Is Jonna better at missions though? Nany has shown me a bit more as far as missions go, but they're still on par. Also yeah the Jasmine commet was just to toss another name there.
Yeah, I don't think there's any question that Jonna's better at missions. Now, the last two missions clearly don't help but that's swimming and I think Zach's ruined her mentally.
If I was on a big team challenge I'd consider them about average. I think both are soft mentally though. Since swimming comes into play a lot I'd probably take Nany.
I still think if Jonna was around at the beginning of these challenges she'd have been that girl that almost always made it to the end with her name never coming up for elimination...like Diem other than her duels and the ruins when she wanted to go home.
How so? Some examples would be nice because she and Jasmine didn't do so hot on Rivals 1 and barely avoided last place numerous times because of DQs from Laurel/Cara, Seasons 2 obviously Jonna did well (as did Nany), Rivals 2 they were teamed together and also did very well, and I did tune out of FA so perhaps there is where she shined? I just am not seeing how Jonna is unquestionably better at issions.
Read Jasmine. Jonna consistently performed well but was held back. Seasons 2 Jonna did far better than Nany. In Rivals 2 who was the lead girl--it was Jonna but that was only Nany's second challenge so it is understandable. Jonna was one of only two girls that did anything on the third mission of FA (too bad Jordan's ego ****** it up) . Nany did well at the end of FA when she got paired with Theresa and Bananas...but Seasons 2 Jonna was definitely far better--you can try to dismiss that as Nany's first challenge
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And again, can you give examples of this, because I'm not seeing Jonna doing far better than Nany on Seasons 2. Hmmm, where did you get that Jonna was the lead girl on Rivals 2? Didn't get that impression at all, some more concrete examples would be nice here.
i dont know why people are giving jonna much credit for rivals 1. had things gone according to plan she wouldnt even have made it past episode 4. she was saved by the HUGE disparity in competitive abilities between theresa/camila and her own team. basically she and jasmine sucked so bad that they had to keep her around. there is also this myth that they never got last place either. uh, they did on almost every single male day though i guess you can give them credit for getting SECOND to last on every females day outside of the first mission.
jonna did kick *** on seasons and rivals 2 just like nany. i remember right after seasons people were raving about nanys abilities saying that she was going to be some upcoming supercompetitor because of what she did on seasons but i dont remember hearing anything about jonna. both nany and jonna made cara look like **** on rivals 2 IMO. overall i consider her a cut below nany though. jonna's lack of physical formidability and recently revealed inability to swim is way too much of a liability. she's a good competitor but WAY too specialized in her strengths while someone like nany's abilities are more broad based with no real apparent weaknesses even if she might not be the best at something. i would like to see how cara does on her next challenge before we really place her because as far as i can see, if we are judging only her most recent performance then she's great but if we are ***essing her whole sphere of work then she looks pretty bad compared to almost everyone mentioned here. An F(FM2)+D(Cutthroat)+C(Rivals)+D(Exes)+C(Seasons)+C(Rivals2)+A(FreeAgents) does NOT equal an A grade overall lol
i think susie vs jonna would be an interesting match up.
He kept it 100 tonight. Favorite parts of the episode are all him.
1 ) He congratulates Adam on holding the 300 lb. Trap because only the boys know how heavy it is lol
2) when she wanted it open for 30 seconds he said "Oh thats like hitting the lottery" once again as a lifter i can only imagine how heavy that is lol.
3) When he screams "I am HERCULES"
And when Avery starts bugging out about going into the dome and makes a huge deal out of it. Johnny say "Its a game" " Its johnny and Avery not just my fault. Johnny he was completely correct this whole episode and handled it like a boss, I really hope he rings that bell first.
Johnny R has gained a fan because that dude is real and funny as ****.
Also wow is Zach a ******, if that guy actually had some humble traits and could communicate without being a huge sissy **** he would do well. I felt bad for Jonna, that mission was hard as **** from both sides of the court. Instead of being a **** why dint he help her remember the puzzle?and lead her and be the ol mighty player he claims to be.
Hes gotta go, he ruins so much of this great show.
It's Johnny's fault they are in the elimination due to his alliance, but Averey was masterfully manipulated by Wes. Wes made the proper call to go with Johnny and Averey, as he needs to whittle down the numbers on the other side. Because he needs Johnny and Averey to lose and they are a solid team, Wes planted that seed of doubt into Averey, who is such an emotional wreck about Johnny below the surface that of course she had to get emotional and bring it to that place. The best chance of Averey and Johnny losing to Adam and Brittany are by them not being united as a team, which is precisely why Wes phrased it the way he did. Johnny knows the score, but Averey is in such an easily manipulated state that Wes was able to push those buttons. That's why his troll game is solid.
As for the Jonna thing, she's simply average -- not great, not terrible. Most seasons she's pretty consistently in the middle, but this season has seen her really suck. A lot of that has to do with Zach being a *********, but even at her optimum state Jonna is a good puzzle person and that's about it. I don't really see her being on Nany's level -- except for puzzles I'd take Nany hands down. I think Jemmye is a good comparison as far as overall aptitude, though Jemmye is a bit better physically while Jonna is more intelligent. But saying Jonna is equal to Nany is similar to saying that Jay Cutler is equal to Tony Romo.
Johnny is a pretty ****** partner too, he.said things just to hurt Averey and laughed in her face.
Lol no where near as bad as the others and he never acts unsupportive when they compete together.
He really believes Averey cheated on him so I'm surprised he's not more heated towards her.
He's still a immature person and a terrible partner, they reason they never won a mission is because they don't work well together because he resents her. The whole cheating thing is complex but he is by no means a good partner. IMO for worst it goes Zach Jordan Johnny.
It's Johnny's fault they are in the elimination due to his alliance, but Averey was masterfully manipulated by Wes. Wes made the proper call to go with Johnny and Averey, as he needs to whittle down the numbers on the other side. Because he needs Johnny and Averey to lose and they are a solid team, Wes planted that seed of doubt into Averey, who is such an emotional wreck about Johnny below the surface that of course she had to get emotional and bring it to that place. The best chance of Averey and Johnny losing to Adam and Brittany are by them not being united as a team, which is precisely why Wes phrased it the way he did. Johnny knows the score, but Averey is in such an easily manipulated state that Wes was able to push those buttons. That's why his troll game is solid.
As for the Jonna thing, she's simply average -- not great, not terrible. Most seasons she's pretty consistently in the middle, but this season has seen her really suck. A lot of that has to do with Zach being a *********, but even at her optimum state Jonna is a good puzzle person and that's about it. I don't really see her being on Nany's level -- except for puzzles I'd take Nany hands down. I think Jemmye is a good comparison as far as overall aptitude, though Jemmye is a bit better physically while Jonna is more intelligent. But saying Jonna is equal to Nany is similar to saying that Jay Cutler is equal to Tony Romo.
Eh I wouldn't go that far saying Jemmye is better , just look at this season she out preformed her in every mission. Jemmye is far worse than Jonna
It's Johnny's fault they are in the elimination due to his alliance, but Averey was masterfully manipulated by Wes. Wes made the proper call to go with Johnny and Averey, as he needs to whittle down the numbers on the other side. Because he needs Johnny and Averey to lose and they are a solid team, Wes planted that seed of doubt into Averey, who is such an emotional wreck about Johnny below the surface that of course she had to get emotional and bring it to that place. The best chance of Averey and Johnny losing to Adam and Brittany are by them not being united as a team, which is precisely why Wes phrased it the way he did. Johnny knows the score, but Averey is in such an easily manipulated state that Wes was able to push those buttons. That's why his troll game is solid.
As for the Jonna thing, she's simply average -- not great, not terrible. Most seasons she's pretty consistently in the middle, but this season has seen her really suck. A lot of that has to do with Zach being a *********, but even at her optimum state Jonna is a good puzzle person and that's about it. I don't really see her being on Nany's level -- except for puzzles I'd take Nany hands down. I think Jemmye is a good comparison as far as overall aptitude, though Jemmye is a bit better physically while Jonna is more intelligent. But saying Jonna is equal to Nany is similar to saying that Jay Cutler is equal to Tony Romo.
Eh I wouldn't go that far saying Jemmye is better , just look at this season she out preformed her in every mission. Jemmye is far worse than Jonna
jemmye looks like shes a bit out of shape this season but i think she was okay in the past. she and nany were the two most acclaimed rookies on seasons based off of what cast mates seemed ot be saying
Johnny is a pretty ****** partner too, he.said things just to hurt Averey and laughed in her face.
Lol no where near as bad as the others and he never acts unsupportive when they compete together. He really believes Averey cheated on him so I'm surprised he's not more heated towards her.
He's still a immature person and a terrible partner, they reason they never won a mission is because they don't work well together because he resents her. The whole cheating thing is complex but he is by no means a good partner. IMO for worst it goes Zach Jordan Johnny.
They don't work well together because they both resent each other... It isn't his fault they haven't won a challenge. He believes she cheated and she is mad over the Nany thing. They actually both work decent together in the challenges given their situation. He isn't a ****** partner at all especially compared to the other cast members.
I don't know if this was posted yet but Fun facts from yesterday based off twitter is that Sarah was puking for over an hour and Wes and Theresa won by 45 min. However if Sarah & Jordan did not lose their piece W&T would have only won by 2 min or so. Based off the time stamp it took W&T about 2:30 give or take a few minutes meaning they were waiting around for over 3 hours for the challenge to finish. Jay and Jenna also went up and down 9 times which was over 9 miles total.
I KNEW that this challenge episode would be better without Bananas. lol. there was a lot of couple drama and an exilherating mission. plus Leroy and Nia didn't do bad or mediocre for a change. ive only watched 80% of it. i havent seen the second half of the elimination between Johnny and Avery & Britt and Adam.
I don't know if this was posted yet but Fun facts from yesterday based off twitter is that Sarah was puking for over an hour and Wes and Theresa won by 45 min. However if Sarah & Jordan did not lose their piece W&T would have only won by 2 min or so. Based off the time stamp it took W&T about 2:30 give or take a few minutes meaning they were waiting around for over 3 hours for the challenge to finish.
Sarah/Jordan would have won if Sarah wasn't puking but Wes and 10&2 did a **** of a job.
That was a great challenge. I'm so over the swimming challenges so it was nice to see something different.
Am I the only one who didn't mind the absence of Bananas and Nany in this episode? If the Wes/Avery/Reilly convo didn't go on, I wouldn't have even thought about them this episode.
Yeah I think Johnny R is hilarious!!! I really hope he's a regular!! I love Averey as well!
Easily Zach.
Jordan and Sarah have had good communication this whole season. But Jordan just got frustrated because sbebwas stopping and throwing up.
Zach has been talking down to Jonna and having no support or respect for her in the slightest. And it showed in her game this episode. She wasn't there at all mentally.
I definitely didn't miss BaNany during this episode. There was enough going on. Hard not to think of bananas though because he tweeted #freebanany the whole time. It makes me think of the rivals one reunion when he kept sighing because he wasn't the center of attention when the host was talking to the girls about their drama.
Adam said on Afterbuzz that people who have competed in finals before said this was the hardest challenge they've ever done and even harder than finals they've competed in.
Am I the only one who didn't mind the absence of Bananas and Nany in this episode? If the Wes/Avery/Reilly convo didn't go on, I wouldn't have even thought about them this episode.
This was an awesome challenge. It reminded me of the logs on Battle of the Seasons. Zach needs to **** and hopefully he takes a 2 season break. If I was Jonna, I would've hit him already. Lol
Read Jasmine. Jonna consistently performed well but was held back. Seasons 2 Jonna did far better than Nany. In Rivals 2 who was the lead girl--it was Jonna but that was only Nany's second challenge so it is understandable. Jonna was one of only two girls that did anything on the third mission of FA (too bad Jordan's ego ****** it up) . Nany did well at the end of FA when she got paired with Theresa and Bananas...but Seasons 2 Jonna was definitely far better--you can try to dismiss that as Nany's first challenge
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And again, can you give examples of this, because I'm not seeing Jonna doing far better than Nany on Seasons 2. Hmmm, where did you get that Jonna was the lead girl on Rivals 2? Didn't get that impression at all, some more concrete examples would be nice here.
i dont know why people are giving jonna much credit for rivals 1. had things gone according to plan she wouldnt even have made it past episode 4. she was saved by the HUGE disparity in competitive abilities between theresa/camila and her own team. basically she and jasmine sucked so bad that they had to keep her around. there is also this myth that they never got last place either. uh, they did on almost every single male day though i guess you can give them credit for getting SECOND to last on every females day outside of the first mission.
jonna did kick *** on seasons and rivals 2 just like nany. i remember right after seasons people were raving about nanys abilities saying that she was going to be some upcoming supercompetitor because of what she did on seasons but i dont remember hearing anything about jonna. both nany and jonna made cara look like **** on rivals 2 IMO. overall i consider her a cut below nany though. jonna's lack of physical formidability and recently revealed inability to swim is way too much of a liability. she's a good competitor but WAY too specialized in her strengths while someone like nany's abilities are more broad based with no real apparent weaknesses even if she might not be the best at something. i would like to see how cara does on her next challenge before we really place her because as far as i can see, if we are judging only her most recent performance then she's great but if we are ***essing her whole sphere of work then she looks pretty bad compared to almost everyone mentioned here. An F(FM2)+D(Cutthroat)+C(Rivals)+D(Exes)+C(Seasons)+C(Rivals2)+A(FreeAgents) does NOT equal an A grade overall lol
i think susie vs jonna would be an interesting match up.
V123!!!! <3
I realized that Johnny R is hilarious.
He kept it 100 tonight. Favorite parts of the episode are all him.
1 ) He congratulates Adam on holding the 300 lb. Trap because only the boys know how heavy it is lol
2) when she wanted it open for 30 seconds he said "Oh thats like hitting the lottery" once again as a lifter i can only imagine how heavy that is lol.
3) When he screams "I am HERCULES"
And when Avery starts bugging out about going into the dome and makes a huge deal out of it. Johnny say "Its a game" " Its johnny and Avery not just my fault. Johnny he was completely correct this whole episode and handled it like a boss, I really hope he rings that bell first.
Johnny R has gained a fan because that dude is real and funny as ****.
Yeah I think Johnny R is hilarious!!! I really hope he's a regular!! I love Averey as well!
Also wow is Zach a ******, if that guy actually had some humble traits and could communicate without being a huge sissy **** he would do well. I felt bad for Jonna, that mission was hard as **** from both sides of the court. Instead of being a **** why dint he help her remember the puzzle?and lead her and be the ol mighty player he claims to be.
Hes gotta go, he ruins so much of this great show.
Who is worse partner? Zach or Jordan?
***** **** that's a hard one!! They both suck at encouraging their partners. They are both childish but Zach takes the cake.
Elimination wise I'd feel more comfortable having Zach as a partner if its something physical
Johnny is a pretty ****** partner too, he.said things just to hurt Averey and laughed in her face.
It's Johnny's fault they are in the elimination due to his alliance, but Averey was masterfully manipulated by Wes. Wes made the proper call to go with Johnny and Averey, as he needs to whittle down the numbers on the other side. Because he needs Johnny and Averey to lose and they are a solid team, Wes planted that seed of doubt into Averey, who is such an emotional wreck about Johnny below the surface that of course she had to get emotional and bring it to that place. The best chance of Averey and Johnny losing to Adam and Brittany are by them not being united as a team, which is precisely why Wes phrased it the way he did. Johnny knows the score, but Averey is in such an easily manipulated state that Wes was able to push those buttons. That's why his troll game is solid.
As for the Jonna thing, she's simply average -- not great, not terrible. Most seasons she's pretty consistently in the middle, but this season has seen her really suck. A lot of that has to do with Zach being a *********, but even at her optimum state Jonna is a good puzzle person and that's about it. I don't really see her being on Nany's level -- except for puzzles I'd take Nany hands down. I think Jemmye is a good comparison as far as overall aptitude, though Jemmye is a bit better physically while Jonna is more intelligent. But saying Jonna is equal to Nany is similar to saying that Jay Cutler is equal to Tony Romo.
Lol no where near as bad as the others and he never acts unsupportive when they compete together.
He really believes Averey cheated on him so I'm surprised he's not more heated towards her.
He's still a immature person and a terrible partner, they reason they never won a mission is because they don't work well together because he resents her. The whole cheating thing is complex but he is by no means a good partner. IMO for worst it goes Zach Jordan Johnny.
Eh I wouldn't go that far saying Jemmye is better , just look at this season she out preformed her in every mission. Jemmye is far worse than Jonna
Zach hands down. Out of missions he clearly has no respect for her as well. The way he treats her is also reflected in other people as well.
jemmye looks like shes a bit out of shape this season but i think she was okay in the past. she and nany were the two most acclaimed rookies on seasons based off of what cast mates seemed ot be saying
Yeah, this was really the first time we saw Jordan act like a **** to his partner this season. Zach has done it on pretty much every mission
They don't work well together because they both resent each other... It isn't his fault they haven't won a challenge. He believes she cheated and she is mad over the Nany thing. They actually both work decent together in the challenges given their situation. He isn't a ****** partner at all especially compared to the other cast members.
Zach....
Jordan was a **** to Sarah this challenge but Zach has been awful every single time.
I don't know if this was posted yet but Fun facts from yesterday based off twitter is that Sarah was puking for over an hour and Wes and Theresa won by 45 min. However if Sarah & Jordan did not lose their piece W&T would have only won by 2 min or so. Based off the time stamp it took W&T about 2:30 give or take a few minutes meaning they were waiting around for over 3 hours for the challenge to finish. Jay and Jenna also went up and down 9 times which was over 9 miles total.
Jordan wasn't mean to Sarah tbh. no different than what a collegiate coach would do to his star player if he/she wasn't performing to there best.
I KNEW that this challenge episode would be better without Bananas. lol. there was a lot of couple drama and an exilherating mission. plus Leroy and Nia didn't do bad or mediocre for a change. ive only watched 80% of it. i havent seen the second half of the elimination between Johnny and Avery & Britt and Adam.
Sarah/Jordan would have won if Sarah wasn't puking but Wes and 10&2 did a **** of a job.
That was a great challenge. I'm so over the swimming challenges so it was nice to see something different.
Am I the only one who didn't mind the absence of Bananas and Nany in this episode? If the Wes/Avery/Reilly convo didn't go on, I wouldn't have even thought about them this episode.
Easily Zach.
Jordan and Sarah have had good communication this whole season. But Jordan just got frustrated because sbebwas stopping and throwing up.
Zach has been talking down to Jonna and having no support or respect for her in the slightest. And it showed in her game this episode. She wasn't there at all mentally.
I definitely didn't miss BaNany during this episode. There was enough going on. Hard not to think of bananas though because he tweeted #freebanany the whole time. It makes me think of the rivals one reunion when he kept sighing because he wasn't the center of attention when the host was talking to the girls about their drama.
Adam said on Afterbuzz that people who have competed in finals before said this was the hardest challenge they've ever done and even harder than finals they've competed in.
I didn't mind it either, not one bit.
This was an awesome challenge. It reminded me of the logs on Battle of the Seasons. Zach needs to **** and hopefully he takes a 2 season break. If I was Jonna, I would've hit him already. Lol
Zach is but Jordan's not far behind
Wrong--and I played collegiate and junior hockey. You can't be more wrong
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