The Challenge: What Ifs

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[QUOTE=toenails;411442]Evan truly played an absolutely flawless game on The Ruins. He was only eligible for the Ruins 3 times, once when his team lost and he knew Adam King wouldn't pick him, and the other two times Wes and Darrell were volunteering. He was able to control everything behind the scenes and avoid all of the drama.[/QUOTE] That's not saying much when it comes to that particular challenge.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;411491]That's not saying much when it comes to that particular challenge.[/QUOTE] You still have to give him credit for it Susie & Evan had everything on lockdown Johanna, Kenny & Derrick were along for the ride and Johnny was the pawn Evan did f-up once though...the Veronica vote was a mistake Susie played the flawless game...for the second time
[QUOTE=CHIblackhawk;411367]Shouldn't JEKD actually be JEKDD since both Derrick and Darrell were part of JEK's main alliance that season?[/QUOTE] Darrell would back Veronica up and wasn't forth going to all of their plans so I don't think so.
[QUOTE=EstimatedRoa;411467]Pretty sure Evan wasn't going in vs Dunbar if Johnny lost. Pretty sure it would Derrick going in vs Dunbar.[/QUOTE] Yep
[QUOTE=jhl182;411524]Darrell would back Veronica up and wasn't forth going to all of their plans so I don't think so.[/QUOTE] He was definitely on their side with the whole crusade against Wes though.
What if Aneesa/Robin beat Paula/Ev and sent them home on Rivals 1?
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;411597]What if Aneesa/Robin beat Paula/Ev and sent them home on Rivals 1?[/QUOTE] Laurel & Cara easily win
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;411600]Laurel & Cara easily win[/QUOTE] What about Camila/Theresa? What is interesting to note is they then win the next 2 missions-- Camila/Theresa.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;411601]What about Camila/Theresa? What is interesting to note is they then win the next 2 missions-- Camila/Theresa.[/QUOTE] Laurel & Cara still likely win easily
[QUOTE=kvm1977;411507]You still have to give him credit for it Susie & Evan had everything on lockdown Johanna, Kenny & Derrick were along for the ride and Johnny was the pawn Evan did f-up once though...the Veronica vote was a mistake Susie played the flawless game...for the second time[/QUOTE] No. I don't have to give him credit for ****. He's a non-castmember and he(and his ******* buddies) made that season unwatchable. And LOL @ Susie playing a flawless game. Again in that particular season that's not saying much.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;411650]No. I don't have to give him credit for ****. He's a non-castmember and he(and his ******* buddies) made that season unwatchable. And LOL @ Susie playing a flawless game. Again in that particular season that's not saying much.[/QUOTE] What is a non-castmember? Wasn't he, er, cast to appear on this show?
[QUOTE=Lotus;411655]What is a non-castmember? Wasn't he, er, cast to appear on this show?[/QUOTE] Debut Album believes the Fresh Meat and Camila, despite being legitimate cast members on the show, do not count as "actual cast members" because they weren't on The Real World or Road Rules...
[QUOTE=Youssarian;411657]Debut Album believes the Fresh Meat and Camila, despite being legitimate cast members on the show, do not count as "actual cast members" because they weren't on The Real World or Road Rules...[/QUOTE] How annoying....
What is Dunbar's height and weight? If Johnny had lost to him on The Ruins would Derrick be willing to take him on?
[QUOTE=toenails;411915]What is Dunbar's height and weight? If Johnny had lost to him on The Ruins would Derrick be willing to take him on?[/QUOTE] He looked to be Tyrie's height based on when they would stand next to each other on Rivals 2 and Tyrie isn't that tall. Dunbar is about 5'10-5'11 max. Bananas is 5'9. Dunbar just had more mass (not necessarily muscle) than Bananas. Plus Dunbar has a ****** head.
what if mtv was to film and air different 4 challenge shows around the same time each year with different cast members and hosts and those 4 different challenge themed shows aired back to back on wedensdays and thursdays and then have a every year mtv challenge awards and hall of fame ceremony event like examples duel 3 island 2 cutthroat 2 and ruins 2 then fresh meat 3 battle of the sexes 3 inferno 4 and gauntlet 4 then battle of the seasons 3 battle of the exes 2 rivals 3 and free agents 2
That would just be.....a mess.
[QUOTE=Livewitpeace;411684]How annoying....[/QUOTE] The ranting can get annoying, but it isn't without a valid point. The challenges of the pre-Fresh Meat era were awesome. Things have definitely changed a lot. There have been plenty of good challenges since Fresh Meat, but watching old challenges like The Gauntlet or The Inferno these days makes you realize just how great those challenges really were compared to the way things are today.
[QUOTE=CHIblackhawk;412047]The ranting can get annoying, but it isn't without a valid point. The challenges of the pre-Fresh Meat era were awesome. Things have definitely changed a lot. [B]There have been plenty of good challenges since Fresh Meat[/B], but watching old challenges like The Gauntlet or The Inferno these days makes you realize just how great those challenges really were compared to the way things are today.[/QUOTE] Only a handful IMO.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;412052]Only a handful IMO.[/QUOTE] Which Challenges since Fresh Meat would you consider good?
[QUOTE=toenails;412056]Which Challenges since Fresh Meat would you consider good?[/QUOTE] The Duel 1 Cutthroat Battle of the Seasons 2 The Gauntlet 3 Free Agents(So Far)
My list is: Duel 1 Gauntlet 3 Duel 2 Ruins FM2 Cutthroat Rivals Rivals 2 Free Agents (so far)
[QUOTE=Debut Album;412058]The Duel 1 Cutthroat Battle of the Seasons 2 The Gauntlet 3 Free Agents(So Far)[/QUOTE] If the Vets had won G3 would you still consider it a good Challenge?
[QUOTE=toenails;412061]If the Vets had won G3 would you still consider it a good Challenge?[/QUOTE] It would go down a bit from being good to decent so no I wouldn't. I hated the Vets that season and thought they didn't deserve to win so it would've went down a bit in my book.
They did deserve to win because they were clearly the much better team the rookies sucked

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