[QUOTE=rey2pokey;164982]So which FM do you think may be challenge regulars?[/QUOTE]
Not sure but most of the Fresh Meat seem alright as of now and I know thats gonna change probably after the first episode but here are some of the ones I wanna see on more than one challenge.
1. Cara Maria - she's uhhh very attractive
2. Noor - Seems like a cool dude that can hold his own competition wise, not really much to go by, but still.
3. Aviv - I know she's from FM1 but she wins Fresh Meat with Darrell and we haven't seen her since
Aviv? who's that jk Does anybody know the story behind why we haven't seen her. She would have been a great addition to the Champions team on the Ruins.
[QUOTE=Adrian!!!!!!;164994]Not sure but most of the Fresh Meat seem alright as of now and I know thats gonna change probably after the first episode but here are some of the ones I wanna see on more than one challenge.
1. Cara Maria - she's uhhh very attractive
2. Noor - Seems like a cool dude that can hold his own competition wise, not really much to go by, but still.
3. Aviv - I know she's from FM1 but she wins Fresh Meat with Darrell and we haven't seen her since[/QUOTE]
I've interacted with Noor a litle bit. He does seem like a very cool guy. I am def looking forward to seeing more of him.
[QUOTE=tjhallow;164954]Is that a joke, its clear that Brad got lucky. CT got DQed and [U][B]Landon would have won if he got the ring on the hook[/B][/U]. Lando threw him around like a rag doll. Please tell me you are joking.
CT and Landon SMOKED Brad.[/QUOTE]
Are you kidding with that statement? You realize that's the same as saying that Julie would've won against Tonya in I2 if she had gotten more patches than Tonya did? Obviously Julie would've won if she had gotten more patches than Tonya and Landon would've won if he had gotten the ring on the hook. And what does that say? Absolutely nothing at all because that's [B]not[/B] how things went down. That reminds me of an old Puertorrican saying that says "if my grandma had wheels she'd be a bycicle". Landon [B]did not[/B] get the ring on the hook and therefore Brad won fair and square. End of story.
And Landon didn't throw Brad around like a rag doll. He made a fool of himself by tackling Brad and holding him out of frustration because he knew that as soon as he let go of Brad he would put the ring on the hook right away since they were near Brad's hook. For holding Brad like he did is that he lost that first point. To say that Landon threw Brad around like a rag doll when obviously that wasn't a wrestling match it's not the best way to showcase his skills.
[QUOTE=Dannyboy;165003]Are you kidding with that statement? You realize that's the same as saying that Julie would've won against Tonya in I2 if she had gotten more patches than Tonya did? Obviously Julie would've won if she had gotten more patches than Tonya and Landon would've won if he had gotten the ring on the hook. And what does that say? Absolutely nothing at all because that's [B]not[/B] how things went down. That reminds me of an old Puertorrican saying that says "if my grandma had wheels she'd be a bycicle". Landon [B]did not[/B] get the ring on the hook and therefore Brad won fair and square. End of story.
And Landon didn't throw Brad around like a rag doll. He made a fool of himself by tackling Brad and holding him out of frustration because he knew that as soon as he let go of Brad he would put the ring on the hook right away since they were near Brad's hook. For holding Brad like he did it's that he lost that first point. To say that Landon threw Brad around like a rag doll when obviously that wasn't a wrestling match it's not the best way to showcase his skills.[/QUOTE]
LOL, if you say so.
You know what I hate? When in an argument someone says "end of story" as if it's really going to stop. No, it is not end of story cause it can be argued forever. So, I'm going to start saying "end of story". Landon threw Brad around like a rag doll just like CT whooped Brad, end of story. Brad won out of luck, end of story. Wes sucks, end of story. Wes is not as good as people think he is, end of story. Brad isn't as good as people say, end of story. He has never done amazing and he has never been the winner of anything, end of story. Is that the end of the story though? No because someone is going to come back and disagree with me so let the debate continue... end of story.
[QUOTE=faceless;165013]You know what I hate? When in an argument someone says "end of story" as if it's really going to stop. No, it is not end of story cause it can be argued forever. So, I'm going to start saying "end of story". Landon threw Brad around like a rag doll just like CT whooped Brad, end of story. Brad won out of luck, end of story. Wes sucks, end of story. Wes is not as good as people think he is, end of story. Brad isn't as good as people say, end of story. He has never done amazing and he has never been the winner of anything, end of story. Is that the end of the story though? No because someone is going to come back and disagree with me so let the debate continue... end of story.[/QUOTE]
****...sorry, mary has given the giggles today.
[QUOTE=faceless;165013]You know what I hate? When in an argument someone says "end of story" as if it's really going to stop. No, it is not end of story cause it can be argued forever. So, I'm going to start saying "end of story". Landon threw Brad around like a rag doll just like CT whooped Brad, end of story. Brad won out of luck, end of story. Wes sucks, end of story. Wes is not as good as people think he is, end of story. Brad isn't as good as people say, end of story. He has never done amazing and he has never been the winner of anything, end of story. Is that the end of the story though? No because someone is going to come back and disagree with me so let the debate continue... end of story.[/QUOTE]
One word.... EPIC !! Wow Faceless and TJ FTW on Tomb 2. I mean is there even any reason for the others to show up ?
[QUOTE=faceless;165013]You know what I hate? When in an argument someone says "end of story" as if it's really going to stop. No, it is not end of story cause it can be argued forever. So, I'm going to start saying "end of story". Landon threw Brad around like a rag doll just like CT whooped Brad, end of story. Brad won out of luck, end of story. Wes sucks, end of story. Wes is not as good as people think he is, end of story. Brad isn't as good as people say, end of story. He has never done amazing and he has never been the winner of anything, end of story. Is that the end of the story though? No because someone is going to come back and disagree with me so let the debate continue... end of story.[/QUOTE]
I think you need to re-read very carefully my post. I said end of story right after I stated a [B]fact[/B]. I mean, if someone wants to say that Brad didn't win that duel and that therefore to say that Brad won it's not conclusive by all means go ahead and do so, but I think that facts are a bit hard to argue against. At least that's not the type of argument that I personally like to engage in because I find it silly. But ya, the main difference between all the examples that you're giving is that those are all your personal appreciations as opposed to what I mentioned which was a fact, and I'll go ahead and say it again: Landon did not put the ring on the hook and therefore Brad won, end of story. But then again, I think you simply misinterpreted my post. Just re-read it.
[QUOTE=Adrian!!!!!!;165021]One word.... EPIC !! Wow Faceless and TJ FTW on Tomb 2. I mean is there even any reason for the others to show up ?[/QUOTE]
I love this.
[QUOTE=Dannyboy;165033]I think you need to re-read very carefully my post. I said end of story right after I stated a [B]fact[/B]. I mean, if someone wants to say that Brad didn't win that duel and that therefore to say that Brad won it's not conclusive by all means go ahead and do so, but I think that facts are a bit hard to argue against. At least that's not the type of argument that I personally like to engage in because I find it silly. But ya, the main difference between all the examples that you're giving is that those are all your personal appreciations as opposed to what I mentioned which was a fact, and I'll go ahead and say it again: Landon did not put the ring on the hook and therefore Brad won, end of story. But then again, I think you simply misinterpreted my post. Just re-read it.[/QUOTE]
Hey, I can do what you do so check this out. Landon wrestled Brad because that is what the rules stated: Wrestle the hook away from your opponent, stop them from getting your hook, and hook their hook to your ring. If Landon got a dq for not going after Brad's hook how come Brad didn't get a dq for going after Landon's ring rather then his own? The [B]facts[/B] are that Landon got dq'd for doing what he felt was needed but Brad didn't, end of story. I feel that Brad won that duel unfairly, just like how he did against CT and Svetlana did against Beth in the previous duel, end of story. [B]Fact[/B] is, Brad has been severely lucky. He's smart to team himself with strong allies but [B]fact[/B] is, he doesn't have what it takes to win, especially with strong competition, end of story.
Hey guys my favorite time of the year in sports is March Madness (college basketball), and it got me thinking maybe we should make some kind of little tournament with all of the memorable moments from all the challenges going against each other like say Katie and Veronica fight vs. Wes going nuts on his team on The Ruins and let people vote which is the best and whichever wins goes on to the next round and so on and so forth or maybe a tournament of memorable quotes from the Challenges. Seem like it would be fun.
[QUOTE=faceless;165040]Hey, I can do what you do so check this out. Landon wrestled Brad because that is what the rules stated: Wrestle the hook away from your opponent, stop them from getting your hook, and hook their hook to your ring. If Landon got a dq for not going after Brad's hook how come Brad didn't get a dq for going after Landon's ring rather then his own? The [B]facts[/B] are that Landon got dq'd for doing what he felt was needed but Brad didn't, end of story. I feel that Brad won that duel unfairly, just like how he did against CT and Svetlana did against Beth in the previous duel, end of story. [B]Fact[/B] is, Brad has been severely lucky. He's smart to team himself with strong allies but [B]fact[/B] is, he doesn't have what it takes to win, especially with strong competition, end of story.[/QUOTE]
To say that someone won a 1on1 unfairly is never conclusive, that is not a fact, that's an opinion, so once again your use of "end of the story" is incorrect. I mean, you can use it whenever you want to but if you're somehow mocking my use of that phrase I must point out to you that I used it in reference to a fact, and that's [B]not[/B] how you're using the phrase.
As far as the rules for that duel goes, I remember TJ clearly stating that once you had the ring u had to run for the hook and Landon didn't do that, he had the ring and he stayed there tackling and holding Brad to prevent him from running to his hook (as you stated, the rules were to wrestle the ring away from your opponent, not to tackle and hold your opponent once you already had the ring). Based on the rules, Landon's DQ was fair because he had the ring and didn't run for his hook. (Notice how I don't say "end of story" here since this is only my opinion ;)).
[QUOTE=Dannyboy;165054]To say that someone won a 1on1 unfairly is never conclusive, that is not a fact, that's an opinion, so once again your use of "end of the story" is incorrect. I mean, you can use it whenever you want to but if you're somehow mocking my use of that phrase I must point out to you that I used it in reference to a fact, and that's [B]not[/B] how you're using the phrase.
As far as the rules for that duel goes, I remember TJ clearly stating that once you had the ring u had to run for the hook and Landon didn't do that, he had the ring and he stayed there tackling and holding Brad to prevent him from running to his hook (as you stated, the rules were to wrestle the ring away from your opponent, not to tackle and hold your opponent once you already had the ring). Based on the rules, Landon's DQ was fair because he had the ring and didn't run for his hook. (Notice how I don't say "end of story" here since this is only my opinion ;).[/QUOTE]
Okay, you said that once someone had the ring they had to run to their hook and hook it. Then how is it fair Brad ran to Landon hook and f***ed with it before going to his? I say that Landon pinning Brad = Brad ****** slapping Landon's hook. [B]Fact[/B], end of story.
[QUOTE=faceless;165058]Okay, you said that once someone had the ring they had to run to their hook and hook it. Then how is it fair Brad ran to Landon hook and f***ed with it before going to his? I say that Landon pinning Brad = Brad ****** slapping Landon's hook. [B]Fact[/B], end of story.[/QUOTE]
I agree with Faceless on this.
[QUOTE=faceless;165058]Okay, you said that once someone had the ring they had to run to their hook and hook it. Then how is it fair Brad ran to Landon hook and f***ed with it before going to his? I say that Landon pinning Brad = Brad ****** slapping Landon's hook. [B]Fact[/B], end of story.[/QUOTE]
You said before that Landon did what he felt he had to do in order to win right? Then I guess Brad also did what he felt he needed to do in order to win. What's the difference? That Brad's strategy worked and Landon's didn't. End of story.
[QUOTE=Dannyboy;165064]You said before that Landon did what he felt he had to do in order to win right? Then I guess Brad also did what he felt he needed to do in order to win. What's the difference? That Brad's strategy worked and Landon's didn't. End of story.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, why is it okay for Brad to go after something that wasn't his ring after he had Landon's hook but it isn't for Landon? Fact is is that it was unfair. I'm not going to call the show rigged but had Landon been given a fair chance, he would have walked away with the win, easily.
[QUOTE=faceless;165066]Exactly, why is it okay for Brad to go after something that wasn't his ring after he had Landon's hook but it isn't for Landon? Fact is is that it was unfair. I'm not going to call the show rigged but had Landon been given a fair chance, he would have walked away with the win, easily.[/QUOTE]
Well I didn't make that call, I don't know what was exactly stated in the rules and I don't think anyone here has that information either so all we can do is speculate. Perhaps the difference is that Brad didn't take that long to run for his hook once he already had the ring? Landon didn't even run for his hook. TJ had to intervene so they could start all over again. TJ gave Landon a warning and he stayed there holding Brad regardless. When TJ gave Brad same warning he immediately ran for his hook. Maybe that was the difference? Maybe once you were given a fair warning and you ignored it and didn't run for your hook u then would get dq'd? I'm sure that if Brad had taken just a few seconds longer after TJ told him to go for his hook he would've dq'd too.
I still don't understand why Landon was penalized for suplexing Brad away from his hook. I mean if Kim is allowed to wait patiently for Ruthie to come towards her ring, then why is this any different? The way the rules were made, it seems in their best interest to just stand still and not move at all....because if that's the case then you don't want to move away from your ring AT ALL, otherwise risking a really long and slow trip back to your ring to clip it on. I just think the whole thing is stupid, really...I think it would've been a more logical approach if both players had shared one ring placed in the center of the arena, that way you don't have to worry about blatant distance disadvantages.
Why didn't Brad do something to get Casey off his team? I don't know, oh wait, cause they won what, one challenge? I love how it went from Wes to Brad. Faceless, you can't say end of story, then re open it up with all your biased opinions. Here's the facts. No one in here thinks Wes is a God. Me and Dannyboy agree he's top 10. To you guys, you think we're saying he's number one. I've already agreed with you guys on the bad qualities in Wes and Brad. Still you guys downgrade them like they're Alexs from RW Denver. Adrian, I think we're sort of on the same page now. Good to know that. Did you win your gambling bet?
[QUOTE=r3iKo;165087][B]Why didn't Brad do something to get Casey off his team? I don't know, oh wait, cause they won what, one challenge?[/B] I love how it went from Wes to Brad. Faceless, you can't say end of story, then re open it up with all your biased opinions. Here's the facts. No one in here thinks Wes is a God. Me and Dannyboy agree he's top 10. To you guys, you think we're saying he's number one. I've already agreed with you guys on the bad qualities in Wes and Brad. Still you guys downgrade them like they're Alexs from RW Denver. Adrian, I think we're sort of on the same page now. Good to know that. Did you win your gambling bet?[/QUOTE]
That one challenge that they won is when Brad should've got Casey off his team, and it was a team decision, but Brad was basically the leader and he had the chance but didn't go for her, so oh well. I just don't see the logic in sending in Brianna, I believe it was ?
[QUOTE=r3iKo;165087]Why didn't Brad do something to get Casey off his team? I don't know, oh wait, cause they won what, one challenge? I love how it went from Wes to Brad. Faceless, you can't say end of story, then re open it up with all your biased opinions. Here's the facts. No one in here thinks Wes is a God. Me and Dannyboy agree he's top 10. To you guys, you think we're saying he's number one. I've already agreed with you guys on the bad qualities in Wes and Brad. Still you guys downgrade them like they're Alexs from RW Denver. Adrian, I think we're sort of on the same page now. Good to know that. Did you win your gambling bet?[/QUOTE]
My opinion on Brad isn't biased because I actually like Brad. I wanted him to win on Duel 2 despite knowing he wouldn't. I was mocking people who say end of story when the story really isn't over, that's why I was saying that. Regardless of me liking Wes or not I don't think he is a top 10 player and that makes me biased? Just because my opinion differs from yours? Brad and his team had a chance to get rid of Casey but they didn't take that chance. They messed up and that is as much as Brad's fault as it is everyone else on his team. You need to get over all this biased **** because opinions are always biased and they will never not be. Brad is pretty good, not the best and not top 10 but he's good. It feels like if I disagree with you it's cause I'm biased. Well maybe I can say you're biased, but I haven't because that's like a cop out.
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