What if Jonna wouldn't have lost her passport and got Pete, Noor or Luke as a partner?
That season would've been a little bit better considering Evelyn wouldn't have been on it.
So, so true.
It would've been interesting to see Jonna in that house. For some reason, I always had a hard time imagining her with that cast. She had CJ, but that was it. Who knows what the draft order would've been, but if she got Pete I think they could've done pretty well.
They would've killed Lost and Found, she's great runner and can solve puzzle, I see her struggling a little in Weight For Me.
Do we watch the same show? Do you recall the "Don't Forget About Me" challenge from Exes II?
What if Jonna wouldn't have lost her passport and got Pete, Noor or Luke as a partner?
That season would've been a little bit better considering Evelyn wouldn't have been on it.
So, so true.
It would've been interesting to see Jonna in that house. For some reason, I always had a hard time imagining her with that cast. She had CJ, but that was it. Who knows what the draft order would've been, but if she got Pete I think they could've done pretty well.
They would've killed Lost and Found, she's great runner and can solve puzzle, I see her struggling a little in Weight For Me.
Do we watch the same show? Do you recall the "Don't Forget About Me" challenge from Exes II?
They were one of the first couples to get to the top of that hill, Zach didn't help her at all to memorize (every other girl got help by their partners). Plus Zach was screaming and denigrating her the entire mission and we know she doesn't work well under pressure, watch FA episode 2 mission.
What if Jonna wouldn't have lost her passport and got Pete, Noor or Luke as a partner?
That season would've been a little bit better considering Evelyn wouldn't have been on it.
So, so true.
It would've been interesting to see Jonna in that house. For some reason, I always had a hard time imagining her with that cast. She had CJ, but that was it. Who knows what the draft order would've been, but if she got Pete I think they could've done pretty well.
They would've killed Lost and Found, she's great runner and can solve puzzle, I see her struggling a little in Weight For Me.
Do we watch the same show? Do you recall the "Don't Forget About Me" challenge from Exes II?
Terrible example. First, she wasn't shwon struggling once during that mission with the running aspect and castmembers have said she is a great runner.
How well can someone perform with the least supportive, and most abusive partner? I'm pretty good at puzzles but if I knew I would get emotionally beat down if I messed up and blamed for every little thing, I would feel extremely pressured and nervous. Had Jonna had a better partner, they would've performed a lot better.
So I ask you, do you recall the abuse and torture Jonna went through on Exes II?
What if Jonna wouldn't have lost her passport and got Pete, Noor or Luke as a partner?
That season would've been a little bit better considering Evelyn wouldn't have been on it.
So, so true.
It would've been interesting to see Jonna in that house. For some reason, I always had a hard time imagining her with that cast. She had CJ, but that was it. Who knows what the draft order would've been, but if she got Pete I think they could've done pretty well.
They would've killed Lost and Found, she's great runner and can solve puzzle, I see her struggling a little in Weight For Me.
Do we watch the same show? Do you recall the "Don't Forget About Me" challenge from Exes II?
They were one of the first couples to get to the top of that hill, Zach didn't help her at all to memorize (every other girl got help by their partners). Plus Zach was screaming and denigrating her the entire mission and we know she doesn't work well under pressure, watch FA episode 2 mission.
What if Jonna wouldn't have lost her passport and got Pete, Noor or Luke as a partner?
That season would've been a little bit better considering Evelyn wouldn't have been on it.
So, so true.
It would've been interesting to see Jonna in that house. For some reason, I always had a hard time imagining her with that cast. She had CJ, but that was it. Who knows what the draft order would've been, but if she got Pete I think they could've done pretty well.
They would've killed Lost and Found, she's great runner and can solve puzzle, I see her struggling a little in Weight For Me.
Do we watch the same show? Do you recall the "Don't Forget About Me" challenge from Exes II?
They were one of the first couples to get to the top of that hill, Zach didn't help her at all to memorize (every other girl got help by their partners). Plus Zach was screaming and denigrating her the entire mission and we know she doesn't work well under pressure, watch FA episode 2 mission.
Not Brittany.
I actually remember Brittany asking Adam to memorize the colors of the squares and either way they got last.
What if Jonna wouldn't have lost her passport and got Pete, Noor or Luke as a partner?
That season would've been a little bit better considering Evelyn wouldn't have been on it.
So, so true.
It would've been interesting to see Jonna in that house. For some reason, I always had a hard time imagining her with that cast. She had CJ, but that was it. Who knows what the draft order would've been, but if she got Pete I think they could've done pretty well.
They would've killed Lost and Found, she's great runner and can solve puzzle, I see her struggling a little in Weight For Me.
Do we watch the same show? Do you recall the "Don't Forget About Me" challenge from Exes II?
They were one of the first couples to get to the top of that hill, Zach didn't help her at all to memorize (every other girl got help by their partners). Plus Zach was screaming and denigrating her the entire mission and we know she doesn't work well under pressure, watch FA episode 2 mission.
Not Brittany.
I actually remember Brittany asking Adam to memorize the colors of the squares and either way they got last.
where are you getting that every other girl had help in memorizing the puzzle from their partners?besides britney complaining
wes said he was being used for his good looks and brute strength
reilly said that it was all up to the women. we only saw jordan and jay helping their partners. no idea about nia
i didnt see zach as denigrating her the entire msision. he only started to do so once he knew they werent going to win because she was getting scatter brained. it was a reaction to her increasingly getting worse with every attempt
jonna is a good competitor but she should have finished top 3 in that mission especially considering she had the advantage of being able to look at the puzzle for the longest out of all the women
"weight for me" would have killed her but she might have been to handle "lost and found" . she can run but the issue would be how much the 25lb back pack would wear her down but paula and jillian, mandi all seemed to be okay with it
"weight for me" would have killed her but she might have been to handle "lost and found" . she can run but the issue would be how much the 25lb back pack would wear her down but paula and jillian, mandi all seemed to be okay with it
40 lbs*
And Jillian did have trouble with it. Pete definitely carried it for her in their second exile. Wes claimed that he carried Mandi's backpack aswell before gassing out.
where are you getting that every other girl had help in memorizing the puzzle from their partners?besides britney complaining
wes said he was being used for his good looks and brute strength
reilly said that it was all up to the women. we only saw jordan and jay helping their partners. no idea about nia
i didnt see zach as denigrating her the entire msision. he only started to do so once he knew they werent going to win because she was getting scatter brained. it was a reaction to her increasingly getting worse with every attempt
jonna is a good competitor but she should have finished top 3 in that mission especially considering she had the advantage of being able to look at the puzzle for the longest out of all the women
"weight for me" would have killed her but she might have been to handle "lost and found" . she can run but the issue would be how much the 25lb back pack would wear her down but paula and jillian, mandi all seemed to be okay with it
Jonna didn't perform well because Zach was basically emotionally abusing her during that challenge. You could tell she was just nervous because he kept yelling at her so she didn't perform well. She couldn't even think clearly because he was being such as ***. Zach is to blame on that challenge.
What if: Laurel and Emily switched spots on cutthroat.. as well as Camila and Theresa
Laurel and Jenn probably would have gotten into it because I don't see Laurel going into multiple eliminations and letting Jenn slide by. Blue team would have done better in the final but still not win had Laurel and Jenn be the only ones who made it to the final. Honestly Camila and Theresa could have been interchangable and not much would have changed. I still think Tori/Brad would have sent in Theresa multiple times because she was new and they had the numbers. There just probably wouldn't have been as much drama on the Red team due to Camila being on blue. Camila would have made it as far as Theresa but not make the final.
What if they sold challenge jerseys in stores. So you could go and buy a "Sarah" jersey from Exes 2 or a "Frank S" jersey from Rivals 2. You could also personalize one to put your name. Tbh MTV could make a lot of money off that idea #yourewelcome
What if Sarah G went home on day one againt David on the Gauntlet. Would Matt, Trishelle, Rachel B, and Irulan would have made it to the end since they would have faced off against someone else?
What if they made a Rivals and a Exes back in the golden Era, who do you think would be on the show?
Also, what if the rape allegations and situation never occured, do you think Tonya would have been in some of theses after Ruins? if a partner season, who would have possibily been her partner. Rivals, would have loved seeing her and veronica.
where are you getting that every other girl had help in memorizing the puzzle from their partners?besides britney complaining
wes said he was being used for his good looks and brute strength
reilly said that it was all up to the women. we only saw jordan and jay helping their partners. no idea about nia
i didnt see zach as denigrating her the entire msision. he only started to do so once he knew they werent going to win because she was getting scatter brained. it was a reaction to her increasingly getting worse with every attempt
jonna is a good competitor but she should have finished top 3 in that mission especially considering she had the advantage of being able to look at the puzzle for the longest out of all the women
"weight for me" would have killed her but she might have been to handle "lost and found" . she can run but the issue would be how much the 25lb back pack would wear her down but paula and jillian, mandi all seemed to be okay with it
Jonna didn't perform well because Zach was basically emotionally abusing her during that challenge. You could tell she was just nervous because he kept yelling at her so she didn't perform well. She couldn't even think clearly because he was being such as ***. Zach is to blame on that challenge.
look above the paragraph you bolded. he wasnt yeling at her the entire time, only when she f-cked up
besides nervousness and being yelled at doesnt reprieve her from complete liability from that bad performance anyways. they were both at fault. jonna for messing up FIRST and zach for contributing to it by yelling at her and jonna for letting it get to her so much. a normal eprson would be affected but not that much. she seems to be less than stellar under pressure and emotions which is not an admirable trait in a competitor
What if they made a Rivals and a Exes back in the golden Era, who do you think would be on the show?
Also, what if the rape allegations and situation never occured, do you think Tonya would have been in some of theses after Ruins? if a partner season, who would have possibily been her partner. Rivals, would have loved seeing her and veronica.
Her and Veronica on a rivals 2 or her even paired with Rachel or Tina would have been awesome. I would think she would have done more, she seemed like she liked coming back, V1man could prob. answer that hypothetical the best. I also would have liked to see how she would have fared on Free Agents, since we never saw her on a Duel..it would be cool to see her play her own game. I always thought Tonya was a very strong competitor.
where are you getting that every other girl had help in memorizing the puzzle from their partners?besides britney complaining
wes said he was being used for his good looks and brute strength
reilly said that it was all up to the women. we only saw jordan and jay helping their partners. no idea about nia
i didnt see zach as denigrating her the entire msision. he only started to do so once he knew they werent going to win because she was getting scatter brained. it was a reaction to her increasingly getting worse with every attempt
jonna is a good competitor but she should have finished top 3 in that mission especially considering she had the advantage of being able to look at the puzzle for the longest out of all the women
"weight for me" would have killed her but she might have been to handle "lost and found" . she can run but the issue would be how much the 25lb back pack would wear her down but paula and jillian, mandi all seemed to be okay with it
Jonna didn't perform well because Zach was basically emotionally abusing her during that challenge. You could tell she was just nervous because he kept yelling at her so she didn't perform well. She couldn't even think clearly because he was being such as ***. Zach is to blame on that challenge.
look above the paragraph you bolded. he wasnt yeling at her the entire time, only when she f-cked up
besides nervousness and being yelled at doesnt reprieve her from complete liability from that bad performance anyways. they were both at fault. jonna for messing up FIRST and zach for contributing to it by yelling at her and jonna for letting it get to her so much. a normal eprson would be affected but not that much. she seems to be less than stellar under pressure and emotions which is not an admirable trait in a competitor
This is ridiculous.
Just because he didn't start degrading her yet on that mission, she knew it was coming. How can she expect to perform on the top of her game when the slightest thing will set her partner off and cause her to be abused? Jonna was verbally ***aulted and har***ed for simply walking over and sitting with Zach, Jordan, and Reilly. I've never been in an abusive relationship, but I am close to people that have been, both physically and emotionally. Both are just as severe. The battering of the mind can take a severe toll on someone and cause them to be wary about every little thing.
Jonna was set up for a loss the minute they stepped in the Dome for the first time and Zach's name was called after her's. I come from an extensive athletic background and I know one thing will always be a fact: When you feel support from your teammates, you go into ever game, every match, every competition with a positive attitude and optimism. And that works just as much, if not more, in reverse.
And as kvm stated about, memorizing is not the same as puzzle solving. I'm great at puzzles, but I suck at remembering things. Big difference. Jonna was not at fault for that mission, sorry everyone who thinks otherwise.
where are you getting that every other girl had help in memorizing the puzzle from their partners?besides britney complaining
wes said he was being used for his good looks and brute strength
reilly said that it was all up to the women. we only saw jordan and jay helping their partners. no idea about nia
i didnt see zach as denigrating her the entire msision. he only started to do so once he knew they werent going to win because she was getting scatter brained. it was a reaction to her increasingly getting worse with every attempt
jonna is a good competitor but she should have finished top 3 in that mission especially considering she had the advantage of being able to look at the puzzle for the longest out of all the women
"weight for me" would have killed her but she might have been to handle "lost and found" . she can run but the issue would be how much the 25lb back pack would wear her down but paula and jillian, mandi all seemed to be okay with it
Jonna didn't perform well because Zach was basically emotionally abusing her during that challenge. You could tell she was just nervous because he kept yelling at her so she didn't perform well. She couldn't even think clearly because he was being such as ***. Zach is to blame on that challenge.
look above the paragraph you bolded. he wasnt yeling at her the entire time, only when she f-cked up
besides nervousness and being yelled at doesnt reprieve her from complete liability from that bad performance anyways. they were both at fault. jonna for messing up FIRST and zach for contributing to it by yelling at her and jonna for letting it get to her so much. a normal eprson would be affected but not that much. she seems to be less than stellar under pressure and emotions which is not an admirable trait in a competitor
This is ridiculous.
Just because he didn't start degrading her yet on that mission, she knew it was coming. How can she expect to perform on the top of her game when the slightest thing will set her partner off and cause her to be abused? Jonna was verbally ***aulted and har***ed for simply walking over and sitting with Zach, Jordan, and Reilly. I've never been in an abusive relationship, but I am close to people that have been, both physically and emotionally. Both are just as severe. The battering of the mind can take a severe toll on someone and cause them to be wary about every little thing.
Jonna was set up for a loss the minute they stepped in the Dome for the first time and Zach's name was called after her's. I come from an extensive athletic background and I know one thing will always be a fact: When you feel support from your teammates, you go into ever game, every match, every competition with a positive attitude and optimism. And that works just as much, if not more, in reverse.
And as kvm stated about, memorizing is not the same as puzzle solving. I'm great at puzzles, but I suck at remembering things. Big difference. Jonna was not at fault for that mission, sorry everyone who thinks otherwise.
Isn't it crazy the only mission they won (The brush off), Zach didn't scream at her because she was always there with paint when he got on the platform? including the trivia mission (well, the lost was totally Jonna's fault) He said disparaging things about her body.
Just because he didn't start degrading her yet on that mission, she knew it was coming.
so she messed up because of zachs preconceived criticsms on her FUTURE failure. she messed up beacuse she knew that she would be yelled at if she messed up. thats a pretty awful rationalization and certanily not somethign that could ever be applied to the real world in any situation.
Jonna was verbally assaulted and harassed for simply walking over and sitting with Zach, Jordan, and Reilly.
isolated incident on a different day that had nothing to do with winning the challenge
The battering of the mind can take a severe toll on someone and cause them to be wary about every little thing.
which is why she doesnt have the correct brain wiring resistant to pressure and competition to be one of the top girls. shes too sensitive and mentally unstable while true competitors are cutthroat machines that are rarely phased by any "noise" or distractions going on outside of their brains
this isnt the first time that jonna has snapped under pressure. it happened on seasons(final elimination), free agents(bananas, first mission puzzle), rivals 2(dog collar shock) and again here
When you feel support from your teammates, you go into ever game, every match, every competition with a positive attitude and optimism. And that works just as much, if not more, in reverse.
not always true. the most successfully competitive people in the world in all fields are perfectionists that are constantly unhappy with themselves. the moment you feel complacent with yourself is the moment you stagnate and stop advancement. if youre a ****** and you have people constantly reaffirming that youre hot **** and totally awesome and in no need of losing weight, youre not going to drop the oreos and bacon anytime soon.
our own precious jordan from real world portland is a great example of how being beat down and abused by his father molds a person with strong character. its basic evolution where a hard and stressful environment breeds a better organism
Jonna was not at fault for that mission, sorry everyone who thinks otherwise.
they were both to blame. sorry but its not zachs fault that jonna forgot her puzzle pieces when she was going up the hill just because he yelled at her a week ago.
for whatever reason i notice people on this forum have a huge savior mother theresa complex towards jonna and all her bad performances are always excused beyond the scope of reason. zach disgusts me and i cringe at the thought of defending him but he wasnt the complete reason that jonna was not pulling her weight this season
Isn't it crazy the only mission they won (The brush off), Zach didn't scream at her because she was always there with paint when he got on the platform? including the trivia mission (well, the lost was totally Jonna's fault) He said disparaging things about her body.
she failed on a lot of the other challenges where he didnt yell at her
the only time he ever got verbally abusive towards her was on the endurance one. his yelling added a higher chance of them being the last place team but it had no effect on whether or not they were going to win that challenge because thankfully jonna already made sure that wasnt going to happen when she didnt memorize her pieces, opening the door for theresa or another #1 team
on speed dating she got lucky. if there were a rule that people would be DQed if they jumped off the truck then she woudl have been f-cked. im sure she was praying to the holy man right after that challenge hoping that she wouldnt be penalized for that risky maneuver
she did maybe one or two good things this season and everything else was floppier than the stale pancakes i had for dinner last night. one of her worst challenge appearances to date and its annoying that people are always coddling her
where are you getting that every other girl had help in memorizing the puzzle from their partners?besides britney complaining
wes said he was being used for his good looks and brute strength
reilly said that it was all up to the women. we only saw jordan and jay helping their partners. no idea about nia
i didnt see zach as denigrating her the entire msision. he only started to do so once he knew they werent going to win because she was getting scatter brained. it was a reaction to her increasingly getting worse with every attempt
jonna is a good competitor but she should have finished top 3 in that mission especially considering she had the advantage of being able to look at the puzzle for the longest out of all the women
"weight for me" would have killed her but she might have been to handle "lost and found" . she can run but the issue would be how much the 25lb back pack would wear her down but paula and jillian, mandi all seemed to be okay with it
Jonna didn't perform well because Zach was basically emotionally abusing her during that challenge. You could tell she was just nervous because he kept yelling at her so she didn't perform well. She couldn't even think clearly because he was being such as ***. Zach is to blame on that challenge.
look above the paragraph you bolded. he wasnt yeling at her the entire time, only when she f-cked up
besides nervousness and being yelled at doesnt reprieve her from complete liability from that bad performance anyways. they were both at fault. jonna for messing up FIRST and zach for contributing to it by yelling at her and jonna for letting it get to her so much. a normal eprson would be affected but not that much. she seems to be less than stellar under pressure and emotions which is not an admirable trait in a competitor
This is ridiculous.
Just because he didn't start degrading her yet on that mission, she knew it was coming. How can she expect to perform on the top of her game when the slightest thing will set her partner off and cause her to be abused? Jonna was verbally ***aulted and har***ed for simply walking over and sitting with Zach, Jordan, and Reilly. I've never been in an abusive relationship, but I am close to people that have been, both physically and emotionally. Both are just as severe. The battering of the mind can take a severe toll on someone and cause them to be wary about every little thing.
Jonna was set up for a loss the minute they stepped in the Dome for the first time and Zach's name was called after her's. I come from an extensive athletic background and I know one thing will always be a fact: When you feel support from your teammates, you go into ever game, every match, every competition with a positive attitude and optimism. And that works just as much, if not more, in reverse.
And as kvm stated about, memorizing is not the same as puzzle solving. I'm great at puzzles, but I suck at remembering things. Big difference. Jonna was not at fault for that mission, sorry everyone who thinks otherwise.
Exactly. Zach is to blame for the majority of the missions. She was scared of him and she knew no matter what she did, she was going to get yelled at. If Zach was a better partner to her then I really do think they could have made the finals.
What if Trashelle(yes TRASHelle because she is one of the most intollerable people on this show) had gone in with Alton in Battle of the seasons instead of nany and nany and dustin went to the final? 1)what would be our perception of nany as a competitor and 2) how would they have performed in the final 3) would they have made it there?
What if Trashelle(yes TRASHelle because she is one of the most intollerable people on this show) had gone in with Alton in Battle of the seasons instead of nany and nany and dustin went to the final? 1)what would be our perception of nany as a competitor and 2) how would they have performed in the final 3) would they have made it there?
I think Dustin and Nany would have won the final. That would've been everything to me because I love both of them. It would've been a great ending to a great season. I'm imagining how hilarious the look on Frank's face would be if his two arch enemies beat him.
What if Trashelle(yes TRASHelle because she is one of the most intollerable people on this show) had gone in with Alton in Battle of the seasons instead of nany and nany and dustin went to the final? 1)what would be our perception of nany as a competitor and 2) how would they have performed in the final 3) would they have made it there?
I think Dustin and Nany would have won the final. That would've been everything to me because I love both of them. It would've been a great ending to a great season. I'm imagining how hilarious the look on Frank's face would be if his two arch enemies beat him.
Honestly, I don't think the outcome would have changed. Despite Nany and Dustin being very close, Nany cracks under pressure as we saw on her only final and wasn't there a part where they had to transport tires or something? 4 people would have done that a lot better than 2.
What if Trashelle(yes TRASHelle because she is one of the most intollerable people on this show) had gone in with Alton in Battle of the seasons instead of nany and nany and dustin went to the final? 1)what would be our perception of nany as a competitor and 2) how would they have performed in the final 3) would they have made it there?
I think Dustin and Nany would have won the final. That would've been everything to me because I love both of them. It would've been a great ending to a great season. I'm imagining how hilarious the look on Frank's face would be if his two arch enemies beat him.
Honestly, I don't think the outcome would have changed. Despite Nany and Dustin being very close, Nany cracks under pressure as we saw on her only final and wasn't there a part where they had to transport tires or something? 4 people would have done that a lot better than 2.
I can see your point. I still think they would've had a good chance though because San Diego and Brooklyn had anchors (Sam and Devyn) on their team that held them back. Even though Nany cracks under pressure, she has worked well with all of her partners. Dustin and Nany are the most well rounded team out of the three IMO.
What if Trashelle(yes TRASHelle because she is one of the most intollerable people on this show) had gone in with Alton in Battle of the seasons instead of nany and nany and dustin went to the final? 1)what would be our perception of nany as a competitor and 2) how would they have performed in the final 3) would they have made it there?
I think Dustin and Nany would have won the final. That would've been everything to me because I love both of them. It would've been a great ending to a great season. I'm imagining how hilarious the look on Frank's face would be if his two arch enemies beat him.
Do we watch the same show? Do you recall the "Don't Forget About Me" challenge from Exes II?
They were one of the first couples to get to the top of that hill, Zach didn't help her at all to memorize (every other girl got help by their partners). Plus Zach was screaming and denigrating her the entire mission and we know she doesn't work well under pressure, watch FA episode 2 mission.
Terrible example. First, she wasn't shwon struggling once during that mission with the running aspect and castmembers have said she is a great runner.
How well can someone perform with the least supportive, and most abusive partner? I'm pretty good at puzzles but if I knew I would get emotionally beat down if I messed up and blamed for every little thing, I would feel extremely pressured and nervous. Had Jonna had a better partner, they would've performed a lot better.
So I ask you, do you recall the abuse and torture Jonna went through on Exes II?
Not Brittany.
I actually remember Brittany asking Adam to memorize the colors of the squares and either way they got last.
She asked but he didn't help.
where are you getting that every other girl had help in memorizing the puzzle from their partners?besides britney complaining
wes said he was being used for his good looks and brute strength
reilly said that it was all up to the women. we only saw jordan and jay helping their partners. no idea about nia
i didnt see zach as denigrating her the entire msision. he only started to do so once he knew they werent going to win because she was getting scatter brained. it was a reaction to her increasingly getting worse with every attempt
jonna is a good competitor but she should have finished top 3 in that mission especially considering she had the advantage of being able to look at the puzzle for the longest out of all the women
"weight for me" would have killed her but she might have been to handle "lost and found" . she can run but the issue would be how much the 25lb back pack would wear her down but paula and jillian, mandi all seemed to be okay with it
40 lbs*
And Jillian did have trouble with it. Pete definitely carried it for her in their second exile. Wes claimed that he carried Mandi's backpack aswell before gassing out.
What if: Laurel and Emily switched spots on cutthroat.. as well as Camila and Theresa
Jonna didn't perform well because Zach was basically emotionally abusing her during that challenge. You could tell she was just nervous because he kept yelling at her so she didn't perform well. She couldn't even think clearly because he was being such as ***. Zach is to blame on that challenge.
Laurel and Jenn probably would have gotten into it because I don't see Laurel going into multiple eliminations and letting Jenn slide by. Blue team would have done better in the final but still not win had Laurel and Jenn be the only ones who made it to the final. Honestly Camila and Theresa could have been interchangable and not much would have changed. I still think Tori/Brad would have sent in Theresa multiple times because she was new and they had the numbers. There just probably wouldn't have been as much drama on the Red team due to Camila being on blue. Camila would have made it as far as Theresa but not make the final.
I'd buy one...for sure
lol
What if Sarah G went home on day one againt David on the Gauntlet. Would Matt, Trishelle, Rachel B, and Irulan would have made it to the end since they would have faced off against someone else?
What if they made a Rivals and a Exes back in the golden Era, who do you think would be on the show?
Also, what if the rape allegations and situation never occured, do you think Tonya would have been in some of theses after Ruins? if a partner season, who would have possibily been her partner. Rivals, would have loved seeing her and veronica.
Memorizing something does not equal solving puzzles
look above the paragraph you bolded. he wasnt yeling at her the entire time, only when she f-cked up
besides nervousness and being yelled at doesnt reprieve her from complete liability from that bad performance anyways. they were both at fault. jonna for messing up FIRST and zach for contributing to it by yelling at her and jonna for letting it get to her so much. a normal eprson would be affected but not that much. she seems to be less than stellar under pressure and emotions which is not an admirable trait in a competitor
Her and Veronica on a rivals 2 or her even paired with Rachel or Tina would have been awesome. I would think she would have done more, she seemed like she liked coming back, V1man could prob. answer that hypothetical the best. I also would have liked to see how she would have fared on Free Agents, since we never saw her on a Duel..it would be cool to see her play her own game. I always thought Tonya was a very strong competitor.
This is ridiculous.
Just because he didn't start degrading her yet on that mission, she knew it was coming. How can she expect to perform on the top of her game when the slightest thing will set her partner off and cause her to be abused? Jonna was verbally ***aulted and har***ed for simply walking over and sitting with Zach, Jordan, and Reilly. I've never been in an abusive relationship, but I am close to people that have been, both physically and emotionally. Both are just as severe. The battering of the mind can take a severe toll on someone and cause them to be wary about every little thing.
Jonna was set up for a loss the minute they stepped in the Dome for the first time and Zach's name was called after her's. I come from an extensive athletic background and I know one thing will always be a fact: When you feel support from your teammates, you go into ever game, every match, every competition with a positive attitude and optimism. And that works just as much, if not more, in reverse.
And as kvm stated about, memorizing is not the same as puzzle solving. I'm great at puzzles, but I suck at remembering things. Big difference. Jonna was not at fault for that mission, sorry everyone who thinks otherwise.
Isn't it crazy the only mission they won (The brush off), Zach didn't scream at her because she was always there with paint when he got on the platform? including the trivia mission (well, the lost was totally Jonna's fault) He said disparaging things about her body.
so she messed up because of zachs preconceived criticsms on her FUTURE failure. she messed up beacuse she knew that she would be yelled at if she messed up. thats a pretty awful rationalization and certanily not somethign that could ever be applied to the real world in any situation.
isolated incident on a different day that had nothing to do with winning the challenge
which is why she doesnt have the correct brain wiring resistant to pressure and competition to be one of the top girls. shes too sensitive and mentally unstable while true competitors are cutthroat machines that are rarely phased by any "noise" or distractions going on outside of their brains
this isnt the first time that jonna has snapped under pressure. it happened on seasons(final elimination), free agents(bananas, first mission puzzle), rivals 2(dog collar shock) and again here
not always true. the most successfully competitive people in the world in all fields are perfectionists that are constantly unhappy with themselves. the moment you feel complacent with yourself is the moment you stagnate and stop advancement. if youre a ****** and you have people constantly reaffirming that youre hot **** and totally awesome and in no need of losing weight, youre not going to drop the oreos and bacon anytime soon.
our own precious jordan from real world portland is a great example of how being beat down and abused by his father molds a person with strong character. its basic evolution where a hard and stressful environment breeds a better organism
they were both to blame. sorry but its not zachs fault that jonna forgot her puzzle pieces when she was going up the hill just because he yelled at her a week ago.
for whatever reason i notice people on this forum have a huge savior mother theresa complex towards jonna and all her bad performances are always excused beyond the scope of reason. zach disgusts me and i cringe at the thought of defending him but he wasnt the complete reason that jonna was not pulling her weight this season
she failed on a lot of the other challenges where he didnt yell at her
the only time he ever got verbally abusive towards her was on the endurance one. his yelling added a higher chance of them being the last place team but it had no effect on whether or not they were going to win that challenge because thankfully jonna already made sure that wasnt going to happen when she didnt memorize her pieces, opening the door for theresa or another #1 team
on speed dating she got lucky. if there were a rule that people would be DQed if they jumped off the truck then she woudl have been f-cked. im sure she was praying to the holy man right after that challenge hoping that she wouldnt be penalized for that risky maneuver
she did maybe one or two good things this season and everything else was floppier than the stale pancakes i had for dinner last night. one of her worst challenge appearances to date and its annoying that people are always coddling her
Exactly. Zach is to blame for the majority of the missions. She was scared of him and she knew no matter what she did, she was going to get yelled at. If Zach was a better partner to her then I really do think they could have made the finals.
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What if Trashelle(yes TRASHelle because she is one of the most intollerable people on this show) had gone in with Alton in Battle of the seasons instead of nany and nany and dustin went to the final? 1)what would be our perception of nany as a competitor and 2) how would they have performed in the final 3) would they have made it there?
I think Dustin and Nany would have won the final. That would've been everything to me because I love both of them. It would've been a great ending to a great season. I'm imagining how hilarious the look on Frank's face would be if his two arch enemies beat him.
Honestly, I don't think the outcome would have changed. Despite Nany and Dustin being very close, Nany cracks under pressure as we saw on her only final and wasn't there a part where they had to transport tires or something? 4 people would have done that a lot better than 2.
I can see your point. I still think they would've had a good chance though because San Diego and Brooklyn had anchors (Sam and Devyn) on their team that held them back. Even though Nany cracks under pressure, she has worked well with all of her partners. Dustin and Nany are the most well rounded team out of the three IMO.
if we had alton on this prime in that challenge, vegas would have won.
What if Wes would have faced Cohutta in ANY other elimination round on The Ruins? How would that season have turned out?
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