Looks like Jordan and Tori got sent in by their own team and cara and Paulie bailed on their alliance.
Then that is justice that neither Cara or Paulie win and they will prob be targeted next season.
I mean, Cara has been a target since Dirty 30 and has made every final since and Paulie was a target last season and this season and still made the final. People can label them as targets all they want, but if they're not gonna have the balls to do anything then..
Where's the logic in thinking Nelson doesn't get kicked off instead of Jordan on Backstabber? You'd have to assume that Hunter still wins and the heats are the same
Why would Hunter kick off Nelson who is one of his bffs? Hunter got to pick the heats, so if the number of guys had been even, Hunter would have put Nelson in his heat with Tony then Jordan is still voted in by Hunter if we assume he'd still win.
Where's the logic in thinking Nelson doesn't get kicked off instead of Jordan on Backstabber? You'd have to assume that Hunter still wins and the heats are the same
Why would Hunter kick off Nelson who is one of his bffs? Hunter got to pick the heats, so if the number of guys had been even, Hunter would have put Nelson in his heat with Tony then Jordan is still voted in by Hunter if we assume he'd still win.
How can cara be a Target when she hasn't been in an elimination in forever
She was in an elimination with Marie. It wasn't that long ago. It's hard for those targeting her to get to her when she's aligned with the people that win or wins herself
How can cara be a Target when she hasn't been in an elimination in forever
They voted her straight to into redemption on D30 the first chance they got, she got grenades thrown at her on Vendettas, and saw eliminations on FR. They wanted her gone like crazy on FR and only being with Marie kept her from being voted in kept her around as long as it did.
There wasn't much chance to throw her in on WOTW since she/Theo or Paulie/Ninja won so much - the two best chances were Kyle and Amanda calling her out but they either were too scared (Kyle of Theo imo) or let their partner pick (Josh had beef with Ash recently). And it sounds like there was little chance for her on BH because her alliance was the biggest - how she got Zach and even Leroy to vote with her is going to be interesting.
Especially since she turned on a few of her teammates
Did she really turn on anyone that didn't already turn on her? I'd love to blame Cara for her own karma there, but Pink implied that Tori was snaked Cara at some point, so it's possible that Tori/Jordan being voted it was a reaction to whatever Tori (or Jordan) did. Though they were always going to have to turn on some teammates at some point just from a numbers perspective.
Say what you will about Cara being a trash person (which is true) but I don't think she's ever turned on someone she's aligned or close with, outside of Zach last season but only after his negative comments about her.
I'm much more interested to see the breakdown of the UK team. I'm sad Theo was a casualty of other people being threatened by him, but I bet it will be a fun dramatic mess to watch.
Yeah, it was stupid because Kyle was just using her, but she was actually aligned and deluded herself that what she had with Kyle was serious. Leroy was rightfully mad because they'd known each other longer but even he got over it because he said they didn't have an official alliance like that. Would anyone be surprise Cara would chose Paulie over CT despite her longer history with the other? Or if Jenna picked Zach over Kailah or any other couple pick their SO instead of a friend. Leroy would pick Kam over Cara too.
There are a **** ton of things to take issue about with Cara but her general loyalty to her those she's aligned is not really one of them imo.
Oh y'all still believing CT beat Nelson? Hilarious. Also Nelson would **** Jordan up anything physical or endurance wise. Y'all sleep on Nelson for a reason I don't know.
Oh y'all still believing CT beat Nelson? Hilarious. Also Nelson would **** Jordan up anything physical or endurance wise. Y'all sleep on Nelson for a reason I don't know.
ok i didnt want to be the one to say it but i would take nelson over any challlenger in anything physical or having to do with endurance
Jordan won in all formats. Individuals (Dirty 30), Pairs (Exes 2), & Teams (Bloody Hell)
correct but he wouldn’t have won dirty 30 if not for the Nelson incident. Luck was on his side there.
How so? Do you think Nelson really has the endurance to beat Jordan. Lol I don't think so, let alone solve any type of puzzle
what? That’s not what I was saying at all. Nelson DQing made it so 2 came back from redemption instead of 1. CT beat Jordan in that redemption, he would’ve been gone if Nelson didn’t DQ. That’s all I was saying.
Why are we thinking Nelson would win a final against CT or Derrick. Didn't CT beat him on Invasion?
no one said anything about Nelson in the final. Nelson DQing opened up a second spot for Jordan that he otherwise wouldn’t have had. If that wouldn’t have happened, Jordan loses XXX, and that’s facts.
Yes he deserves credit but I was simply pointing out that incident directly allowed him to continue and without it he would’ve lost.
Jordan won in all formats. Individuals (Dirty 30), Pairs (Exes 2), & Teams (Bloody Hell)
correct but he wouldn’t have won dirty 30 if not for the Nelson incident. Luck was on his side there.
How so? Do you think Nelson really has the endurance to beat Jordan. Lol I don't think so, let alone solve any type of puzzle
Nelson wouldnt be able to add 2 + 2
Jordan >>> Nelson
Deeper isnt saying Nelson is better than Jordan, only that had Nelson not DQed, then only one guy would be brought back from Redemption and that would've been CT.
lol thank you IF. Don’t know where all those crazy assumptions came from based on what I said
love bear not having control of the politics of team U.K.
Has Bear ever had control of politics?
so turning on jordan cost them the win since jordon switched teams after elimination... ironic
I’m ready for this Cara and Paulie vs Tori and Jordan edit we’re gonna get
so did CT work with Joss and Rogan?
They all had such an easy political game on WOTW that this was bound to happen and as result they likely would unravel.
Then that is justice that neither Cara or Paulie win and they will prob be targeted next season.
I love going to the lock thread and seeing Dee and Rogan's faces under the "WINNERS" moniker. I love being on the winning team!
I mean, Cara has been a target since Dirty 30 and has made every final since and Paulie was a target last season and this season and still made the final. People can label them as targets all they want, but if they're not gonna have the balls to do anything then..
Why would Hunter kick off Nelson who is one of his bffs? Hunter got to pick the heats, so if the number of guys had been even, Hunter would have put Nelson in his heat with Tony then Jordan is still voted in by Hunter if we assume he'd still win.
How can cara be a Target when she hasn't been in an elimination in forever
Makes no sense to assume he'd still win
She was in an elimination with Marie. It wasn't that long ago. It's hard for those targeting her to get to her when she's aligned with the people that win or wins herself
They voted her straight to into redemption on D30 the first chance they got, she got grenades thrown at her on Vendettas, and saw eliminations on FR. They wanted her gone like crazy on FR and only being with Marie kept her from being voted in kept her around as long as it did.
There wasn't much chance to throw her in on WOTW since she/Theo or Paulie/Ninja won so much - the two best chances were Kyle and Amanda calling her out but they either were too scared (Kyle of Theo imo) or let their partner pick (Josh had beef with Ash recently). And it sounds like there was little chance for her on BH because her alliance was the biggest - how she got Zach and even Leroy to vote with her is going to be interesting.
True but if she were really a target she would have been in eliminations one way or another
Especially since she turned on a few of her teammates
Did she really turn on anyone that didn't already turn on her? I'd love to blame Cara for her own karma there, but Pink implied that Tori was snaked Cara at some point, so it's possible that Tori/Jordan being voted it was a reaction to whatever Tori (or Jordan) did. Though they were always going to have to turn on some teammates at some point just from a numbers perspective.
Say what you will about Cara being a trash person (which is true) but I don't think she's ever turned on someone she's aligned or close with, outside of Zach last season but only after his negative comments about her.
wotw he absolutely was the head of the UK alliance. Wes only talked about it every episode and wanting to get him out and take down the UK alliance.
Cara literally chose **** over leroy
I'm much more interested to see the breakdown of the UK team. I'm sad Theo was a casualty of other people being threatened by him, but I bet it will be a fun dramatic mess to watch.
Yeah, it was stupid because Kyle was just using her, but she was actually aligned and deluded herself that what she had with Kyle was serious. Leroy was rightfully mad because they'd known each other longer but even he got over it because he said they didn't have an official alliance like that. Would anyone be surprise Cara would chose Paulie over CT despite her longer history with the other? Or if Jenna picked Zach over Kailah or any other couple pick their SO instead of a friend. Leroy would pick Kam over Cara too.
There are a **** ton of things to take issue about with Cara but her general loyalty to her those she's aligned is not really one of them imo.
Old Cara had loyalty. new Cara has paulie. Big difference between the two. She is a completely different person
You can't have control without power. Bear never had power.
Pauly trying to make a name for himself too so he likely would screw over anyone but Cara.
Oh y'all still believing CT beat Nelson? Hilarious. Also Nelson would **** Jordan up anything physical or endurance wise. Y'all sleep on Nelson for a reason I don't know.
ok i didnt want to be the one to say it but i would take nelson over any challlenger in anything physical or having to do with endurance
what? That’s not what I was saying at all. Nelson DQing made it so 2 came back from redemption instead of 1. CT beat Jordan in that redemption, he would’ve been gone if Nelson didn’t DQ. That’s all I was saying.
no one said anything about Nelson in the final. Nelson DQing opened up a second spot for Jordan that he otherwise wouldn’t have had. If that wouldn’t have happened, Jordan loses XXX, and that’s facts.
Yes he deserves credit but I was simply pointing out that incident directly allowed him to continue and without it he would’ve lost.
lol thank you IF. Don’t know where all those crazy assumptions came from based on what I said
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