The girls on the Champions team are really weak! They should be kicking their own ***** for putting Ev in that position because now they are going to have to knock Kelly Anne and Sarah out themselves. Susie has gotten really lucky with the elimination challanges she has been in terms of the game and her competitors.
Strongest for the gals on the challengers:
KellyAnne
Sarah
Middle of the pack:
Kimberly
Diem
Weakest:
Brianna
Shauvon
Casey is the weakest by far
I love Kellyanne and Sarah. :)
The girls on this challenge have sure been looking a little rough around the edges compared to most.... can't wait for the Cancun and FM2 girls to start participating and pump up the talent level a bit.
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[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;132542]I don't think that Sarah deserves to be in 1st place. She did great in the swimming challenge but almost lost to Katie.[/QUOTE]
Sarah is a strong fierce competitor. Darrell almost lost to danny. However, Darell is a much better competitor than Danny. Although, I do like Danny, he's a great guy and husband.
There had to be some regret on the challengers part by not sending Casey in when they had the chance. She basically cost them any chance at winning when they might have had a good chance to win. Either way the Champions are dominating right now despite their issues but I see problems ahead for them.
[QUOTE=BosNite;132544]can't wait for the Cancun and FM2 girls to start participating and pump up the talent level a bit.
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I can....the potential for the revival of this series comes from the old school girls like Veronica and Katie (I exclude Tonya because I don't want the series revival to come at the cost of her mental health). We need more like them and less like the Cancun girls who will inevitably be yet another carbon copy of Susie, Johanna and Casey.
[QUOTE=ssseeeaaann;132547]I can....the potential for the revival of this series comes from the old school girls like Veronica and Katie (I exclude Tonya because I don't want the series revival to come at the cost of her mental health). We need more like them and less like the Cancun girls who will inevitably be yet another carbon copy of Susie, Johanna and Casey.[/QUOTE]
I think we're talking about different things... I was talking about eye candy.
But - going along with your line of thinking - I think the Cancun girls would be just fine. At the very least, I can't believe you'd think Ayia would be a carbon copy of SJC!
I would also like to add that Casey is worthless.
Was that a given? Did I not need to reiterate that?
Her being on a challenge is such a waste of life.
Its really kinda ticking me off that Veronica is being labeled as the bad person in this. It was JEK that has been messing with her head all this time - Until Tonya brought up all the bs that happened on I2 Veronica had left her alone. And drunk/unstable or not, V had every right to go after Tonya after she dumped her food and yelled in her face. I thought it was classy of V not to fight back - although Tonya would have deserved it. Tonya has always been a trainwreck - girl deal with your crap and grow the **** up already.
Just when I didnt think Evan could get any lower he goes and blames V for stuff that he and his sycophants caused. Dude you have a horrible face, a horrible body, and a horrible personality - stay off my tv!!!
*End Rant*
[QUOTE=RW_Chall_Fan;132588] [B]I thought it was classy of V not to fight back - although Tonya would have deserved it.[/B] Tonya has always been a trainwreck - girl deal with your crap and grow the **** up already.
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If she wanted to not fight back, she should've walked away. I have learned that the best way to make an angry person more angry is to laugh in their face or not take them seriously, which is exactly what Veronica did. I like Veronica, but she could have and should have handled it differently.
You say Tonya has always been a trainwreck...then they [I]should[/I] know exactly how to deal with her. Yet they still get her riled up. As far as I'm concerned, all sides are at fault here.
[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;132587]Why didn't they show Katie yelling at Veronica?[/QUOTE]
Yeah where was that? I remember in the 2nd trailer they had a clip of Katie yelling "I WILL CHOKE YOU!" or something like that at Veronica...
[QUOTE=jhl182;132593]Yeah where was that? I remember in the 2nd trailer they had a clip of Katie yelling "I WILL CHOKE YOU!" or something like that at Veronica...[/QUOTE]
Yeah I didn't see that either. I don't like when they show stuff in the trailer and then end up not showing it...
[QUOTE=jazzybell;132628]Does any one know where I can see the first episode I missed some of it and I would like to see the full episode.[/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.mtv.com/videos/the-ruins-ep-1-wes-side-story/1622231/playlist.jhtml]Wes Side Story | Ep. 1801 | RW/RR Challenge: The Ruins | Full Episode Video | MTV[/url]
Very awesome episode IMO.
There was something that was said that we all did not hear, Veronica said something extremely low, which made Tonya snap. She said it would be in her blog but everyone on the Ruins rewind or whatever was talking about and I think they even mentioned it but whoever said (I forget) their voice was lowered so we would not hear it.
[quote=thekorean;132647]this has been going on for yuuuuuuuurs! - tonya.
Funniest quote besides the age one. But i cried laughing at the way she yelled yurrs(years).[/quote]
Veronica's gleaving!!
[QUOTE=tjhallow;132649]Veronica's gleaving!![/QUOTE]
This was tooooo funny!
BTW, does anyone else think that Veronica couldn't fight back because Tonya was all over her, and not because she held back as to not get eliminated??
I agree with Molds (i believe) when it was said that she could've ended that fight before it escalated into what it did. But she (Veronica) didn't.
[QUOTE=ieotherwords;132658]This was tooooo funny!
BTW, does anyone else think that Veronica couldn't fight back because Tonya was all over her, and not because she held back as to not get eliminated??
I agree with Molds (i believe) when it was said that she could've ended that fight before it escalated into what it did. But she (Veronica) didn't.[/QUOTE]
No, because she told Tonya in the YouTube clip that she wanted her to hit her. Veronica got what she wanted and made Tonya look like a fool.
[QUOTE=ieotherwords;132658]This was tooooo funny!
[B]BTW, does anyone else think that Veronica couldn't fight back because Tonya was all over her[/B], and not because she held back as to not get eliminated??
I agree with Molds (i believe) when it was said that she could've ended that fight before it escalated into what it did. But she (Veronica) didn't.[/QUOTE]
No - I do not think that - at all. Veronica is alot tougher than ppl give her credit. I think she could handle herself in a fight. Tonya has always been like a porcelain glass - easily breakable.
[QUOTE=molds13;132590]If she wanted to not fight back, she should've walked away. I have learned that the best way to make an angry person more angry is to laugh in their face or not take them seriously, which is exactly what Veronica did. I like Veronica, but she could have and should have handled it differently.
You say Tonya has always been a trainwreck...then they [I]should[/I] know exactly how to deal with her. Yet they still get her riled up. As far as I'm concerned, all sides are at fault here.[/QUOTE]
If you had someone trying to punk you out (especially on national tv) would you just "let it go"?? I can see trying to laugh it off and turn the other cheek but when someone is in your face screaming at you it is only natural to fight back, all I'm saying is I think Veronica showed class for not going there. I can see a bit of myself in Veronica - I can break people down with words just as easily as a fist - and physical scars heal. Sympathy goes a long way, but there is a line that gets crossed sometimes.
[QUOTE=RW_Chall_Fan;132675][B]If you had someone trying to punk you out (especially on national tv) would you just "let it go"??[/B] I can see trying to laugh it off and turn the other cheek but when someone is in your face screaming at you it is only natural to fight back, all I'm saying is I think Veronica showed class for not going there. I can see a bit of myself in Veronica - I can break people down with words just as easily as a fist - and physical scars heal. Sympathy goes a long way, but there is a line that gets crossed sometimes.[/QUOTE]
Yes, because I would be the bigger person in that scenario. I'm not going to change who I am just because I'm on television. It might be natural for you to fight back, but it isn't for everyone. It's not necessarily letting it go, but walking away before the situation turns into something you don't want it to turn into (like physical violence, for example).
[QUOTE=ElectraWoman;132666]No, because she told Tonya in the YouTube clip that she wanted her to hit her. Veronica got what she wanted and made Tonya look like a fool.[/QUOTE]
If what Veronica wanted was for it to be confirmed that she's an evil and immature bully, then yes, I agree that she got what she wanted.
While most people agree that Tonya seemed unstable on this challenge, most people seem to think that it was about time that she stood for herself.
The edit of this show clearly favored Tonya as she was victimized while Veronica was villainized. I have no idea how this might have been what Veronica wanted.
Either way, if Veronica really got what she wanted in the sense that she got Tonya to hit her that just proves the horrible person that she is, to provoke and play with the emotions of someone who's clearly unstable and going through a lot. Very kind and mature of her.
[QUOTE=Dannyboy;132785]If what Veronica wanted was for it to be confirmed that she's an evil and immature bully, then yes, I agree that she got what she wanted.
While most people agree that Tonya seemed unstable on this challenge, most people seem to think that it was about time that she stood for herself.
The edit of this show clearly favored Tonya as she was victimized while Veronica was villainized. I have no idea how this might have been what Veronica wanted.
Either way, if Veronica really got what she wanted in the sense that she got Tonya to hit her that just proves the horrible person that she is, to provoke and play with the emotions of someone who's clearly unstable and going through a lot. Very kind and mature of her.[/QUOTE]
Tonya is not Veronica's responsibility. I don't know why that's so hard to understand. If she didn't want people to say mean things to her, she shouldn't have gone because it was obvious she wasn't stable enough to be there. I agree she should have stood up for herself, just like Veronica should have with all the crap Tonya was saying to her, but I haven't seen many people here who agree with Tonya getting physical.
Since you seem to think Tonya shouldn't take responsibility for herself then why is Veronica the only one getting attacked in this thread? Did I imagine the part where JEK would torment her? Was it because at the end they were "nice"? How many people were in that room, and how many stepped in to tell them both to quit. Obviously no one cared enough to stop the horrible bully that is Veronica.
Should any of those things been said? No. Should Tonya have hit her? Definitely not.
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