The Challenge: New Threats and Vets (Season 41) - Eliminations spoilers discussions

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probably will be one more single mens elimination then i'd imagine something has to switch up, unless they wanna keep this going forever

agreed. sindysus posted this potential schedule and it's def something i could see happening, after the next males day it'll prob be doubles until the finale

ep 1 - pairs form

ep 2 - rogan

ep 3 - blue

ep 4 - cara (quit), nia

ep 5 - jonna joins, bananas out 

ep 6 - ben

ep 7 - leka

ep 8 - izzy

ep 9 - male out 

ep 10 - 24 to 22

ep 11 - 22 to 20

ep 12 - 20 to 18

ep 13 - 18 to 16

ep 14 - 16 to 14

ep 15 - 14 to 12

ep 16 - 12 to 10

ep 17 - 10 to 8

ep 18/19 - final

 

that schedule also adds up bc ep 10 is always around the time they do their mid season shakeup & there will have been even men and women "rogue agents"

rogans boot - woman rogue

nias boot - man rogue

bens boot - woman rogue

izzy's boot - man rogue

after fridays boot everything will be even & time for doubles 

Idk why yall engage with that man who clearly sees what someone posts then immediately becomes a contrarian. Like I get difference in opinion but that devil's advocate post about Michaela (who wasn't even out) just proved he's a total troll Smile

Can we get some FEMALE matchups please Smile

 

 

If we could just get rid of all the rookies now that would be great.  Dee can stay.  

Rookies>Vets this season. Time for you to move on. The new era is IN!

The rookies are garbage and you know it.  Most won't even be back. 

It's truly idiotic to just think "if I don't know them they're garbage" and that is clearly your ideology. 

MAD (michaela, america and dee) really got yall******* mad! Smile

MAD (michaela, ashley and dee) really got yall******* mad!

 

 

If we could just get rid of all the rookies now that would be great.  Dee can stay.  

Rookies>Vets this season. Time for you to move on. The new era is IN!

The rookies are garbage and you know it.  Most won't even be back. 

I've been the most critical of their rookies casting in recent years, but overall they did well on this. Vet casting is píșs poor too which makes the rookie casting seem even better.

MAD (michaela, america and dee) really got yall******* mad!

one of these aren't like the other and you KNOW who it is

 

I either want a Theo and ashley win

or Theo and a rookie gal.

Theo absolutely. No way on Ashley.  

kvm got good taste*******

off topic but has anyone else noticed that Amber B has been quiet on social media and not promoting tonight's episode of All Stars? I think she might be in sequester for amazing race right now

off topic but has anyone else noticed that Amber B has been quiet on social media and not promoting tonight's episode of All Stars? I think she might be in sequester for amazing race right now

I doubt it. She's not really a priority to CBS. She'd only get on unless everyone they actually wanted declined 

off topic but has anyone else noticed that Amber B has been quiet on social media and not promoting tonight's episode of All Stars? I think she might be in sequester for amazing race right now

she hasn't really promoted AS 5 at all

I know Olivia was scared lmaoooo *aneesa laughing gif* 

 

off topic but has anyone else noticed that Amber B has been quiet on social media and not promoting tonight's episode of All Stars? I think she might be in sequester for amazing race right now

I doubt it. She's not really a priority to CBS. She'd only get on unless everyone they actually wanted declined 

there are literally 100 people they would call before Amber b for a bb only alumni and friends season

I know Olivia was scared lmaoooo *aneesa laughing gif* 

Theo & Izzy would be a hot couple but I'll take Izzy and Rogan... hope they show their hookup graphically

America being compared to Queen Kailah?? Ooo I knew I picked the right one. Her, Ashley, Jonna, Dee and Michaela making a deep run is making this season for me

kailah would overhear america being a loudmouth and throw her luggage off the balcony. those two don't seem alike at all to me. but i can see america being messy in a similar way regarding being an outcast type of person on her rookie season

I don't think America and Kailah was meant to be a 1:1 comparison.

Maybe she cheated on Cory and is peeing in the bed. 

Theo's Tarantulas Unite!

Absolutely not. Imma need you to pick a better name.

I don't think America and Kailah was meant to be a 1:1 comparison.

Yeah I don't expect them to be that alike but I can see the similarities from what PR said 

I love how Cory called the rookies boring but night one Izzy was destroying someone's 4 year relationship, Justin took out Rogan, and Gabe sent John into retirement.

I love how Cory called the rookies boring but night one Izzy was destroying someone's 4 year relationship, Justin took out Rogan, and Gabe sent John into retirement.

Okay so I just looked this up

Johnny Bananas first season was The Duel, 2006. Cory's first season was Bloodlines, 2015

She length between Bananas and Cory debuting on the challenge is 9 years. These season 41 rookies are obviously in 2025, which is 10 years away from 2015.

Do in terms of Challenge longevity, Cory is officially closer to Bananas on the Challenge timeline than he is to any rookie that debuts now or later.

So at this point, it would technically be wiser for Cory to align with old vets like bananas and be anti rookie, because these rookies are now at the exact age that he was when he premiered with the goal of 'getting rid of the washed up vets.' (In terms of 'Challenge age,' not real age, as the rookies they case nowadays are much older)

Despite Cory absolutely failing at beating any of the old established vets, he is now one of them. So if you can't beat them, might as well join them.

Interesting how time passes. The length between the 'old washed up veterans' and Lavendar Ladies and TYB on the Challenge timeline, is now roughly the same period of time between LL/TYB versus the rookies debuting now. Even though it doesn't really feel that way, the Bloodlines-Invasions era generation ARE now the washed up vets.

This obviously excludes some vets like CT and Aneesa who debuted far before people like Camila, Cara Maria, Bananas, and Wes

And now that Cory's 'challenge age' is the same 'challenge' age that Bananas was when Cory premiered, and because I'm still mad at him for voting in Amanda let's compare Bananas and Cory first 10 flagship seasons.

Bananas: loss - FINAL - loss - WON - WON - loss - WON - WON - FINAL - WON, elimination record at the time: 7-4

Cory: FINAL - loss - FINAL - loss - loss - loss - FINAL - FINAL - loss - loss, elimination record: 11-5 (11-6 if you count redemption)

So while Cory's elim record is more impressive and has built a name for himself, yeah it's fair to say that he fell short in terms of wanting to 'take over' as the new generation.

edit: TO CORY'S credit, the Challenge has gotten a lot harder leading into the 2010's and 2020's, as they've made challenges, finals harder and they've started to cast athletes/professionals/people already experienced in reality tv, rather than back in bananas day where they just casted basically just college frat bros from the real world. But still, the stats fall short

adding onto null's fun facts, Ashley will appear on more episodes this season than she did on 4 of her last 5 seasons:

AS5 - 4 eps

SLA - 14 eps 

DA - 3 episodes

TM - 4 episodes

and given that next ep will be a guys day, Jonna is guaranteed to at least tie for the most episodes she's been on in her last 4 seasons;

AS5 - 2 eps

40 - 6 eps

USA2 - 2 eps

WC - 6 eps

if she survives the next two rounds, she will surpass these seasons and appear in at least 7 episodes, making it her longest appearance since AS3.

additionally, Jonna's episode count for her last four seasons combined is 16. this is less than one full flagship season LMAO

additionally, Jonna's episode count for her last four seasons combined is 16. this is less than one full flagship season LMAO

If Jonna, Ashley, and Michaela make it further, it'll be a breath of fresh air for them to be more of the centerpieces for storylines. Ashley's coming off a hiatus, end even before the hiatus she was in a flop era. None of those three has has much time on the flagship in years.

My Prediction is that the 'main characters' of the season will be

Nany, Aneesa, Olivia, Ashley, Michaela, Leroy, Derek, Theo, CT. 

In fact, I'd say that the final will probably be a combination of that group with maybe 1 or 2 underdogs/rookies mixed in there instead as the outliers. Unless the second half of the game has a format that gives rookies a numbers advantage.

I can't imagine any of the male vets left growing close with Turbo. If I had to guess he's gonna be getting targeted soon since he's a clear social outlier

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