[QUOTE=rallen;245732]i assumed adam was kicked out by the hotel itself,not nec. production, is that not the case?[/QUOTE]
What in my previous commentary do you not understand. I believe I clearly stated the unknowns and the decision process involved. Certainly, the editing of the episode hints that it was the hotel and not production, but we don't know the facts. We only know what BMP and MTV wanted us to see. No one from the hotel or from the cast or crew have yet talked about it of which I'm aware.
[QUOTE=cystic;245752]I could respond with the same thing: your personal bias for Dustin makes for a frail argument anyway. A fondness of a TV character makes for a tendency to defend them to the ends of the earth and disregard poor judgment and decisions. Fact is, I'm not bias against him, I hold him in the same dim light as all the other cast members (Nany is naive and delusional about men, Cooke is self-absorbed and comes across as rude, Adam is just...don't even get me started). None of those personal criticisms had anything to do with this episode, which is why I'm not bringing them up.
I'm not understanding this...is being truthful, candid and not a contradictory [insert expletive here] not a matter of character either? Why does Dustin get a special pass for not meeting this requirement again?[/QUOTE]
I am a member of a discussion board that lead to this kid's life being turned upside down. I posted here before that made me feel uneasy, and I feel a little guilty by association since even though I don't think anybody foresaw that happening, and this is the first real backstory we have seen for the season. There is my bias--I feel a need to stick up for the kid a little because Vevmo seems to have altered his storyline in a negative way. Today it seems to be an issue of truth for you; yesterday it seemed to be an issue of potential STD's. I don't believe that Dustin should get a Special Pass, and while truthfulness is part of character, not everything pertaining to character is related to truthfulness. I don't see people getting upset with Naomi who had a daily admitting to having **** sex as well; I don't hear people getting worked up about what diseases Leroy might be bringing in the door with his 15 one night stands; and I don't see people saying that Heather had any duty to disclose the details of her past sex habits, whatever they may have been, to Dustin.
[QUOTE=SeanDaniel;245758]I am a member of a discussion board that lead to this kid's life being turned upside down. I posted here before that made me feel uneasy, and I feel a little guilty by association since even though I don't think anybody foresaw that happening, and this is the first real backstory we have seen for the season. There is my bias--I feel a need to stick up for the kid a little because Vevmo seems to have altered his storyline in a negative way. [B]Today it seems to be an issue of truth for you; yesterday it seemed to be an issue of potential STD's.[/B] I don't believe that Dustin should get a Special Pass, and while truthfulness is part of character, not everything pertaining to character is related to truthfulness. I don't see people getting upset with Naomi who had a daily admitting to having **** sex as well; I don't hear people getting worked up about what diseases Leroy might be bringing in the door with his 15 one night stands; and I don't see people saying that Heather had any duty to disclose the details of her past sex habits, whatever they may have been, to Dustin.[/QUOTE]
By this comment, if you're insinuating I'm trying to burn him at the stake for whatever personal reason, I'd like to take this moment right now to stop you from embarrassing yourself any further. I talk about the issues (i.e truth, STDs, which by the way kinda go hand in hand when you consider YOU SHOULD TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT STDS) that are brought up in the discussion thread by other members. It's called posting on-topic. You might've heard it before. If you want to get rude and condescending about your insinuations, I can do it too. And let's get one thing clear, the "site" is not responsible for dragging his name through the mud. He did that on his own. Like molds said before, the truth would've come out eventually even without this site. Instead of taking out your moral frustrations with other members, why don't you take it up with marylin or whatever her name is since you feel so emotionally compassionate about Dustin's life. She's the member who brought it to light. And as I recall, you took part in the frivolity in Dustin's thread along with the rest of Vevmo. Let's not get into the denials here.
You brought up the fact that I was biased when you ran out of excuses and cards to play, I retaliated with the same logic against you. Let's not be delusional and childish about this any longer than we need to.
Case and point, just because I'm not buying into the sympathy edit and disregarding common freaking sense and ethics, doesn't mean I have it out for a reality TV star whom I've never even met.
[QUOTE=cystic;245743]It's not circumstantial. You can keep singing "he did it out of desperation", but at the end of the day he made his decision and has to live with it, much like all of us. Whether people want to accept his decision or not is their own problem. He wasn't blackmailed, forced, or tricked into doing gay ****, and I know how badly many of you wants to make the site owner out to be this manipulative bad guy who employed dirty tactics to hire his employees. He didn't. He simply ran a business and sought out young bucks to fit the bill for his product. They consented. They sign a contract. It's not a hard concept when consent is involved. They accept the responsibility of the choice they make. I'm tired of hearing excuses. I am in no way overlooking the ethical issues of pornography, but come on people. You're looking at the business through tiny lens because the word "sex" is involved, while excusing Dustin's duplicity simply because he had a rough life. By that same logic, Adam gets a pass for his idiotic behavior.[/QUOTE]
Thank you!! I agree 100.
[QUOTE=SeanDaniel;245758]I am a member of a discussion board that lead to this kid's life being turned upside down. I posted here before that made me feel uneasy, and I feel a little guilty by association since even though I don't think anybody foresaw that happening, and this is the first real backstory we have seen for the season. There is my bias--I feel a need to stick up for the kid a little because Vevmo seems to have altered his storyline in a negative way. Today it seems to be an issue of truth for you; yesterday it seemed to be an issue of potential STD's. I don't believe that Dustin should get a Special Pass, and while truthfulness is part of character, not everything pertaining to character is related to truthfulness. I don't see people getting upset with Naomi who had a daily admitting to having **** sex as well; I don't hear people getting worked up about what diseases Leroy might be bringing in the door with his 15 one night stands; and I don't see people saying that Heather had any duty to disclose the details of her past sex habits, whatever they may have been, to Dustin.[/QUOTE]
I believe you are being a bit biased here also. Mainly because Naomi knows Leroy's sexual activity and therefore has the choice to accept it or not. Heather did not know and therefore was being falsely led. I believe the point which Cystic was trying to make earlier was with regard to the people who say the roommates didn't need to know about Dustin's past because he only knew them for a month. He's saying that by that argument, the roommates can judge him however they want because they've "only known him for a month."
I believe yes people make mistakes but everyone pays for their mistakes. If you killed someone "by mistake," doesn't the Law "judge" you and you have consequences to pay? SO therefore, with the world how it is, if he did gay for pay ****, then he has to deal with the consequences of that, which may be public judgment. He's a big guy and he knew what he was doing, hence he couldn't even tell his family, so therefore, I will not feel sorry for him, pat his head of pacify his behaviour. I don't accept Adam's behaviour, and I don't accept his either. Just my opinion.
[QUOTE=cystic;245759]By this comment, if you're insinuating I'm trying to burn him at the stake for whatever personal reason, I'd like to take this moment right now to stop you from embarrassing yourself any further.....[/QUOTE]
I have no control over inferences. If you want to discuss STD's then discuss STD's. If you want to ban me then ban me. I don't care. I also never denied that I participated in the spoiler thread discussions. I was speaking as to the basis of MY BIAS as I feel it to be since you brought it up. I guess some opinions count more than others. My other bias is defending Dustin some is that this is a show that has tweens and teens in its target demo who might, just might, be struggling with their own sexuality who might, just might, come here and read some of this without being able to make finer distinctions and might, just might, see some of the condemnation of Dustin as a condemnation of ****/bisexuality and who might, just might, feel the hatred personally. There is nothing more tragic to me than reading about some conflicted kid killing themselves over their sexuality when I, as an adult, see sexuality as not that important to who someone is, so I tend to not to sit back and be quiet when these issues come up.
[QUOTE=SeanDaniel;245765]I have no control over inferences. If you want to discuss STD's then discuss STD's. If you want to ban me then ban me. I don't care. I also never denied that I participated in the spoiler thread discussions. I was speaking as to the basis of MY BIAS as I feel it to be since you brought it up. I guess some opinions count more than others. My other bias is defending Dustin some is that this is a show that has tweens and teens in its target demo who might, just might, be struggling with their own sexuality who might, just might, come here and read some of this without being able to make finer distinctions and might, just might, see some of the condemnation of Dustin as a condemnation of ****/bisexuality and who might, just might, feel the hatred personally. There is nothing more tragic to me than reading about some conflicted kid killing themselves over their sexuality when I, as an adult, see sexuality as not that important to who someone is, so I tend to not to sit back and be quiet when these issues come up.[/QUOTE]
Please, don't take this personal, and get upset. This is just a blog website, no need to get angry and argue over the net. Just understand where each other is coming from. I did not hear Cystic ever attack Dustin based on his sexuality n0or even his "experimenting". No need to be upset at each other. Just simply try to see where the other is coming from and maybe just agree to disagree. You may have an opinion about his actions based on sexuality, but I didn't understand Cystic's statement in that same way (difference of point of view). I simply saw it as actions have consequences, no matter who you are or what gender/sex/race/sexuality/ethnicity/nationality/ how well known you are. I'm not attacking you or anything, you have a right to speak up and say what you believe, but I also do. I'm not attacking Dustin based on anything except his attitude. Some people may think doing **** is a normal thing while others view it as socially unacceptable and wrong. No need to attack each other, just respectfully disagree with it. Sexuality is an important issue and learning who you are, however, I don't believe it was the issue at hand here (well at least in my or Cystic's post, from what I understand).
[QUOTE=Npresh24;245729]Unless you have personally met every recent Real Worlder it is not a fair assumption to call them "Low-Lifes".[/QUOTE]
Oh come on, MTV no longer casts regular people
Either
- They want to get into media/entertainment business
- They have some big problem/secret in their life that will be exposed during the season
Honestly, what kind of person even auditions for the show these days? It's no different than Jersey Shore. I'm gonna audition to go on a show where I'll be living with a bunch of freaks and be embarrassed at some point of the show.
While us normal people are too busy going to college or starting our careers, they are going on a reality tv show. . .
[QUOTE=Akomplice;245735]I can't stand Mike at all.
And Nani is a joke.
Dustin grew up with a drug addict/manic depressive mother who according to him was gone a lot.
I don't think I would have ever done what he did but honestly until you've been where someone else has been and walked a mile in their shoes you have no clue what you would or wouldn't do.
What was he supposed to do, "hi I'm Dustin, when I was just out of school and needed money, I did a gay webcam site with other guys."
They would never have gotten to know him or even given him a chance as much as they did.
That psychopath or sociopath(can't decide which) Adam was "the biggest drug dealer in Maine"(ha), involved in a shooting and was locked up.*
He was violent and was the biggest liar in that house. He lied about almost everything, **** remember the script like lines he used on Nani and then the exact same thing to another girl.*
Dustin didn't even lie, he just kept it to himself.*
They didn't ask him if he ever blew a guy and he said no.
The fact that Mike wants him to leave and doesn't respect him because he did gay stuff only proves my initial opinion that he's a closet homosexual not to mention fits the profile of a serial killer/sexual sadist, from his super strict up bringing to the extreme shame he feels with anything to do with sex or the opposite sex but when he brought to girls home earlier on in the show he was totally creepy.*
Then afterwards he starts beating himself up and saying how disgusting it was that he wanted to get with one.*
Obviously when he was growing up he was told it was wrong to be sexually attracted to females and anything to do with sexuality was disgusting.*
Look up some of the serial killers that did **** like mutilating their victims breasts and sex organs, they have the same personality and Mike fits the profile to the T.
I think the **** Dustin did however long ago is none of the other room mates business. They're basically strangers aside from Heather and she told him early on that she "could never be with a guy who kissed another guy".
Well I can't imagine he would have brought it up when he met them and after she said that what would you have done?
I could understand these people being so outraged and disgusted if Dustin had an STD and didn't tell Heather but people make mistakes and it doesn't directly effect any of them.
I think I sympathize with him because he admitted most of it from the beginning and I know he wanted to tell her but couldn't.
I also think after these people watch the show they'll feel the same because they'll know that he wasn't trying to deliberately hurt anyone or play them for fools.[/QUOTE]
Whoa your giving Dustin WAYYYYY too much credit and acceptance here
The fact remains if not for Adam/Heather's mom the guy would have NEVER told his room mates. If you think otherwise then your naive. If he didn't get caught he would have never come clean. And my source is how he runs and hides from every uncomfortable situation he's faced this season so far. He had the run in with Mike and coward' in his room with his face on the bed. There is NO WAY he would have confronted his room mates about his past, the guy just doesn't have the mental capacity to do that.
Secondly the guy is spewing anti-gay language and has a history of gayness. That makes him a hypocrite. At that point WHO KNOWS what else he is lying about
Mike didn't like Dustin from the start so he feels vindicated and IMO, he rightfully should.
Let's be honest MTV put Dustin on the show for one reason and one reason only. The guy
- Has no personality
- No sense of humor
- Nothing intelligent to express
- Hates on gays
Why exactly would they put him on if not for his *Secret*? They wouldn't
Thirdly, your description of Dustin's life sounds like the typical American story these days. How many parents in America abuse prescription drugs , how many kids in America grow up with 2 parents? If your lucky enough to have 2 parents, both are working anyway.
Dustin wasn't
- Physically or mentally abused
- Assaulted or molested
His story is a common one in current day America. Some people join the military, some people start selling drugs and commiting crimes (Adam) and others go to gay ****. Adam is labeled and viewed one way and Dustin is labeled and viewed another way, RIGHTFULLY so.
Atleast Adam risked jail time and death with his path, you can respect that fighter mentality. Dustin well you know what Dustin did, he took the EASY road
[QUOTE=SeanDaniel;245765]I have no control over inferences. If you want to discuss STD's then discuss STD's. If you want to ban me then ban me. I don't care. I also never denied that I participated in the spoiler thread discussions. I was speaking as to the basis of MY BIAS as I feel it to be since you brought it up. I guess some opinions count more than others. My other bias is defending Dustin some is that this is a show that has tweens and teens in its target demo who might, just might, be struggling with their own sexuality who might, just might, come here and read some of this without being able to make finer distinctions and might, just might, see some of the condemnation of Dustin as a condemnation of ****/bisexuality and who might, just might, feel the hatred personally. There is nothing more tragic to me than reading about some conflicted kid killing themselves over their sexuality when I, as an adult, see sexuality as not that important to who someone is, so I tend to not to sit back and be quiet when these issues come up.[/QUOTE]
I would appreciate it if you would not continue taking my posts out of context. I don't ban people who disagree with me; that's really pointless and takes away from the discussion. You want to complain about the argument turning personal, you should look at the point where you brought my "bias" into this to begin with. I addressed your part in the Dustin thread because you were simply joking along with the rest of the members. To the point where you place yourself on a higher pedestal above everyone else there because you now realize how degrading it was, seems hypocritical and downright laughable.
I was done talking about STD's like....a while ago? Don't know why you're bringing that up still. The new topic of discussion is why lying is a bad thing regardless of circumstance, but that seems to go over your head and diverts right back to a sexuality argument which I tried to establish was irrelevant to my point completely. And now here we are back to square one. And as I recall, V1 was the one who brought STD's up and made a very good point, and yet I'm getting the brunt of this argument somehow? How very very strange!
Your insinuation that any of my posts have a conservative anti-gay undertone makes me cringe in severe pain. Followed by a face palm. I'll leave it at that, unless you want to continue arguing sexuality, which I'm not taking part in, and haven't during the last 2-3 pages of this thread. For a good reason, mind you.
It's perfectly fine you feel the need to represent the voice of the LGBTQ youth, but don't make me laugh with the whole soap box speech, where you conveniently take the moral intellectual high ground than everyone else here. You're not the Vevmo martyr. Just because you feel a certain way (perhaps compassionately), does not make your opinion worth more morally than others'. Everyone here has an opinion to contribute. Don't get complacent and self-righteous about it and then chastise others for not joining in on the movement.
I don't know why I have to spell this out for you since it's clear, but I agree with you about how sexuality [I]shouldn't[/I] make or break a person's opinion of someone. And yet you're still fixated on mentioning sexuality even though I insisted on moving onto a more relevant discussion to the episode. People will continue to interpret the episode how they want, and not how they should...That is the issue you're concerned about and that is just fine and I'm not disagreeing with that.
[QUOTE=SPENCERlife;245770]
Atleast Adam risked jail time and death with his path, you can respect that fighter mentality. Dustin well you know what Dustin did, he took the EASY road[/QUOTE]
Are you even for real? Let's just summarise - the easy road is that you take a job in the **** industry, not harming anyone, earning money, and risking serious backlash in personal and professional life afterwards. And the apparent difficult, more "respectable road" is to commit crimes and endanger other people's lives, too? That's just wow. I definitely condemn Dustin's comments about gays and how he handled his personal story, but this last paragraph of yours is simply ridiculous.
[QUOTE=OrangeStar;245783]Are you even for real? Let's just summarise - the easy road is that you take a job in the **** industry, not harming anyone, earning money, and risking serious backlash in personal and professional life afterwards. And the apparent difficult, more "respectable road" is to commit crimes and endanger other people's lives, too? That's just wow. I definitely condemn Dustin's comments about gays and how he handled his personal story, but this last paragraph of yours is simply ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
THANK YOU!!! I was chomping at the bit to respond in exactly the same way. You beat me to it.
ON a different note, i am watching the Heather podcast with Eric and Derrick. I disagree with most of what she is saying. I am only halfway through so i may have more to add later haha.
First she is saying that the Nany/Naomi yelling at Cooke in her room wasn't as big of a deal as they made it, umm it sure looked like they were flipping the F out over it editing or not. Also she can't let go of the borrowing a t shirt thing. Naomi hooked up iwth Leroy and she doesn't own him. Doing something as simple as borrowing a shirt to me is a good ice breaker to start a conversation when you are the odd person out in a group of 6 people who know each other. Either way it's not a big deal to me at all but Heather is like using that as a prime reason how she is shady. It is just a shirt, if you really want to hate her that's fine, but those group of 3 girls are just an insane version of mean girls IMO. Heather is definitely the most likenable of the three , but still i don't understand. The one thing Heather has a point on is that Cooke did say she was going to break them up several times on the phone, dailies, post interviews, etc and Cooke told Heather she was just kidding but she wasn't at first.
Nany i just don't see anyway i am going to end up liking her. I sort of did at the start, but than immediately with the whole i love my boyfriend and 2 seconds later cheating. Than the whole Adam thing when she clearly had all the warning signs there and trying to be the victim. Than the drunk trying to antagonize Adam when that crazy person finally went to sleep. Now attacking the new girl and threatening to fight her over whether she did or didn't point her finger at Heather? The drunken "bro's" she says every other word too is very annoying. I just don't see what's going to change now that i'll end up liking her.
Naomi i actually think is a good person, she just has a temper and lost it for second. It just looked bad at that moment screaming at her face and Nany wasn't involved in anyway at least Naomi had the Leroy thing to be angry about. No big deal, one bad drunken night is fine to me because that's all i have seen to this point. I mean without alcohol i'm sure the approach of Cooke over wearing Leroy's shirt would of been far less drama filled, but of course it's Vegas and there are drinks. The girls all together however, i am not a fan of at all. Talk about bully mentality.
If Derrick would not just be a yes man during these interviews, he could really call some people out on their BS. cough cough Kenny/Johnny
[QUOTE=V1man;245757][U]What in my previous commentary do you not understand.[/U] I believe I clearly stated the unknowns and the decision process involved. Certainly, the editing of the episode hints that it was the hotel and not production, but we don't know the facts. We only know what BMP and MTV wanted us to see. No one from the hotel or from the cast or crew have yet talked about it of which I'm aware.[/QUOTE]
well Obviously the entire post. When I read your post it read to me like they had went into the fact that it was production, it was an innocent question to which I just wanted a simple answer. I actually do other things and watch episodes haphazardly so I miss segments...just wanted clarification.
I understand the roommates confusion and agitation of Dustin - he isn't very straight forward about things and contradicts himself. With this being the case, how can they react other than frustration and confusion? I think they handled things fine, given the amount and accuracy of information he's given them. Nany and Naomi were 10x worse last week.
Also, could anyone explain where Mike's now completely apparent hate of Dustin comes from? It's been shown in just about every episode now, and it seems more like jealousy because it's out of character for him.
[QUOTE=SPENCERlife;245770]Atleast Adam risked jail time and death with his path, you can respect that fighter mentality. Dustin well you know what Dustin did, he took the EASY road[/QUOTE]
What in Heaven's name are you talking about? Let's not make a melodrama out of Adam's history. He dabbled in drugs and got put in juvy for being a sneak thief. An unnecessary risk is just that: unnecessary. And what is to respect about his supposed fighter's mentality? He fought a lamp, some framed pictures and several of his own possessions.
There is no mystery to this guy, there is no intrigue. I see guys like him at the freshman bars all the time. And you know what they all have in common? They are sloppy, obnoxious and lightweights. Don't make the guy sound reminiscent of frickin' Mark Wahlberg in "The Fighter."
[QUOTE=Mind Riot;245833]He fought a lamp, some framed pictures and several of his own possessions. [/QUOTE]
That lamp was asking for it...
/end ridiculous pro-Adam comment
Okay I gotta say something on this....
That whole thing was blown WAY out of porportion. I swear they were acting like he KILLED someone. So he did ****...It's not a big deal.
And I would bet you money that If Dustin was a woman their reactions would be TOTALLY diffrent
[QUOTE=Debut Album;245894]Okay I gotta say something on this....
That whole thing was blown WAY out of porportion. I swear they were acting like he KILLED someone. So he did ****...It's not a big deal.
And I would bet you money that If Dustin was a woman their reactions would be TOTALLY diffrent[/QUOTE]
I agree. Heather is such a hypocrite... most of them are. :(
Still love Mike Mike!
[QUOTE=Debut Album;245894]Okay I gotta say something on this....
That whole thing was blown WAY out of porportion. I swear they were acting like he KILLED someone. So he did ****...It's not a big deal.
And I would bet you money that If Dustin was a woman their reactions would be TOTALLY diffrent[/QUOTE]
I agree that it was blown out of proportion, however I think if it were a woman, it'd be worse. I believe in general, women tend to be harsher on other women. Although men may have found it "hot," women would probably have called her derogatory names and even men sometimes don't attach themselves (in a relationship) with women who did ****.
But with Dustin, while it's shocking, I believe you'll find more women feeling pity on him, sympathizing him etc, but if it were the other way around with Heather doing that, I believe she'd have it worse.
Blown out of proportion? how and by who? Leroy didnt care much, pulled him to the side and told him he accepted him, even told the house to pray for him when Dustin left and no one knew where he went. When Nany/Naomi found out all they did is went off on their own, giggling and gossiping like they always do, and minded their business and only talked to Heather once they noticed she knew. Heather was lied to and made to look like a fool, and was still worried for him (even went to hold him after his talk with Leroy), also went to breakfast to talk to him where he proceeded to try to guilt trip her. And they all made it clear they didnt want him to leave. Mike is the only one that overreacted. People who saw the show are overreacting more then anything.
People want to paint Dustin as some victim so bad cause this is attached to homosexuality, when he did this all to himself. He went on the show pushing and promoting this secret from the day he stepped on show, like it was a cat and mouse game. Which was why he was cast.
I am still reading this thread (I am only on page 19) so I apologize if this has been answers.
Where did Dustin go when he ran away? I was wondering if he just hid in the Casino, or if production gave him a seperate room.
Heather asked him this very question, and then the camera cut away to another scene
Varwfan,where Dustin went was never addressed,but I guess the most logical answer was that either he or production booked another room for a night or two.
Also if we are going to use the past is the past arguement with Dustin,one thing to note is Dustin (alongside LeeRoy) was getting mad that Adam was not opening up about his life,and this was in the first weeks in the house.
"What in Heaven's name are you talking about? Let's not make a melodrama out of Adam's history. He dabbled in drugs and got put in juvy for being a sneak thief. An unnecessary risk is just that: unnecessary. And what is to respect about his supposed fighter's mentality? He fought a lamp, some framed pictures and several of his own possessions.
There is no mystery to this guy, there is no intrigue. I see guys like him at the freshman bars all the time. And you know what they all have in common? They are sloppy, obnoxious and lightweights. Don't make the guy sound reminiscent of frickin' Mark Wahlberg in "The Fighter."
Post of a lifetime!!! Well Done!!!
Kind of disappointed in Leroy in this episode. I thought it was great how he confronted Dustin and told him he wasn't judging and how his past was his past and everything, but then right after he's telling Mike about how he wants Dustin to leave because he makes him feel uncomfortable? I always thought Leroy to be the realest of the cast, and I guess he still is, but this kinda proves he isn't always 100%
[QUOTE=Aramm;246093]Kind of disappointed in Leroy in this episode. I thought it was great how he confronted Dustin and told him he wasn't judging and how his past was his past and everything, but then right after he's telling Mike about how he wants Dustin to leave because he makes him feel uncomfortable? I always thought Leroy to be the realest of the cast, and I guess he still is, but this kinda proves he isn't always 100%[/QUOTE]
Not picking up for him or anything, but just stating the fact that these scenes are not always chronologically ordered; he could have said that before he decided to approach Dustin or not. Who knows?
[QUOTE=Dash_Vegas!;245299]For some reason I keep imagining how things would have been if Dustin were in the same situation but in the Cancun RW cast (say replacing Derek). I think they would have all been a lot more respective.
Random, but I liked that cast a lot![/QUOTE]
I get what your saying. The cancun cast probably would have thought it was funny and I don't think any of them would be mad.
I honestly just felt sorry for Zito this entire episode.
[QUOTE=Mind Riot;245833]What in Heaven's name are you talking about? Let's not make a melodrama out of Adam's history. He dabbled in drugs and got put in juvy for being a sneak thief. An unnecessary risk is just that: unnecessary. And what is to respect about his supposed fighter's mentality? He fought a lamp, some framed pictures and several of his own possessions.
There is no mystery to this guy, there is no intrigue. I see guys like him at the freshman bars all the time. And you know what they all have in common? They are sloppy, obnoxious and lightweights. Don't make the guy sound reminiscent of frickin' Mark Wahlberg in "The Fighter."[/QUOTE]
Best post ever!! I laughed so hard reading this.
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