The Challenge: All Stars 4- Episode Discussion Thread

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The editors were so messy for including that scene of Ryan& Derek laughing at Brads morning wood while he was sleeping lol 

LMAO I did not notice that until someone on Twitter pointed it out. They must've paid real close attention to notice lol

The editors were so messy for including that scene of Ryan& Derek laughing at Brads morning wood while he was sleeping lol 

Messy but it's fun little Clips like that that make All Stars different from the main show. 

Lmaooo the gays were definitely peeping 

Always ready for some peen

You can't even see the bulge people are talking about. I would've laughed too

Always ready for some peen

Ok wth is your pfp.

 

Always ready for some peen

Ok wth is your pfp.

not too much I can ask you the same pooh 

You can't even see the bulge people are talking about. I would've laughed too

how could you not see it?  The entire shaft was off to one side hard. 

 

 

Always ready for some peen

Ok wth is your pfp.

not too much I can ask you the same pooh 

If ya ear was to streets you'd know!

 

Yeah but Cara wasn't upset at Averey or Flora (the latter apparently did defend her), so no need to make new enemies.

It's also not about stealing a star necessarily -- Jasmine is a good choice because if she ends up in an elim, likely a strong girl in the winner's group would want an easy star and go down against her, thus getting Jasmine out. It's strategy mixed with revenge. 

On Jasmine and Derek, according to Jemmye's recent recap, they're friends but they wouldn't ride for each other more than others. 

Yeah but getting a star isnt inherently bad. If im Averey or Flora im not mad if I receive a star from

Cara in this instance. & Yeah thats why I said its alot of moving parts, Jasmine was able to make this moved based on the fact that she wasnt in the bottom group & Just because someone has a star that doesnt mean that they are 100% destined to go into elimination, especially since you can beat anyone and steal a star unless they are the daily winner.

 

You can't even see the bulge people are talking about. I would've laughed too

how could you not see it?  The entire shaft was off to one side hard. 

Maybe it gotta poke me in the eye I really didn't notice it.

I'm not gonna lie, I didnt notice it when I watched but I was also getting ready for work. But you definitely see it in the screenshots lol

https://x.com/kennaymart/status/1783395635322110340?s=46

 

Imo Kam and Cara both kinda missed the mark on who Cara shouldve gave her extra star to. This format has alot of moving parts and there needs to be alot of things in alignment to get another Cara vs Rachel type of mattchup, they lucky they got a heavy hitter mattchup so early. Imo the smartest thing to do wouldve been to give it to someone with less connections like Averey or Flora, with hopes that their star would get stolen before Cara's. Even tho Jasmine is harmless she seems to have friends this season, idk I could see certain people stealing Cara star before Jasmine.

Speaking of which does anyone know Jasmine and Dereks relationship? have they interacted?

Yeah but Cara wasn't upset at Averey or Flora (the latter apparently did defend her), so no need to make new enemies.

It's also not about stealing a star necessarily -- Jasmine is a good choice because if she ends up in an elim, likely a strong girl in the winner's group would want an easy star and go down against her, thus getting Jasmine out. It's strategy mixed with revenge. 

On Jasmine and Derek, according to Jemmye's recent recap, they're friends but they wouldn't ride for each other more than others. 

Averey and Flora wouldn't have to be made at her for it. People want stars. Averey even already had one. Cara could have given one of them the star to try and build a relationship with them. She also could have given it to Tina since she beat Rachel who had taken Tina's star. There were lots of options. I like her giving it to Jasmine just because it's good TV drama, but it doesn't really help Cara in the game.

I'm not gonna lie, I didnt notice it when I watched but I was also getting ready for work. But you definitely see it in the screenshots lol

https://x.com/kennaymart/status/1783395635322110340?s=46

Ok because that escaped me during the episode. LMAO.

Averey and Flora wouldn't have to be made at her for it. People want stars. Averey even already had one. Cara could have given one of them the star to try and build a relationship with them. She also could have given it to Tina since she beat Rachel who had taken Tina's star. There were lots of options. I like her giving it to Jasmine just because it's good TV drama, but it doesn't really help Cara in the game.

Not saying they'd be mad, but why would they then work with one of the strongest girls? Rachel it makes sense because strong girls can protect each other, but the 3 you mentioned will still see Cara as a big threat and none of them will have her back over others first.  And yeah, everyone wants stars but this early in, it's hard to keep them as we've seen, so 

It does help her in the game in the sense that she wants someone targeted who she thought has her back but that has already taken a shot at her. It's really that simple to her. Weeding out someone who already said your name is survival 101. 

 

Yeah but getting a star isnt inherently bad. If im Averey or Flora im not mad if I receive a star from

Cara in this instance. & Yeah thats why I said its alot of moving parts, Jasmine was able to make this moved based on the fact that she wasnt in the bottom group & Just because someone has a star that doesnt mean that they are 100% destined to go into elimination, especially since you can beat anyone and steal a star unless they are the daily winner.

Yeah it's not inherently bad, but it does make people targets. I understand Cara wanting to weaponize it in a way. 

Stars don't mean they'll go in, sure, but if they do -- who would Laurel or Nicole rather go against in an elim, Cara or Jasmine, if given the opportunity? It's going to be Jasmine. Esp if someone volunteers to go into elim, they'd just win her star and wouldn't have to steal anyone elses, thus not ******* anyone off there. Jasmine was already a bit of a target as arguably the weakest or second weakest woman there (idk Flora's capabilites) but Jasmine was always going to be looked at as an easy out if needed and giving her a star just puts more focus on that.

I absolutely agree giving the star to Avery, Flora, or even Tina would have worked as well for Cara, but Jasmine getting is good for her from both a strategy sense and she gets her revenge. She's always been more focused on the latter, often to her detriment, but idk about it this time. 

All that being said -- and lbr I shouldn't have wrote a dissertation on here lol -- I'm not sure it matters that much in the longer run cause Cara will still have Kam after her *** regardless and Jasmine is always been destined to be a mid-season boot. 

Honestly if I was a star holder I would want the overall weakest players up there with me holding onto the stars - it's a game show for money, it would be for sure bet to win. Like it makes the final a little more boring to watch but as a player it makes the most sense. 

Ryan Kehoe posted that Cara was 100% blindsided with Brandon's vote (was that ever in doubt though?) and said he's Team Cara and Rachel (which we knew).

I'm still annoyed with that elimination they did. Two of arguably the best women to ever be on this show and they give them that? They could have removed that set and just thrown a ring on the sand and call it a day. It's past the point of not giving a **** they just don't know what they're doing. 

Ryan Kehoe posted that Cara was 100% blindsided with Brandon's vote (was that ever in doubt though?) and said he's Team Cara and Rachel (which we knew).

in the episode u can hear him say something along the lines of "told you so" when brandon reveals that he voted her.

I'm still annoyed with that elimination they did. Two of arguably the best women to ever be on this show and they give them that? They could have removed that set and just thrown a ring on the sand and call it a day. It's past the point of not giving a **** they just don't know what they're doing. 

Who wins in a pole wrestle between the two?

 

I'm still annoyed with that elimination they did. Two of arguably the best women to ever be on this show and they give them that? They could have removed that set and just thrown a ring on the sand and call it a day. It's past the point of not giving a **** they just don't know what they're doing. 

Who wins in a pole wrestle between the two?

Honestly I feel like Cara does she seems stronger plus the experience 

 

 

I'm still annoyed with that elimination they did. Two of arguably the best women to ever be on this show and they give them that? They could have removed that set and just thrown a ring on the sand and call it a day. It's past the point of not giving a **** they just don't know what they're doing. 

Who wins in a pole wrestle between the two?

Honestly I feel like Cara does she seems stronger plus the experience 

I hate to say it.....but I think Cara beats Rachel in this one

I just dont know..

 

Ryan Kehoe posted that Cara was 100% blindsided with Brandon's vote (was that ever in doubt though?) and said he's Team Cara and Rachel (which we knew).

in the episode u can hear him say something along the lines of "told you so" when brandon reveals that he voted her.

Yup he sure did. CM clearly thought she 100% had Brandon on her side. First minute it didn't benefit him he backstabbed her which explains Ryan's "I told you" comment. 

I wish they released episodes very 3 days or something ugh.

Cara has more experience in Pole Wrestle, she's done three and won two.

Strategy is more important than brute strength in that. I don't think she demolishes Rachel by any means but she has the edge.

yall i just dont know ..

With other seasons (like season 40 spoilers) there are always calls for competitors to throw the strong players into elimination to keep them from the final. Kam, Brandon, and Jasmine targeting Rachel and Cara here is an example. Let's see how it works out for them.

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