Being attractive or a good athlete doesnt get you cast season after season he can ask Ashley k, Derrick , Mark , Dario, TY etc. At some point they will drop him and losed his number.
Idris who thugging out on social media (while being wallpaper the whole show) and Alan outbursts after Vets' first impressions of him are both more entertaining than Joss.
They should get called back to the show instead of him.
He is boring, before, during and after the show. He adds nothing whatsoever.
No , Idris need to stay gone with his twin Gus. I have never see 2 ppl do so little and brag so much.
Idris is dry *** **** too despite all the talk he does on social media.
Being attractive or a good athlete doesnt get you cast season after season he can ask Ashley k, Derrick , Mark , Dario, TY etc. At some point they will drop him and losed his number.
Why do you say that? Just from this thread alone you can tell plenty of people think he's a solid part of the cast. Reality TV is bad when too many of the cast members are messy. You need straightforward cast members as well.
Are you reading the same thread as me? Half of the comments are talking about him being good looking and the other half is about how boring he is.
This season should had been his breakthrough as a main like production wanted but he lacks personality. He is part of the main big alliance and has his best friend there still failed to bring something to the table entertainment wise. He has tried to make "Jogan" happenned but that friendship has failed miserably as an storyline. When power duos or friendships like that usually can become main storylines on seasons (Jke, Jailah, Cara/Susie, The mean girls, Lavender Ladies) but not his because he is dry and boring.
Being attractive or a good athlete doesnt get you cast season after season he can ask Ashley k, Derrick , Mark , Dario, TY etc. At some point they will drop him and losed his number. Even background characters needs to have a certain charm to them to attract certain viewers like even Jenna/Leroy does and he doesnt even have that.
Why do you say that? Just from this thread alone you can tell plenty of people think he's a solid part of the cast. Reality TV is bad when too many of the cast members are messy. You need straightforward cast members as well.
Are you reading the same thread as me? Half of the comments are talking about him being good looking and the other half is about how boring he is.
This season should had been his breakthrough as a main like production wanted but he lacks personality. He is part of the main big alliance and has his best friend there still failed to bring something to the table entertainment wise. He has tried to make "Jogan" happenned but that friendship has failed miserably as an storyline. When power duos or friendships like that usually can become main storylines on seasons (Jke, Jailah, Cara/Susie, The mean girls, Lavender Ladies) but not his because he is dry and boring.
Being attractive or a good athlete doesnt get you cast season after season he can ask Ashley k, Derrick , Mark , Dario, TY etc. At some point they will drop him and losed his number. Even background characters needs to have a certain charm to them to attract certain viewers like even Jenna/Leroy does and he doesnt even have that.
Joss is no Ty.. Ty gave us great moments :)
Yeah he did lol He was actually entertaining on his other seasons except for the last one that he pissed them off over the stuff he did for weekly confessionals that they decide not to asked him back
I wouldn’t be surprised if he was moved down to alternate status after this season I think production knows he ain’t bringing shit to the table
well wasn't he an alt for WOTW1? This season made sense bc of the theme and Rogan needed his bff. I love Joss (for competition and eye candy purposes), but I would rather have Cain back on instead at this point if we're gonna have a fit Uk non newbie.
Ashley Cain was almost invisible too except for making josh cry lol
joss is boring, yes. But he’s a good enough athlete to be elite and I think that could happen with the right format. The guy needs a fully individual season and I think we might see something special then.
I know we wouldnt lol At this point has proof enough times that his personalities isnt made for reality tv.
special in terms of I think he’d succeed on his own and probably win a lot of the dailies and such. If he’s in power and is a main part of the game, he’s going to bring stuff regardless of whether he’s vanilla.
Hes like Landon to me. Landon and him both have good looks and some charm (Landon more-so), and Landon is elite while joss has potential to be elite. I think his only saving grace would be an individual challenge because he would shine competitively, whereas on the seasons he’s been on, he hasn’t really had that chance.
But it's a REALITY TV SHOW. Darrell which has more personality doesn't even get cast nowadays.
Joss is great in competitions, and nobody is taking that from him. However, he's tremendously BORING. He has no temper or personality whatsoever, to make the show interesting.
In comparison, Turbo and Hunter are both great competitors, but their short tempers, are giving them some kind of character and storylines. Joss has NONE of that. That's why he shouldn't be cast back (and I love him)
It's okay to have a few cast members who are boring and are jus good at the competitions. That's why joss is one of my favs. He kills it
I wouldn’t be surprised if he was moved down to alternate status after this season I think production knows he ain’t bringing shit to the table
well wasn't he an alt for WOTW1? This season made sense bc of the theme and Rogan needed his bff. I love Joss (for competition and eye candy purposes), but I would rather have Cain back on instead at this point if we're gonna have a fit Uk non newbie.
Ashley Cain was almost invisible too except for making josh cry lol
joss is boring, yes. But he’s a good enough athlete to be elite and I think that could happen with the right format. The guy needs a fully individual season and I think we might see something special then.
I know we wouldnt lol At this point has proof enough times that his personalities isnt made for reality tv.
special in terms of I think he’d succeed on his own and probably win a lot of the dailies and such. If he’s in power and is a main part of the game, he’s going to bring stuff regardless of whether he’s vanilla.
Hes like Landon to me. Landon and him both have good looks and some charm (Landon more-so), and Landon is elite while joss has potential to be elite. I think his only saving grace would be an individual challenge because he would shine competitively, whereas on the seasons he’s been on, he hasn’t really had that chance.
But it's a REALITY TV SHOW. Darrell which has more personality doesn't even get cast nowadays.
Joss is great in competitions, and nobody is taking that from him. However, he's tremendously BORING. He has no temper or personality whatsoever, to make the show interesting.
In comparison, Turbo and Hunter are both great competitors, but their short tempers, are giving them some kind of character and storylines. Joss has NONE of that. That's why he shouldn't be cast back (and I love him)
It's okay to have a few cast members who are boring and are jus good at the competitions. That's why joss is one of my favs. He kills it
Yeah, with a cast of 20 + people, not everyone needs to be this huge character. And he gets the appropriate amount of screen time anyways. He's not shoved in our screens. Needss more shirtless scenes thoooo
I wouldn't be surprised if he was moved down to alternate status after this season I think production knows he ain't bringing shit to the table
well wasn't he an alt for WOTW1? This season made sense bc of the theme and Rogan needed his bff. I love Joss (for competition and eye candy purposes), but I would rather have Cain back on instead at this point if we're gonna have a fit Uk non newbie.
Ashley Cain was almost invisible too except for making josh cry lol
joss is boring, yes. But he's a good enough athlete to be elite and I think that could happen with the right format. The guy needs a fully individual season and I think we might see something special then.
I know we wouldnt lol At this point has proof enough times that his personalities isnt made for reality tv.
special in terms of I think he'd succeed on his own and probably win a lot of the dailies and such. If he's in power and is a main part of the game, he's going to bring stuff regardless of whether he's vanilla.
Hes like Landon to me. Landon and him both have good looks and some charm (Landon more-so), and Landon is elite while joss has potential to be elite. I think his only saving grace would be an individual challenge because he would shine competitively, whereas on the seasons he's been on, he hasn't really had that chance.
But it's a REALITY TV SHOW. Darrell which has more personality doesn't even get cast nowadays.
Joss is great in competitions, and nobody is taking that from him. However, he's tremendously BORING. He has no temper or personality whatsoever, to make the show interesting.
In comparison, Turbo and Hunter are both great competitors, but their short tempers, are giving them some kind of character and storylines. Joss has NONE of that. That's why he shouldn't be cast back (and I love him)
It's okay to have a few cast members who are boring and are jus good at the competitions. That's why joss is one of my favs. He kills it
Nobody said otherwise. Hunter is far from entertaining but at least he has some kind of character, Joss has NONE which was the whole point since the beginning !!!
Plus, MTV don't give a **** about competitors, because where are Darrell, Landon, DerricKKK, Emily S, etc...? Exactly, HOME !
I wouldn't be surprised if he was moved down to alternate status after this season I think production knows he ain't bringing shit to the table
well wasn't he an alt for WOTW1? This season made sense bc of the theme and Rogan needed his bff. I love Joss (for competition and eye candy purposes), but I would rather have Cain back on instead at this point if we're gonna have a fit Uk non newbie.
Ashley Cain was almost invisible too except for making josh cry lol
joss is boring, yes. But he's a good enough athlete to be elite and I think that could happen with the right format. The guy needs a fully individual season and I think we might see something special then.
I know we wouldnt lol At this point has proof enough times that his personalities isnt made for reality tv.
special in terms of I think he'd succeed on his own and probably win a lot of the dailies and such. If he's in power and is a main part of the game, he's going to bring stuff regardless of whether he's vanilla.
Hes like Landon to me. Landon and him both have good looks and some charm (Landon more-so), and Landon is elite while joss has potential to be elite. I think his only saving grace would be an individual challenge because he would shine competitively, whereas on the seasons he's been on, he hasn't really had that chance.
But it's a REALITY TV SHOW. Darrell which has more personality doesn't even get cast nowadays.
Joss is great in competitions, and nobody is taking that from him. However, he's tremendously BORING. He has no temper or personality whatsoever, to make the show interesting.
In comparison, Turbo and Hunter are both great competitors, but their short tempers, are giving them some kind of character and storylines. Joss has NONE of that. That's why he shouldn't be cast back (and I love him)
It's okay to have a few cast members who are boring and are jus good at the competitions. That's why joss is one of my favs. He kills it
Nobody said otherwise. Hunter is far from entertaining but at least he has some kind of character, Joss has NONE which was the whole point since the beginning !!!
Plus, MTV don't give a **** about competitors, because where are Darrell, Landon, DerricKKK, Emily S, etc...? Exactly, HOME !
I wouldn't be surprised if he was moved down to alternate status after this season I think production knows he ain't bringing shit to the table
well wasn't he an alt for WOTW1? This season made sense bc of the theme and Rogan needed his bff. I love Joss (for competition and eye candy purposes), but I would rather have Cain back on instead at this point if we're gonna have a fit Uk non newbie.
Ashley Cain was almost invisible too except for making josh cry lol
joss is boring, yes. But he's a good enough athlete to be elite and I think that could happen with the right format. The guy needs a fully individual season and I think we might see something special then.
I know we wouldnt lol At this point has proof enough times that his personalities isnt made for reality tv.
special in terms of I think he'd succeed on his own and probably win a lot of the dailies and such. If he's in power and is a main part of the game, he's going to bring stuff regardless of whether he's vanilla.
Hes like Landon to me. Landon and him both have good looks and some charm (Landon more-so), and Landon is elite while joss has potential to be elite. I think his only saving grace would be an individual challenge because he would shine competitively, whereas on the seasons he's been on, he hasn't really had that chance.
But it's a REALITY TV SHOW. Darrell which has more personality doesn't even get cast nowadays.
Joss is great in competitions, and nobody is taking that from him. However, he's tremendously BORING. He has no temper or personality whatsoever, to make the show interesting.
In comparison, Turbo and Hunter are both great competitors, but their short tempers, are giving them some kind of character and storylines. Joss has NONE of that. That's why he shouldn't be cast back (and I love him)
It's okay to have a few cast members who are boring and are jus good at the competitions. That's why joss is one of my favs. He kills it
Nobody said otherwise. Hunter is far from entertaining but at least he has some kind of character, Joss has NONE which was the whole point since the beginning !!!
Plus, MTV don't give a **** about competitors, because where are Darrell, Landon, DerricKKK, Emily S, etc...? Exactly, HOME !
You really think MTV is rejecting Landon & Emily S? I'm pretty sure it's the other way around.
Mhmmmm Landon himself basically confirmed it on challengemania podcast. MTV asked him once in a while and whenever he wants to negotiate money or ask for certain conditions he doenst hear back from them.
If they really wanted him they would offered him more money and find a middle ground with conditions like they do with people they actually really want back. But they never negotiate with him they just dont call him back after the initial availability call.
Mhmmmm but that's the thing nobody is trying to force him, he actually would be open to do it based on what he has said. They are the ones making the decision of not having him by not negotiating or listening to his money conditions while they do for other cast members.
You really think MTV is rejecting Landon & Emily S? I'm pretty sure it's the other way around.
If MTV really wanted them, they would cast them by any mean necessary...
You know they can't actually force them to show up right? There are plenty of people they keep asking but turn them down
Oh really ? Just like roses are red and the sky is blue ??! Color me shocked !
Landon was interested but with some conditions and they didn't follow further with him, so it speak for itself...!
First of all, the condition was money. They don't pay him enough to leave his career on hold for some reality tv trash.
Secondly, let's not act like Landon is worth the money that would entice him to do the show anyway. He's a great competitor but much like Joss, provides not much besides being a great athletism and nostalgia.
Mhmmmm but that's the thing nobody is trying to force him, he actually would be open to do it based on what he has said. They are the ones making the decision of not having him by not negotiating or listening to his money conditions while they do for other cast members.
I wasn’t talking about Landon. I see they don’t want him that bad, I’m making the general statement that there are people out there, not Landon, that no matter how much they want them, they will not do the show. That’s just how it is with anything.
Mhmmmm but that's the thing nobody is trying to force him, he actually would be open to do it based on what he has said. They are the ones making the decision of not having him by not negotiating or listening to his money conditions while they do for other cast members.
I wasn’t talking about Landon. I see they don’t want him that bad, I’m making the general statement that there are people out there, not Landon, that no matter how much they want them, they will not do the show. That’s just how it is with anything.
Never seen someone cause so little problems and have y’all all in a fuss about him being there. He’s wallpaper, but he’s an amazing competitor and he’s hot. Why do y’all care so much lol there’s already too many big personalities and too many people trying too hard for screentime. He’s harmless.
Never seen someone cause so little problems and have y’all all in a fuss about him being there. He’s wallpaper, but he’s an amazing competitor and he’s hot. Why do y’all care so much lol there’s already too many big personalities and too many people trying too hard for screentime. He’s harmless.
Nope ! Daddy Cory suffice ❤️❤️❤️❤️
King provides in every shape or form. >>>>>>>>>
I'm an advocate for more than one hot man on the show, so I welcome Cory and his sexiness.
Derrick is attractive?
No , Idris need to stay gone with his twin Gus. I have never see 2 ppl do so little and brag so much.
Idris is dry *** **** too despite all the talk he does on social media.
He fits the good athlete part.
Joss is no Ty.. Ty gave us great moments :)
Yeah he did lol He was actually entertaining on his other seasons except for the last one that he pissed them off over the stuff he did for weekly confessionals that they decide not to asked him back
It's okay to have a few cast members who are boring and are jus good at the competitions. That's why joss is one of my favs. He kills it
Yeah, with a cast of 20 + people, not everyone needs to be this huge character. And he gets the appropriate amount of screen time anyways. He's not shoved in our screens. Needss more shirtless scenes thoooo
Nobody said otherwise. Hunter is far from entertaining but at least he has some kind of character, Joss has NONE which was the whole point since the beginning !!!
Plus, MTV don't give a **** about competitors, because where are Darrell, Landon, DerricKKK, Emily S, etc...? Exactly, HOME !
Lol relax
You really think MTV is rejecting Landon & Emily S? I'm pretty sure it's the other way around.
Hes hot and can compete. Good enough for me. Wish he had a personality instead of being like a sexy robot tho
If MTV really wanted them, they would cast them by any mean necessary...
You know they can't actually force them to show up right? There are plenty of people they keep asking but turn them down
Oh really ? Just like roses are red and the sky is blue ??! Color me shocked !
Landon was interested but with some conditions and they didn't follow further with him, so it speak for itself...!
Mhmmmm Landon himself basically confirmed it on challengemania podcast. MTV asked him once in a while and whenever he wants to negotiate money or ask for certain conditions he doenst hear back from them.
If they really wanted him they would offered him more money and find a middle ground with conditions like they do with people they actually really want back. But they never negotiate with him they just dont call him back after the initial availability call.
Still, you can’t force people to do a tv show.
Mhmmmm but that's the thing nobody is trying to force him, he actually would be open to do it based on what he has said. They are the ones making the decision of not having him by not negotiating or listening to his money conditions while they do for other cast members.
First of all, the condition was money. They don't pay him enough to leave his career on hold for some reality tv trash.
Secondly, let's not act like Landon is worth the money that would entice him to do the show anyway. He's a great competitor but much like Joss, provides not much besides being a great athletism and nostalgia.
I wasn’t talking about Landon. I see they don’t want him that bad, I’m making the general statement that there are people out there, not Landon, that no matter how much they want them, they will not do the show. That’s just how it is with anything.
Oh yeah
Girl even what makes him "attractive" is boring. 100% lean and who told him this blonde was a look?
Wheres the flavor?
Joss reminds me of CJ. They both were great competitors, but were very boring and didn't have the personality for Reality TV.
Snooze
Never seen someone cause so little problems and have y’all all in a fuss about him being there. He’s wallpaper, but he’s an amazing competitor and he’s hot. Why do y’all care so much lol there’s already too many big personalities and too many people trying too hard for screentime. He’s harmless.
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