The Challenge: What Ifs

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Ok if jordan and Sarah didn't screw Banany over who would win?

Jordan and Sarah would still win. Nia wouldn't get sent home because that huge fight would have never happened, so Leroy would have gotten 3rd and Banany would get 2nd. 

Eh its tough to say. From what I remember Sarah was slowing Jordan down a a bit so it would have come down to how much Nany would slow Bananas down. That final would essentially be Nany vs Sarah whoever can keep up with their partners the best. To me it's a toss up. 

 

True. But I still think Sarah would do better just because Nany cracks under pressure way worse than she does. Also, Jordan and Sarah would probably put their helicopter first, and theirs last, knowing that Leroy and Nia are gonna bomb the swimming portion already. 

Ok if jordan and Sarah didn't screw Banany over who would win?

Jordan and Sarah would still win. Nia wouldn't get sent home because that huge fight would have never happened, so Leroy would have gotten 3rd and Banany would get 2nd. 

Eh its tough to say. From what I remember Sarah was slowing Jordan down a a bit so it would have come down to how much Nany would slow Bananas down. That final would essentially be Nany vs Sarah whoever can keep up with their partners the best. To me it's a toss up. 

Maybe Nia would have kill these******* in final, besides swimming? She drank sweat, some fishy shit isn't that big problem for her lol.

The swim would have killed them just like it did Leroy/Theresa. Also I think Jordan/Sarah and Bananas/Nany would be better in a final than Leroy/Nia when it comes to endurance so even without the swim they probably still would have taken third. 

Ok if jordan and Sarah didn't screw Banany over who would win?

Jordan and Sarah would still win. Nia wouldn't get sent home because that huge fight would have never happened, so Leroy would have gotten 3rd and Banany would get 2nd. 

Eh its tough to say. From what I remember Sarah was slowing Jordan down a a bit so it would have come down to how much Nany would slow Bananas down. That final would essentially be Nany vs Sarah whoever can keep up with their partners the best. To me it's a toss up. 

 

True. But I still think Sarah would do better just because Nany cracks under pressure way worse than she does. Also, Jordan and Sarah would probably put their helicopter first, and theirs last, knowing that Leroy and Nia are gonna bomb the swimming portion already. 

True the helicopter thing could be a factor. If her cracking under pressure is reffering to Free Agents when she got off the bike for all of 30 seconds I don't think she'll have a meltdown during the final. Even if she thought about having a meltdown Bananas wouldn't let her. They actually work really well together. 

I think BaNany would have won. That was such a weak final.

If Nia can't even stand on a damn platform how the hell is she gonna jump out of helicopter lol.
Plus the swim would put them in third.

the best final would be BaNany vs Theresa/Wes vs Sarah/Jordan.

boom

 

Sarah admitted that she voted in Bananas becasue she knew she probably wouldn't beat him in a final. It's hard to predict how Nany would have performed, but as much as I dislike Bananas, I must admit he's great at finals. The helicopter, however, would have been a factor.

If Banany would have made the Exes 2 finals, they would have won by a landslide. Did you see their teamwork in the Free Agents final hiking up that cliff? BOTExes 2 final was weaker than the FA Final and Nany did amazing for Nany.

I agree. The whole helicopter thing was probably 15 minutes of difference, Bananas and Nany would have made it up immediately. Sarah was smart to eliminate Bananas, becasue she knew it was her only option to win.

I agree. The whole helipcopter thing was probably 15 minutes of difference, Bananas and Nany would have made it up immediately. Sarah was smart to eliminate Bananas, becasue she knew it was her only option to win.

If Leroy and Theresa can make up the time at the rock throwing/caviar stage, Banany would have made up the time easily. Sarah played the game right. Bananas did the same thing on FA and Rivals sending in CT. He knew CT was/is his biggest competition. If Sarah said she sent in Bananas because she knew she couldn't beat him, I think Bananas would have at least understood and somewhat respected the decision because he's done it before...but bringing up Paula on the Island was stupid on Sarah's part because it was a different situation.

I agree. The whole helipcopter thing was probably 15 minutes of difference, Bananas and Nany would have made it up immediately. Sarah was smart to eliminate Bananas, becasue she knew it was her only option to win.

If Leroy and Theresa can make up the time at the rock throwing/caviar stage, Banany would have made up the time easily. Sarah played the game right. Bananas did the same thing on FA and Rivals sending in CT. He knew CT was/is his biggest competition. If Sarah said she sent in Bananas because she knew she couldn't beat him, I think Bananas would have at least understood and somewhat respected the decision because he's done it before...but bringing up Paula on the Island was stupid on Sarah's part because it was a different situation.

I think she did admit it. I don't remember if it was on the reunion, confessional or Twitter, but I do remember her saying something like "Duh, obviously I sent him in becasue I wouldn't beat him in a final! I wanted to wanted"

I agree. The whole helipcopter thing was probably 15 minutes of difference, Bananas and Nany would have made it up immediately. Sarah was smart to eliminate Bananas, becasue she knew it was her only option to win.

If Leroy and Theresa can make up the time at the rock throwing/caviar stage, Banany would have made up the time easily. Sarah played the game right. Bananas did the same thing on FA and Rivals sending in CT. He knew CT was/is his biggest competition. If Sarah said she sent in Bananas because she knew she couldn't beat him, I think Bananas would have at least understood and somewhat respected the decision because he's done it before...but bringing up Paula on the Island was stupid on Sarah's part because it was a different situation.

I think she did admit it. I don't remember if it was on the reunion, confessional or Twitter, but I do remember her saying something like "Duh, obviously I sent him in becasue I wouldn't beat him in a final! I wanted to wanted"

Maybe it was an after show. I don't remember. I think she knew that was the reason but Bananas wanted her to say it for his ego

It would have veen close race. Leroy and Theresa saw them in rock throw but Jordan&Sarah were finishing their stop there, Leroy&Theresa starting (30min). Also do not know how well they would have done in drinking part, especially Nany. And puzzle also. I think Jordan&Sarah still would have finished day one first, thanks to helicopter thing but it would have been really close. and thanks to that won whole thing.

(Sorry if this one has already been mentioned but I don't remember seeing it):

What if Paula had been on the Challengers team on The Ruins instead of Casey?  Obviously Paula was in JEK's hip pocket on everything but would she have had a decent chance of making the final?  She was worthless on The Island and not much better on Duel 2 but she couldn't have been any worse than Casey.  Would she have been sent into eliminations and possibly held her own?  If she HAD made the final, would she have purposely thrown it to allow her boys to win again in exchange for getting a share of their prize money or would she have decided to "screw them over" (like she claimed J & K did to her) in order to get her first challenge victory?

Speaking of Paula, does anyone know why she wasn't cast for The Ruins?  Usually whenever any variation of the JEK alliance is on a challenge, she's right there with them.  I've never understood why she was absent on that one.

 

(Sorry if this one has already been mentioned but I don't remember seeing it):

What if Paula had been on the Challengers team on The Ruins instead of Casey?  Obviously Paula was in JEK's hip pocket on everything but would she have had a decent chance of making the final?  She was worthless on The Island and not much better on Duel 2 but she couldn't have been any worse than Casey.  Would she have been sent into eliminations and possibly held her own?  If she HAD made the final, would she have purposely thrown it to allow her boys to win again in exchange for getting a share of their prize money or would she have decided to "screw them over" (like she claimed J & K did to her) in order to get her first challenge victory?

Speaking of Paula, does anyone know why she wasn't cast for The Ruins?  Usually whenever any variation of the JEK alliance is on a challenge, she's right there with them.  I've never understood why she was absent on that one.

 

I actually want to know this too. It was surprising see that Paula wasn't on that challenge(but I was glad because I DESPISED her at that point) and I kinda wondered why.

Paula would've been sent home by Susie, so I'm pretty happy she wasn't on it. 

I agree with you about despising Paula during that period.  I liked her up to The Island (didn't watch her RW season) and was okay with her on Rivals because she was there to win and actually chose to think for herself instead of letting her boys make her decisions.

Hopefully someone will have some info on why Paula wasn't on The Ruins.  It could be something mundane like she couldn't get off work or she was sick at the time.

 

Was thinking about this today, what if CJ and Jasmine beat Zach and Sam in Hall Brawl?

Obviously, both Cancun would've been a strong team of four. San Diego of just Ashley and Frank is a strong team as well, losing all the animosity and their anchor (Sam) but also losing serious size and strength (Zach).

Challenges after this elimination were Abandon Ship,  Force Field, and Sling Shot. Jonna and Derek performed well in Abandon Ship by themselves and I don't think Jasmine holds them back much, so I could see them winning. I see Cancun winning Force Field too, in large part to CJ.

Depending on who wings Sling Shot, I think Cancun would've won the entire challenge if CJ and Jasmine win that elimination. I think the final would've been:

1. Cancun (CJ, Jonna, Derek, Jasmine)

2. San Diego (Frank and Ashley)

3. Brooklyn (Sarah and Chet)

4. Las Vegas (Dustin and Trishelle)

Was thinking about this today, what if CJ and Jasmine beat Zach and Sam in Hall Brawl?

Obviously, both Cancun would've been a strong team of four. San Diego of just Ashley and Frank is a strong team as well, losing all the animosity and their anchor (Sam) but also losing serious size and strength (Zach).

Challenges after this elimination were Abandon Ship,  Force Field, and Sling Shot. Jonna and Derek performed well in Abandon Ship by themselves and I don't think Jasmine holds them back much, so I could see them winning. I see Cancun winning Force Field too, in large part to CJ.

Depending on who wings Sling Shot, I think Cancun would've won the entire challenge if CJ and Jasmine win that elimination. I think the final would've been:

1. Cancun (CJ, Jonna, Derek, Jasmine)

2. San Diego (Frank and Ashley)

3. Brooklyn (Sarah and Chet)

4. Las Vegas (Dustin and Trishelle)

Cancun would have not won the season. They still had Jasmine. Frank/Ashley or Sarah/Chet would have won it all

Was thinking about this today, what if CJ and Jasmine beat Zach and Sam in Hall Brawl?

Obviously, both Cancun would've been a strong team of four. San Diego of just Ashley and Frank is a strong team as well, losing all the animosity and their anchor (Sam) but also losing serious size and strength (Zach).

Challenges after this elimination were Abandon Ship,  Force Field, and Sling Shot. Jonna and Derek performed well in Abandon Ship by themselves and I don't think Jasmine holds them back much, so I could see them winning. I see Cancun winning Force Field too, in large part to CJ.

Depending on who wings Sling Shot, I think Cancun would've won the entire challenge if CJ and Jasmine win that elimination. I think the final would've been:

1. Cancun (CJ, Jonna, Derek, Jasmine)

2. San Diego (Frank and Ashley)

3. Brooklyn (Sarah and Chet)

4. Las Vegas (Dustin and Trishelle)

Cancun would have not won the season. They still had Jasmine. Frank/Ashley or Sarah/Chet would have won it all

If San Diego won with Sam, I don't think it's ridiculous at all to think Cancun could win with Jasmine.

Was thinking about this today, what if CJ and Jasmine beat Zach and Sam in Hall Brawl?

Obviously, both Cancun would've been a strong team of four. San Diego of just Ashley and Frank is a strong team as well, losing all the animosity and their anchor (Sam) but also losing serious size and strength (Zach).

Challenges after this elimination were Abandon Ship,  Force Field, and Sling Shot. Jonna and Derek performed well in Abandon Ship by themselves and I don't think Jasmine holds them back much, so I could see them winning. I see Cancun winning Force Field too, in large part to CJ.

Depending on who wings Sling Shot, I think Cancun would've won the entire challenge if CJ and Jasmine win that elimination. I think the final would've been:

1. Cancun (CJ, Jonna, Derek, Jasmine)

2. San Diego (Frank and Ashley)

3. Brooklyn (Sarah and Chet)

4. Las Vegas (Dustin and Trishelle)

Cancun would have not won the season. They still had Jasmine. Frank/Ashley or Sarah/Chet would have won it all

If San Diego won with Sam, I don't think it's ridiculous at all to think Cancun could win with Jasmine.

Brooklyn had Devyn and Vegas had Trishelle. Bigger anchors than Sam. Sarah/Chet & Frank/Ashley are both stronger teams

Was thinking about this today, what if CJ and Jasmine beat Zach and Sam in Hall Brawl?

Obviously, both Cancun would've been a strong team of four. San Diego of just Ashley and Frank is a strong team as well, losing all the animosity and their anchor (Sam) but also losing serious size and strength (Zach).

Challenges after this elimination were Abandon Ship,  Force Field, and Sling Shot. Jonna and Derek performed well in Abandon Ship by themselves and I don't think Jasmine holds them back much, so I could see them winning. I see Cancun winning Force Field too, in large part to CJ.

Depending on who wings Sling Shot, I think Cancun would've won the entire challenge if CJ and Jasmine win that elimination. I think the final would've been:

1. Cancun (CJ, Jonna, Derek, Jasmine)

2. San Diego (Frank and Ashley)

3. Brooklyn (Sarah and Chet)

4. Las Vegas (Dustin and Trishelle)

Cancun would have not won the season. They still had Jasmine. Frank/Ashley or Sarah/Chet would have won it all

If San Diego won with Sam, I don't think it's ridiculous at all to think Cancun could win with Jasmine.

Yeah. I think Cancun could take it home with Jasmine considering she'd be easy to carry I think.

Paula would of done great on the ruins.. Paula always has above avg. showings during team challenges. Maybe JEK would of kept her out of the ruins for backstabbing her idk lol. I feel like she would of made finals 

Paula would of done great on the ruins.. Paula always has above avg. showings during team challenges. Maybe JEK would of kept her out of the ruins for backstabbing her idk lol. I feel like she would of made finals 

She probably would have made the finals because KellyAnne vs Ev would have still happened and after Ev, I can't see any of the champions beating Paula. Susie probably would have lost to either Paula, Sarah or KellyAnne in the last elimination. 

Paula would of done great on the ruins.. Paula always has above avg. showings during team challenges. Maybe JEK would of kept her out of the ruins for backstabbing her idk lol. I feel like she would of made finals 

She probably would have made the finals because KellyAnne vs Ev would have still happened and after Ev, I can't see any of the champions beating Paula. Susie probably would have lost to either Paula, Sarah or KellyAnne in the last elimination. 

Susie would've beaten Paula, hands down.

I don't think so. Paula is heavier than Susie (mainly her *****) and I think Paula is stronger so she would beaten her in Rag Doll or the Muy Thai (think that was the kicking one). Paula did well against Aneesa on Duel 1 back when she weighed the same as her left **** today. 

Paula would of done great on the ruins.. Paula always has above avg. showings during team challenges. Maybe JEK would of kept her out of the ruins for backstabbing her idk lol. I feel like she would of made finals 

She probably would have made the finals because KellyAnne vs Ev would have still happened and after Ev, I can't see any of the champions beating Paula. Susie probably would have lost to either Paula, Sarah or KellyAnne in the last elimination. 

Susie would've beaten Paula, hands down.


I doubt it, Paula has never been a bad competitor I think it could be a toss up

Paula would of done great on the ruins.. Paula always has above avg. showings during team challenges. Maybe JEK would of kept her out of the ruins for backstabbing her idk lol. I feel like she would of made finals 

She probably would have made the finals because KellyAnne vs Ev would have still happened and after Ev, I can't see any of the champions beating Paula. Susie probably would have lost to either Paula, Sarah or KellyAnne in the last elimination. 

Susie would've beaten Paula, hands down.

Don't think so. Paula is stronger than Susie so I think Paula would probably win against her.

Susie sort of outperformed paula on i3. I hate Susie but she's a good competitor so her vs paula would be a fair match up

What if each season on BOTS2 had their (athletically) best team? (and let's throw out Fresh Meat since obviously Evan, Kenny, Evelyn, and Laurel would've shit stomped everyone) 

Austin: Wes, Nehemiah, Melinda, Johanna

Brooklyn: Sarah, Scott, Chet, and...um...Baya I guess? 

New Orleans: Ashlee...Knight, Jemmye and Eric I suppose

St. Thomas: Robb, Trey, Marie, Laura...they got this one right (athletically at least)

Back to San Diego:  Frank, Zach, Ashley and Alex (she was a gymnast if I'm not mistaken)

Cancun: CJ, Derek, Jonna and probably Ayiiia

Vegas: Leroy, Cooke, Nany and Frank R. (Alton is a freak but Frank is a beast too and he would've been more in it to win than Alton)

I think that show would be Vegas's to lose with San Diego as a close second. 

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