Veronica ruined her legacy with the return to the trilogy. The only thing she proved is that she is a bitter old spinster. Her negative presence will kill the vibe of the season.
Wait. Are we pretending a lot of these people we like aren't negative?
Katie is another must. She is the underrated icon of the franchise. She'd be on my Mount Rushmore of Challenge legends.
True but I thought she doesnt want anything to do with this as Dan Renzi. That's why i think they are out (same with Shane). I just hope that the overwelming majority on this are the most known people (without the miz and jamie)
Veronica ruined her legacy with the return to the trilogy. The only thing she proved is that she is a bitter old spinster. Her negative presence will kill the vibe of the season.
Wait. Are we pretending a lot of these people we like aren't negative?
Like who? Coral? She probably will be and will quit because they served meat for dinner and then complain about it on Twitter for months to come but her commentary will still be great and worth it? Trishelle? I find her entitlement funny and I think in real life she is nice and fun. This will be a much different environment and she'll be around people she likes. Rachel? Eh. I've never been a fan and felt she was overrated as a personality. Susie? Hopefully the don't call her, she is one of the worst humans on the planet. Beth? I actually think she would have fun with it. Tori H? She's only needed if Kendal is there and Kendal would keep her chill. Veronica and Susie are the only 2 I can think of who would be buzzkills and ruin the vibe.
Veronica ruined her legacy with the return to the trilogy. The only thing she proved is that she is a bitter old spinster. Her negative presence will kill the vibe of the season.
Wait. Are we pretending a lot of these people we like aren't negative?
Like who? Coral? She probably will be and will quit because they served meat for dinner and then complain about it on Twitter for months to come but her commentary will still be great and worth it? Trishelle? I find her entitlement funny and I think in real life she is nice and fun. This will be a much different environment and she'll be around people she likes. Rachel? Eh. I've never been a fan and felt she was overrated as a personality. Susie? Hopefully the don't call her, she is one of the worst humans on the planet. Beth? I actually think she would have fun with it. Tori H? She's only needed if Kendal is there and Kendal would keep her chill. Veronica and Susie are the only 2 I can think of who would be buzzkills and ruin the vibe.
Oh we disagree completely (shocking right?)
I think Tori is the ultimate buzz killer followed closely by Trishelle. I dont think Susie was ever that way. Susie always seemed to have fun on these shows.
Tori doesn't come off like that on social media. She seems happy and nice. Y'all are basing opinions on years ago when they were young and this show was their life. If Tori were on it would be for fun for her, not for the money. The environment likely won't suck so there's not that extra stress. Susie proves daily on social media and her poscast what a miserable and terrible human she is. She constantly bashes the show so why would she return?
I may be in the minority but casting Anessa, Darrell and CT would be a waste of a spots for this considering they are still involved with the show airing.
I want it to be people we haven't seen in years. Veronica and Brad I'm even iffy about since we saw them recently, but whatever that's fine.
No Derrick K though. Cant stand him. Cant stand Scott. I have both blocked and don't listen to their show.
Tori doesn't come off like that on social media. She seems happy and nice. Y'all are basing opinions on years ago when they were young and this show was their life. If Tori were on it would be for fun for her, not for the money. The environment likely won't suck so there's not that extra stress. Susie proves daily on social media and her poscast what a miserable and terrible human she is. She constantly bashes the show so why would she return?
Tori will regret returning the instant she arrives IMO. Social media is very misleading. Many people act as they believe others what them to. That's Tori for me. She's all about appearance.
Susie can hate what the show has become but not sure what that has to do with this project. I mean, she's not alone in that opinion.
Katie is another must. She is the underrated icon of the franchise. She'd be on my Mount Rushmore of Challenge legends.
True but I thought she doesnt want anything to do with this as Dan Renzi. That's why i think they are out (same with Shane). I just hope that the overwelming majority on this are the most known people (without the miz and jamie)
Shane isn't out by his choice. He went and attacked someone online that he shouldn't have done if he wanted to be back in the future.
I didn't know you knew Tori so deep like that KVM. It's weird that y'all don't think over 10 years someone can grow and change with life experience. Y'all act like she was some horrific monster...she was just entitled lol.
I didn't know you knew Tori so deep like that KVM. It's weird that y'all don't think over 10 years someone can grow and change with life experience. Y'all act like she was some horrific monster...she was just entitled lol.
No, Diem was just entitled (and whiny as you said earlier--we actually agree). Tori was a *****. Based on all the drama with her and Brad it sure doesn't seem like there's been growth but if she shows up I guess we'll see who's right
Veronica ruined her legacy with the return to the trilogy. The only thing she proved is that she is a bitter old spinster. Her negative presence will kill the vibe of the season.
Wait. Are we pretending a lot of these people we like aren't negative?
veronica did not ruin her legacy. She made it to the last elimination of Dirty 30 by politics and luck, just as she always did. She also won 2 dailies w/ Nelson and on a team if I remember correctly.
I didn't know you knew Tori so deep like that KVM. It's weird that y'all don't think over 10 years someone can grow and change with life experience. Y'all act like she was some horrific monster...she was just entitled lol.
I met her on the challengemania event with Mattie and Kendal. After meeting her I can confirm she is still a Karen with a negative Aura around her.
Also we've yet to have any old schooler return that couldn't be competitive with people 10-15 years than them. Give them missions like Inferno 2 and it should be a great time. They could literally do "old school missions" and it would still be entertaining for a lot of us. Not all. Some will hate it but most of them also hate everything about the show.
I'm confused tho, aren't you the one who says you like the show becoming more like a sport? Wouldn't you not want old school missions then
To be honest he just like to have opposite point of views than the rest on each thread to argue lmao
It's not true at all. If the old schoolers show up on The Challenge they should be doing the missions we currently see. The current show is becoming a sport as we can see with the edit.
This isn't "The Challenge"--it's literally a chance to see people that aren't willing to give up 2 months of their lives to do a show. We're also (hopefully) not talking about a million dollar prize. This is pure nostalgia. Here's Beth, Syrus, Eric Nies, etc that you haven't seen in a decade--they're now doing this with their lives--and here's some comps to cause game drama.
Hell, if I just wanted to opposite point of view I'd root for John.
This probably should not be called a "Challenge," but I don't have a better name for it. I see it as more of a 'reunion' style two-week shoot, and hopefully any prize at the end will go to charity. Most of these people have changed, some dramatically, since 2010. Some of the cast have much more in common today than they did years ago, and that's probably a good thing for them. I'm much more interested in the potential positive social interaction among the cast than in any crazy competition that risks putting people in a hospital. Most were notable cast members when each episode pulled over 2M viewers per episode. I'm glad MTV has seen the value in reaching a wider audience than their usually advertised '13+' demographic.
V1man just returned. Did they reach out to him too? Glad this thing is also bringing in older poster..
the guy who pretends to be closer to production than he actually is, who one of the cast members called out for being just a guy pretending to be close to people 20 years younger than him, has no real credentials beyond a failed calendar shoot, and who is full MAGA, and downplaying the pandemic? nah we good without him.
V1man just returned. Did they reach out to him too? Glad this thing is also bringing in older poster..
the guy who pretends to be closer to production than he actually is, who one of the cast members called out for being just a guy pretending to be close to people 20 years younger than him, has no real credentials beyond a failed calendar shoot, and who is full MAGA, and downplaying the pandemic? nah we good without him.
V1man just returned. Did they reach out to him too? Glad this thing is also bringing in older poster..
the guy who pretends to be closer to production than he actually is, who one of the cast members called out for being just a guy pretending to be close to people 20 years younger than him, has no real credentials beyond a failed calendar shoot, and who is full MAGA, and downplaying the pandemic? nah we good without him.
V1man just returned. Did they reach out to him too? Glad this thing is also bringing in older poster..
the guy who pretends to be closer to production than he actually is, who one of the cast members called out for being just a guy pretending to be close to people 20 years younger than him, has no real credentials beyond a failed calendar shoot, and who is full MAGA, and downplaying the pandemic? nah we good without him.
V1man just returned. Did they reach out to him too? Glad this thing is also bringing in older poster..
the guy who pretends to be closer to production than he actually is, who one of the cast members called out for being just a guy pretending to be close to people 20 years younger than him, has no real credentials beyond a failed calendar shoot, and who is full MAGA, and downplaying the pandemic? nah we good without him.
my jaw? on the floor
I remember him...the only one he was friends with was Beth. I remember him insisting that everyone actually really liked her and it was just an act, and that she was lowkey one of the best female athletes ever and the only woman other than Evelyn who should have completed the Island final....
V1man has an elaborate story why Beth lost each challenge and it was always by her own choice or production rigging lol. He blamed everything on editing and claimed she was really Ms. Congeniality.
V1man just returned. Did they reach out to him too? Glad this thing is also bringing in older poster..
the guy who pretends to be closer to production than he actually is, who one of the cast members called out for being just a guy pretending to be close to people 20 years younger than him, has no real credentials beyond a failed calendar shoot, and who is full MAGA, and downplaying the pandemic? nah we good without him.
my jaw? on the floor
I remember him...the only one he was friends with was Beth. I remember him insisting that everyone actually really liked her and it was just an act, and that she was lowkey one of the best female athletes ever and the only woman other than Evelyn who should have completed the Island final....
I remember him too honestly and everything you say is true. Didn't know he was MAGA though. Not surprised in the least.
Veronica ruined her legacy with the return to the trilogy. The only thing she proved is that she is a bitter old spinster. Her negative presence will kill the vibe of the season.
Wait. Are we pretending a lot of these people we like aren't negative?
True but I thought she doesnt want anything to do with this as Dan Renzi. That's why i think they are out (same with Shane). I just hope that the overwelming majority on this are the most known people (without the miz and jamie)
I thought she said she would do it?
Like who? Coral? She probably will be and will quit because they served meat for dinner and then complain about it on Twitter for months to come but her commentary will still be great and worth it? Trishelle? I find her entitlement funny and I think in real life she is nice and fun. This will be a much different environment and she'll be around people she likes. Rachel? Eh. I've never been a fan and felt she was overrated as a personality. Susie? Hopefully the don't call her, she is one of the worst humans on the planet. Beth? I actually think she would have fun with it. Tori H? She's only needed if Kendal is there and Kendal would keep her chill. Veronica and Susie are the only 2 I can think of who would be buzzkills and ruin the vibe.
Oh we disagree completely (shocking right?)
I think Tori is the ultimate buzz killer followed closely by Trishelle. I dont think Susie was ever that way. Susie always seemed to have fun on these shows.
Tori doesn't come off like that on social media. She seems happy and nice. Y'all are basing opinions on years ago when they were young and this show was their life. If Tori were on it would be for fun for her, not for the money. The environment likely won't suck so there's not that extra stress. Susie proves daily on social media and her poscast what a miserable and terrible human she is. She constantly bashes the show so why would she return?
I may be in the minority but casting Anessa, Darrell and CT would be a waste of a spots for this considering they are still involved with the show airing.
I want it to be people we haven't seen in years. Veronica and Brad I'm even iffy about since we saw them recently, but whatever that's fine.
No Derrick K though. Cant stand him. Cant stand Scott. I have both blocked and don't listen to their show.
Tori will regret returning the instant she arrives IMO. Social media is very misleading. Many people act as they believe others what them to. That's Tori for me. She's all about appearance.
Susie can hate what the show has become but not sure what that has to do with this project. I mean, she's not alone in that opinion.
Shane isn't out by his choice. He went and attacked someone online that he shouldn't have done if he wanted to be back in the future.
I didn't know you knew Tori so deep like that KVM. It's weird that y'all don't think over 10 years someone can grow and change with life experience. Y'all act like she was some horrific monster...she was just entitled lol.
No, Diem was just entitled (and whiny as you said earlier--we actually agree). Tori was a *****. Based on all the drama with her and Brad it sure doesn't seem like there's been growth but if she shows up I guess we'll see who's right
veronica did not ruin her legacy. She made it to the last elimination of Dirty 30 by politics and luck, just as she always did. She also won 2 dailies w/ Nelson and on a team if I remember correctly.
I met her on the challengemania event with Mattie and Kendal. After meeting her I can confirm she is still a Karen with a negative Aura around her.
I wonder if they actually got karamo to do this. Yeah he's a dud but he will bring his fan base to watch.
We say that every time someone with a huge following gets cast and it never happens.
tbh i can see them trying to nab miz as a host
Must have
Women-Coral, Tina, Halle S, Melissa
Men- Abe, Darrel, Alton, Jaime
This probably should not be called a "Challenge," but I don't have a better name for it. I see it as more of a 'reunion' style two-week shoot, and hopefully any prize at the end will go to charity. Most of these people have changed, some dramatically, since 2010. Some of the cast have much more in common today than they did years ago, and that's probably a good thing for them. I'm much more interested in the potential positive social interaction among the cast than in any crazy competition that risks putting people in a hospital. Most were notable cast members when each episode pulled over 2M viewers per episode. I'm glad MTV has seen the value in reaching a wider audience than their usually advertised '13+' demographic.
Who the heck is Halle S?
I think they mean Holly Shand. I was confused for a minute too lol
I need it to be Real World / Road Rules alumni only. Like old school with cut off at Austin. But it'll probably be Key West to have JB.......
V1man just returned. Did they reach out to him too? Glad this thing is also bringing in older poster..
the guy who pretends to be closer to production than he actually is, who one of the cast members called out for being just a guy pretending to be close to people 20 years younger than him, has no real credentials beyond a failed calendar shoot, and who is full MAGA, and downplaying the pandemic? nah we good without him.
Anyways...
Well damn. We just got some TEA.
my jaw? on the floor
I remember him...the only one he was friends with was Beth. I remember him insisting that everyone actually really liked her and it was just an act, and that she was lowkey one of the best female athletes ever and the only woman other than Evelyn who should have completed the Island final....
V1man has an elaborate story why Beth lost each challenge and it was always by her own choice or production rigging lol. He blamed everything on editing and claimed she was really Ms. Congeniality.
I remember him too honestly and everything you say is true. Didn't know he was MAGA though. Not surprised in the least.
agree to disagree with you there lol
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