Adam said on Afterbuzz that people who have competed in finals before said this was the hardest challenge they've ever done and even harder than finals they've competed in.
Yeah but really what people in that mission have competed in tons of finals? Not many. Zach 2, Johnny R. 1, Leroy 1 (quit), Wes 3 (but Duel & Rivals 2 weren't as hard finals), Sarah 3 (quit in Cutthroat final).
Adam said on Afterbuzz that people who have competed in finals before said this was the hardest challenge they've ever done and even harder than finals they've competed in.
That's gotta be bull. Jordan/Leroy/Wes all looked okay, even Zach. Only person I can see saying this is probably Sarah, but then I rememeber Cutthroat and how awful that was for her than this.
Adam said on Afterbuzz that people who have competed in finals before said this was the hardest challenge they've ever done and even harder than finals they've competed in.
Yeah but really what people in that mission have competed in tons of finals? Not many. Zach 2, Johnny R. 1, Leroy 1 (quit), Wes 3 (but Duel & Rivals 2 weren't as hard finals), Sarah 3 (quit in Cutthroat final).
I'm watching then show as well and I agree. That's BS. That was the hardest of this season, sure. But final-level? No way.
Adam said on Afterbuzz that people who have competed in finals before said this was the hardest challenge they've ever done and even harder than finals they've competed in.
Yeah but really what people in that mission have competed in tons of finals? Not many. Zach 2, Johnny R. 1, Leroy 1 (quit), Wes 3 (but Duel & Rivals 2 weren't as hard finals), Sarah 3 (quit in Cutthroat final).
I'm watching then show as well and I agree. That's BS. That was the hardest of this season, sure. But final-level? No way.
I don't think it is final level especially the finals nowadays. That is just what Adam stated.
It's Johnny's fault they are in the elimination due to his alliance, but Averey was masterfully manipulated by Wes. Wes made the proper call to go with Johnny and Averey, as he needs to whittle down the numbers on the other side. Because he needs Johnny and Averey to lose and they are a solid team, Wes planted that seed of doubt into Averey, who is such an emotional wreck about Johnny below the surface that of course she had to get emotional and bring it to that place. The best chance of Averey and Johnny losing to Adam and Brittany are by them not being united as a team, which is precisely why Wes phrased it the way he did. Johnny knows the score, but Averey is in such an easily manipulated state that Wes was able to push those buttons. That's why his troll game is solid.
As for the Jonna thing, she's simply average -- not great, not terrible. Most seasons she's pretty consistently in the middle, but this season has seen her really suck. A lot of that has to do with Zach being a *********, but even at her optimum state Jonna is a good puzzle person and that's about it. I don't really see her being on Nany's level -- except for puzzles I'd take Nany hands down. I think Jemmye is a good comparison as far as overall aptitude, though Jemmye is a bit better physically while Jonna is more intelligent. But saying Jonna is equal to Nany is similar to saying that Jay Cutler is equal to Tony Romo.
Eh I wouldn't go that far saying Jemmye is better , just look at this season she out preformed her in every mission. Jemmye is far worse than Jonna
I didn't say Jemmye was better overall, I said they were about equal. Jemmye is a bit more physical, Jonna is a bit more intelligent. Combine the two and their overall grade is comparable.
I didn't get to see any of the good part of the episode last night because the live stream was started spazzing out of nowhere. Of course this WOULD be the day where all the Youtube uploaders have other things going on -_____- smh any other time they would have it up within hours.
1) Jordan was a good partner to Sarah. I'm not a Jordan fan but I think he was motivating Sarah. Sarah has done the same thing to her former partners (Devyn, Katelynn, Shavoun). Now she has a partner that is technicaly better than her and she needs to realize that
2) I hope I get these reunion tickets just so I can see Zach being spooked after this season. Jonna would have been a boss if she quit the challenge and pulled a Big Easy in the elimination round
3) Wes & Theresa are reminding me a lot of Johnny & Camila this season. They're a power couple. They won the 1st, 5th and 6th challenges and were runner-ups in the 2nd and 3rd challenges. Insane. We can hate on 10 & 2 (which I love to) but I think she came to compete this season
4) With Johnny/Averey, I love Averey but I agree with Johnny on this. She is way too emotional in this game. She reminds me a lot of Diem who would get emotional with certain things (remember Fresh Meat, Duel, Duel 2, Rivals 2 when she was sent in).
What more do you want ****. To come down that mountain and pull back 300 lbs is ridiculous. Stop projecting, if those 5 people said it was hard than it was hard end of story.
Am I the only one who didn't mind the absence of Bananas and Nany in this episode? If the Wes/Avery/Reilly convo didn't go on, I wouldn't have even thought about them this episode.
I didn't mind Backpack not being there. **** I'm GLAD he isn't there any more.
Does nobody really understand how hard this mission was. Remembering pieces of a puzzle that was all colors and huge? And pulling back 300 lbs. You all really have to stop down playing this challenge, the height distance, remembering colors, and pulling back 300 lbs. I want to jab Zach in his mouth, Jordan is by far a better teammate.
1) Jordan was a good partner to Sarah. I'm not a Jordan fan but I think he was motivating Sarah. Sarah has done the same thing to her former partners (Devyn, Katelynn, Shavoun). Now she has a partner that is technicaly better than her and she needs to realize that
2) I hope I get these reunion tickets just so I can see Zach being spooked after this season. Jonna would have been a boss if she quit the challenge and pulled a Big Easy in the elimination round
3) Wes & Theresa are reminding me a lot of Johnny & Camila this season. They're a power couple. They won the 1st, 5th and 6th challenges and were runner-ups in the 2nd and 3rd challenges. Insane. We can hate on 10 & 2 (which I love to) but I think she came to compete this season
4) With Johnny/Averey, I love Averey but I agree with Johnny on this. She is way too emotional in this game. She reminds me a lot of Diem who would get emotional with certain things (remember Fresh Meat, Duel, Duel 2, Rivals 2 when she was sent in).
Wow Wes/10&2 are killing it this season. I never would have guessed they would be the best team. 3 wins and getting runner-up twice out of 6 challenges is super impressive. They would kill it in a final.
Hopefully this will show them that they can go ahead & retire Johnny B. for good. They force the real old-schoolers into it so why not go ahead & kill the remains of that horrid era he came from?
As for the mission: if they're say it was harder than a final then it just might've been. ****, they're actually doing it; we just watch it & comment so we will never really know unless we get to do it. Then again a lot of them aren't too bright...
Zach you ****, notice how the teams that do the best are the ones where the teammates respect each other. These morons who bash their partners wont get anywhere. Like really Zach how **** stupid can you be? That's the one person you need and you demean them. You just got to be stupid as all **** to constantly do that.
The reason the best teams get along is because they are winning. Zach is being a ****, but it's easy to be nice when you're winning and you're not seeing your partner suck.
It's one thing to have an issue like Nany, where clearly she got stuck and couldn't move. It's another thing entirely if you're threatening to quit, consistently being among the worst etc.
Not saying Zach is right, just saying some of the other guys might be just as bad if their girl was sucking every mission.
Hopefully this will show them that they can go ahead & retire Johnny B. for good. They force the real old-schoolers into it so why not go ahead & kill the remains of that horrid era he came from?
As for the mission: if they're say it was harder than a final then it just might've been. ****, they're actually doing it; we just watch it & comment so we will never really know unless we get to do it. Then again a lot of them aren't too bright...
Lol while watching I totally forgot Bananas was even on the show. However, I don't mind him being on the show. He does bring drama. And from here on out his game is going to get harder because people are sick of him making the final so they are gonna come for him, finally! I'm just sick of the whole like a Bananas vs. Wes thing. It is getting old.
Neither were treated like human beings, but it's a whole new level when a person who once loved you and cared so much about you has turned into such a hateful and degrading person. If I was ever treated that way by a former lover, I'm completely question the relationship we had and what was really going on in their head during it.
I love Jonna, my favorite female castmember recently, and I get horribly sad when Zach abuses her. What's worse is that she has to sit there, week after week, and hear everything else he said behind her back and in confessionals and be hurt all over ago.
I have always liked Zach but after this season, I wouldn't be upset if he never returned. I'm a very competitive person and I can understand wanting to do well and win, but I would never speak to someone, especially a female and my partner, the way he does. I'd love to see somebody put him in his place and call him out but he would never take responsibility for his actions and he would be an immature brat (as usual) and make excuse after excuse.
He won a very easy final against a team of two and a team with Devyn, he got DQed because he was, again, trying to control his partner and ******* it up and tried to lie about it and almost cried, and he shit the bed on the last final he competed in and had the balls to come to this challenge and degrade his partner. Jonna is visibly scared of Zach and of failing him, she was set up for a loss the second she stepped off the plane. Emotional abuse is largely underestimated and yet it can be the most dangerous kind. I'm sure Jonna left this challenge very terrible about herself because of Zach and anybody who does that to a person deserves nothing. I believe Jonna was strong enough to let her spirits and confidence stay high, and obviously Zach realizes he was a complete ***** and has been in hiding ever since.
Cant wait to see how that ***** acts at the reunion.
Sam was treated bad when it came to the competition but Zach is treating Jonna bad when it comes to the game and on a personal level. The sad thing is what were are seeing isn't as bad as what went down.. Zach was making fun of stuff in Jonna's personal life behind her back. He even made fun of her being homeless in a confessional when he was like Jonna was homeless and like started laughing when he was explaining that they moved to LA together. Jonna has been emotionally abused all season and it is disgusting to watch. If Jonna quit, I would totally understand. I feel bad for her having to watch this.
If Zach is at the reunion he better be remorseful as ****.
Johnny was an ******* on Portland though, his frantic jealousy, calling Jess fat, putting a used napkin on Nia and trying to pour a drink on her, he also flipped out on anastasia too. I honestly never understood why people liked him and Avery especially as a couple, they were extremely annoying on Portland.
Also I love missions like this and Logged Out, nice to see some really tough missions. Would've been nice to see how Banany and CT/Diem would have done.
Johnny was an ******* on Portland though, his frantic jealousy, calling Jess fat, putting a used napkin on Nia and trying to pour a drink on her, he also flipped out on anastasia too. I honestly never understood why people liked him and Avery especially as a couple, they were extremely annoying on Portland.
I loved him and Averey on Portland and I hated Nia. Now I like Nia and am starting to hate him.
Averey is perfect.
Johnny was an ******* on Portland though, his frantic jealousy, calling Jess fat, putting a used napkin on Nia and trying to pour a drink on her, he also flipped out on anastasia too. I honestly never understood why people liked him and Avery especially as a couple, they were extremely annoying on Portland.
I loved him and Averey on Portland and I hated Nia. Now I like Nia and am starting to hate him.
Averey is perfect.
Why? I thought they were irritating and immature and brought out the worst out of each other. What did you enjoy about them on Portland?
Johnny was an ******* on Portland though, his frantic jealousy, calling Jess fat, putting a used napkin on Nia and trying to pour a drink on her, he also flipped out on anastasia too. I honestly never understood why people liked him and Avery especially as a couple, they were extremely annoying on Portland.
I loved him and Averey on Portland and I hated Nia. Now I like Nia and am starting to hate him.
Averey is perfect.
Why? I thought they were irritating and immature and brought out the worst out of each other. What did you enjoy about them on Portland?
They were cute together, they really cared about each other.
A couple I never understood how anyone could possibly like is Knight & Jemmye, they were the definition of irritating .
Then goes to Johnny's interview "What the **** does that even mean"
*****. Averey sounded real dumb when she said that.
Sorry but it isn't dumb..just like Chris vs. CT
He flipped--you could see it--even with that nervous laugh
Eh I think the CT/Chris is way more accurate and not comparable to Johnny/Reily... I think Johnny has been the same. He is just ****** at her for cheating that he strongly believes happen, that is why he isn't the same towards her as she says.
Yeah but really what people in that mission have competed in tons of finals? Not many. Zach 2, Johnny R. 1, Leroy 1 (quit), Wes 3 (but Duel & Rivals 2 weren't as hard finals), Sarah 3 (quit in Cutthroat final).
That's gotta be bull. Jordan/Leroy/Wes all looked okay, even Zach. Only person I can see saying this is probably Sarah, but then I rememeber Cutthroat and how awful that was for her than this.
I'm watching then show as well and I agree. That's BS. That was the hardest of this season, sure. But final-level? No way.
I don't think it is final level especially the finals nowadays. That is just what Adam stated.
I didn't say Jemmye was better overall, I said they were about equal. Jemmye is a bit more physical, Jonna is a bit more intelligent. Combine the two and their overall grade is comparable.
I didn't get to see any of the good part of the episode last night because the live stream was started spazzing out of nowhere. Of course this WOULD be the day where all the Youtube uploaders have other things going on -_____- smh any other time they would have it up within hours.
1) Jordan was a good partner to Sarah. I'm not a Jordan fan but I think he was motivating Sarah. Sarah has done the same thing to her former partners (Devyn, Katelynn, Shavoun). Now she has a partner that is technicaly better than her and she needs to realize that
2) I hope I get these reunion tickets just so I can see Zach being spooked after this season. Jonna would have been a boss if she quit the challenge and pulled a Big Easy in the elimination round
3) Wes & Theresa are reminding me a lot of Johnny & Camila this season. They're a power couple. They won the 1st, 5th and 6th challenges and were runner-ups in the 2nd and 3rd challenges. Insane. We can hate on 10 & 2 (which I love to) but I think she came to compete this season
4) With Johnny/Averey, I love Averey but I agree with Johnny on this. She is way too emotional in this game. She reminds me a lot of Diem who would get emotional with certain things (remember Fresh Meat, Duel, Duel 2, Rivals 2 when she was sent in).
What more do you want ****. To come down that mountain and pull back 300 lbs is ridiculous. Stop projecting, if those 5 people said it was hard than it was hard end of story.
I didn't mind Backpack not being there. **** I'm GLAD he isn't there any more.
Does nobody really understand how hard this mission was. Remembering pieces of a puzzle that was all colors and huge? And pulling back 300 lbs. You all really have to stop down playing this challenge, the height distance, remembering colors, and pulling back 300 lbs. I want to jab Zach in his mouth, Jordan is by far a better teammate.
Wow Wes/10&2 are killing it this season. I never would have guessed they would be the best team. 3 wins and getting runner-up twice out of 6 challenges is super impressive. They would kill it in a final.
Im glad Banany wasnt there also, they would have done well in that challenge too. Wes and Theresa are doing so good this season.
Hopefully this will show them that they can go ahead & retire Johnny B. for good. They force the real old-schoolers into it so why not go ahead & kill the remains of that horrid era he came from?
As for the mission: if they're say it was harder than a final then it just might've been. ****, they're actually doing it; we just watch it & comment so we will never really know unless we get to do it. Then again a lot of them aren't too bright...
The reason the best teams get along is because they are winning. Zach is being a ****, but it's easy to be nice when you're winning and you're not seeing your partner suck.
It's one thing to have an issue like Nany, where clearly she got stuck and couldn't move. It's another thing entirely if you're threatening to quit, consistently being among the worst etc.
Not saying Zach is right, just saying some of the other guys might be just as bad if their girl was sucking every mission.
Question : Who was treated worse? Jonna or Sam?
Do none of these guys do freakin leg day? Lol it's blantly obvious during this episode that leg day is not in the vocabulary. Lol
Lol while watching I totally forgot Bananas was even on the show. However, I don't mind him being on the show. He does bring drama. And from here on out his game is going to get harder because people are sick of him making the final so they are gonna come for him, finally! I'm just sick of the whole like a Bananas vs. Wes thing. It is getting old.
Jonna, no question.
Neither were treated like human beings, but it's a whole new level when a person who once loved you and cared so much about you has turned into such a hateful and degrading person. If I was ever treated that way by a former lover, I'm completely question the relationship we had and what was really going on in their head during it.
I love Jonna, my favorite female castmember recently, and I get horribly sad when Zach abuses her. What's worse is that she has to sit there, week after week, and hear everything else he said behind her back and in confessionals and be hurt all over ago.
I have always liked Zach but after this season, I wouldn't be upset if he never returned. I'm a very competitive person and I can understand wanting to do well and win, but I would never speak to someone, especially a female and my partner, the way he does. I'd love to see somebody put him in his place and call him out but he would never take responsibility for his actions and he would be an immature brat (as usual) and make excuse after excuse.
He won a very easy final against a team of two and a team with Devyn, he got DQed because he was, again, trying to control his partner and ******* it up and tried to lie about it and almost cried, and he shit the bed on the last final he competed in and had the balls to come to this challenge and degrade his partner. Jonna is visibly scared of Zach and of failing him, she was set up for a loss the second she stepped off the plane. Emotional abuse is largely underestimated and yet it can be the most dangerous kind. I'm sure Jonna left this challenge very terrible about herself because of Zach and anybody who does that to a person deserves nothing. I believe Jonna was strong enough to let her spirits and confidence stay high, and obviously Zach realizes he was a complete ***** and has been in hiding ever since.
Cant wait to see how that ***** acts at the reunion.
Jonna 100%.
Sam was treated bad when it came to the competition but Zach is treating Jonna bad when it comes to the game and on a personal level. The sad thing is what were are seeing isn't as bad as what went down.. Zach was making fun of stuff in Jonna's personal life behind her back. He even made fun of her being homeless in a confessional when he was like Jonna was homeless and like started laughing when he was explaining that they moved to LA together. Jonna has been emotionally abused all season and it is disgusting to watch. If Jonna quit, I would totally understand. I feel bad for her having to watch this.
If Zach is at the reunion he better be remorseful as ****.
"You aren't even Johnny anymore" "You are Reily"
Then goes to Johnny's interview "What the **** does that even mean"
*****. Averey sounded real dumb when she said that.
I do not understand how Jenna is okay with how Zach threats Jonna. Sick
That was dumb but she wasn't wrong, he's not the same person he used to be, he's a much bigger ******* this season.
Johnny was an ******* on Portland though, his frantic jealousy, calling Jess fat, putting a used napkin on Nia and trying to pour a drink on her, he also flipped out on anastasia too. I honestly never understood why people liked him and Avery especially as a couple, they were extremely annoying on Portland.
Also I love missions like this and Logged Out, nice to see some really tough missions. Would've been nice to see how Banany and CT/Diem would have done.
I loved him and Averey on Portland and I hated Nia. Now I like Nia and am starting to hate him.
Averey is perfect.
Sorry but it isn't dumb..just like Chris vs. CT
He flipped--you could see it--even with that nervous laugh
Why? I thought they were irritating and immature and brought out the worst out of each other. What did you enjoy about them on Portland?
They were cute together, they really cared about each other.
A couple I never understood how anyone could possibly like is Knight & Jemmye, they were the definition of irritating .
I agree with this but I find it hard to believe that Johnny & Averey were likeable.
Eh I think the CT/Chris is way more accurate and not comparable to Johnny/Reily... I think Johnny has been the same. He is just ****** at her for cheating that he strongly believes happen, that is why he isn't the same towards her as she says.
CT/Chris- there were really 2 sides of CT
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