The Challenge: What Ifs

what if mtv was to film and air different 4 challenge shows around the same time each year with different cast members and hosts and those 4 different challenge themed shows aired back to back on wedensdays and thursdays and then have a every year mtv challenge awards and hall of fame ceremony event like examples duel 3 island 2 cutthroat 2 and ruins 2 then fresh meat 3 battle of the sexes 3 inferno 4 and gauntlet 4 then battle of the seasons 3 battle of the exes 2 rivals 3 and free agents 2

That would just be.....a mess.

[QUOTE=Livewitpeace;411684]How annoying....[/QUOTE] The ranting can get annoying, but it isn't without a valid point. The challenges of the pre-Fresh Meat era were awesome. Things have definitely changed a lot. There have been plenty of good challenges since Fresh Meat, but watching old challenges like The Gauntlet or The Inferno these days makes you realize just how great those challenges really were compared to the way things are today.

[QUOTE=CHIblackhawk;412047]The ranting can get annoying, but it isn't without a valid point. The challenges of the pre-Fresh Meat era were awesome. Things have definitely changed a lot. [B]There have been plenty of good challenges since Fresh Meat[/B], but watching old challenges like The Gauntlet or The Inferno these days makes you realize just how great those challenges really were compared to the way things are today.[/QUOTE] Only a handful IMO.

[QUOTE=Debut Album;412052]Only a handful IMO.[/QUOTE] Which Challenges since Fresh Meat would you consider good?

[QUOTE=toenails;412056]Which Challenges since Fresh Meat would you consider good?[/QUOTE] The Duel 1 Cutthroat Battle of the Seasons 2 The Gauntlet 3 Free Agents(So Far)

My list is: Duel 1 Gauntlet 3 Duel 2 Ruins FM2 Cutthroat Rivals Rivals 2 Free Agents (so far)

[QUOTE=Debut Album;412058]The Duel 1 Cutthroat Battle of the Seasons 2 The Gauntlet 3 Free Agents(So Far)[/QUOTE] If the Vets had won G3 would you still consider it a good Challenge?

[QUOTE=toenails;412061]If the Vets had won G3 would you still consider it a good Challenge?[/QUOTE] It would go down a bit from being good to decent so no I wouldn't. I hated the Vets that season and thought they didn't deserve to win so it would've went down a bit in my book.

They did deserve to win because they were clearly the much better team the rookies sucked

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;412064]They did deserve to win because they were clearly the much better team the rookies sucked[/QUOTE] No they didn't deserve to win. Simply because of that whole "trim the fat" Bull**** they pulled. They got rid of the wrong people and did not listen to Johnny when it came to Eric. That alone makes them deserving to lose and also the way they lost made it ******* perfect! The vets were better in terms of strength but the way they handled things were horrible.

The Duel was my favorite challenge of all time.

[QUOTE=toenails;412056]Which Challenges since Fresh Meat would you consider good?[/QUOTE] The Duel Cutthroat Free Agents Rivals

For me Gauntlet 3 was horrible. I even think I enjoyed The Island more.

The Duel, Ruins, Cutthroat, Rivals 1, and FA have all been good to great seasons for me.

[QUOTE=JEKFAN;412082]The Duel was my favorite challenge of all time.[/QUOTE] i miss when CT goes bonkers

My favorite Pre-FM challenges would include Battle of the Sexes, The Gauntlet, The Inferno, The Inferno 2, and The Gauntlet 2. My post-FM favorites are Inferno 3, Cutthroat, Exes, and Rivals II.

[QUOTE=Debut Album;412071]No they didn't deserve to win. Simply because of that whole "trim the fat" Bull**** they pulled. They got rid of the wrong people and did not listen to Johnny when it came to Eric. That alone makes them deserving to lose and also the way they lost made it ******* perfect! The vets were better in terms of strength but the way they handled things were horrible.[/QUOTE] Um the fact the vets were completely aweful to Eric during the final and cared more about winning money then the fact the man's health was detiorating before their eyez is enough for me to say they didn't deserve a dime. Brad was the only one who showed any compassion.

What if bmp decided to have an all women challenge?

[QUOTE=Coralfan;412607]Um the fact the vets were completely aweful to Eric during the final and cared more about winning money then the fact the man's health was detiorating before their eyez is enough for me to say they didn't deserve a dime. Brad was the only one who showed any compassion.[/QUOTE] Well who wouldn't be to someone who constantly talked a big game how he doesn't go down he stays up and who ruined your chances at a easy victory, his health was the problem everything Johnny said was true, they should have sent him vs Evan but they didn't because they thought there'd be something like reverse tug of war where the bigger person always wins

[QUOTE=Coralfan;412608]What if bmp decided to have an all women challenge?[/QUOTE] I would definitely watch it. I mainly watch the challenges for the females, they are the ones that bring all the drama.

[QUOTE=CHIblackhawk;412567]My favorite Pre-FM challenges would include Battle of the Sexes, The Gauntlet, The Inferno, The Inferno 2, and The Gauntlet 2. My post-FM favorites are Inferno 3, Cutthroat, Exes, and Rivals II.[/QUOTE] Favorite challenges Pre Fresh Meat are The Gauntlet, The Inferno & The Inferno II Favorite challenges Post Fresh Meat II are The Duel, The Gauntlet III, The Ruins, Rivals, Battle of the Exes, Battle of the Seasons & Rivals II

[QUOTE=Coralfan;412608]What if bmp decided to have an all women challenge?[/QUOTE] The ratings would plummet at extraordinary speeds.

[QUOTE=toenails;412729]The ratings would plummet at extraordinary speeds.[/QUOTE] Yep. There are a thousand shows out there that shows women *****ing at each other. No need for another one. Oh and since people are doing it... Favorite Golden-Era Challenges(Battle of the Seasons 1-Gauntlet 2) Battle of the Seasons 1 Battle of the Sexes 1 Inferno 2 Gauntlet 2 Favorite Silver Era Challenges.(Fresh Meat 1-The Ruins) The Duel 1 The Gauntlet 3 Favorite Bronze Era Challenge(Fresh Meat 2-Now) Battle of the Seasons 2 Cutthroat Free Agents(So Far)

What if instead of champions vs challengers, the ruins was free agents, who would make the final? 01.Brad 02.Diem 03.Darrell 04.Sarah 05.Danny 06.Ibis 07.Johnny 08.Johanna 09.Derrick 10.Casey 11.Dunbar 12.Kimberly 13.Syrus 14.KellyAnne 15.Cohutta 16.Brianna 17.Wes 18.Evelyn 19.Chet 20.Veronica 21.Evan 22.Katie 23.Adam 24.Shavon 25.Kenny 26.Tonya 27.Nick 28.Susie

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;413191]What if instead of champions vs challengers, the ruins was free agents, who would make the final? 01.Brad 02.Diem 03.Darrell 04.Sarah 05.Danny 06.Ibis 07.Johnny 08.Johanna 09.Derrick 10.Casey 11.Dunbar 12.Kimberly 13.Syrus 14.KellyAnne 15.Cohutta 16.Brianna 17.Wes 18.Evelyn 19.Chet 20.Veronica 21.Evan 22.Katie 23.Adam 24.Shavon 25.Kenny 26.Tonya 27.Nick 28.Susie[/QUOTE] Shauvon/Katie/Casey and Danny/Nick/Adam, duh!

[QUOTE=Youssarian;413192]Shauvon/Katie/Casey and Danny/Nick/Adam, duh![/QUOTE] You're forgetting Chet lol But in all seriousness who do you think it would be because the girls Evelyn is the clear winner most likey followed by KellyAnne and Sarah

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;413193]You're forgetting Chet lol But in all seriousness who do you think it would be because the girls Evelyn is the clear winner most likey followed by KellyAnne and Sarah[/QUOTE] I think Susie would have a really good shot as well. Veronica might be able to get by too. Brianna and Kimberly could also be dark horses, even though we haven't really seen Brianna compete (her elimination round loss IMO was due to mostly chance)

[QUOTE=Youssarian;413195]I think Susie would have a really good shot as well. Veronica might be able to get by too. Brianna and Kimberly could also be dark horses, even though we haven't really seen Brianna compete (her elimination round loss IMO was due to mostly chance)[/QUOTE] True, what the you think about the guys, they IMO are harder to pick a clear winner or final because there are a lot of good guys

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;413191]What if instead of champions vs challengers, the ruins was free agents, who would make the final? 01.Brad 02.Diem 03.Darrell 04.Sarah 05.Danny 06.Ibis 07.Johnny 08.Johanna 09.Derrick 10.Casey 11.Dunbar 12.Kimberly 13.Syrus 14.KellyAnne 15.Cohutta 16.Brianna 17.Wes 18.Evelyn 19.Chet 20.Veronica 21.Evan 22.Katie 23.Adam 24.Shavon 25.Kenny 26.Tonya 27.Nick 28.Susie[/QUOTE] This is a pretty tough one to call but I would say Darrell, Evan, and Wes for the guys and Evelyn, Kellyanne, and Susie for the girls. A lot of these can easily be switched since there would be some pretty solid competition across the board with both genders. This would have been much better to watch than actual Ruins challenge we got to see.