The Challenge: War of The Worlds II: GIve Me Liberty or Give Me Cash

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out of that winning team, only Jordan deserved it the most. He killed it all season...

i felt so bad for leroy but he picked the wrong side. It was funny because when he went at it with Jordan.. Jordan said I'm gonna switch over and whoop your ***... and he did.

Man team US would have been better off walking the entire first stage and not even touching any checkpoints and they would have been nice and well rested and only have to make up 5 minutes. Like they gave them a 10 minute time penalty, which meant absolutely nothing since they could have lost the first day by literally an entire day and would only have a five minute penalty. This show has some bonkers *** rules which gives people like Cara & Bananas BS wins. If Cara solved that puzzle and won it for the US after they lost their three likable players....man I couldn't even imagine the reaction

 

When is the reunion?

Next week. Two hours.

And that's only part 1

 

 

When is the reunion?

Next week. Two hours.

And that's only part 1

Cant be can it? Must be "two parts" like WOTW1 was, just all in one but split up online

That was a terrible part 2

That was a terrible part 2

For real, worst part was them cutting people with like 15 minutes to go in the episode, when it should have been in part one. Like the result of the final was pretty much already determined barring a miracle and you're just gonna tell these guys to **** off over a puzzle

Sucks for Kam, Leroy, and Ashley. All that hard work for nothing - especially Leroy. I think if Paulie was a better person, he would have let Leroy go ahead of him. Leroy was right that it was terrible that Paulie who did the least the day before got to go ahead. 

And Cara is def annoying, but Zach is such a loser when it comes to her - he always thought she was a good player, said he would run finals with her in previous seasons, but one falling out changes his opinion of her for this season? Like, I don't think his opinion is wrong - I wouldn't want to run with her either just because of how whiney she is - but that's stupid. At least Jordan was consistent in his (accurate) opinion that she was overrated. 

Speaking of stupid, it's idiotic for them to time out that last puzzle. If you're going to have a puzzle, make it mean something and make them solve it ffs.

Idk how the US lost when it looked like their team puzzle was almost done at one point and then someone moved pieces. They should have let one person try it - maybe two - and leave everyone else out. Reminded me of the Gaunlet 2 Bad ***** who got in each other's way the whole season to lose when they could have won. 

Honestly the finals are always pretty boring for me it's just a bunch of running and puzzles 

Sucks for Kam, Leroy, and Ashley. All that hard work for nothing - especially Leroy. I think if Paulie was a better person, he would have let Leroy go ahead of him. Leroy was right that it was terrible that Paulie who did the least the day before got to go ahead. 

And Cara is def annoying, but Zach is such a loser when it comes to her - he always thought she was a good player, said he would run finals with her in previous seasons, but one falling out changes his opinion of her for this season? Like, I don't think his opinion is wrong - I wouldn't want to run with her either just because of how whiney she is - but that's stupid. At least Jordan was consistent in his (accurate) opinion that she was overrated. 

Speaking of stupid, it's idiotic for them to time out that last puzzle. If you're going to have a puzzle, make it mean something and make them solve it ffs.

Idk how the US lost when it looked like their team puzzle was almost done at one point and then someone moved pieces. They should have let one person try it - maybe two - and leave everyone else out. Reminded me of the Gaunlet 2 Bad ***** who got in each other's way the whole season to lose when they could have won. 

I always thought no matter only 1-2 should touch the puzzle. Everyone else visually move pieces or just watch. Everyone holding a piece and trying to randomly fit them justc chaos. But no one has the patience for that on this show 

Paulie posted that his kidney gave out so maybe that's what they were referring too. Zach looked fine to me 

Can't believe but CT had the best showing throughout this final. Yeah he forced a 10 min DQ but that was completely forgotten on day 2. Jordan was really non-existent on these puzzles, he was great everywhere else but puzzles ...

Team UK had the best strategy and for Zach to complain about how weak Team US was, imaging them doing the purge and having even more players with Bananas, Wes, Laurel, Paulie etc... he would have been purged and the first part would have been even harder. It came down to the five minute headstart. 

Realllyyy sucks for Leroy tho, i hope he wins one preferably with no Bananas around.

i can't diss kam or leroy anymore after this, they worked the hardest and kept their spirits up throughout the whole 1st day just for the 4 people that complained the most but did the least to be the only ones actually running the final... i'd be pissed.

zach constantly complaining did nothing for the team but make it worse his big *** should've been doing most of the carrying. 

paulie's energy on the show & in the interviews does not add up with the way he acted on social media. cara is a flop and a layup like i've BEEN saying.

ashley is queen and she's already rich which means there's nothing left to say.

team UK really flopped to the top. too bad more people are happy about cara and paulie loosing than team UK winning.

Besides the heat, it was a weak final, they just walked a couple miles.

Also it just gave them a couple minutes bonus, if us team solved the puzzle faster, they would have won it.

UK team didnt have a weak player, they all did their part. Rogan deserve it, just as Jordan deserve it.

US team nobody really deserve it...even Kam and Leroy didn't deserve it, if you can't swim or solve a puzzle you will always loose in a final

these shots of TJ entering on a jet ski, dune buggy, etc. are always so ******* corny

 

Paulie must be the 1st person to die on a final & still be able to solve the next puzzle. While everyone else just watches lol

lowkey hysterical how they were about to leave him and then let him take over the whole puzzle while the UK team timed out. Zach is such a toddler and isn't even doing his best. He really is treating Ninja like Sam. Warrior Empress Malkamitu, Ashley, and Leroy high key the real MVPs 

So pissed that they ended up being eliminated.

And Cara is def annoying, but Zach is such a loser when it comes to her - he always thought she was a good player, said he would run finals with her in previous seasons, but one falling out changes his opinion of her for this season? Like, I don't think his opinion is wrong - I wouldn't want to run with her either just because of how whiney she is - but that's stupid. At least Jordan was consistent in his (accurate) opinion that she was overrated. 

I know they weren't friends since the argument last season, but I don't remember him complaining about her abilities until they were actually running the final and she was shitting the bed. Most if not all of his complaints pre-finals were directed towards Ninja. 

 

Lol so the first stage was basically entirely pointless. 

They pulled that type of shit in the Rivals I final between Wes/Kenny and Bananas/Tyler where Wes/Kenny had like a 45 min lead that got cut to a few minutes heading into the 2nd stage. That being said it was impressive that the Americans were down 5 minutes (and didn't have their strongest players so to say) and caught up to the UK team. 

"Caught up" is just editing but mostly the fact there was a puzzle. They both timed out on puzzle but we have no context on the time limit they had. Either way, anything more than a 5 minute limit(most likely was something like/closer to 30mins), they were gonna "catch up" if running at same pace. We don't know if they got to puzzle 5mins after brits, less than 5 mins after, or more than 5 mins after. 

Also Tori, Kam, Leroy, Ashley were literally robbed wtf....

Felt so bad for them especially when a bunch of people that made the next stage did not deserve to be there. The four US team worked the least on day one. Paulie especially had no right to be there and was the main reason they did so terrible day 1. 

It's funny how paulie is posting about HIS kidneys shutting down but Zach is the one who was hospitalized for a week for his kidneys and Cara is posting her pics of her infected leg. Just take the L sis you earned it. Stop trying to justify it 

I know they weren't friends since the argument last season, but I don't remember him complaining about her abilities until they were actually running the final and she was shitting the bed. Most if not all of his complaints pre-finals were directed towards Ninja. 

Nah, Zach was commenting on her abilities much in the second half of the season and even said he'd prefer to run with Nany over her. 

Like I get Nany being his gf's best friend but that's a bit weird. Even Leroy noted that Nany didn't practice running much while there, Georgia last season picked Nany for the elim because "she hasn't worked out a day since they got there", etc etc. 

It was brought up in other episode threads because it was an example of Zach only caring about girls that bow down to him - the minute they're against him, he trashes them. 

 

I know they weren't friends since the argument last season, but I don't remember him complaining about her abilities until they were actually running the final and she was shitting the bed. Most if not all of his complaints pre-finals were directed towards Ninja. 

Nah, Zach was commenting on her abilities much in the second half of the season and even said he'd prefer to run with Nany over her. 

Like I get Nany being his gf's best friend but that's a bit weird. Even Leroy noted that Nany didn't practice running much while there, Georgia last season picked Nany for the elim because "she hasn't worked out a day since they got there", etc etc. 

It was brought up in other episode threads because it was an example of Zach only caring about girls that bow down to him - the minute they're against him, he trashes them. 

Now that you bring it up, I do remember the Nany bit. I see what you mean.

"Caught up" is just editing but mostly the fact their was a puzzle. They both timed out on puzzle but we have no context on the time limit they had. Either way, anything more than a 5 minute limit(most likely was something like/closer to 30mins), they were gonna "catch up" if running at same pace. We don't know if they got to puzzle 5mins after brits, less than 5 mins after, or more than 5 mins after. 

They're just talking about in the running stage - the US team got close to the UK team on the beach even though the UK team had a headstart and the US team didn't bring their best players. Even Jordan commented on it that it was so close in the running part before they got to the puzzle. 

Personally, I don't think that was that impressive considering the shackles gave the UK team a disadvantage with Dee's strides being so much shorter than the guys - that had to be more awkward. Zach on the US team would have to adjust too because the rest were shorter but it's easier to shorten a stride for one person than 3 dudes on the other team. 

It's funny how paulie is posting about HIS kidneys shutting down but Zach is the one who was hospitalized for a week for his kidneys and Cara is posting her pics of her infected leg. Just take the L sis you earned it. Stop trying to justify it 

Can't stand losers that constantly make excuses like that and she always does that. 

Kam had a shorter video about the final. Some key points:

Wouldn't have traded her team / alliance for anyone. Said the "all energies didn't mesh well" in the final but wasn't talking about anyone in her alliance (so obvs dig at Zach's negativity).

In the comments, she said she had no idea why Zach yelled at her or why he took a break when up to then neither Paulie or Leroy had. (Side note: would Paulie had died and the US fall behind so much if Zach had gone the whole time and they just rotated the girls like UK did? They could have gotten the 5 min headstart day 2 and won the money.)

Leroy was the only guy to never take a break.

Her main issue with the final: The reason her alliance on the US team wanted to keep a lot of players is because it was made to seem like that was important - like it would be an advantage to have more players in the final. 

Felt the weight was too much of disadvantage for the US team because they still were only allowed to have 4 carry at a time and the heights made it difficult for the team. That the weight vs more players wasn't well thought out pretty much. 

Knows that Paulie is getting a lot of hate right now but that she appreciated that Paulie 1) kept their alliance together and 2) didn't treat women like they were weak. Referenced that in other team seasons, men don't care about women and try to get rid of women (referencing "trim the fat") and Paulie did the opposite. 

The goal was to get as many of their alliance members from either team to the final and she's happy 3 of the 4 winners were from her alliance.  

Thinks she played a great political game and doesn't regret it. She wasn't scared to go into elims but she wanted to play smarter not harder. 

Agree with her on all points but I’m tired of hearing the extra weight argument. It was 20 pounds per player, so 40 pounds total. That’s 10 extra pounds per person carrying the gurney, and they had more people to rotate in to carry the weight while the other team didn’t, that’s why they did it. They need to stop using that excuse and just take the L. 

Kam had a shorter video about the final. Some key points:

Wouldn't have traded her team / alliance for anyone. Said the "all energies didn't mesh well" in the final but wasn't talking about anyone in her alliance (so obvs dig at Zach's negativity).

In the comments, she said she had no idea why Zach yelled at her or why he took a break when up to then neither Paulie or Leroy had. (Side note: would Paulie had died and the US fall behind so much if Zach had gone the whole time and they just rotated the girls like UK did? They could have gotten the 5 min headstart day 2 and won the money.)

Leroy was the only guy to never take a break.

Her main issue with the final: The reason her alliance on the US team wanted to keep a lot of players is because it was made to seem like that was important - like it would be an advantage to have more players in the final. 

Felt the weight was too much of disadvantage for the US team because they still were only allowed to have 4 carry at a time and the heights made it difficult for the team. That the weight vs more players wasn't well thought out pretty much. 

Knows that Paulie is getting a lot of hate right now but that she appreciated that Paulie 1) kept their alliance together and 2) didn't treat women like they were weak. Referenced that in other team seasons, men don't care about women and try to get rid of women (referencing "trim the fat") and Paulie did the opposite. 

The goal was to get as many of their alliance members from either team to the final and she's happy 3 of the 4 winners were from her alliance.  

Thinks she played a great political game and doesn't regret it. She wasn't scared to go into elims but she wanted to play smarter not harder. 

Paulie only picked tons of girls for his alliance because none of the guys would listen to him. Heck even Josh who was his good friend wouldn't side with him. I guess he did have Rogan, Joss, & CT on the Brits side, but they were playing a scared game.  They would have sold their own moms down the river not to go into an elimination.  Paulie & Cara basically picked on the weak minded people for an alliance which is exactly why the Cara's Cult name is so fitting.  So glad they got what was coming to them this final. Imagine not having Ninja & Cara in the final. Hell even Ashley & Kam. Then replace them with Wes, Bananas, & Laurel. Paulie isn't gassing out at all. Him & Leroy have an easy first day of the final probably with that dumb 5 minute lead lol. The puzzle portion of the final might have turned out the same for Leroy, but hey at least your refreshed & ready to go for having a stronger team.

Agree with her on all points but I’m tired of hearing the extra weight argument. It was 20 pounds per player, so 40 pounds total. That’s 10 extra pounds per person carrying the gurney, and they had more people to rotate in to carry the weight while the other team didn’t, that’s why they did it. They need to stop using that excuse and just take the L. 

60 total right? So 15 extra per person.  

I still agree and don't buy the extra weight being that much harder argument. Maybe the extra weight might have caused their gurney to break down, but honestly that could of been due to poor handling/balancing of it, and most likely from them consitatily dropping it as a result of Paulie not being able to handle it anymore.

Weight issue aside, it was stupid they basically had to cut their team in half. What's the point in winning challenges then if you are just going to have to get rid of people in the end?

Playing the game should not be a negative in the final.

Weight issue aside, it was stupid they basically had to cut their team in half. What's the point in winning challenges then if you are just going to have to get rid of people in the end?

Playing the game should not be a negative in the final.

 

Agree with her on all points but I’m tired of hearing the extra weight argument. It was 20 pounds per player, so 40 pounds total. That’s 10 extra pounds per person carrying the gurney, and they had more people to rotate in to carry the weight while the other team didn’t, that’s why they did it. They need to stop using that excuse and just take the L. 

60 total right? So 15 extra per person.  

I still agree and don't buy the extra weight being that much harder argument. Maybe the extra weight might have caused their gurney to break down, but honestly that could of been due to poor handling/balancing of it, and most likely from them consitatily dropping it as a result of Paulie not being able to handle it anymore.

It was 20 pounds per person. USA had 7, UK had 5. So 40 pounds extra which really isn't that much and they need to stop that excuse.

The purge was BS though I agree with that

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