tanning. :frown-new: And all of yesterday, all they showed was Ridiculousness. I don't know about you guys, but I've seen the show, it's just a less funny rip-off of Tosh.0. Maybe instead of having the RW marathon over the weekend (or in addition to) could have shown another marathon of a popular season right before the premiere, maybe LA, Denver, Austin, Vegas 2? Anything would have been better than Ridiculousness. (BTW, I tried to write this last night, but for some reason was not able to)[/QUOTE] I would rather watch 16 and pregnant than ridiculousness
I've never understood that. MTV really has nothing to offer tbh (I love Awkward though).
[QUOTE=V1man;338897]MTV was marketing Portland to its existing MTV audience. People may be impressed by the replays of past RW seasons; but, again, the audience was internal to MTV. Sure, they did some outreach via email to people who had previously registered at MTV.com. Unfortunately for RW, they lost their prior audience for good reasons. That old audience has so many more interesting options now on cable or satellite on Wed at 10 PM, that expecting the "old school" viewers to easily return is unrealistic. For a relatively small cost, MTV could have contracted 30 of their popular RW/RR cast members email all the people with MTV.com accounts. That outreach would have received a much greater positive response.[/QUOTE] Just curious, did you watch the premiere? Do you think the rating should have be better?
[QUOTE=WallyT09;338904]I would rather watch 16 and pregnant than ridiculousness[/QUOTE] Both are pretty good actually.
[QUOTE=V1man;338897]MTV was marketing Portland to its existing MTV audience. People may be impressed by the replays of past RW seasons; but, again, the audience was internal to MTV. Sure, they did some outreach via email to people who had previously registered at MTV.com. Unfortunately for RW, they lost their prior audience for good reasons. That old audience has so many more interesting options now on cable or satellite on Wed at 10 PM, that expecting the "old school" viewers to easily return is unrealistic. For a relatively small cost, MTV could have contracted 30 of their popular RW/RR cast members email all the people with MTV.com accounts. That outreach would have received a much greater positive response.[/QUOTE] That's a damn good idea, V1
[QUOTE=wutzrenzi;338905]I've never understood that. MTV really has nothing to offer tbh (I love Awkward though).[/QUOTE] I hate Awkward. I love Jenna/Ashley Rickards but the rest of the cast and excluding Nikki from the Mickey Mouse Club who plays the guidance counselor the show sucks.
[QUOTE=GDInstall;338909]Just curious, did you watch the premiere? Do you think the rating should have be better?[/QUOTE] I did watch on DVR, but admit to being distracted while working on my taxes. In order to answer your second question, I have to make one assumption for practical purposes. That assumption is that viewers should have abandoned what they did watch in favor of RW. Here is RW's cable competition on Wed at PM. [ATTACH]1700[/ATTACH] And the network ratings at 10 PM. [FONT=Arial Black][B] 10:00PM NBC Chicago Fire 1.8 5 6.90 ABC Nashville . 1.5 4 5.14 CBS CSI - R . 1.3 4 6.92[/B][/FONT] Obviously, any number of people could have abandoned these shows and elected to watch RW instead. The bottom line, of course, is that they didn't. Should people have watched RW, meaning that it was better TV than other shows at 10 PM? I'm not sure. Frankly, the outdoor hot tub and guys bringing home women is hardly new, and neither is the "fight" that ensued after their departure. I can think of a number of episodes from "Hollywood" which had the same core storyline. Maybe those were the best rated episodes of "Hollywood" and BMP was thinking this needed to be in the opening episode to show some strength. Duck Dynasty is not my kind of entertainment, but it is far more original in today's market than is RW. DD was #1 in the timeslot. Millions of people preferred it to RW. I honestly can't say they were wrong.
If anyone has the time, this is a very good explanation and read about why the ratings were low and the future of the show [url=http://variety.com/2013/tv/news/the-reality-of-real-world-a-falling-star-1200330907/]The Reality of ‘Real World’: A Falling Star?[/url]
I've said this before, but anyway. BMP now need to go to MTV and pitch this: The Real World 29, in Boston, all male cast, testosterone overload. Boom.
Why do people think just because it wasn't drama on the first episode its gonna be boring? of course there is no drama because its their FIRST DAY in the house.And the reason the ratings was low because of the heat game
I watched TRW for the first time EVER! Always avoided it, never wanted to watch it. But since I got hooked on the Challenge two years ago, I've been planning to watch a season of TRW from start to finish. Did it with Portland and I actually kinda liked it. I don't think I will ever LOVE the show, because I only usually only watch reality-competition shows. It's a shame that it had such bad ratings and that it might be canceled. :(
[QUOTE=theman23;338954]Why do people think just because it wasn't drama on the first episode its gonna be boring? of course there is no drama because its their FIRST DAY in the house.And the reason the ratings was low because of the heat game[/QUOTE] I disagree with you regarding the Heat game. It is almost just as likely from a statistical standpoint that RW also lost viewers to Duck Dynasty, The Big Bang Theory, Psych and the Walking Dead marathon.
[QUOTE=YvanEhtNioj;338836]Had Portland aired after Vegas, we wouldn't have this problem. San Diego had an amazing rating the first episode because it followed Vegas. I don't care what anyone says, SD as a whole was the knife that killed Real World.[/QUOTE] I remember Bill Simmons saying Vegas 2 was a home run cast with Naomi being the only that didnt bring multiple storylines to the table. You can't have the success that Vegas 2 had and follow it up with SD2. Which was horrendous all the way around. From the cast, to the storylines, it all was completely dreadful. You're right, MTV needed Portland to follow Vegas to keep the ratings strong, but totally struck out with SD2, and consequently it could turn out to be the death of the franchise.
After watching this new trailer. I'm 100 % sure that Ratings will get better. It may contain spoilers. [video=youtube;nqdh1h6XrUw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqdh1h6XrUw[/video]
[QUOTE=GDInstall;338964]After watching this new trailer. I'm 100 % sure that Ratings will get better. [/QUOTE] Dang..so the cut Joi down to only 1 full episode? Next week Marlon also talks about having sex with a man, so maybe that will bring ratings up since there are already articles about it online
Wait there's more than one article? Maybe he should've kept that to himself though because it may hurt his chances of getting a job. I hope that wasn't cruel by the way, just the way I feel.
[QUOTE=Nostalgic;338981]Wait there's more than one article? Maybe he should've kept that to himself though because it may hurt his chances of getting a job. I hope that wasn't cruel by the way, just the way I feel.[/QUOTE] Being ******** hurts his chances of getting a job? That's illegal in almost half of the United States.
[QUOTE=JodyBreeze;338963]I remember Bill Simmons saying Vegas 2 was a home run cast with Naomi being the only that didnt bring multiple storylines to the table. You can't have the success that Vegas 2 had and follow it up with SD2. Which was horrendous all the way around. From the cast, to the storylines, it all was completely dreadful. You're right, MTV needed Portland to follow Vegas to keep the ratings strong, but totally struck out with SD2, and consequently it could turn out to be the death of the franchise.[/QUOTE] Vegas also worked because collectively the cast had chemistry and it didn't seem forced like San Diego, St. Thomas and I'm not sure about Portland it's too early to tell. That season didn't really need to rely on fights to get viewers, it just had really good story lines along with a great cast and that's something that every season since then has been lacking.
I'm honestly SHOCKED by this. The premiere had so much promotion going for it, I don't understand how it could possibly do so bad? I can't help but simply attribute it to the fact that the past two seasons were pretty lackluster and made people lose interest. Hopefully ratings can pick up.

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