[QUOTE=jbo29j;221123]Soccer can be played by two people rugby really cant be so how would they put that in the final? Also the reason that swimming was used more in the first duel may have something to do with the weather, [B]im pretty sure they filmed the duel 2 during the winter[/B] where the duel was a summer challenge. Not everything has to be a conspiracy.[/QUOTE]
Technically, the Duel 2 was a spring/summer challenge...the weather in New Zealand is just much cooler than Brazil.
I guess this is just by from what we know on the challenges. I'm sure these people have been with other cast members off the show...
Veronica: Eric (new york), Rachel, Abram, Brad
Rachel: Aneesa, Veronica, Jenn, Abram, Darrell
Theo: Coral, Sarah, Linette, Tonya
Mark: Kit, Robin, Jodi, Tonya
Miz: Tara, Trishelle, Kendal, Jodi
Tonya: Theo, Ace, Mark, Derrick
Trishelle: Eric (campus crawl), Steven, Mike, Adam
Derrick: Jodi, Tonya, Diem, Aneesa
Brad: Cameran, Jamie, Veronica, Arissa, Tori
Jodi: Derrick, Adam, Mark
Robin: Mark, Kenny, Evan
Wes: Melinda, Johanna, Kellyanne, Theresa
feel free to add more if you know of any others.
[QUOTE=yankeegurl93;221129]Wes/Melinda!? Veronica/Brad?![/QUOTE]
Wes and Melinda made out while they were on Austin, Veronica and Brad made out at a club while on Battle of the Sexes 2. It was pretty obvious what they were doing but they managed to back away before the cameras caught them. Veronica confirms she hooked up with Brad on one of the after shows Blair hosted.
[QUOTE=RubenJay05;221128]I guess this is just by from what we know on the challenges. I'm sure these people have been with other cast members off the show...
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You're going to have to clarify "been with", because when you say "been with", I think of ***. I also don't classify a make out as a hook up.
This subject is a bit touchy, as everyone has different opinions as to what "hook up" means.
[QUOTE=molds13;221133]Not to mention, if we were including make outs in here, the list would be a **** of a lot longer because everyone has made out with everyone...[/QUOTE]
Exactly, you could probably put anyone who has done a challenge with her under "Paula". She makes out with literally everyone.
I know on the hook up chart that MTV put out they had Kenny and Jenn as speculative. Was that from Inferno 3? (it's the only post-Gauntlet 2 challenge I haven't seen) I also remember on one of the FM2 online exclusives when talking about Pete and Jenn he was like "Yeah I can't blame Pete for that...I used to bark up that tree once too"
I know his other ones are Robin, Trisha (my personal favorite), Johanna, Kellyanne, and Shauvon (big ***** doesn't mean she's hot Kenny).
[QUOTE=yankeegurl93;221134]Exactly, you could probably put anyone who has done a challenge with her under "Paula". She makes out with literally everyone.[/QUOTE]
Hahaha let's save some time and make a shorter list of people she [I]hasn't[/I] made out with.
[QUOTE=RubenJay05;221131]Wes and Melinda made out while they were on Austin, Veronica and Brad made out at a club while on Battle of the Sexes 2. It was pretty obvious what they were doing but they managed to back away before the cameras caught them. Veronica confirms she hooked up with Brad on one of the after shows Blair hosted.[/QUOTE]
Wes and Melinda!?? ***!? you mean Johanna and Dany, they made out on the 2nd episode I guess.
When I was in NZ, in July their weather was in the 50's and it was their winter.
I'm almost positive that they were in NZ during their Spring, I might be wrong though.
[QUOTE=JL81790;221135]I know on the hook up chart that MTV put out they had Kenny and Jenn as speculative. Was that from Inferno 3? (it's the only post-Gauntlet 2 challenge I haven't seen) I also remember on one of the FM2 online exclusives when talking about Pete and Jenn he was like "Yeah I can't blame Pete for that...I used to bark up that tree once too"
I know his other ones are Robin, Trisha (my personal favorite), Johanna, Kellyanne, and Shauvon (big ***** doesn't mean she's hot Kenny).[/QUOTE]
Trisha is my favorite too, haha they're still good friends though. What happened with him and KellyAnne?
I'm pretty sure Blair has hooked up with Veronica, Jodi, Kendal, and Tonya, at least. But I don't know what they did or any of that nonsense.
and CT and Mallory hooked up? I find that really hard to believe considering how shy Mallory was about her relationship with Ace during their season.
[QUOTE=RubenJay05;221128]I guess this is just by from what we know on the challenges. I'm sure these people have been with other cast members off the show...
Veronica: Eric (new york), Rachel, Abram, Brad
Rachel: Aneesa, Veronica, Jenn, Abram, Darrell
Theo: Coral, Sarah, Linette, Tonya
Mark: Kit, Robin, Jodi, Tonya
Miz: Tara, Trishelle, Kendal, Jodi
Tonya: Theo, Ace, Mark, Derrick
Trishelle: Eric (campus crawl), Steven, Mike, Adam
Derrick: Jodi, Tonya, Diem, Aneesa
Brad: Cameran, Jamie, Veronica, Arissa, Tori
Jodi: Derrick, Adam, Mark
Robin: Mark, Kenny, Evan
Wes: Melinda, Johanna, Kellyanne, Theresa
feel free to add more if you know of any others.[/QUOTE]
Robin and Cameran Made out in San Diego.
[QUOTE=Henry;221142]Wes and Melinda!?? ***!? you mean Johanna and Dany, they made out on the 2nd episode I guess.[/QUOTE]
Wes and Melinda made out later in that season on a dare or something. I wouldn't consider either anything though.
You could put Tonya and Davis down as well since that was is less of a stretch.
Also Jamie (NO) and Cara Z
[QUOTE=molds13;221132]You're going to have to clarify "been with", because when you say "been with", I think of ***. I also don't classify a make out as a hook up.
This subject is a bit touchy, as everyone has different opinions as to what "hook up" means.[/QUOTE]
That's why I avoided that one altogether. Though with some of these alleged pairs being thrown out there, I could use some background info, because a lot of them make absolutely no sense and I don't remember ever seeing or hearing about a few of these.
[QUOTE=molds13;221149]San Diego was not a challenge, it was a season of the Real World.[/QUOTE]
I was just adding to the list, and the hook ups on the list are not all from the challenges.
[QUOTE=RuffBuff;221152]I was just adding to the list, and the hook ups on the list are not all from the challenges.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but it wasn't a hookup. They made out.
[QUOTE=molds13;221132]You're going to have to clarify "been with", because when you say "been with", I think of ***. I also don't classify a make out as a hook up.
This subject is a bit touchy, as everyone has different opinions as to what "hook up" means.[/QUOTE]
I'd take hooking up to mean more than just making out and pulling tongue, but not exclusively ***.
[QUOTE=JL81790;221135]I know on the hook up chart that MTV put out they had Kenny and Jenn as speculative. Was that from Inferno 3? (it's the only post-Gauntlet 2 challenge I haven't seen) I also remember on one of the FM2 online exclusives when talking about Pete and Jenn he was like "Yeah I can't blame Pete for that...I used to bark up that tree once too"
I know his other ones are Robin, Trisha (my personal favorite), Johanna, Kellyanne, and Shauvon (big ***** doesn't mean she's hot Kenny).[/QUOTE]
I remember seeing on a daily or something from, I think, The Duel 2, where Jenn said in no uncertain terms that nothing ever happened with Kenny and he never got in her pants, even though he apparently claimed he had. Rachel was in the clip, too.
[QUOTE=The Beast;221115]If you honestly believe that having a swimming background wasn't an advantage in that event I don't know what to tell you.
That's fine its a national sport, props to the country. That still has nothing to do with the final challenge. When in the history of finals has there been a 1 on 1 lets play the national sport part? It just came out of nowhere.
Duel 2 the national sport was rugby. They used that for the first challenge. Makes a lot more sense than chucking it into the final because it gives a huge advantage for one challenger over another.
I'm not entirely sure the challenges are predetermined. They're constantly trying to find ways to increase the ratings(Look how many times they've used CT for promotion and they promised a midseason twist which is completely false). It's not a stretch for me to think that they would as the season dwindles base a challenge that they think will draw in the most ratings
They knew CT would smoke brad or Wes and it just seemed like they tilted the challenge in a way that would put CT in the best position to be eliminated. Obviously it was his fault DQ'd in push me but the events leading up to it were sketchy to me.[/QUOTE]
But then by that account, wouldn't Landon have an unfair advantage in pretty much any physical challenge, since he bikes, runs and is a beast? Several of the cast have athletic backgrounds. CJ was or is an NFL kicker. Dunbar played college ball, I think. There was biking in The Duel 2, I believe, so does that mean it was rigged to give Landon the advantage? I think even if a particular challenge does favor one or the another, there are other factors involved that even the odds out a bit more to give everyone a chance. Or the majority a chance, as it is.
[QUOTE=llcooljonas;221161]I'd take hooking up to mean more than just making out and pulling tongue, but not exclusively sex.[/QUOTE]
That's how I look at the term "hookup" too, but if someone says they have "been with" someone else, I take it to mean that they have slept together.
[QUOTE=jbo29j;221123]Soccer can be played by two people rugby really cant be so how would they put that in the final? Also the reason that swimming was used more in the first duel may have something to do with the weather, im pretty sure they filmed the duel 2 during the winter where the duel was a summer challenge. Not everything has to be a conspiracy.[/QUOTE]
Soccer is a team sport. Rugby is a team sport. You can certainly play rugby 1 on 1, but its out of its element.
[QUOTE=llcooljonas;221165]But then by that account, wouldn't Landon have an unfair advantage in pretty much any physical challenge, since he bikes, runs and is a beast? Several of the cast have athletic backgrounds. CJ was or is an NFL kicker. Dunbar played college ball, I think. There was biking in The Duel 2, I believe, so does that mean it was rigged to give Landon the advantage? I think even if a particular challenge does favor one or the another, there are other factors involved that even the odds out a bit more to give everyone a chance. Or the majority a chance, as it is.[/QUOTE]
Look at the trend of challenges and what they consist of. They've always been physical, endurance based, and they've always been on land. Water? Not so much. If they had two water-based challenges planned that's fine. However, the probability that they had two predetermined water challenges and both challenges happened to be the the last two events is extremely low. And it just so happened that a dude that really hasn't done **** but ran his mouth and is a good swimmer happens to be in the last two events. Something has got to give
[QUOTE=molds13;221157]Yes, but it wasn't a hookup. They made out.[/QUOTE]
I was just adding to the list, on that list were also people who just made out and thats it. And thats who i added, two girls who made out.
Bananas posted this on Twitter and I have to toss it out there. Toyota commercial with Theresa, Bananas and Jenn about anti-texting. Jenn in the backseat is absofreaking adorable.
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[QUOTE=The Beast;221176]Soccer is a team sport. Rugby is a team sport. You can certainly play rugby 1 on 1, but its out of its element.
Look at the trend of challenges and what they consist of. They've always been physical, endurance based, and they've always been on land. Water? Not so much. If they had two water-based challenges planned that's fine. However, the probability that they had two predetermined water challenges and both challenges happened to be the the last two events is extremely low. And it just so happened that a dude that really hasn't done **** but ran his mouth and is a good swimmer happens to be in the last two events. Something has got to give[/QUOTE]
Here are the challenges from the Duel. I went on wikipedia. The ones that took place on land are normal, the ones that took place over the water (not on land) are underlined, and the ones that had a swimming element to it are bolded.
Reaching Out
[B]Ring Toss[/B]
[U]Pass With Care[/U]
Roller Derby
[U]Push Over[/U]
[U]Flying Leap[/U]
[B]Russian Swing[/B]
[B]Rafty Race[/B]
Pole Dance
Dine-N-Dash
Stacking Stairs
Ice Breakers
[B]Sunken Treasure[/B]
Around The Block
[B]Paddle Me[/B]
As you can see, many of the challenges were based in the water, not just the last 2 Male Duel day challenges. And think about this, there is a reason why the first challenges were first and the last challenges were last. You can't do Sunken Treasure or Paddle Me with 20 competitors. Sunken Treasure would just take too long and Paddle Me would be too crowded. Think about what it would have been like if 10 seperate surf boards were trying to get to the Island. Challenges like Ring Toss and Pass With Care can be done with many people because they are technically quick challenges. Basically, the challenges are predetermined because it would be stupid to freestyle or randomize the challenge order. That's called not being organized which can lead to problems. And why are you insisting that BMP wanted Wes to win? What's so good about him? Who said that CT would have picked Push Me and gotten disqualified. Who said that if CT did go to the final, he would have won? Wes would have probably gotten the 2 minute head start over CT anyway. And last but certainly not least. Who said that The Duel would have lost ratings if it was CT vs. Brad/Wes in the final? Who would watch the whole season and then all of a sudden decide not to watch the last episode just because CT was in the final. Think about what you're saying dude.
High Definition makes everybody less attractive. It's too clear and we can see all their imperfections on their faces. I liked it before where..there was more to the imagination.
FM2 head start involved a canoe. You could start a conspiracy theory that production wanted Landon and Laurel to win because they are used to kayaking while Jenn, Noor, Pete and Jill don't.
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