If Duel 1 is too new to be considered old school then they can keep this mess (Insert skull emoji)
In theory pre-Fresh Meat is OG. But I'm okay with Austin, Key West, Denver, Sydney (but not Fresh Meat) but it's not true old school to those that have been watching since the first season and the 6 v 6 days
I'm very aware they conisder Paula an OG and many after her but she is not. Anyone debuting from Fresh Meat on is not an OG. I'm hoping we get mostly actual OGs but I'm cool with Kellyanne, Ashli, or Johanna too.
I'm very aware they conisder Paula an OG and many after her but she is not. Anyone debuting from Fresh Meat on is not an OG. I'm hoping we get mostly actual OGs but I'm cool with Kellyanne, Ashli, or Johanna too.
There's no set definition of og for this reality show, what makes your opinion better than production's or other fans?
People put way too much stock into the title of the seasons. It's just anyone old school but ogs sounds better, like how not all of the pros on champs vs pros were current athletes or the champs on the next ones weren't all champs, its just a name.
I'm very aware they conisder Paula an OG and many after her but she is not. Anyone debuting from Fresh Meat on is not an OG. I'm hoping we get mostly actual OGs but I'm cool with Kellyanne, Ashli, or Johanna too.
There's no set definition of og for this reality show, what makes your opinion better than production's or other fans?
Right! The only definition that matter is production.
I'm sure the casuals even consider people like Jenna and Cory OGs which is why it makes sense Tony was ever called. I don't like it but it is what it is at this point.
I'm sure the casuals even consider people like Jenna and Cory OGs which is why it makes sense Tony was ever called. I don't like it but it is what it is at this point.
Right I mean we have to accept whatever production wants to do. Doesn't mean that some of us can't consider OG to be pre-Fresh Meat. I won't be complaining casting being from seasons more recent than that unless it actually is Jenna or Cory lol
Just My Opinion (Key Words) but the eras go...
All Stars-The Gauntlet 2 (11 seasons)
Fresh Meat-Cutthroat (9 seasons)-
Rivals-Invasion (9 sesons--Invasion actually doesn't really belong in any group lol)
I'm sure the casuals even consider people like Jenna and Cory OGs which is why it makes sense Tony was ever called. I don't like it but it is what it is at this point.
Right I mean we have to accept whatever production wants to do. Doesn't mean that some of us can't consider OG to be pre-Fresh Meat. I won't be complaining casting being from seasons more recent than that unless it actually is Jenna or Cory lol
Just My Opinion (Key Words) but the eras go...
All Stars-The Gauntlet 2 (11 seasons)
Fresh Meat-Cutthroat (9 seasons)-
Rivals-Invasion (9 sesons--Invasion actually doesn't really belong in any group lol)
XXX-Total Madness (6 seasons-trilogies)
Double Agents-TBD
I would say there's 6 distinct eras based on cast members that production tried to push/gave most screen time to:
We have to remember the definition of old school changes as more seasons come out. Back during Fresh meat 1 Old School was the first 8 or so seasons. Nowadays people consider everyone from BOTS2 be before old school. Of course they're not really old school but with so many seasons coming out old school pool is going to be larger and larger.
Similar to Survivor Winners at War all the old school people were sent home first which included Parvati whose last season was 20. But because it was season 40 she fit in more with old crowd than the new crowd if that makes sense.
We have to remember the definition of old school changes as more seasons come out. Back during Fresh meat 1 Old School was the first 8 or so seasons. Nowadays people consider everyone from BOTS2 be before old school. Of course they're not really old school but with so many seasons coming out old school pool is going to be larger and larger.
Similar to Survivor Winners at War all the old school people were sent home first which included Parvati whose last season was 20. But because it was season 40 she fit in more with old crowd than the new crowd if that makes sense.
Agreed which is why anything prior to FM2 won't bother me for this. I'll make an exception for Jonna though lol--but seriously, I think FM is the cutoff for a lot of us just because introducing cast without seasons was the first real change. Also the difference between now and the first fresh meat is we definitely have eras now. We can dispute them (golden, JEK/Derrick/Brad/Jenn/Paula, Themes, Trilogies, Movies for me) but there's clearly eras now when back then it was old or new.
I'm very aware they conisder Paula an OG and many after her but she is not. Anyone debuting from Fresh Meat on is not an OG. I'm hoping we get mostly actual OGs but I'm cool with Kellyanne, Ashli, or Johanna too.
There's no set definition of og for this reality show, what makes your opinion better than production's or other fans?
OG is an original. Paula is not an original. It's not that serious. I know when they say OGs they don't mean just the original seasons. Y'all take stuff too deep here lol.
Only Susie is on my hate list, a truly terrible human at the core. Veronica had a lot of very sad things happen in a short time and I think it really and understandably defeated her, so her misery is more sad to me than anything. Based on their old school history and contribution to the show they both are deserving of a spot if they end up getting cast. Hopefully they don't though.
We agree on something for a change, and i disagree with Psy lol. Susie is my least favorite female castmember by far, just cruel.
I mean I def have a more old school look at who is OG (pre-fresh meat) - but I would understand them using someone like Paula. I liked Paula back in the day and it's been awhile, I just would prefer the pre-fresh meat crowd. Anne W getting ready for her epic return <3
I easily could see them going with just the more popular cast members from the past few eras - which is still way better than current casting (for me personally lol) - I still will hold out hope it's a lot of pre-fresh meat people though
They're picking the most notable names of the last two decades so I'm expecting CT/Darrell/Aneesa & Bananas + Mark + whoever they can scrub up so most likely a lot of notables from the JEK era with one or two surprises.
Veronica has been promoting I2 on her Twitter and Tina recently said she'll come back if it's organized and her friends are there. Coral hopefully will come if somebody like Arissa make the cast what's her relationship with Aneesa?
they just need to do a champs vs stars format but with ALL challengers, make it old school vs new school and put it in LA
A mini challenge
anything that is not "The Challenge" but just them talking for 20 minutes about veronicas life today is an aboslute waste and will get 0 ratings
No. They need to do an old school that only involves worst case scenario Fresh Meat 2 (preferably only Fresh Meat 1) and older. We don't need the same tired faces overtaking this as well.
I'm sure the casuals even consider people like Jenna and Cory OGs which is why it makes sense Tony was ever called. I don't like it but it is what it is at this point.
I don't have any reason to believed Tony will be on this atleast NOT as of now unless things change dramatically last minute. Availability calls was once production reach out to each person individually not those texts from Mark, those texts made production job easier to know who would do it if timing was right and under the right conditions. But they weren't availability calls or who production is going to for sure cast since clearly they reach out to other people that weren't on Mark list like the Amaya girl
they just need to do a champs vs stars format but with ALL challengers, make it old school vs new school and put it in LA
A mini challenge
anything that is not "The Challenge" but just them talking for 20 minutes about veronicas life today is an aboslute waste and will get 0 ratings
It's a reunion show with production judgement of what is old school. It's not going to be the same as champs vs stars as far as the freedom goes because of covid & it's not going to be as extreme as a regular season.
While they are older I still think if you put this people under the same roof with camera and alcohol they are going to deliver some type of shit show.
I think G2 is the end of the old era too, but another thing that I think should be considered is being on a challenge that wasn't hosted by TJ. Sorry Jillian and MJ lmao
I think G2 is the end of the old era too, but another thing that I think should be considered is being on a challenge that wasn't hosted by TJ. Sorry Jillian and MJ lmaO
I think G2 is the end of the old era too, but another thing that I think should be considered is being on a challenge that wasn't hosted by TJ. Sorry Jillian and MJ lmaO
Thats not the the cut off of this
Oh, I'm sure not! But it would be if I was in charge lol. But no Paula and Johnny would not be an OG if I had my way. You shouldn't be an OG on a show called the RW/RR Challenge when RR was already off the air when you debuted.
I'm very aware they conisder Paula an OG and many after her but she is not. Anyone debuting from Fresh Meat on is not an OG. I'm hoping we get mostly actual OGs but I'm cool with Kellyanne, Ashli, or Johanna too.
I'm high-key expecting Tori H who is from that era too, which is fine by me b/c atleat she is a Road Ruler.
I think G2 is the end of the old era too, but another thing that I think should be considered is being on a challenge that wasn't hosted by TJ. Sorry Jillian and MJ lmaO
Thats not the the cut off of this
Oh, I'm sure not! But it would be if I was in charge lol. But no Paula and Johnny would not be an OG if I had my way. You shouldn't be an OG on a show called the RW/RR Challenge when RR was already off the air when you debuted.
If you were in charge how would fill out the remaining spots if you don't have enough of people from that cutoff to agree to do it to make an actual show happen? Would you just throw the whole show to the garbage or expand the options to have a bigger pool?
they just need to do a champs vs stars format but with ALL challengers, make it old school vs new school and put it in LA
A mini challenge
anything that is not "The Challenge" but just them talking for 20 minutes about veronicas life today is an aboslute waste and will get 0 ratings
It's a reunion show with production judgement of what is old school. It's not going to be the same as champs vs stars as far as the freedom goes because of covid & it's not going to be as extreme as a regular season. While they are older I still think if you put this people under the same roof with camera and alcohol they are going to deliver some type of shit show.
In theory pre-Fresh Meat is OG. But I'm okay with Austin, Key West, Denver, Sydney (but not Fresh Meat) but it's not true old school to those that have been watching since the first season and the 6 v 6 days
Yeah, guessing Jenn & KellyAnne too
Jenn is pregnant and even if she wasn't she would never come back to this show.
I'm very aware they conisder Paula an OG and many after her but she is not. Anyone debuting from Fresh Meat on is not an OG. I'm hoping we get mostly actual OGs but I'm cool with Kellyanne, Ashli, or Johanna too.
There's no set definition of og for this reality show, what makes your opinion better than production's or other fans?
Agreed just saying those are people production would consider OG
People put way too much stock into the title of the seasons. It's just anyone old school but ogs sounds better, like how not all of the pros on champs vs pros were current athletes or the champs on the next ones weren't all champs, its just a name.
Right! The only definition that matter is production.
I'm sure the casuals even consider people like Jenna and Cory OGs which is why it makes sense Tony was ever called. I don't like it but it is what it is at this point.
Right I mean we have to accept whatever production wants to do. Doesn't mean that some of us can't consider OG to be pre-Fresh Meat. I won't be complaining casting being from seasons more recent than that unless it actually is Jenna or Cory lol
Just My Opinion (Key Words) but the eras go...
All Stars-The Gauntlet 2 (11 seasons)
Fresh Meat-Cutthroat (9 seasons)-
Rivals-Invasion (9 sesons--Invasion actually doesn't really belong in any group lol)
XXX-Total Madness (6 seasons-trilogies)
Double Agents-TBD
I would say there's 6 distinct eras based on cast members that production tried to push/gave most screen time to:
1. All-stars - Gauntlet 2 (Old school era)
2. Fresh Meat - Ruins (JEK era)
3. Fresh Meat 2 - Exes (Laurel/Bananas/CT/Wes/Cara era)
4. BOTS - Exes 2 (Zach/Frank/Dustin/Jonna era)
5. Bloodlines - Dirty 30 (Tony/TYB/Kailah/Ashley M era)
6. Vendettas - Total Madness (British/international invasion era)
LMAO Jonna getting her own era <3
We have to remember the definition of old school changes as more seasons come out. Back during Fresh meat 1 Old School was the first 8 or so seasons. Nowadays people consider everyone from BOTS2 be before old school. Of course they're not really old school but with so many seasons coming out old school pool is going to be larger and larger.
Similar to Survivor Winners at War all the old school people were sent home first which included Parvati whose last season was 20. But because it was season 40 she fit in more with old crowd than the new crowd if that makes sense.
Agreed which is why anything prior to FM2 won't bother me for this. I'll make an exception for Jonna though lol--but seriously, I think FM is the cutoff for a lot of us just because introducing cast without seasons was the first real change. Also the difference between now and the first fresh meat is we definitely have eras now. We can dispute them (golden, JEK/Derrick/Brad/Jenn/Paula, Themes, Trilogies, Movies for me) but there's clearly eras now when back then it was old or new.
OG is an original. Paula is not an original. It's not that serious. I know when they say OGs they don't mean just the original seasons. Y'all take stuff too deep here lol.
lol it was bound to happen eventually :P
I mean I def have a more old school look at who is OG (pre-fresh meat) - but I would understand them using someone like Paula. I liked Paula back in the day and it's been awhile, I just would prefer the pre-fresh meat crowd. Anne W getting ready for her epic return <3
I easily could see them going with just the more popular cast members from the past few eras - which is still way better than current casting (for me personally lol) - I still will hold out hope it's a lot of pre-fresh meat people though
they just need to do a champs vs stars format but with ALL challengers, make it old school vs new school and put it in LA
A mini challenge
anything that is not "The Challenge" but just them talking for 20 minutes about veronicas life today is an aboslute waste and will get 0 ratings
yall will not let veronica breathe
They're picking the most notable names of the last two decades so I'm expecting CT/Darrell/Aneesa & Bananas + Mark + whoever they can scrub up so most likely a lot of notables from the JEK era with one or two surprises.
Veronica has been promoting I2 on her Twitter and Tina recently said she'll come back if it's organized and her friends are there. Coral hopefully will come if somebody like Arissa make the cast what's her relationship with Aneesa?
No. They need to do an old school that only involves worst case scenario Fresh Meat 2 (preferably only Fresh Meat 1) and older. We don't need the same tired faces overtaking this as well.
I don't have any reason to believed Tony will be on this atleast NOT as of now unless things change dramatically last minute. Availability calls was once production reach out to each person individually not those texts from Mark, those texts made production job easier to know who would do it if timing was right and under the right conditions. But they weren't availability calls or who production is going to for sure cast since clearly they reach out to other people that weren't on Mark list like the Amaya girl
It's a reunion show with production judgement of what is old school. It's not going to be the same as champs vs stars as far as the freedom goes because of covid & it's not going to be as extreme as a regular season.
While they are older I still think if you put this people under the same roof with camera and alcohol they are going to deliver some type of shit show.
I think G2 is the end of the old era too, but another thing that I think should be considered is being on a challenge that wasn't hosted by TJ. Sorry Jillian and MJ lmao
will this be located in the states? Super excited btw
Thats not the the cut off of this
Oh, I'm sure not! But it would be if I was in charge lol. But no Paula and Johnny would not be an OG if I had my way. You shouldn't be an OG on a show called the RW/RR Challenge when RR was already off the air when you debuted.
I'm high-key expecting Tori H who is from that era too, which is fine by me b/c atleat she is a Road Ruler.
If you were in charge how would fill out the remaining spots if you don't have enough of people from that cutoff to agree to do it to make an actual show happen? Would you just throw the whole show to the garbage or expand the options to have a bigger pool?
I'm really hoping for Evelyn, Veronica or Beth, also hopefully they consider Shauvon old school hahaha. This show is so cool, I'm excited
So are there not going to be competition?
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