[QUOTE=JEK & Wes;228109]The Ice Cream mission wasn't on Gauntlet 2 though??[/QUOTE]
I was not thinking straight when I said that. I pictured it in my head as Gauntlet 1, but apparently didn't write it that way. Whoops...
Derrick has a new podcast up.
Some people voted the Challenge Hall of Fame and for the guys it was:
Kenny, Evan, Derrick, CT and Mark (no particular order).
Mark and Derrick are discussing whether or not CT should be on that list.
I like these podcast, its cool that Derrick does this but I feel like he takes the challenges way too seriously :).
The girls who made the HOF were Rachel, Evelyn, Veronica, Susie, and Coral.
I thought this one got funny at the end when they were making fun of Kenny (it was Johnny and Derrick) but they didn't really talk about the picks.
Some interesting stuff that was said though:
1) They said (and seemed pretty sure) that CT and Wes were both juicing
2) Susie is loved by production. They said that the executive producer threatened Johnny, Kenny, Evan, and Derrick that if they threw a mission they wouldn't be invited back.
3) The consensus seemed to be that out of the people who got votes the ones who deserved it were Mark, Rachel, and Derrick...but they didn't go into depth about anyone else besides Susie and CT and a little on Coral.
I was surprised with the girls that got picked. I had Rachel, Evelyn, Jodi, Kina, and Aneesa. I like Susie a lot but I never figured she had that much support.
[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;228565]I don't see any reason why CT wouldn't be on the list. He could and would beat any other guy on that list. Kenny, on the other hand...[/QUOTE]
There is more to the challenges than just the physical aspect. Not saying Kenny is a good manipulator or a good strategist, but it can't be decided who is the best solely off of physical ability.
I don't see why Coral or Veronica, or even CT, wouldn't be chosen. Coral and Veronica especially are (were) challenge staples during the Challenges' peak.
[QUOTE=JL81790;228567]The girls who made the HOF were Rachel, Evelyn, Veronica, Susie, and Coral.
I thought this one got funny at the end when they were making fun of Kenny (it was Johnny and Derrick) but they didn't really talk about the picks.
Some interesting stuff that was said though:
[B]1) They said (and seemed pretty sure) that CT and Wes were both juicing[/B]
2) Susie is loved by production. They said that the executive producer threatened Johnny, Kenny, Evan, and Derrick that if they threw a mission they wouldn't be invited back.
3) The consensus seemed to be that out of the people who got votes the ones who deserved it were Mark, Rachel, and Derrick...but they didn't go into depth about anyone else besides Susie and CT and a little on Coral.
I was surprised with the girls that got picked. I had Rachel, Evelyn, Jodi, Kina, and Aneesa. I like Susie a lot but I never figured she had that much support.[/QUOTE]
Those two guys are the most obvious two juicers ever !! Wes went from an average looking guy on Fresh Meat to a humongous bulky looking guy on The Duel and it was only filmed like 4 or 5 months after Fresh Meat wrapped up. And then CT the most obvious of the two. I mean just look at the difference from The Duel and Inferno 3 to The Duel 2.
I don't understand why Johnny was discrediting Coral and Veronica because they're only good as the social aspect but totally leave out the fact that Kenny is mostly known for playing the game socially and to some degree, Evan too. Evan has won elimination rounds and I think he's better than Kenny but I don't feel those two deserve to be in the hall of fame. What about Landon?! Darrell!? both have won 3 times as well as Veronica. And I can't even stomach the fact that Mike wasn't on the list. Who voted for this? People that watched the show starting from Fresh Meat? They were all about merit on the podcast but I think that if they weren't friends with Kenny, they would replace with him with either Darrell, Landon, Abram, or Timmy. As far as the girls go, I think they were all pretty good picks. I'd replace Evelyn with Emily (RR:2) or Holly (RR:7) tho.
Which 7 is better, all in their prime?
[COLOR=red]CT[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]Landon[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]Alton[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]Miz[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]Jamie(RW:New Orleans)[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]Wes[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]Brad[/COLOR]
or
[COLOR=blue]Mark[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Timmy[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Dan(RR5)[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Theo V[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Darrell[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Abram[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Derrick[/COLOR]
[QUOTE=Superboy;228610]Which 7 is better, all in their prime?
[COLOR=red]CT[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]Landon[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]Alton[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]Miz[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]Jamie[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]Wes[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]Brad[/COLOR]
or
[COLOR=blue]Mark[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Timmy[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Dan(RR5)[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Theo V[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Darrell[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Abram[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Derrick[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
The [COLOR=blue]blue[/COLOR] guys, definitely.
[QUOTE=TheSeenScene;228612]The [COLOR=blue]blue[/COLOR] guys, definitely.[/QUOTE]
Thanks! And those are arguably the 7 best Real World and Road Rules male competitors all time.
[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;228614]It's very upsetting that Belou nor Lori made the HOF.
And did viewers only start watching after FM? I bet they just made it up.[/QUOTE]
The rule was that they had to have done 3 or more challenges. Those 2 only did 1 each. I also thought that it would only be fair to induct people that have actually won.
It's because the people who loved the older challenges, for the most part stopped watching/stopped caring about the challenges now and wouldn't care to vote on twitter.
[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;228614]It's very upsetting that Belou nor Lori made the HOF.
And did viewers only start watching after FM? I bet they just made it up.[/QUOTE]
Why would Belou make it? She went home what 4th on Battle of the Seasons? Never did another Challenge, as for Lori she's hot as **** but she got lucky to make it to the final of Battle of the Sexes due to infighting, bad elimination calls and Emily quitting at the end.
Veronica did VERY well physically.
She won like 5 lifesavers fairly and had a very high score on BOTS1. She's outspoken so people overlook her competitiveness and see her only for her social game.
Mark should've remembered her being unfairly eliminated in BOTS1!
[QUOTE=Superboy;228615]Thanks! And those are arguably the 7 best Real World and Road Rules male competitors all time.[/QUOTE]
So you're going to tell me that although CT and Landon outperformed Darrell on I2, he's still better? Hey man, I'm just going by facts.
[QUOTE=Superboy;228610]Which 7 is better, all in their prime?
[COLOR=red]CT[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]Landon[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]Alton[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]Miz[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]Jamie(RW:New Orleans)[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]Wes[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]Brad[/COLOR]
or
[COLOR=blue]Mark[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Timmy[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Dan(RR5)[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Theo V[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Darrell[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Abram[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Derrick[/COLOR][/QUOTE]Real World. They have three of the top 5 males in history in my opinion. (Alton, Landon, CT)
[QUOTE=JL81790;228567]
2) Susie is loved by production. They said that the executive producer threatened Johnny, Kenny, Evan, and Derrick that if they threw a mission they wouldn't be invited back. [/QUOTE]
As if we didn't need more reasons to distrust the producers manipulating outcomes.
[QUOTE=faceless;228635]So you're going to tell me that although CT and Landon outperformed Darrell on I2, he's still better? Hey man, I'm just going by facts.[/QUOTE]
When did i say Darrell was better than those two?
[QUOTE=JEK & Wes;228644]Real World. They have three of the top 5 males in history in my opinion. (Alton, Landon, CT)[/QUOTE]
Alton a top 5? Sorry, but he was too one dimensional. Theo V actually outperformed him on the Gauntlet 1 overall(5 to 3 in the missions, or 6 to 3 depending on who got out of snake soup first....Alton is shown first, but it could of been editing). Landon is also one dimensional, and is actually inferior to Alton in terms of physical prowess.....but i understand he won a lot so people overrate him too.
[QUOTE=Xeri99;228646]As if we didn't need more reasons to distrust the producers manipulating outcomes.[/QUOTE]
I wonder why production loves Susie so much? I mean i like her but to threaten orther competiors is a whole new level of caring for a competior.
IMO Landon would for sure be in the HOF...I'd probably take him over Timmy or Kenny.
And Paula an honorable mention? I like Paula and think she's a good competitor but I'd have to disagree...And even though I LOVE Ayanna and Piggy, I don't think they'd be honorable mentions either...or Holly, for that matter. Or Robin. Or even Jenn. I'd also switch out Rachel with Tina and Evelyn with maybe Tonya or Katie.
[QUOTE]IMO Landon would for sure be in the HOF...I'd probably take him over Timmy or Kenny.[/QUOTE]
Landon has the competitive abilities, but doesn't have the personality or drama to put him there. Jamie(RW:New Orleans) won 3 challenges, Darrell won 4 challenges, what makes Landon so special? The only challenge that he was clearly the best competitor on was the Duel 2. If Darrell was in the finals of Fresh Meat 2, it may have been a different out come.
[QUOTE]And Paula an honorable mention? I like Paula and think she's a good competitor but I'd have to disagree...And even though I LOVE Ayanna and Piggy, I don't think they'd be honorable mentions either...or Holly, for that matter. Or Robin. Or even Jenn. I'd also switch out Rachel with Tina and Evelyn with maybe Tonya or Katie.[/QUOTE]
Paula has the personality and drama, that's why she has done as many challenges as she did. As for Ayanna and Piggy, both had the personality and drama, they made the show twice as entertaining when they were on. Robin has the drama, but i agree about Jenn i'll remove her. And as for switching Rachel with Tina, she didn't have the personality and drama of a Tina, Tina is the second biggest ****** in challenge history, only Coral was worse. Ev is a great competitor, but Tonya and Katie are straight drama queens and came before her. A fresh Meat person should not get too much consideration anyways.
[QUOTE=Superboy;228656]Alton a top 5? Sorry, but he was too one dimensional. Theo V actually outperformed him on the Gauntlet 1 overall(5 to 3 in the missions, or 6 to 3 depending on who got out of snake soup first....Alton is shown first, but it could of been editing). Landon is also one dimensional, and is actually inferior to Alton in terms of physical prowess.....but i understand he won a lot so people overrate him too.[/QUOTE]
Did you not watch Alton in Inferno 3? I can't see Landon ever punking out the way Alton did throughout that show. And you can't really rate their full physical prowess when not all of the challenges were athletic and they weren't competing side-by-side.
Well, on the Gauntlet 2 Alton easily outperformed Landon overall and I remember at the very beginning when they were choosing Captains Alton slung Landon into the water with ease.... Landon was one of the first to go. I know you can't really say who's the best based on one Challenge alone, but still I thought I'd just say that Alton was clearly better than Landon on the Gauntlet 2. And yes, Alton did perform below average on The Inferno 3.
[QUOTE]Did you not watch Alton in Inferno 3? I can't see Landon ever punking out the way Alton did throughout that show.[/QUOTE]
That's another reason why Alton isn't top 5, that challenge really exposed him.
[QUOTE] And you can't really rate their full physical prowess when not all of the challenges were athletic and they weren't competing side-by-side.[/QUOTE]
Alton and Landon were teammates on the Gauntlet 2 and Landon even said the number one person the Rookies needed was Alton. Alton is purely the most athlete person to compete on a challenge, only Chadwick comes close.
[QUOTE=Superboy;228680]That's another reason why Alton isn't top 5, that challenge really exposed him.
Alton and Landon were teammates on the Gauntlet 2 and Landon even said the number one person the Rookies needed was Alton. Alton is purely the most athlete person to compete on a challenge, only Chadwick comes close.[/QUOTE]
But from how he carries himself on the show or at least the way he's always edited to be the good guy, can you see Landon saying, "Yeah, I'm the best on this team"? Landon's performed on every challenge.
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