What if Tyrie was in the G3 Final and avoided going against Frank in an elimination? Do you think he would have flopped and fallen like Big Easy, since Tyrie was around 250 lbs.
What if Tyrie was in the G3 Final and avoided going against Frank in an elimination? Do you think he would have flopped and fallen like Big Easy, since Tyrie was around 250 lbs.
Tyrie couldn't have possibly done worse than Eric did; I don't think anyone (male or female) could have. The Veterans still would have lost the final though because production would have come up with something to make sure they got the "shocking twist ending" they wanted when they put together that lopsided cast to begin with. Just my opinion/conspiracy theory.
What if Tyrie was in the G3 Final and avoided going against Frank in an elimination? Do you think he would have flopped and fallen like Big Easy, since Tyrie was around 250 lbs.
Tyrie couldn't have possibly done worse than Eric did; I don't think anyone (male or female) could have. The Veterans still would have lost the final though because production would have come up with something to make sure they got the "shocking twist ending" they wanted when they put together that lopsided cast to begin with. Just my opinion/conspiracy theory.
I will probably catch heat for saying this, but I really don't think the teams were all that unfair. Working together as a team? Yes they were unfair, but had the eliminations been Veterans vs. Rookies, I think it would've been a much different challenge. Frank, MJ, Derek, Nehemiah, maybe even Tyler and Zach could've beaten Bananas, Kenny, Danny, Adam, Brad, Eric, and even Evan depending on the game. For the females, Jillian, Tori, and Janelle could've beaten any girl on the Veterans team besides Evelyn, Beth, and Coral. I never realized how many great match-ups could've happened if the eliminations were teams against each other.
You are right though, nobody could've been as bad as Eric in the final, ever. I think production wanted to give a lot of those Veterans wins though, I think they would've wanted that more than a shocking ending. What shocking endings have happened? Ruins, Island, Rivals, Rivals 2, Free Agents were all predictable.. Nothing too shocking where you couldn't pick out front-runners. Truth be told, since Gauntlet 3, the only challenge where it would've been difficult to pick winners and be way off would be Cut Throat because of the format and possibly Exes 2 because there were some stacked teams.
Let's say that before each season aired, you were told the format and the cast and how many people would make the final, and you had to choose three possible winners.
Island- If you knew there was one female winner, everyone would choose Evelyn. Johnny, Derrick, and Kenny are easy picks.
Duel 2- Rachel, easy choice. Evan would get picked a lot too, along with Landon and CT.
Ruins- Evelyn and Wes would get picks, but Bananas, Kenny, Evan, Derrick, and Susie would too over anybody else.
FM2- Tough because of all the new castmembers, but Landon and Kenny would be picked along with Wes and Evelyn.
Rivals- Ev and Bananas, maybe throw Evan and CT in there too. Laurel and Cara Maria.
Exes- Bananas and Camila, easy. CT and Diem would be picked a ton too. Mark and Robin and Cara Mari as well. This one is actually a tough one too.
Rivals 2- Complete joke if you don't pick Emily and Paula, even with Cooke and Cara Maria there. CT and Wes, along with Bananas and Frank with numbers
Free Agents- easiest of them all
You are entitled to your opinion of course, just giving my own
You make a very good case and I never actually thought of it they way you laid it out. And you're right, there really could have been some great match-ups.
On paper, the G3 teams just looked ridiculous (I didn't read spoilers or any pre-game stuff back then if there even was any) and from the very beginning of that challenge, I just had a nagging suspicion that something was a little hinky. What really clinched it for me was on the 3rd mission day (2nd guy gauntlet day), TJ said to them "Now remember you can't save the same person twice in a row" and everyone just looked at each other because that was the first time that particular rule had ever been mentioned at all. You say "Now remember..." when you've already informed someone of this and are just reminding them. The fact that the Veterans were winning so easily and almost even won a timed mission when they had twice as many people made it feel like something big was coming. And of course, there was that image of Eric lying half-dead somewhere at some point in the challenge that they showed about 492 times a day on MTV! And just in case having Eric wasn't enough, they made sure to chain everyone together and have TJ tell them repeatedly that EVERY member of the team had to cross the finish line or the team would be DQ'ed. I don't recall a rule like that ever being in place (but I could be wrong)... I know that Gauntlet had a 10-minute penalty for someone not finishing. By the time that final came around, I was expecting the Rookies to win and I was okay with that but the whole thing was just a letdown since it seemed to be a foregone conclusion (for me, at least).
I did like some of the missions on G3 and there certainly was a lot of drama. Two of my favorite moments were for the Veterans team. One was when Katie, who we all know is terrified of heights, led the way on the girder with the balls being swung at her and she had Casey and Diem breathing down her neck and she got all the way across... I was so proud of her for doing that. The other one was when Casey, who we all know is terrified of heights (and water) and admits to not liking to do anything remotely athletic, competed in that mission where they were about 300 miles above the ground on the top of a building and had to "walk the plank" and then climb down a rope ladder to grab a flag. The fact that Casey even volunteered to do that, especially when it didn't really matter to her team as far as them winning or losing that mission, and that she completed it with a fairly good time was really something to see and I was proud of her too. So G3 wasn't the best challenge but it did have some memorable moments. I still think it was rigged though!
What if Tyrie was in the G3 Final and avoided going against Frank in an elimination? Do you think he would have flopped and fallen like Big Easy, since Tyrie was around 250 lbs.
Tyrie couldn't have possibly done worse than Eric did; I don't think anyone (male or female) could have. The Veterans still would have lost the final though because production would have come up with something to make sure they got the "shocking twist ending" they wanted when they put together that lopsided cast to begin with. Just my opinion/conspiracy theory.
I will probably catch heat for saying this, but I really don't think the teams were all that unfair. Working together as a team? Yes they were unfair, but had the eliminations been Veterans vs. Rookies, I think it would've been a much different challenge. Frank, MJ, Derek, Nehemiah, maybe even Tyler and Zach could've beaten Bananas, Kenny, Danny, Adam, Brad, Eric, and even Evan depending on the game. For the females, Jillian, Tori, and Janelle could've beaten any girl on the Veterans team besides Evelyn, Beth, and Coral. I never realized how many great match-ups could've happened if the eliminations were teams against each other.
You are right though, nobody could've been as bad as Eric in the final, ever. I think production wanted to give a lot of those Veterans wins though, I think they would've wanted that more than a shocking ending. What shocking endings have happened? Ruins, Island, Rivals, Rivals 2, Free Agents were all predictable.. Nothing too shocking where you couldn't pick out front-runners. Truth be told, since Gauntlet 3, the only challenge where it would've been difficult to pick winners and be way off would be Cut Throat because of the format and possibly Exes 2 because there were some stacked teams.
Let's say that before each season aired, you were told the format and the cast and how many people would make the final, and you had to choose three possible winners.
Island- If you knew there was one female winner, everyone would choose Evelyn. Johnny, Derrick, and Kenny are easy picks.
Duel 2- Rachel, easy choice. Evan would get picked a lot too, along with Landon and CT.
Ruins- Evelyn and Wes would get picks, but Bananas, Kenny, Evan, Derrick, and Susie would too over anybody else.
FM2- Tough because of all the new castmembers, but Landon and Kenny would be picked along with Wes and Evelyn.
Rivals- Ev and Bananas, maybe throw Evan and CT in there too. Laurel and Cara Maria.
Exes- Bananas and Camila, easy. CT and Diem would be picked a ton too. Mark and Robin and Cara Mari as well. This one is actually a tough one too.
Rivals 2- Complete joke if you don't pick Emily and Paula, even with Cooke and Cara Maria there. CT and Wes, along with Bananas and Frank with numbers
Free Agents- easiest of them all
You are entitled to your opinion of course, just giving my own
Tyrie would probably beat some people too. If Zach can than so can he.
If knight had not made the ******** joke about Marlon, Aneesa wouldn't of went on that rant about coming out, thus Trishelle would of not got "mind-numbingly" annoyed by Aneesa, Thus Trishelle and Aneesa wouldn't faught, thus Trishelle probably wouldn't of quit..
If knight had not made the ******** joke about Marlon, Aneesa wouldn't of went on that rant about coming out, thus Trishelle would of not got "mind-numbingly" annoyed by Aneesa, Thus Trishelle and Aneesa wouldn't faught, thus Trishelle probably wouldn't of quit..
Good going knight
I just felt that Trishelle was just there for an appearance check that season. Just like Dunbar. If Trishelle/Sarah stayed, I don't see final 3 but maybe final 5
LOL I only ask cause Paula isn't good in eliminations and that rope thing could go either way, but I guess it would have been hard for her to freak out as badly as Diem did
LOL I only ask cause Paula isn't good in eliminations and that rope thing could go either way, but I guess it would have been hard for her to freak out as badly as Diem did
I think it could've been equal. That elimination was pathetic lol it would've been interesting to see Aneesa and Paula compete in their sixth elimination round together though. Love your avatar btw!
I think Nany has potential to be elite in the future. I can see her pulling a Jenn. She did track for years, which is why she has good endurance. For someone who never works out and drinks/smokes a lot, she's a pretty damn good competitor.
I think Nany has potential to be elite in the future. I can see her pulling a Jenn. She did track for years, which is why she has good endurance. For someone who never works out and drinks/smokes a lot, she's a pretty damn good competitor.
I think Nany has potential to be elite in the future. I can see her pulling a Jenn. She did track for years, which is why she has good endurance. For someone who never works out and drinks/smokes a lot, she's a pretty damn good competitor.
agreed!!!! if she could get a little better at eliminations she could win. she has great endurance and isn't a bad runner or swimmer. her and jonna would have done well in the rivals 2 final I think. and her and bananas would have done well in exes 2.
I think Nany has potential to be elite in the future. I can see her pulling a Jenn. She did track for years, which is why she has good endurance. For someone who never works out and drinks/smokes a lot, she's a pretty damn good competitor.
Justin praising Nany...
LMAO I like Nany! Even though I love hearing you make fun of her hahaha
LOL I only ask cause Paula isn't good in eliminations and that rope thing could go either way, but I guess it would have been hard for her to freak out as badly as Diem did
I hate Paula but she's actually good at most elimination rounds. Just not physical eliminations. All (except for 1 elimination on Fresh Meat 2) of the elimination losses she's been in had to deal with physicality (Aneesa - Duel 1 and 2 & Emily - Cutthroat and Exes 1). Paula & Emily would have 100% won over Aneesa & Diem. Hate to say it but Paula was focused on Rivals 2
Nany also needs to stop the smoking and excessive drinking. Nany has potential but her vices are her worst enemy. Same as CT in the past. If CT stopped smoking and the excessive drinking, he would have won a challenge way before Rivals 2
Paula is only focused when she's sucking on her partners tit(Emily and Evelyn). The second she gets weaned off she dies like an infant. IMo she's inferior to camila, sarah, jenn and nany
I think Nany has potential to be elite in the future. I can see her pulling a Jenn. She did track for years, which is why she has good endurance. For someone who never works out and drinks/smokes a lot, she's a pretty damn good competitor.
agreed!!!! if she could get a little better at eliminations she could win. she has great endurance and isn't a bad runner or swimmer. her and jonna would have done well in the rivals 2 final I think. and her and bananas would have done well in exes 2.
nany is already good in eliminations. Her nunbers aren't good because she goes against great competitors and always happens to put up a great fight
its not like cara maria who constantly brags about her numbers and when the truth is revealed you'll see that her elimination record is only high because she goes against a whole bunch of minimum wage chicks(that she Struggles against)
nany is a very well rounded. She can swim run fight etc. She has no weaknesses and the fact that she doesn't have to try and still shows up as a threat is a testament to her natural ability. The day nany puts in 1/4 of the amount of effort that cara does is the day that cara will lose her job
Cooke was better that final than Emily IMO, but still idk if Heather is better than Paula.
Maybe she would be ib regular missions but Paula is a beast in finals she has so much endurance
Tyrie couldn't have possibly done worse than Eric did; I don't think anyone (male or female) could have. The Veterans still would have lost the final though because production would have come up with something to make sure they got the "shocking twist ending" they wanted when they put together that lopsided cast to begin with. Just my opinion/conspiracy theory.
I will probably catch heat for saying this, but I really don't think the teams were all that unfair. Working together as a team? Yes they were unfair, but had the eliminations been Veterans vs. Rookies, I think it would've been a much different challenge. Frank, MJ, Derek, Nehemiah, maybe even Tyler and Zach could've beaten Bananas, Kenny, Danny, Adam, Brad, Eric, and even Evan depending on the game. For the females, Jillian, Tori, and Janelle could've beaten any girl on the Veterans team besides Evelyn, Beth, and Coral. I never realized how many great match-ups could've happened if the eliminations were teams against each other.
You are right though, nobody could've been as bad as Eric in the final, ever. I think production wanted to give a lot of those Veterans wins though, I think they would've wanted that more than a shocking ending. What shocking endings have happened? Ruins, Island, Rivals, Rivals 2, Free Agents were all predictable.. Nothing too shocking where you couldn't pick out front-runners. Truth be told, since Gauntlet 3, the only challenge where it would've been difficult to pick winners and be way off would be Cut Throat because of the format and possibly Exes 2 because there were some stacked teams.
Let's say that before each season aired, you were told the format and the cast and how many people would make the final, and you had to choose three possible winners.
Island- If you knew there was one female winner, everyone would choose Evelyn. Johnny, Derrick, and Kenny are easy picks.
Duel 2- Rachel, easy choice. Evan would get picked a lot too, along with Landon and CT.
Ruins- Evelyn and Wes would get picks, but Bananas, Kenny, Evan, Derrick, and Susie would too over anybody else.
FM2- Tough because of all the new castmembers, but Landon and Kenny would be picked along with Wes and Evelyn.
Rivals- Ev and Bananas, maybe throw Evan and CT in there too. Laurel and Cara Maria.
Exes- Bananas and Camila, easy. CT and Diem would be picked a ton too. Mark and Robin and Cara Mari as well. This one is actually a tough one too.
Rivals 2- Complete joke if you don't pick Emily and Paula, even with Cooke and Cara Maria there. CT and Wes, along with Bananas and Frank with numbers
Free Agents- easiest of them all
You are entitled to your opinion of course, just giving my own
You make a very good case and I never actually thought of it they way you laid it out. And you're right, there really could have been some great match-ups.
On paper, the G3 teams just looked ridiculous (I didn't read spoilers or any pre-game stuff back then if there even was any) and from the very beginning of that challenge, I just had a nagging suspicion that something was a little hinky. What really clinched it for me was on the 3rd mission day (2nd guy gauntlet day), TJ said to them "Now remember you can't save the same person twice in a row" and everyone just looked at each other because that was the first time that particular rule had ever been mentioned at all. You say "Now remember..." when you've already informed someone of this and are just reminding them. The fact that the Veterans were winning so easily and almost even won a timed mission when they had twice as many people made it feel like something big was coming. And of course, there was that image of Eric lying half-dead somewhere at some point in the challenge that they showed about 492 times a day on MTV! And just in case having Eric wasn't enough, they made sure to chain everyone together and have TJ tell them repeatedly that EVERY member of the team had to cross the finish line or the team would be DQ'ed. I don't recall a rule like that ever being in place (but I could be wrong)... I know that Gauntlet had a 10-minute penalty for someone not finishing. By the time that final came around, I was expecting the Rookies to win and I was okay with that but the whole thing was just a letdown since it seemed to be a foregone conclusion (for me, at least).
I did like some of the missions on G3 and there certainly was a lot of drama. Two of my favorite moments were for the Veterans team. One was when Katie, who we all know is terrified of heights, led the way on the girder with the balls being swung at her and she had Casey and Diem breathing down her neck and she got all the way across... I was so proud of her for doing that. The other one was when Casey, who we all know is terrified of heights (and water) and admits to not liking to do anything remotely athletic, competed in that mission where they were about 300 miles above the ground on the top of a building and had to "walk the plank" and then climb down a rope ladder to grab a flag. The fact that Casey even volunteered to do that, especially when it didn't really matter to her team as far as them winning or losing that mission, and that she completed it with a fairly good time was really something to see and I was proud of her too. So G3 wasn't the best challenge but it did have some memorable moments. I still think it was rigged though!
I disagree about Derek he was never that good imo.
Tyrie would probably beat some people too. If Zach can than so can he.
What if Jonna wasn't born?
Endurance & Rivals 1 would of been unblessed with greatness.
If knight had not made the ******** joke about Marlon, Aneesa wouldn't of went on that rant about coming out, thus Trishelle would of not got "mind-numbingly" annoyed by Aneesa, Thus Trishelle and Aneesa wouldn't faught, thus Trishelle probably wouldn't of quit..
Good going knight
I just felt that Trishelle was just there for an appearance check that season. Just like Dunbar. If Trishelle/Sarah stayed, I don't see final 3 but maybe final 5
what if Paula and Emily had been voted into the last elimination on rivals 2 against diem and aneesa?
Nothing. Absolutely nothing. *****.
DEAD
LOL I only ask cause Paula isn't good in eliminations and that rope thing could go either way, but I guess it would have been hard for her to freak out as badly as Diem did
I think it could've been equal. That elimination was pathetic lol it would've been interesting to see Aneesa and Paula compete in their sixth elimination round together though. Love your avatar btw!
#ClubNany
What if Nany worked out as much as Cara Maria?
:X
I think Nany has potential to be elite in the future. I can see her pulling a Jenn. She did track for years, which is why she has good endurance. For someone who never works out and drinks/smokes a lot, she's a pretty damn good competitor.
Justin praising Nany...
If Nany worked out and cared then she would probably be elite.
agreed!!!! if she could get a little better at eliminations she could win. she has great endurance and isn't a bad runner or swimmer. her and jonna would have done well in the rivals 2 final I think. and her and bananas would have done well in exes 2.
She also needs to learn how to use her "endurance" to her advantage in eliminations.
LMAO I like Nany! Even though I love hearing you make fun of her hahaha
I hate Paula but she's actually good at most elimination rounds. Just not physical eliminations. All (except for 1 elimination on Fresh Meat 2) of the elimination losses she's been in had to deal with physicality (Aneesa - Duel 1 and 2 & Emily - Cutthroat and Exes 1). Paula & Emily would have 100% won over Aneesa & Diem. Hate to say it but Paula was focused on Rivals 2
Nany also needs to stop the smoking and excessive drinking. Nany has potential but her vices are her worst enemy. Same as CT in the past. If CT stopped smoking and the excessive drinking, he would have won a challenge way before Rivals 2
Paula is only focused when she's sucking on her partners tit(Emily and Evelyn). The second she gets weaned off she dies like an infant. IMo she's inferior to camila, sarah, jenn and nany
nany is already good in eliminations. Her nunbers aren't good because she goes against great competitors and always happens to put up a great fight
its not like cara maria who constantly brags about her numbers and when the truth is revealed you'll see that her elimination record is only high because she goes against a whole bunch of minimum wage chicks(that she Struggles against)
nany is a very well rounded. She can swim run fight etc. She has no weaknesses and the fact that she doesn't have to try and still shows up as a threat is a testament to her natural ability. The day nany puts in 1/4 of the amount of effort that cara does is the day that cara will lose her job
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