they had a relationship but that he milked their interactions for publicity and brought cameras around.
This is odd statement....they have been on TV off and on since 2006.....so plenty of camera time for both.
Diem was all over the media outlets.......CT posted a on Instagram late in the battle and past that point was very quite on the relationship.
Whatever
I think Veronica just wants to stay relevant and is commenting. I couldn't DM her back because she isn't following me. She said the relationship wasn't fake but he milked their interactions, brought cameras around, and publicized it.
If CT wanted to publicize anything he would be doing interviews after her death. But instead besides a post on Instagram and a Twitter post he's been silent. I'm sure many magazines and networks wanted his take. So to me Veronica is not credible.
But in the end his instagram posts that some felt were over the top(questioning his motives) , i think him breaking down and losing it over diem's health scare on the show shows that his feelings were completely geniune. Not that anyone here doubted it, but i think it was nice to see that what actually happened, backs his feelings he tried to share on IG. He was deeply in love with her. He was trying to be a better man for her...it's just sad we never got to those future plans happen.
One thought I had when watching her departure from Panama......CT and Diem were together and in control of the relationship until she departed to NY. Lets keep in mind once she went to the hospital back in the US her family and friends basically took control of the situation I would suspect CT felt a bit abandoned with no true way to help. Questioning his motives to me is a bunch of nonsense (correct term is BS), those same friends and family members were all over People Magazine, E!, US Mag, MTV......alot of folks were in the tabloids and CT was not talking other than Instagram which I do not fell was over the top......and he is still not talking today......think those same tabloids ae not offering him money for interviews? They would love to get him to discuss their relationship.......and he is radio silent.
I noticed the food too. I also hadn't seen CT's eyes pop out like they did this ep, in years.... so sad. One thing I wished we would have seen more of was reaction of some of the others that were close to her. In fact, I was surprised we got so many reaction shots of Jenna or Britanny when someone like Wes or Knight would have been feeling a lot at the time too. I get it was edited to show the couple, but many on the cast were close to her.
I was actually also very touched by Bananas and CT leaning on each other - or maybe even Johnny comforting CT and even hugging his head when they found out. Johnny hasn't made any indication on CT/Diem, but him saying to CT while he was packing "you being there is prob going to help a lot dude" just meant that even he understood their bond. And maybe they were the only two who knew about the cancer, dunno.
Also, did this article get posted? Banana's speaking about Diem and that she found out about the cancer around her birthday. If he knew one would assume that CT did too. And it would make sense that she found out from the time of her cat scan pics on Insta.
I also think BM was making it a point not to show footage of anyone discussing that Diem had cancer. Hence why Johnny said "knowing her current medical situation". Nany said Johnny cried to her and told her D had cancer again. That scene would have been huge to show on so many levels so it wasn't shown for a reason.
I had Veronica DM me about why she tweeted what she did. I for some reason cannot post the convo on here from my iPhone. I asked why she said the relationship was fake. She said:
they had a relationship but that he milked their interactions for publicity and brought cameras around. Not sure if you can see the post I pasted. I've been on this site for years this is the first time ever posting.
I wish I could see the conversation.
It truly bothers me that she said CT was doing anything for publicity. As far as him bringing cameras around, the only time we saw a photo of him with DIem was once and that is while they were in the hospital. Did the pic create attention; yes, but I think that was partially his attention. He was trying to bring awareness to Diem's medgift and generate traffic there in order to support DIem. Other than that, he didnt post anything disrespectful or exploitative.
I think people forget that CT didn't take the picture. How the heck could he, he was sleeping! Someone who saw them in the hospital together obviously thought it was a touching moment and snapped the pic and sent it to him. And it had to be someone who was close to Diem too. When it come to CT, people throw all logic out the door to justify their dislike for him.
Publicity for what? MedGift? People are still speculating whether they were ever back together because Diem and CT never confirmed it. If he "milked it for publicity" he did a very poor job. The first time he posted a photo confirming they were more than exes was the hospital photo 6 weeks into her being sick, and it had a MedGift banner on it. Did any of you check MedGift the days before that photo was posted and the days after? Well, I did and I can tell you that donations right before had really dwindled down and were few and far between, there was a HUGE spike when that picture was posted, something like $6,000 in 2 days. People shared that photo again and again and in sharing it, shared MedGift.
I think it's clear that Veronica just doesn't like CT.
Hello by the way. First time poster, long time lurker.
Publicity for what? MedGift? People are still speculating whether they were ever back together because Diem and CT never confirmed it. If he "milked it for publicity" he did a very poor job. The first time he posted a photo confirming they were more than exes was the hospital photo 6 weeks into her being sick, and it had a MedGift banner on it. Did any of you check MedGift the days before that photo was posted and the days after? Well, I did and I can tell you that donations right before had really dwindled down and were few and far between, there was a HUGE spike when that picture was posted, something like $6,000 in 2 days. People shared that photo again and again and in sharing it, shared MedGift.
I think it's clear that Veronica just doesn't like CT.
Hello by the way. First time poster, long time lurker.
Publicity for what? MedGift? People are still speculating whether they were ever back together because Diem and CT never confirmed it. If he "milked it for publicity" he did a very poor job. The first time he posted a photo confirming they were more than exes was the hospital photo 6 weeks into her being sick, and it had a MedGift banner on it. Did any of you check MedGift the days before that photo was posted and the days after? Well, I did and I can tell you that donations right before had really dwindled down and were few and far between, there was a HUGE spike when that picture was posted, something like $6,000 in 2 days. People shared that photo again and again and in sharing it, shared MedGift.
I think it's clear that Veronica just doesn't like CT.
Hello by the way. First time poster, long time lurker.
Full agree....I stated before that one photo did more for MedGift than anything previous.....it was all over the magazines and internet.....marketing 101. And as stated CT did not take the photo, someone took it of them and gave it to him......and fully agree that CT is doing an incredibly poor job of cashing in if that is his intention.....Lurk On!
What did Veronica even say? I been reading over this the last few pages and still don't know what everyone's talking about
Maybe they just didn't have good footage from other people. The ones they chose happened to be her roomates and were close with her in the house, so they were likely more concerned since no one knew how serious it was at the time? Idk
Still annoying. I don't care what irrelevant *** Simone or the AYTO guys have to say about anything being that we probably won't see them back ever again. If it's not the vets, I don't care.
I totally agree. And maybe that was the poing of the We love Diem special, getting footage from her friends. But I still would liked to have had the footage from while it was happening and it felt really wrong when they kept cutting to Brittany or Jenna. But you know, maybe BM/Producers were actually giving the Vets a bit of space as they were dealing with it? Could the people that gave Diem such a bad edit in Rivals actually it be that respectful?
Whomever said it earlier, I do wonder if TJ said that CT had to go so formally because they knew he wouldn't stay - and it fit the format of the game. Because they had many of people they could replace Diem with as a partner... and hell it didn't really have to be an Ex, and could have been fan favorite Cara Maria who was literally sitting around waiting for the call (remember when they brought Mike Ross, LeRoys BFF, to replace Adam in Rivals. that pair didn't fit the format). In this case, I think producers would have wanted CT/Cara in it more than no CT at all for ratings-wise.
Finally, something that bothered me a few pages back -- when we were talking about Johnny being supportive of CT: I believe it was actually Zach that CT was telling him to leave alone while he was drunk packing in the closet. I don't think that was Johnny he turned away. I think that there is a reason he worried with Johnny so much, as they were the only ones who may have known/understood.
Is anyone going to this? It seems like it's a good workout for a good cause so I'm thinking about going to the NYC one, but I don't wanna go by myself. My sister would probably like to go, but she's also probably busy. I'll ask her just in case, but I also figured I'd see if anyone from here was going.
If you get a moment, check this out! It is really awesome and something I think Diem would be very proud of! Donate if you can, but if you cant pass the word on.
In regards to Veronica's comments, I think the statements she's making is coming from information her friend Julie Rotondi may have said to her, who was Diem's primary caregiver the last three months of her life, why else would she feel the need to comment on a situation she personally knows nothing about, considering she never visited Diem from her hospitalization to her death and never was in close or consistent contact with Diem prior to her collapse
In regards to Veronica's comments, I think the statements she's making is coming from information her friend Julie Rotondi may have said to her, who was Diem's primary caregiver the last three months of her life, why else would she feel the need to comment on a situation she personally knows nothing about, considering she never visited Diem from her hospitalization to her death and never was in close or consistent contact with Diem prior to her collapse
Veronica could have asked people who have no idea that they even got back together, could be acquaintances, friends from LA, or even challenge poeple. not everyone knew outside of there close friends/family. Just let it go. Who cares what Veronica thinks. Another people article can come out tomorrow about how diem was single and it woudln't change a thing, i wish this topic(ct and diem were they or weren't they) would end. it's bad enough she can't get her white picket fence and kids, i don' t think diem woudl approve of all this questionining of CT from anyone that she knew. I don't even mean you either at all so dont think i am criticizing you, it's just a general statement.
Why is CT painted as a huge opportunist for 2 ig posts, and jemmye is doing people interviews, mtv aftershows, and that's completley fine? see the skewed logic? I am not saying for the record that it's wrong of Jemmye to do that, but that's the exact thing people are accusing CT of doing and is having him labeled an "opportunist". Well Knight did have a serious gf ...
People just love to hate on ct bc of things he's done in the past. I am sure CT would be advertising the kroll show and other projects if he felt up to it, but he obviosuly still doesn't, he hasn't used any of this in anyway to help himself. He did the hosptial post as someone here mentioned, in order to spread awareness to medgift to help with diems bills. CT and diem are the big draw, so he helped her out by posting that and coming from him it drew a ton of attention. Well he also did it because he cares deeply about her but i mean like his motives weren't to feel sorry for him, it was to help diem's cause.
To the people who doubt it to this day, there never will be a satisfactory resolution. It will never "officiallly" be clarified. It just is endless speculation over and over..
are Veronica and Julie friends? They don't follow each other on twitter from what I could tell. What would make you think it was Julie? Julie doesnt seem like the type of person who would make a comment about CT bringing cameras around all the time, when it's not true. She loved Diem and I doubt she would say anything that was untruthful about their relationship. Plus, no offense to Veronica, but Julie seems way out of Veronica's "friend league". I just never liked Veronica, and I think she was trying to bring attention to herself seeing how much attention CT and Diem were getting. But who knows.. I could be way off, I dont know these people, so I only have opinions of what I see on TV or read/hear about. I could be the one looking stupid here.. especially if Veronica and Julie are friends lol..
Is anyone going to this? It seems like it's a good workout for a good cause so I'm thinking about going to the NYC one, but I don't wanna go by myself. My sister would probably like to go, but she's also probably busy. I'll ask her just in case, but I also figured I'd see if anyone from here was going.
Oh please do! I wish I could but unfortunately I can't make it so I am just donating. I intend to keep intouch with the girls on events planned in Diems memory - perhaps next year will start a team for the Boston portion of this event - not enough time to build team or rearrange work in a weeks time for this one What area are you in? I will make sure to inform you of any other events as well
"Keeping @diembrown's legacy alive in another way that was close to her heart. Almost everything was out of our control in the final 3 months - but one of the things that we could control was making sure she looked damn good even when she was struggling. She loved and appreciated every spray paint, stud, jewel and sticker bedazzling session more than you could imagine. In her words, it motivated her to stand, walk and not feel like the sick patient. She said and posted "it's the little things" so many times. One of the things we planned to do when she was healthy again was to do same for other young people battling this nightmare... To go to hospitals armed with bags of Michael's crafts, steal their equipment for a short time and return them pimped out and bedazzled..and just do whatever we could to get them smiling and motivated again, even for a day. Enough with all of the focus and fund raising money going to research! Focus on right now too." Every Tuesday for the remainder of #battleoftheexes2 we will be auctioning off some of Diem's #MTV stuff and eventually some of her warrior "equipment" to raise money to carry out this plan we had.
"Keeping @diembrown's legacy alive in another way that was close to her heart. Almost everything was out of our control in the final 3 months - but one of the things that we could control was making sure she looked damn good even when she was struggling. She loved and appreciated every spray paint, stud, jewel and sticker bedazzling session more than you could imagine. In her words, it motivated her to stand, walk and not feel like the sick patient. She said and posted "it's the little things" so many times. One of the things we planned to do when she was healthy again was to do same for other young people battling this nightmare... To go to hospitals armed with bags of Michael's crafts, steal their equipment for a short time and return them pimped out and bedazzled..and just do whatever we could to get them smiling and motivated again, even for a day. Enough with all of the focus and fund raising money going to research! Focus on right now too." Every Tuesday for the remainder of #battleoftheexes2 we will be auctioning off some of Diem's #MTV stuff and eventually some of her warrior "equipment" to raise money to carry out this plan we had.
In regards to Veronica's comments, I think the statements she's making is coming from information her friend Julie Rotondi may have said to her, who was Diem's primary caregiver the last three months of her life, why else would she feel the need to comment on a situation she personally knows nothing about, considering she never visited Diem from her hospitalization to her death and never was in close or consistent contact with Diem prior to her collapse
If Veronica was so certain of her convictions she would not have taken her twitter post down.
As for all of this speculation there really is no true answer until either family speaks out and I highly doubt that ever happens. I would state this, Diem knew she had cancer when she departed for the Challenge, and yet she chose to go with CT, she did not go with any other person......it was her stated dream of winning the money and possibly having children.....why would anyone who knew they had an incredibly serious disease go to partipate in this event with anyone other than who they truly wanted to be with?
Her previous boyfriend looks financially stable, why not stay home with him and just begin adapting children while getting the required medical care? That did not happen.....so the comments about having this great other boyfrend while she is hanging with CT and trying to win "The Challenge" (in order to afford children) are completely illogical....
I can just imagine my girlfriend who happens to be deathly ill, advising me that she has decided to go to Panama with her on again / off again boyfriend of 9 years to try win money to have our children......that my friends is what you call the elephant in the room
Oh please do! I wish I could but unfortunately I can't make it so I am just donating. I intend to keep intouch with the girls on events planned in Diems memory - perhaps next year will start a team for the Boston portion of this event - not enough time to build team or rearrange work in a weeks time for this one What area are you in? I will make sure to inform you of any other events as well
I read this and went, "Wait, a week?! I thought this was in March!" haha. It is March in NY, but next week in Boston. I live on Long Island, so any events in the NYC area are easy to get to plus my sister is an ovarian cancer survivor so she might be interested too, so if you hear of anything it'd be great if you could pass the info along. Thanks!!
Oh please do! I wish I could but unfortunately I can't make it so I am just donating. I intend to keep intouch with the girls on events planned in Diems memory - perhaps next year will start a team for the Boston portion of this event - not enough time to build team or rearrange work in a weeks time for this one What area are you in? I will make sure to inform you of any other events as well
I read this and went, "Wait, a week?! I thought this was in March!" haha. It is March in NY, but next week in Boston. I live on Long Island, so any events in the NYC area are easy to get to plus my sister is an ovarian cancer survivor so she might be interested too, so if you hear of anything it'd be great if you could pass the info along. Thanks!!
lol sorry to freak you out! I do hope you and your sister get to participate! Got to wonder who arranged the event for Boston in the first week of FEBRUARY - we are anticipating snow on three days of the next 7 all 6 - 12" in addition to the feet we are currently cleaning up - UGH! To be clear I am 40 mins south of Boston in RI - I just keep repeating 51 days until spring
Seriously?? This thread is for remembering Diem not tearing her life apart, or was I mistaken? Veronica is a nutcase. Why is she being given any credibility? I saw no picture of her sleeping by Diem's bed nor did Diem ever say she loved her since the day she met her or she gave her confidence... Where was Veronica at Diem's birthday party? Or on vacations, doctors visits? Or at the funeral? Find even one tweet to or about Veronica...good luck... there are plenty to Paula, Cara, Aneesa, Laurel, Ashley, Brittany, Robin, Kina, Camilla, Emily... and many others... it is enough with her. Diem & CT have spoken their piece - anything else is garbage. If you cared about her at all respect that she was private for exactly this reason. There are multiple things being done to actually remember \ honor Diem if anyone is still interested in more than gossip...
or call out your own inner Diem do something nice for a stranger, reach out to someone who isn't feeling well, go read to kids in the hospital but do something other than gossip please or at least do it on a different page.
"Seriously??" somebody asked a question about a patricular tweet so to stop that person fromasking about 1 million other times, I posted a verion of it. "Seriously??"... I have no intention of discussing the tweet further but I "Seriously??" just wanted that person to see it and be done.... And the nerve of somebody to question if anyone is doing for Diem... I spent my last $300 that had for books and a charger (for school, mind you) to donate to Diem as soon as her medgift page was created. i don't know about anyone here but I am a senior in college and I needed that money but Diem was my favorite person on television and an angel on earth so I donated and ate instant Ramen and worked extra hours that week. Please.
Nobody is "gossiping' This thred will eventually talk about topics that are not directly related to Diem's charities and that is fine. As long as the conversation remains respectful and does not dwell too much than what's the problem? Some people here are writing essays on somebody's relationship they were never in and no one bats an eyelid! But ohhhhh mention one thing that is not about CT's relationships or Diem's charity and all of a sudden people want to get mad. I've already said my peace about that tweet and belive me I could not care less about it or the person who wrote it but don't sit there and accuse me of something because the conversation didn't go exactly the way you wanted it to go. And Karisa, if you must delete some parts of this but not the whole thing because some of this needs to be said to those who have a horse that sits too high.
The nerve, the nerve, the nerve! The things I would say if this wasn't Diem's thread smh.
Seriously?? This thread is for remembering Diem not tearing her life apart, or was I mistaken? Veronica is a nutcase. Why is she being given any credibility? I saw no picture of her sleeping by Diem's bed nor did Diem ever say she loved her since the day she met her or she gave her confidence... Where was Veronica at Diem's birthday party? Or on vacations, doctors visits? Or at the funeral? Find even one tweet to or about Veronica...good luck... there are plenty to Paula, Cara, Aneesa, Laurel, Ashley, Brittany, Robin, Kina, Camilla, Emily... and many others... it is enough with her. Diem & CT have spoken their piece - anything else is garbage. If you cared about her at all respect that she was private for exactly this reason. There are multiple things being done to actually remember \ honor Diem if anyone is still interested in more than gossip...
or call out your own inner Diem do something nice for a stranger, reach out to someone who isn't feeling well, go read to kids in the hospital but do something other than gossip please or at least do it on a different page.
I spent my last $300 that had for books and a charger (for school, mind you) to donate to Diem as soon as her medgift page was created. i don't know about anyone here but I am a senior in college and I needed that money but Diem was my favorite person on television and an angel on earth so I donated and ate instant Ramen and worked extra hours that week.
Just wanted to say that this touched me. I'm in school and on a limited income and it felt like it was hard for me to pull together 25 dollars to give but I did...then I recently ordered a Diem shirt from Johnny B's website...so that rounds my donation total to about 50...wish I could have done more...so for you to give $300 while in school is impressive. I know your not looking for praise for it though or attention....you donated because you genuinely love Diem.....but I just wanted to say that is all.
As for the rest....I don't want to insert myself into any argument...I will just say that I think all of us are still missing Diem...it's still tough and so we are all naturally on a hair trigger with our emotions....myself included at times....so my general message to everyone is to try to kind of step back and don't overreact about things....and remember we all loved Diem and we all have that in common.
Stefx23, your reply was so nice. Thank you for taking the time to acknowledge AyeOhKay's sacrifice on behalf of MedGift. I admire everyone's positive efforts to support Diem's legacy through donations of time, money and commentary about her incredible life.
I share SemiSweet's frustration about the nitpicking that has gone on in this thread; it's the reason I've limited my activity. I don't believe her post was directed to AyeOhKay but I, too, have taken posting here personally when in retrospect, it may not have been intended in the way I viewed it. Stefx23 hit the nail on the head when she said (bolded below) that many of us are still emotionally raw and grieving for a person we admired greatly.
A few of us have had a connection with Diem that went beyond watching her on television and following her on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. Although we may not have been Face to Face friends, we became friends nonetheless. Because her personal relationships were kept private, we walk a fine line in respecting that desire and trying to right wrong information. It goes back to honoring her legacy, part of which involved her plans for her future with MedGift and the White Picket Fence dream.
Thanks for listening!
I spent my last $300 that had for books and a charger (for school, mind you) to donate to Diem as soon as her medgift page was created. i don't know about anyone here but I am a senior in college and I needed that money but Diem was my favorite person on television and an angel on earth so I donated and ate instant Ramen and worked extra hours that week.
Just wanted to say that this touched me. I'm in school and on a limited income and it felt like it was hard for me to pull together 25 dollars to give but I did...then I recently ordered a Diem shirt from Johnny B's website...so that rounds my donation total to about 50...wish I could have done more...so for you to give $300 while in school is impressive. I know your not looking for praise for it though or attention....you donated because you genuinely love Diem.....but I just wanted to say that is all.
As for the rest....I don't want to insert myself into any argument...I will just say that I think all of us are still missing Diem...it's still tough and so we are all naturally on a hair trigger with our emotions....myself included at times....so my general message to everyone is to try to kind of step back and don't overreact about things....and remember we all loved Diem and we all have that in common.
Stefx23, your reply was so nice. Thank you for taking the time to acknowledge AyeOhKay's sacrifice on behalf of MedGift. I admire everyone's positive efforts to support Diem's legacy through donations of time, money and commentary about her incredible life.
I share SemiSweet's frustration about the nitpicking that has gone on in this thread; it's the reason I've limited my activity. I don't believe her post was directed to AyeOhKay but I, too, have taken posting here personally when in retrospect, it may not have been intended in the way I viewed it. Stefx23 hit the nail on the head when she said (bolded below) that many of us are still emotionally raw and grieving for a person we admired greatly.
A few of us have had a connection with Diem that went beyond watching her on television and following her on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. Although we may not have been Face to Face friends, we became friends nonetheless. Because her personal relationships were kept private, we walk a fine line in respecting that desire and trying to right wrong information. It goes back to honoring her legacy, part of which involved her plans for her future with MedGift and the White Picket Fence dream.
Thanks for listening!
I spent my last $300 that had for books and a charger (for school, mind you) to donate to Diem as soon as her medgift page was created. i don't know about anyone here but I am a senior in college and I needed that money but Diem was my favorite person on television and an angel on earth so I donated and ate instant Ramen and worked extra hours that week.
Just wanted to say that this touched me. I'm in school and on a limited income and it felt like it was hard for me to pull together 25 dollars to give but I did...then I recently ordered a Diem shirt from Johnny B's website...so that rounds my donation total to about 50...wish I could have done more...so for you to give $300 while in school is impressive. I know your not looking for praise for it though or attention....you donated because you genuinely love Diem.....but I just wanted to say that is all.
As for the rest....I don't want to insert myself into any argument...I will just say that I think all of us are still missing Diem...it's still tough and so we are all naturally on a hair trigger with our emotions....myself included at times....so my general message to everyone is to try to kind of step back and don't overreact about things....and remember we all loved Diem and we all have that in common.
nmanderson, Thank you. I have noticed many regular commenters have taken leave and when contacted privately they share the same sentiment. You know me well enough to understand my frustration & intent. I have addressed this with AyeOhKay privately - as I will not engage in bickering here. Anyone who has been here (Vevmo in general & this thread in particular) knows I love Diemand I feel this thread has on occasion gone from respectful to seedy. I also know many folks here are students and would never judge someone based on what (or if) they have donated... everyone has their own struggles and it is not my place to determine what they should be doing. How the heck would I know? I bring up those things to remind people that this was started to remember and honor her & also inform people who may be in a position to particpate or donate. I try to remember to always end with or just be more like her... be kind, reach out to people...
Diem hated being picked apart and was especially offended by many things that were said about her on vevmo... I just hate seeing people continue to question things that are as plain as the noses on their faces because anyone who can give a legit answer is not going to do so...so anyone who offers up some unsolicited crap to stir things up, should be treated like they are just stirring things up. They aren't showing any love or respect. I try to remember to think before repeating (Is it True, Helpful, Inspiring, Necessary, Kind)
I really loved Knight's message to Diem on CT's little box (you could see it while Johnny Reiley was signing):
"Beautiful, you're one of the strongest individuals I have ever met. Can't wait to see you back in the house. Love, Knight."
I got teary-eyed when I saw that he (and his family) had requested that any donations in his name go to MedGift. Also really felt for CT because if Knight had such respect for Diem it probably also spoke to the relationship that CT and Knight had as friends.
100 times YES!!! This is so on point!!
I also think BM was making it a point not to show footage of anyone discussing that Diem had cancer. Hence why Johnny said "knowing her current medical situation". Nany said Johnny cried to her and told her D had cancer again. That scene would have been huge to show on so many levels so it wasn't shown for a reason.
I think people forget that CT didn't take the picture. How the heck could he, he was sleeping! Someone who saw them in the hospital together obviously thought it was a touching moment and snapped the pic and sent it to him. And it had to be someone who was close to Diem too. When it come to CT, people throw all logic out the door to justify their dislike for him.
Veronica needs a stadium full of seats smh.
Publicity for what? MedGift? People are still speculating whether they were ever back together because Diem and CT never confirmed it. If he "milked it for publicity" he did a very poor job. The first time he posted a photo confirming they were more than exes was the hospital photo 6 weeks into her being sick, and it had a MedGift banner on it. Did any of you check MedGift the days before that photo was posted and the days after? Well, I did and I can tell you that donations right before had really dwindled down and were few and far between, there was a HUGE spike when that picture was posted, something like $6,000 in 2 days. People shared that photo again and again and in sharing it, shared MedGift.
I think it's clear that Veronica just doesn't like CT.
Hello by the way. First time poster, long time lurker.
Welcome Jules!
Publicity for what? MedGift? People are still speculating whether they were ever back together because Diem and CT never confirmed it. If he "milked it for publicity" he did a very poor job. The first time he posted a photo confirming they were more than exes was the hospital photo 6 weeks into her being sick, and it had a MedGift banner on it. Did any of you check MedGift the days before that photo was posted and the days after? Well, I did and I can tell you that donations right before had really dwindled down and were few and far between, there was a HUGE spike when that picture was posted, something like $6,000 in 2 days. People shared that photo again and again and in sharing it, shared MedGift.
I think it's clear that Veronica just doesn't like CT.
Hello by the way. First time poster, long time lurker.
Full agree....I stated before that one photo did more for MedGift than anything previous.....it was all over the magazines and internet.....marketing 101. And as stated CT did not take the photo, someone took it of them and gave it to him......and fully agree that CT is doing an incredibly poor job of cashing in if that is his intention.....Lurk On!
Welcome Jules!
What did Veronica even say? I been reading over this the last few pages and still don't know what everyone's talking about
Still annoying. I don't care what irrelevant *** Simone or the AYTO guys have to say about anything being that we probably won't see them back ever again. If it's not the vets, I don't care.
I totally agree. And maybe that was the poing of the We love Diem special, getting footage from her friends. But I still would liked to have had the footage from while it was happening and it felt really wrong when they kept cutting to Brittany or Jenna. But you know, maybe BM/Producers were actually giving the Vets a bit of space as they were dealing with it? Could the people that gave Diem such a bad edit in Rivals actually it be that respectful?
Whomever said it earlier, I do wonder if TJ said that CT had to go so formally because they knew he wouldn't stay - and it fit the format of the game. Because they had many of people they could replace Diem with as a partner... and hell it didn't really have to be an Ex, and could have been fan favorite Cara Maria who was literally sitting around waiting for the call (remember when they brought Mike Ross, LeRoys BFF, to replace Adam in Rivals. that pair didn't fit the format). In this case, I think producers would have wanted CT/Cara in it more than no CT at all for ratings-wise.
Finally, something that bothered me a few pages back -- when we were talking about Johnny being supportive of CT: I believe it was actually Zach that CT was telling him to leave alone while he was drunk packing in the closet. I don't think that was Johnny he turned away. I think that there is a reason he worried with Johnny so much, as they were the only ones who may have known/understood.
Is anyone going to this? It seems like it's a good workout for a good cause so I'm thinking about going to the NYC one, but I don't wanna go by myself. My sister would probably like to go, but she's also probably busy. I'll ask her just in case, but I also figured I'd see if anyone from here was going.
If you get a moment, check this out! It is really awesome and something I think Diem would be very proud of! Donate if you can, but if you cant pass the word on.
http://spark.fsu.edu/Projects/122/Diem-Brown-Scholarship-Fund-
In regards to Veronica's comments, I think the statements she's making is coming from information her friend Julie Rotondi may have said to her, who was Diem's primary caregiver the last three months of her life, why else would she feel the need to comment on a situation she personally knows nothing about, considering she never visited Diem from her hospitalization to her death and never was in close or consistent contact with Diem prior to her collapse
Veronica could have asked people who have no idea that they even got back together, could be acquaintances, friends from LA, or even challenge poeple. not everyone knew outside of there close friends/family. Just let it go. Who cares what Veronica thinks. Another people article can come out tomorrow about how diem was single and it woudln't change a thing, i wish this topic(ct and diem were they or weren't they) would end. it's bad enough she can't get her white picket fence and kids, i don' t think diem woudl approve of all this questionining of CT from anyone that she knew. I don't even mean you either at all so dont think i am criticizing you, it's just a general statement.
Why is CT painted as a huge opportunist for 2 ig posts, and jemmye is doing people interviews, mtv aftershows, and that's completley fine? see the skewed logic? I am not saying for the record that it's wrong of Jemmye to do that, but that's the exact thing people are accusing CT of doing and is having him labeled an "opportunist". Well Knight did have a serious gf ...
People just love to hate on ct bc of things he's done in the past. I am sure CT would be advertising the kroll show and other projects if he felt up to it, but he obviosuly still doesn't, he hasn't used any of this in anyway to help himself. He did the hosptial post as someone here mentioned, in order to spread awareness to medgift to help with diems bills. CT and diem are the big draw, so he helped her out by posting that and coming from him it drew a ton of attention. Well he also did it because he cares deeply about her but i mean like his motives weren't to feel sorry for him, it was to help diem's cause.
To the people who doubt it to this day, there never will be a satisfactory resolution. It will never "officiallly" be clarified. It just is endless speculation over and over..
are Veronica and Julie friends? They don't follow each other on twitter from what I could tell. What would make you think it was Julie? Julie doesnt seem like the type of person who would make a comment about CT bringing cameras around all the time, when it's not true. She loved Diem and I doubt she would say anything that was untruthful about their relationship. Plus, no offense to Veronica, but Julie seems way out of Veronica's "friend league". I just never liked Veronica, and I think she was trying to bring attention to herself seeing how much attention CT and Diem were getting. But who knows.. I could be way off, I dont know these people, so I only have opinions of what I see on TV or read/hear about. I could be the one looking stupid here.. especially if Veronica and Julie are friends lol..
Oh please do! I wish I could but unfortunately I can't make it so I am just donating. I intend to keep intouch with the girls on events planned in Diems memory - perhaps next year will start a team for the Boston portion of this event - not enough time to build team or rearrange work in a weeks time for this one
What area are you in? I will make sure to inform you of any other events as well
Update from Diems sister Megan
"Keeping @diembrown's legacy alive in another way that was close to her heart. Almost everything was out of our control in the final 3 months - but one of the things that we could control was making sure she looked damn good even when she was struggling. She loved and appreciated every spray paint, stud, jewel and sticker bedazzling session more than you could imagine. In her words, it motivated her to stand, walk and not feel like the sick patient. She said and posted "it's the little things" so many times.
One of the things we planned to do when she was healthy again was to do same for other young people battling this nightmare... To go to hospitals armed with bags of Michael's crafts, steal their equipment for a short time and return them pimped out and bedazzled..and just do whatever we could to get them smiling and motivated again, even for a day. Enough with all of the focus and fund raising money going to research! Focus on right now too." Every Tuesday for the remainder of #battleoftheexes2 we will be auctioning off some of Diem's #MTV stuff and eventually some of her warrior "equipment" to raise money to carry out this plan we had.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/diembrown/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
This week has already jumped up pretty high but it is the first one so... kind of expected that...but I will be checking every week!
WOW! Good for them. Wish I had a way to help
If Veronica was so certain of her convictions she would not have taken her twitter post down.
As for all of this speculation there really is no true answer until either family speaks out and I highly doubt that ever happens. I would state this, Diem knew she had cancer when she departed for the Challenge, and yet she chose to go with CT, she did not go with any other person......it was her stated dream of winning the money and possibly having children.....why would anyone who knew they had an incredibly serious disease go to partipate in this event with anyone other than who they truly wanted to be with?
Her previous boyfriend looks financially stable, why not stay home with him and just begin adapting children while getting the required medical care? That did not happen.....so the comments about having this great other boyfrend while she is hanging with CT and trying to win "The Challenge" (in order to afford children) are completely illogical....
I can just imagine my girlfriend who happens to be deathly ill, advising me that she has decided to go to Panama with her on again / off again boyfriend of 9 years to try win money to have our children......that my friends is what you call the elephant in the room
I need a drink
I read this and went, "Wait, a week?! I thought this was in March!" haha. It is March in NY, but next week in Boston. I live on Long Island, so any events in the NYC area are easy to get to plus my sister is an ovarian cancer survivor so she might be interested too, so if you hear of anything it'd be great if you could pass the info along. Thanks!!
lol sorry to freak you out! I do hope you and your sister get to participate! Got to wonder who arranged the event for Boston in the first week of FEBRUARY - we are anticipating snow on three days of the next 7 all 6 - 12" in addition to the feet we are currently cleaning up - UGH!
To be clear I am 40 mins south of Boston in RI - I just keep repeating 51 days until spring
What the hell did Veronica say? Lolll
It's already been said but for people who missed it, it went a lil something like this:
"Diem and CT were NOT together. She had an amazing man in her life"
Seriously?? This thread is for remembering Diem not tearing her life apart, or was I mistaken? Veronica is a nutcase. Why is she being given any credibility? I saw no picture of her sleeping by Diem's bed nor did Diem ever say she loved her since the day she met her or she gave her confidence... Where was Veronica at Diem's birthday party? Or on vacations, doctors visits? Or at the funeral? Find even one tweet to or about Veronica...good luck... there are plenty to Paula, Cara, Aneesa, Laurel, Ashley, Brittany, Robin, Kina, Camilla, Emily... and many others... it is enough with her. Diem & CT have spoken their piece - anything else is garbage. If you cared about her at all respect that she was private for exactly this reason.
There are multiple things being done to actually remember \ honor Diem if anyone is still interested in more than gossip...
http://www.ebay.com/sch/diembrown/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from= Check every week throughout the remainder of the Challenge season
https://secure2.convio.net/mskcc/site/SPageServer/;jsessionid=08EEA71FAC860BA002B0182EB5F7762A.app271a?pagename=cycle_for_survival … (link is external) Join team DIEMSTRONG or just make donation
Diem Brown Scholarship Fund - SparkFSU http://spark.fsu.edu/Projects/122/Diem-Brown-Scholarship-Fund- …
Imy & Me Carpe Diem collection jewelry benefits MedGift http://www.imyandme.com/carpe-diem-collection.html
Diem Strong t-shirts to benefit MedGift http://www.realjohnnybananas.com/ http://instagram.com/p/yYiw00tFEt/?modal=true
oh yeah & there is always https://www.medgift.com/diemstrong
or call out your own inner Diem do something nice for a stranger, reach out to someone who isn't feeling well, go read to kids in the hospital but do something other than gossip please or at least do it on a different page.
"Seriously??" somebody asked a question about a patricular tweet so to stop that person fromasking about 1 million other times, I posted a verion of it. "Seriously??"... I have no intention of discussing the tweet further but I "Seriously??" just wanted that person to see it and be done.... And the nerve of somebody to question if anyone is doing for Diem... I spent my last $300 that had for books and a charger (for school, mind you) to donate to Diem as soon as her medgift page was created. i don't know about anyone here but I am a senior in college and I needed that money but Diem was my favorite person on television and an angel on earth so I donated and ate instant Ramen and worked extra hours that week. Please.
Nobody is "gossiping' This thred will eventually talk about topics that are not directly related to Diem's charities and that is fine. As long as the conversation remains respectful and does not dwell too much than what's the problem? Some people here are writing essays on somebody's relationship they were never in and no one bats an eyelid! But ohhhhh mention one thing that is not about CT's relationships or Diem's charity and all of a sudden people want to get mad. I've already said my peace about that tweet and belive me I could not care less about it or the person who wrote it but don't sit there and accuse me of something because the conversation didn't go exactly the way you wanted it to go. And Karisa, if you must delete some parts of this but not the whole thing because some of this needs to be said to those who have a horse that sits too high.
The nerve, the nerve, the nerve! The things I would say if this wasn't Diem's thread smh.
"Seriously" stop being so dramatic
Thank you to whoever answered my question
Just wanted to say that this touched me. I'm in school and on a limited income and it felt like it was hard for me to pull together 25 dollars to give but I did...then I recently ordered a Diem shirt from Johnny B's website...so that rounds my donation total to about 50...wish I could have done more...so for you to give $300 while in school is impressive. I know your not looking for praise for it though or attention....you donated because you genuinely love Diem.....but I just wanted to say that is all.
As for the rest....I don't want to insert myself into any argument...I will just say that I think all of us are still missing Diem...it's still tough and so we are all naturally on a hair trigger with our emotions....myself included at times....so my general message to everyone is to try to kind of step back and don't overreact about things....and remember we all loved Diem and we all have that in common.
Stefx23, your reply was so nice. Thank you for taking the time to acknowledge AyeOhKay's sacrifice on behalf of MedGift. I admire everyone's positive efforts to support Diem's legacy through donations of time, money and commentary about her incredible life.
I share SemiSweet's frustration about the nitpicking that has gone on in this thread; it's the reason I've limited my activity. I don't believe her post was directed to AyeOhKay but I, too, have taken posting here personally when in retrospect, it may not have been intended in the way I viewed it. Stefx23 hit the nail on the head when she said (bolded below) that many of us are still emotionally raw and grieving for a person we admired greatly.
A few of us have had a connection with Diem that went beyond watching her on television and following her on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. Although we may not have been Face to Face friends, we became friends nonetheless. Because her personal relationships were kept private, we walk a fine line in respecting that desire and trying to right wrong information. It goes back to honoring her legacy, part of which involved her plans for her future with MedGift and the White Picket Fence dream.
Thanks for listening!
nmanderson, Thank you. I have noticed many regular commenters have taken leave and when contacted privately they share the same sentiment. You know me well enough to understand my frustration & intent. I have addressed this with AyeOhKay privately - as I will not engage in bickering here. Anyone who has been here (Vevmo in general & this thread in particular) knows I love Diem and I feel this thread has on occasion gone from respectful to seedy. I also know many folks here are students and would never judge someone based on what (or if) they have donated... everyone has their own struggles and it is not my place to determine what they should be doing. How the heck would I know? I bring up those things to remind people that this was started to remember and honor her & also inform people who may be in a position to particpate or donate. I try to remember to always end with or just be more like her... be kind, reach out to people...
Diem hated being picked apart and was especially offended by many things that were said about her on vevmo... I just hate seeing people continue to question things that are as plain as the noses on their faces because anyone who can give a legit answer is not going to do so...so anyone who offers up some unsolicited crap to stir things up, should be treated like they are just stirring things up. They aren't showing any love or respect. I try to remember to think before repeating (Is it True, Helpful, Inspiring, Necessary, Kind)
I really loved Knight's message to Diem on CT's little box (you could see it while Johnny Reiley was signing):
"Beautiful, you're one of the strongest individuals I have ever met. Can't wait to see you back in the house. Love, Knight."
I got teary-eyed when I saw that he (and his family) had requested that any donations in his name go to MedGift. Also really felt for CT because if Knight had such respect for Diem it probably also spoke to the relationship that CT and Knight had as friends.
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