The Challenge: Battle of the Exes - Spoiler Discussion

[QUOTE=RubenJay05;285889]Shane and Ryan? I would laugh uncontrollably if it was Ryan and Luke lol! The only other one I can think of would be Davis and Ryan but we know that's not happening. And I'm sure it would be a cold day in hell if Karamo and Willie were magically there.[/QUOTE] Karamo and Dan (Miami) Could you imagine, that would be amazing.

Anyone hear any news if Ayiia (Cancun) or Brianna (Hollywood) will be joining?

[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;286677]Maybe the psych evaluation is a way to determine the teams and because he obviously lied on it he ruined the results.[/QUOTE] A lot of psych evaluations have a way to catch deception because you may not recall by question 426 how you answered a similar question 34.

Not gonna lie, Wes was like this superhuman being after Duel 1 when he went into retirement. He should have stayed retired and people would have thought of him as one of the greatest, but instead, since he came back, he has been horrible. Ruins, freshmeat 2, rivals---> and now this, he really isn't the same Wes as I thought of back in duel 1. It's like when people always say nirvana is the best band of the 90s. It's because kurt cobain died at the peak of their success. Had he not killed himself, I am sure they would have been just like any other grunge band from the 90s.

[QUOTE=foofighter7;287954]It's obvious to me now that there's 2 alliances: 1. Mark/Robin...Aneesa/Rachel (bc Mark and Rachel are close are were partners all the time in duel 2) and CT/Diem bc Aneesa and CT are friends 2. Dunbar/Paula and Johnny/Camilla because Johnny and Paula are friends and from the same season. That leaves Abram/CM and Tyrie/Jasmine (which I am shocked is still there)[/QUOTE] Cara Maria may or may not have CT on her side, but she definitely should have Diem and Jasmine, as well as possibly Rachel on her side so them two may be in the first alliance.

[QUOTE=Nightwolf;288469]Is it possible that Emily/Ty or the gale male couple has already been eliminated and we just can't tell, or is this about the amount of people that should be gone by now?[/QUOTE] I was wondering about this as well. Nate tweeted on the 9th Vinny tweeted on the 12th Wes facebooked on the 14th Heather tweeted on the 17th Naomi facebooked on the 17th Jasmine tweeted on the 22nd 5 day gap between Dustin/Heather, Leroy/Naomi and Jasmine/Tyrie, which is pretty inconsistant with departure of previous teams, but of course this may be due to the fact Jasmine/Tyrie not tweeting or using social networks for a couple days, which would mean that another team should be popping up very shortly.

Does anyone know what the normal turn around time is from the time filming wraps up to when the challenge premires on MTV? Any idea when this challenge could air?

I hate myself right now. I said no spoilers but I couldn't resist. God I just ruined another season for me when it airs. I suck.....

I Love the "Showmance" theme! I know a lot of you disagree with a pairs challenge...I can understand if they were to do another one because of how good Rivals turned out, but the teams format seems to make more sense for drama. Lovers will be forced apart, and ex lovers will have motivation to come out on top. That contrast of current/past relationships teammates could cause a lot tension within the team itself. If eliminations were between the couples, that could be interesting.

[QUOTE=molds13;285879]You mean Mike?[/QUOTE] No, I meant Dustin. He has been posting links for about a week and a half or so to some sites that if like 3 of your followers buy what you are promoting, you get it for free. Something like socialliving or something like that is one. It seemed unusual to me for Dustin even though that is already most of Dunbar's tweets.

[QUOTE=smithb12;286167]Anyone hear any news if Ayiia (Cancun) or Brianna (Hollywood) will be joining?[/QUOTE] Ayiiia is still tweeting, no word on Brianna.

[QUOTE=TheKorean;286335]I'm excited to see Rachel, Diem & Aneesa interact with eachother. On the Duel 2, Diem & Tori were the outsiders in the Final 5 & I remember Diem being pissed about going in.[/QUOTE] Well I would have been too....Rachel never had to go into a Duel and Brittani was a rookie and only went in once and it was against Brooke and she "proved herself" by beating Brooke? It was really silly, also in that duel with Brittani and Diem, if you play it in slow motion where they say Diem's foot hit the ground, the plank is so elevated that there is no way that her foot hit, plus there was no camera angle for a clear catch.

Glad to see Wes home. He is quite the cocky one. I wouldn't be surprised if his early departure has something to do with not getting along with top dogs CT & Abram (although they have never done a show together - I'm sure Abram will not be fond of him due to CM hating him and him pouring a bottle of soda on her head).

My thoughts on the teams: Nate/Priscilla: Sad there gone so early, was actually excited to see them compete. Vinny/Sarah: Thank god they are gone second!!! Wes/Mandi: Sad to see Wes gone but happy to see Mandi go! Dustin/Heather: I'm excited to see how they will do, hopefully they went into more than 1 elimination. Leroy/Naomi: One of my favorite teams by far, excited to see how Naomi will do. Johnny/Camila: Hopefully they will be eliminated soon! Abe/Cara Maria: They're gonna be a tough team to beat! CT/Diem: I think if they can get along that they'll be able to win, one of the strongest teams! Rachel/Aneesa: I feel as if they'll still do pretty good, Rachel is a beast and Aneesa is an elimination queen! Mark/Robin: One of the strongest teams, hopefully Robin can pull off her first win! Tyrie/Jasmine: I've never really liked Tyrie but since Jasmine is on his team I hope they make it far. Paula/Dunbar: Please,please,please be the next team to leave!!! Overall I think this challenge will be pretty entertaining!

Question for molds - do you know which team (if any) replaced Adam/Nany? My logic would guess Ty/Emily because I believe it's the only team that wasn't speculated on beforehand, but I definitely could be wrong.

I don't know if anyone has address this yet but wasn't Emily tweeting on Dec 1st? The snow I've been waiting for is finally here!!! web • 12/1/11 12:30 PM

[QUOTE=molds13;283861]Don't fret Dash. There will be at least one Road Ruler on this season. Maybe even more![/QUOTE] Considering there's not that many in the current pool, doesn't seem too hard to narrow it down to a few names.

[url=http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=11948][img]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/18234ea8293fcda19.png[/img][/url] No Carley

There is also the possibility they could create more than 2 teams. Maybe a team of boys and a separate team of girls who are in a relationship and a team of boys and a separate team of girls who are former lovers just to see what drama might happen if say the in a relationship girls secretly unite with the out of a relationship boys to improve their chances of winning, but it would take a lot more players probably.

Ok so I guess the two confusing ones this challenge as of now are Wes & CT. Mandi is definitely there from what I can gather so she has to be with one of them. If Mandi is with CT, then choices for Wes would be Johanna, KellyAnne, or Theresa. If Mandi is with Wes, then choices for CT would be Diem or Laurel, (or Shauvon?) Johanna is definitely a no. Laurel last tweeted 11/3/11, as did others who are most likely appearing (such as Mark, Vinny, Jazmine, etc.) so I'd say she would be in. However, to my recollection she and CT did not have an "on camera" hookup, though BMP is known for stretching things, as they did for "Rivals" and there's no reason Laurel/CT can't be on this, when it looks like Johnny/Camila will. I never liked Laurel until "Rivals," and I really like her now, but at the same time I think she should take a challenge or 2 off. Theresa is tweeting as of yesterday and is hopefully a no, although someone can always manage the account for her. I still don't know why she continues to be cast. KellyAnne tweeted yesterday, which makes me think she is a no, but of course someone can always be managing her account. My hunch says she's a no-go though. Diem is a regular tweeter and hasn't updated in a few days. She has said she would do another challenge, but if the timing was right and she had internet access for her charity. While I can't imagine her wanting to be with CT after their rocky relationship at this point in her life, it would be awesome if they were on this and kick butt. I've never been a Diem fan because of her self-righteous elimination temper tantrums (i.e. Fresh Meat and both Duels), but it's been awhile and it would be nice to see her again and hopefully she's matured. Bottom line - wishful thinking is Mandi/Wes & CT/Diem. Realistically thinking is Mandi/Wes & CT/Laurel.

Maybe they decide that whoever is crazier on the psych test goes on one team, and their Ex goes on the other team

[QUOTE=foofighter7;287447]Not gonna lie, Wes was like this superhuman being after Duel 1 when he went into retirement. He should have stayed retired and people would have thought of him as one of the greatest, but instead, since he came back, he has been horrible. Ruins, freshmeat 2, rivals---> and now this, he really isn't the same Wes as I thought of back in duel 1. It's like when people always say nirvana is the best band of the 90s. It's because kurt cobain died at the peak of their success. Had he not killed himself, I am sure they would have been just like any other grunge band from the 90s.[/QUOTE] Well many have said that he was using performance enhancers during the duel 1.... Also molds, have you come any closer to finding the identiy of the 3 mystery challengers?

Vinny/Sarah and Mandi/Wes have already been partners on a previous challenge at the same time, so I think it's really lame planning if they are partners this time around. Because I don't know who else Sarah could have hooked up with, or Mandi besides Chet. Ideally, my top 3 would be CT/Diem, Abram/Cara Maria, and Aneesa/Rachel, and I wouldn't even care which of those teams won.

[QUOTE=TheKorean;288213]For some reason I don't think Rachel/Aneesa are a pair. Rachel hooked up with Darrell during her season & I remember Aneesa making out/stripping a few times on the Gaubtlet 3.[/QUOTE] 1) didn't molds already state Darrell is NOT there? 2) Um... this is news to me. I don't remember Aneesa making out with or stripping for anybody on the Gauntlet 3, though I'm pretty sure that has to do with the fact that she wasn't on that challenge.

I hope CT and Bananas face off in an elimination again, I dont think Johnny would get lucky twice. Id see CT putting his Bananas backpack back on.

I think Mark and Robin compliment each other the best. Although Robin is a scatter brain and not the most physically strong female, Mark is calm cool and collected and can help her out a lot. Also, Robin isn't a horrible player. Socially, she might not be the best, but Mark makes up for that. Mark is 6'3-6'4 with pure muscle. Landon is 5'9 and all muscle. If it came down to pure strength, I think Mark would win. The truth is I don't even like Mark that much, but the guy is not only tall, he's ripped.

[QUOTE=Blue123;290253]Yeah wonder what that's about. Starvation? Segregation? stolen? lol That's all I can think of.[/QUOTE] I thought it was Satan, Johnny probably lol

[QUOTE=VCR14;284121] No Carley[/QUOTE] Yea I doubt we'll see her again. BMP would rather pick someone like Theresa who sleeps through the challenges she's been on than Carley (who won) or Sandy (who was more entertaining than Theresa).

Oh I get it now

Okay so this may not be much but Jasmine (Cancun) put her tweets to protected recently and so did Veronica...could this mean anything?

[QUOTE=LaneV95;286418]If true that could throw off the cast list. Or maybe its just allowed to Diem? BMP wanted her that bad?[/QUOTE] My guess is that they needed her in order to get CT to fit into the theme of the show.

If he's actually gone, THANK GOD! I hope (and ¿doubt?) that it's a pairs challenge - I think whoever said it was right: Nate and Priscilla being gone at or around the same time is probably just coincidental/circumstantial seeing as how Rookies normally get the boot pretty quickly. Isn't Sarah usually pretty active on facebook? I feel like if she was gone along with Vinny we would have seen something by now. I can't wait to find out who sent him home.

I have this feeling that the 2 guys that are missing in the pictures from the guys section on that cast spoiler post are going to be Tyler and Ryan.

Just because somebody is ripped & has big muscles doesn't mean they have functional strength. I see guys at my gym that weigh 200 pounds doing heavier poundages on their sets than videos I've seen of 280 pound pro bodybuilders doing the same exercises.

[QUOTE=Debut Album;282308]Why would it be risky to cast a bunch of new people? They've done it several times before and the show survived. Both Battle of the Sexes had primarly new faces as did The Duel 1 and The Gauntlet 2(I might rethink this) And back then they didn't know how the newbies would be either. I know the show was in better shape ratings wise but still. I bet they didn't know what to expect with them. And It's not like the General Public won't know anything about recent castmembers...I mean People are still watching The Real World and let's not forget that a bunch of Non-castmembers jumped in on these things and the show didn't suffer for it(But it should have IMO)so I think that Casting several newbies would be a good thing..Because Like I said CT(or any of the other older castmembers) won't say yes everytime.[/QUOTE] I know it's always good to have new faces but I thought you were saying you wanted ALL new faces. If both CT and someone who has never done a challenge before said yes to being on a challenge and they only had room for 1 more person, I'd pick CT because I know for a fact he'll add something to the show whereas it's no guarantee that the new face will.

Maybe they are going Old school vs New School

I like the idea of Good Relationships vs Bad Relationships better than putting couples against each other. I mean say Johnny is paired with Casey, that's a VERY unfair split for two different teams.

[QUOTE=gamer73;286168]Ayiiia is still tweeting, no word on Brianna.[/QUOTE] Brianna would only be on if Joey was, and he's said numerous times that he wants to be on the next challenge, so I wouldn't rule her out.

[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;286426]My guess is that they needed her in order to get CT to fit into the theme of the show.[/QUOTE] I wish they could've got Luarel, lol.

I do find it quite ironic because all Adam ever does is **** Nany over.

[QUOTE=blanky667;286918]Nate just tweeted, I guess someone is running his account too.[/QUOTE] Or maybe he got eliminated. I hope not though:/

I remember back in the day I thought Abram and Wes were the same person, and thus they never appeared on a show together. Glad to finally see them now together.

Well, if this IS a pairs challenge and the cast is complete, then undoubtedly Rachel/Aneesa will be at a considerable disadvantage. Perhaps a gay couple dropped out at the last minute and Rachel/Aneesa were given the option of whether to compete with male/female pairs or be dropped?

[QUOTE=CzarEric;288217]1) didn't molds already state Darrell is NOT there? 2) Um... this is news to me. I don't remember Aneesa making out with or stripping for anybody on the Gauntlet 3, though I'm pretty sure that has to do with the fact that she wasn't on that challenge.[/QUOTE] I think they meant Gauntlet 2 where she stripped for Mark. And the making out I think was with Derrick on the Duel or Dunbar on the Duel 2. Molds did say that she didnt believe Darrell wasnt apart of this challenge. The only others Rachel has "hooked up" with are Abram and Evan.

[QUOTE=TSPKM2;288429]Well Jasmine has the stature of a 12 year old. Tyrie has never gotten the short end of the stick on past challenges, he has just flat out lost 3 of his past challenges and quit 1. He has the stature that should be a strong competitor but he isnt.[/QUOTE] On this I agree. I would guess the politics kept them in longer than the prowess.

[QUOTE=JL81790;289492]At least 7/8 people that are left either haven't won or haven't won in FOREVER (Mark).[/QUOTE] Yeah, there's a 50% chance that someone who has at least 7 losses will win (CT/Robin). Robin is the person with the most challenge appearances without a single win - 8 (could be 9 by the end of filming). After her elimination, Aneesa now has 8 losses as well. CT has 7 losses and could be up to 8 by the end of filming. Disappointed to see Abram/Cara Maria - they were my favorite team left.

[QUOTE=townie;289754][B]Just because somebody is ripped & has big muscles doesn't mean they have functional strength.[/B] I see guys at my gym that weigh 200 pounds doing heavier poundages on their sets than videos I've seen of 280 pound pro bodybuilders doing the same exercises.[/QUOTE] See Ty

Idk if this means anything or if they even have to take the kind of test. but who else will pay for him to take the kind of test? [url=http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=11890][img]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/45554e97a93f76d2b.png[/img][/url]

Also, I know this may seem a bit farfetch'd but Johanna has been talking a lot about working out lately. There also isn't any evidence that she's still dating her boyfriend as far as I can see from her Facebook...If we're looking at a couples challenge, she could be a possibility for Wes or Kenny. [url=http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=11949][img]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/18234ea82b9645d33.png[/img][/url] [url=http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=11950][img]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/18234ea82b9ede113.png[/img][/url]

[QUOTE=Nightwolf;285403]I like the idea of Good Relationships vs Bad Relationships better than putting couples against each other. I mean say Johnny is paired with Casey, that's a VERY unfair split for two different teams.[/QUOTE] Splitting teams up with guy/girls isn't necessarily ever going to be fair. I'm sure if Casey were on the challenge, they would find a way to somewhat make up for her lack of athletic abilities by putting someone almost just as bad as her.