I've always felt like Tony was an Instagram dad and him being with controlling Alyssa also didn't help my intuition. They'll probably use his Challenge appearances and alcoholism against him.
I've always felt like Tony was an Instagram dad and him being with controlling Alyssa also didn't help my intuition. They'll probably use his Challenge appearances and alcoholism against him.
they will agree out side I honestly think. It seems they have a good relationship I mean they let Tony see harper basically whenever. I mean Madison is still young she won’t remember if they give her to Tony, But the biggest thing is when Madison wants harper back, courts don’t take that lightly
Honestly props to Jemmye. A lot of "feminists" only take issue with women's issues and ignore men's issues. She's right - if Tony can provide a stable home, Harper should be with him. It's difficult because I'm sure Madison's parents want Harper, but if the shoe was on the other foot and it was (sober/healthy) Madison who wanted Harper and Tony's parents wanting her too, there would be no question in court and Madison would have her.
I agree with Jemmye. If there is a capable parent who is willling to take the child they should be able to. And it would be nice for Harper to be able to spend more time with her sister.
This sucks to hear about Madison, and I really hope she gets better.
I saw that post on Instagram and everyone keeps talking about how hard it would be for the child to move across states and all that. I moved several times when I was younger and am totally fine, it’s easier on kids than teens (also moved in my teen years). It’s disgusting Tony is being cut off from his daughter, even if he is unable to provide full time care he should be able to maintain the same routine. I don’t know a whole lot abought custody since that’s something I’ve never known someone to deal with, since his name isn’t on his daughters birth certificate does that mean he doesn’t have parental rights?
Harper is young enough to move states. Her mom is wrong talking about he sure posts her a lot on instagram. Well he’s posting her because clearly he’s been having her a lot, while your daughter was lord knows where. Madison is wrong for what she is doing period. I could understand if Tony was a bad parent but clearly he isn’t. I hope this works out for Tony. & why isnt he on the birth certificate? The mom’s comments make me feel like she would keep Tony away from Harper
This is why you gotta watch who you lay down with and stay using protection, it only takes one time and then you’re stuck with a fool for waaay too long.
I don’t think tony would win this because he travels so much and Alyssa and him aren’t married.
I agree. He leaves for months at a time and is probably about to do it again.
It's ok for CT to do it, it's ok for Day to do it, hell, it's ok for Tony to do it to his other daughter, but SOMEHOW it would be detrimental to Harper? Tony has shown nothing but that he's a good father. Harper should be with his father. Better than his drugged out mother that's for sure.
Harper is young enough to move states. Her mom is wrong talking about he sure posts her a lot on instagram. Well he’s posting her because clearly he’s been having her a lot, while your daughter was lord knows where. Madison is wrong for what she is doing period. I could understand if Tony was a bad parent but clearly he isn’t. I hope this works out for Tony. & why isnt he on the birth certificate? The mom’s comments make me feel like she would keep Tony away from HarperThis is why you gotta watch who you lay down with and stay using protection, it only takes one time and then you’re stuck with a fool for waaay too long.
Say it louder for people in the back!
But I do agree that Tony should get custody of the kid. He seems like a good parent and would provide a decent enviorment as well.
Slayvia2370 wrote:I don’t think tony would win this because he travels so much and Alyssa and him aren’t married.
I agree. He leaves for months at a time and is probably about to do it again.
It's ok for CT to do it, it's ok for Day to do it, hell, it's ok for Tony to do it to his other daughter, but SOMEHOW it would be detrimental to Harper? Tony has shown nothing but that he's a good father. Harper should be with his father. Better than his drugged out mother that's for sure.
Madisons mom commented on a comment on tony's picture with alyssa harper and isla(the one on the train tracks if you want to read it) basically saying Madison got her identity stolen and other things had to step out of the picture and that shes sober. it just doesnt make sense and is not a reason to give over custody of a child. It seems like there trying everything they can to deny her relapsing, which i understand she might not want out because she has so many supporters and followers, she could be ashamed that she is doing drugs and has a child, and probably doesnt want all the hate online, because she was known as the "good" parent and tony was considered a ****** parent.
Also Tony once didnt see his child for 6 months, but it appears now with this going on, he is seeing her at least once a month, and it makes sense if he is taking it to the courts that he has to step up and see her more, because obviously if hed see her once every 6 months like he was, he wouldnt have as much of a case. Even if this is the reason hes stepped up, which is sad because that means he wasnt putting as much effort as he could have before, its still good that he is trying now. Clearly something is going on and Madison most likely relapsed and her family is trying their best to deny it and come up with random excuses.
Madison is clearly no saint. So at this point who knows why he wasn’t seeing Harper enough.
I really wanna go in about this situation. But im trying to leave it just as I hope Harper will be okay. To go from having your mother since birth to her obviously being gone suddenly is probably tough on her. It looks like Tony and Alyssa have been doing a lot to keep her happy, so good for them.
The court system in family court is against the father most times unfortunately. Too many times I’ve heard or witnessed stories where the father would not be granted custody despite being the better parental option.
People really doing team Madison, team Tony, and team Harper like this is some twilight love triangle... chile. Let’s hope that precious little girl just gets the care and affection she needs to succeed, with whomever she may end up living with
Does anyone know why Tony never moved near Madison to be close to Harper?
It seems like Tony and Madison were in the same state when dating but when she got pregnant (Alyssa was stalking her and Tony at that time as well if I not mistaken) , so she moved in with her parents for financial and moral support , Tony and Madi had a bad breakup and I think he denied the baby (didn't want to keep it or denied being the father) so she left and moved to back to Texas. This is also speculation based on their social media accounts at the time.
Does anyone know why Tony never moved near Madison to be close to Harper?
It seems like Tony and Madison were in the same state when dating but when she got pregnant (Alyssa was stalking her and Tony at that time as well if I not mistaken) , so she moved in with her parents for financial and moral support , Tony and Madi had a bad breakup and I think he denied the baby (didn't want to keep it or denied being the father) so she left and moved to back to Texas. This is also speculation based on their social media accounts at the time.
Ah okay, so she was the one who moved away. He probably should have moved to Texas too to be close to Harper but i guess theres things we dont know about them that might explain why he didnt.
Does anyone know why Tony never moved near Madison to be close to Harper?
It seems like Tony and Madison were in the same state when dating but when she got pregnant (Alyssa was stalking her and Tony at that time as well if I not mistaken) , so she moved in with her parents for financial and moral support , Tony and Madi had a bad breakup and I think he denied the baby (didn't want to keep it or denied being the father) so she left and moved to back to Texas. This is also speculation based on their social media accounts at the time.
he never denied the baby was his, they bought a place together, Tony went on Bloodlines he cheated on her with Christina (he didn’t know she wAs prego at the time) came home Shane told Madison he cheated. Madison left back to Texas since she was only in Louisiana because of Tony. Tony was there for the birth stayed with Madison for a week or 2.
Madisons mom commented on a comment on tony's picture with alyssa harper and isla(the one on the train tracks if you want to read it) basically saying Madison got her identity stolen and other things had to step out of the picture and that shes sober. it just doesnt make sense and is not a reason to give over custody of a child. It seems like there trying everything they can to deny her relapsing, which i understand she might not want out because she has so many supporters and followers, she could be ashamed that she is doing drugs and has a child, and probably doesnt want all the hate online, because she was known as the "good" parent and tony was considered a ****** parent. Also Tony once didnt see his child for 6 months, but it appears now with this going on, he is seeing her at least once a month, and it makes sense if he is taking it to the courts that he has to step up and see her more, because obviously if hed see her once every 6 months like he was, he wouldnt have as much of a case. Even if this is the reason hes stepped up, which is sad because that means he wasnt putting as much effort as he could have before, its still good that he is trying now. Clearly something is going on and Madison most likely relapsed and her family is trying their best to deny it and come up with random excuses.
tony may not have seen her, been Madison even admired they would FaceTime almost daily. I mean the Madison/Tony/Alyssa thing Madison wouldn't really allow Alyssa to come with
Are people really surprised with this? In 90% court automatically gives child to the mother and in other 10% court tries to give child to the mother. For mother to lose child custody, she needs to do some serious shit.
For example here where I live court gave child custody to father only after mother was placed interpol wanted list for kidnaping child and taking it illegally to another country.
agreed that’s messed up cause tony has been nothing but a good dad
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I don’t think tony would win this because he travels so much and Alyssa and him aren’t married.
Victoria Dehel . Who would've thought that those 2 would be smart and not go on tv with their real names
I mean Tony must go be his middle name. Victoria’s is worse she changed her last name for tv
I've always felt like Tony was an Instagram dad and him being with controlling Alyssa also didn't help my intuition. They'll probably use his Challenge appearances and alcoholism against him.
they will agree out side I honestly think. It seems they have a good relationship I mean they let Tony see harper basically whenever. I mean Madison is still young she won’t remember if they give her to Tony, But the biggest thing is when Madison wants harper back, courts don’t take that lightly
If they were on Jerry SPringer I feel like Tony would go after that guy Madison is with while Madison has a mental breakdown.
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Honestly props to Jemmye. A lot of "feminists" only take issue with women's issues and ignore men's issues. She's right - if Tony can provide a stable home, Harper should be with him. It's difficult because I'm sure Madison's parents want Harper, but if the shoe was on the other foot and it was (sober/healthy) Madison who wanted Harper and Tony's parents wanting her too, there would be no question in court and Madison would have her.
I agree with Jemmye. If there is a capable parent who is willling to take the child they should be able to. And it would be nice for Harper to be able to spend more time with her sister.
This sucks to hear about Madison, and I really hope she gets better.
I saw that post on Instagram and everyone keeps talking about how hard it would be for the child to move across states and all that. I moved several times when I was younger and am totally fine, it’s easier on kids than teens (also moved in my teen years). It’s disgusting Tony is being cut off from his daughter, even if he is unable to provide full time care he should be able to maintain the same routine. I don’t know a whole lot abought custody since that’s something I’ve never known someone to deal with, since his name isn’t on his daughters birth certificate does that mean he doesn’t have parental rights?
Harper is young enough to move states. Her mom is wrong talking about he sure posts her a lot on instagram. Well he’s posting her because clearly he’s been having her a lot, while your daughter was lord knows where. Madison is wrong for what she is doing period. I could understand if Tony was a bad parent but clearly he isn’t. I hope this works out for Tony. & why isnt he on the birth certificate? The mom’s comments make me feel like she would keep Tony away from Harper
This is why you gotta watch who you lay down with and stay using protection, it only takes one time and then you’re stuck with a fool for waaay too long.
I agree. He leaves for months at a time and is probably about to do it again.
I don’t think tony would do another challenge during a legal battle for the custody of his child
It's ok for CT to do it, it's ok for Day to do it, hell, it's ok for Tony to do it to his other daughter, but SOMEHOW it would be detrimental to Harper? Tony has shown nothing but that he's a good father. Harper should be with his father. Better than his drugged out mother that's for sure.
Say it louder for people in the back!
But I do agree that Tony should get custody of the kid. He seems like a good parent and would provide a decent enviorment as well.
Madisons mom commented on a comment on tony's picture with alyssa harper and isla(the one on the train tracks if you want to read it) basically saying Madison got her identity stolen and other things had to step out of the picture and that shes sober. it just doesnt make sense and is not a reason to give over custody of a child. It seems like there trying everything they can to deny her relapsing, which i understand she might not want out because she has so many supporters and followers, she could be ashamed that she is doing drugs and has a child, and probably doesnt want all the hate online, because she was known as the "good" parent and tony was considered a ****** parent.
Also Tony once didnt see his child for 6 months, but it appears now with this going on, he is seeing her at least once a month, and it makes sense if he is taking it to the courts that he has to step up and see her more, because obviously if hed see her once every 6 months like he was, he wouldnt have as much of a case. Even if this is the reason hes stepped up, which is sad because that means he wasnt putting as much effort as he could have before, its still good that he is trying now. Clearly something is going on and Madison most likely relapsed and her family is trying their best to deny it and come up with random excuses.
Madison is clearly no saint. So at this point who knows why he wasn’t seeing Harper enough.
I really wanna go in about this situation. But im trying to leave it just as I hope Harper will be okay. To go from having your mother since birth to her obviously being gone suddenly is probably tough on her. It looks like Tony and Alyssa have been doing a lot to keep her happy, so good for them.
I agree with Jemmyes post
The court system in family court is against the father most times unfortunately. Too many times I’ve heard or witnessed stories where the father would not be granted custody despite being the better parental option.
Does anyone know why Tony never moved near Madison to be close to Harper?
People really doing team Madison, team Tony, and team Harper like this is some twilight love triangle... chile. Let’s hope that precious little girl just gets the care and affection she needs to succeed, with whomever she may end up living with
It seems like Tony and Madison were in the same state when dating but when she got pregnant (Alyssa was stalking her and Tony at that time as well if I not mistaken) , so she moved in with her parents for financial and moral support , Tony and Madi had a bad breakup and I think he denied the baby (didn't want to keep it or denied being the father) so she left and moved to back to Texas. This is also speculation based on their social media accounts at the time.
Ah okay, so she was the one who moved away. He probably should have moved to Texas too to be close to Harper but i guess theres things we dont know about them that might explain why he didnt.
he never denied the baby was his, they bought a place together, Tony went on Bloodlines he cheated on her with Christina (he didn’t know she wAs prego at the time) came home Shane told Madison he cheated. Madison left back to Texas since she was only in Louisiana because of Tony. Tony was there for the birth stayed with Madison for a week or 2.
tony may not have seen her, been Madison even admired they would FaceTime almost daily. I mean the Madison/Tony/Alyssa thing Madison wouldn't really allow Alyssa to come with
Are people really surprised with this? In 90% court automatically gives child to the mother and in other 10% court tries to give child to the mother. For mother to lose child custody, she needs to do some serious shit.
For example here where I live court gave child custody to father only after mother was placed interpol wanted list for kidnaping child and taking it illegally to another country.
Wait i thought the custody battle is between the father and the grandparents?
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