The Challenge: Invasion (Spoilers Discussion)

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Vince can rot in a sewer for eternity. Can't stress enough how Bloodlines/Rivals 3 should've never happened.

Devin is always welcome but he would've left first instead of Bruno (which wouldn't have been a bad thing).

Vince can rot in a sewer for eternity. Can't stress enough how Bloodlines/Rivals 3 should've never happened.Devin is always welcome but he would've left first instead of Bruno (which wouldn't have been a bad thing).

Yes. Because you predicted that Bruno was going to go home first. Ha

You don't know what Bruno lost in so to say Devin would've went home first is bogus.

Not  surprising. 

Yves

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Vince can rot in a sewer for eternity. Can't stress enough how Bloodlines/Rivals 3 should've never happened.Devin is always welcome but he would've left first instead of Bruno (which wouldn't have been a bad thing).

Yes. Because you predicted that Bruno was going to go home first. HaYou don't know what Bruno lost in so to say Devin would've went home first is bogus.Not  surprising. Yves

Oh.

did Theo brought his bad *** bunny with him? **** i'll vote him in only for that reason alone lol

did Theo brought his bad *** bunny with him? **** i'll vote him in only for that reason alone lol

Bananas  brought a *****. A stuffed bunny isn't a big deal

Oh it's prolly cause I can't stop bringing him up. But I am lowering it by trashing Marie so it's all good

Two things...

1.  Didn't most people say Bruno would be out first (or at least early)?

2.  LOL @ Marie going home first.  Never bought into the hype but, on paper, she looked like one of the stronger girls before the champs arrive.   If Jenna took her out then Jenna will get some kudos, if Nicole did then Nicole started thing off with a bang...if it was someone else hopefully that means one of these other girls are legit.

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i am heartbroken about marie. just someone we havent seen in a long time and wish she was staying longer. **** the regs.

Two things...1.  Didn't most people say Bruno would be out first (or at least early)?2.  LOL @ Marie going home first.  Never bought into the hype but, on paper, she looked like one of the stronger girls before the champs arrive.   If Jenna took her out then Jenna will get some kudos, if Nicole did then Nicole started thing off with a bang...if it was someone else hopefully that means one of these other girls are legit.

1. Actually no, in the prediction thread most people said he would be the rookie to either go the furthest, go home because of fighting or be in the most elimination rounds. Nobody had him first or early as far as i have seen it. Only once he got eliminated, there were a handful people claiming they weren't surprised ...

2. Marie the same thing lol.

i am heartbroken about marie. just someone we havent seen in a long time and wish she was staying longer. **** the regs.

It ruined me

kvm1977 wrote:

Two things...1.  Didn't most people say Bruno would be out first (or at least early)?2.  LOL @ Marie going home first.  Never bought into the hype but, on paper, she looked like one of the stronger girls before the champs arrive.   If Jenna took her out then Jenna will get some kudos, if Nicole did then Nicole started thing off with a bang...if it was someone else hopefully that means one of these other girls are legit.

1. Actually no, in the prediction thread most people said he would be the rookie to either go the furthest, go home because of fighting or be in the most elimination rounds. Nobody had him first or early as far as i have seen it. Only once he got eliminated, there were a handful people claiming they weren't surprised ...2. Marie the same thing lol.

I'll have to scan that.  I'm 99.9999% sure I said from the second I saw a picture of him that he would be awful.  I didn't even know about the accident or the fact he's ridiculously annoying at that point.  Honest to God, why did people think he'd do well given the fact he was always going to rub people the wrong way.  Honestly asking...I must be missing something.

Whatever, he's gone--I won't have to listen to him so I'll just take that as a win.

An Ashley M, LaToya, Kailah alliance >>

Does anyone know when the next elimination is?

I'll have to scan that.  I'm 99.9999% sure I said from the second I saw a picture of him that he would be awful.  I didn't even know about the accident or the fact he's ridiculously annoying at that point.  Honest to God, why did people think he'd do well given the fact he was always going to rub people the wrong way.  Honestly asking...I must be missing something.Whatever, he's gone--I won't have to listen to him so I'll just take that as a win.

He's almost as annoying as your posts on this forum.

If Marie and Averey are not given an automatic plane ticket to S30 I swear to god...

GDInstall wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:Two things...1.  Didn't most people say Bruno would be out first (or at least early)?2.  LOL @ Marie going home first.  Never bought into the hype but, on paper, she looked like one of the stronger girls before the champs arrive.   If Jenna took her out then Jenna will get some kudos, if Nicole did then Nicole started thing off with a bang...if it was someone else hopefully that means one of these other girls are legit.

1. Actually no, in the prediction thread most people said he would be the rookie to either go the furthest, go home because of fighting or be in the most elimination rounds. Nobody had him first or early as far as i have seen it. Only once he got eliminated, there were a handful people claiming they weren't surprised ...2. Marie the same thing lol.

I'll have to scan that.  I'm 99.9999% sure I said from the second I saw a picture of him that he would be awful.  I didn't even know about the accident or the fact he's ridiculously annoying at that point.  Honest to God, why did people think he'd do well given the fact he was always going to rub people the wrong way.  Honestly asking...I must be missing something.Whatever, he's gone--I won't have to listen to him so I'll just take that as a win.

I answered your questions, majority thought or had relatively good expectations about him and I do think, if you watch real world seasons (or AYTO seasons for that matter) the perspective or expectations of how people will perform (whether it's drama, competition, strategy or whatnot) with knowing their background are completely different than just by looking at pictures.  And even that, theory and when it matters most of the times differ because the daily challenges/elimination rounds are rarely pure about atletism or puzzle solving skills   There was no clear evidence where Bruno/Marie would land, but for most people, there were always people expected to be worse than them, so them going home first is surprising. I mean you already thought and said he got bigger when you saw a newer picture of him about four weeks ago while comparing him to the others. And if you thought Bruno would rub people the wrong way, pretty much every rookie/non winner guy here on this cast has a history of rubbing a lot of people the wrong way. 

To the victor goes the spoils.   

kvm1977 wrote:

I'll have to scan that.  I'm 99.9999% sure I said from the second I saw a picture of him that he would be awful.  I didn't even know about the accident or the fact he's ridiculously annoying at that point.  Honest to God, why did people think he'd do well given the fact he was always going to rub people the wrong way.  Honestly asking...I must be missing something.Whatever, he's gone--I won't have to listen to him so I'll just take that as a win.

He's almost as annoying as your posts on this forum.

Oh no--you're annoyed by me...couldn't care less

kvm1977 wrote:

GDInstall wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:Two things...1.  Didn't most people say Bruno would be out first (or at least early)?2.  LOL @ Marie going home first.  Never bought into the hype but, on paper, she looked like one of the stronger girls before the champs arrive.   If Jenna took her out then Jenna will get some kudos, if Nicole did then Nicole started thing off with a bang...if it was someone else hopefully that means one of these other girls are legit.

1. Actually no, in the prediction thread most people said he would be the rookie to either go the furthest, go home because of fighting or be in the most elimination rounds. Nobody had him first or early as far as i have seen it. Only once he got eliminated, there were a handful people claiming they weren't surprised ...2. Marie the same thing lol.

I'll have to scan that.  I'm 99.9999% sure I said from the second I saw a picture of him that he would be awful.  I didn't even know about the accident or the fact he's ridiculously annoying at that point.  Honest to God, why did people think he'd do well given the fact he was always going to rub people the wrong way.  Honestly asking...I must be missing something.Whatever, he's gone--I won't have to listen to him so I'll just take that as a win.

I answered your questions, majority thought or had relatively good expectations about him and I do think, if you watch real world seasons (or AYTO seasons for that matter) the perspective or expectations of how people will perform (whether it's drama, competition, strategy or whatnot) with knowing their background are completely different than just by looking at pictures.  And even that, theory and when it matters most of the times differ because the daily challenges/elimination rounds are rarely pure about atletism or puzzle solving skills   There was no clear evidence he would be going out first,  I mean you already thought and said he got bigger when you saw a newer picture of him about four weeks ago while comparing him to the others. And if you thought Bruno would rub people the wrong way, pretty much every rookie guy here on this cast has a history of rubbing a lot of people the wrong way. To the victor goes the spoils.   

I disagree--those that watch the seasons tend to put their feelings about the person into it.  Bruno did put on mass and I gave him kudos to that but if he shows even a shred of athleticism this season or in the future I'll admit I'm wrong.  Pictures tell a thousand words--Bruno's not an athlete.  Hunter would be the guy I haven't seen prior I expect to do well unless his social game ***** him.  I finally looked up taht Anthony kid--I think he'll need a social game.  When I'm wrong I own it.  Hopefully since everyone seeems to love this Bruno character he does well and gets sent in because of it because I don't want to deal with people that aren't there to compete.  I would have said (in terms of potenital from solely a competitive standpoint)....Hunter/Dylan/Theo/Anthony/Bruno....with Theo & Dylan and Anthony & Bruno interchangeable.  Theo went home early so we'll see what happened with the eliminations.

Speaking of that...I wonder if Marie pulled a Diem and just took her app check

Are there only 3 new girls?  Anika, Nicole & Kaliah?

Idk why people expected Bruno to do good, I'm surprised his ***** *** didn't quit. Like when he heard Sylvia might be on rivals 3.

he has always been a little *****,, he was the entire time on rw, he was on twitter when he cried after not getting on bloodlines and saying he couldn't be on the challenge because it's about phoniness and he's above that. Bruno sucks 

Are there only 3 new girls?  Anika, Nicole & Kaliah?

I still think Sylvia is very likely on this.

GDInstall wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:

GDInstall wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:Two things...1.  Didn't most people say Bruno would be out first (or at least early)?2.  LOL @ Marie going home first.  Never bought into the hype but, on paper, she looked like one of the stronger girls before the champs arrive.   If Jenna took her out then Jenna will get some kudos, if Nicole did then Nicole started thing off with a bang...if it was someone else hopefully that means one of these other girls are legit.

1. Actually no, in the prediction thread most people said he would be the rookie to either go the furthest, go home because of fighting or be in the most elimination rounds. Nobody had him first or early as far as i have seen it. Only once he got eliminated, there were a handful people claiming they weren't surprised ...2. Marie the same thing lol.

I'll have to scan that.  I'm 99.9999% sure I said from the second I saw a picture of him that he would be awful.  I didn't even know about the accident or the fact he's ridiculously annoying at that point.  Honest to God, why did people think he'd do well given the fact he was always going to rub people the wrong way.  Honestly asking...I must be missing something.Whatever, he's gone--I won't have to listen to him so I'll just take that as a win.

I answered your questions, majority thought or had relatively good expectations about him and I do think, if you watch real world seasons (or AYTO seasons for that matter) the perspective or expectations of how people will perform (whether it's drama, competition, strategy or whatnot) with knowing their background are completely different than just by looking at pictures.  And even that, theory and when it matters most of the times differ because the daily challenges/elimination rounds are rarely pure about atletism or puzzle solving skills   There was no clear evidence he would be going out first,  I mean you already thought and said he got bigger when you saw a newer picture of him about four weeks ago while comparing him to the others. And if you thought Bruno would rub people the wrong way, pretty much every rookie guy here on this cast has a history of rubbing a lot of people the wrong way. To the victor goes the spoils.   

I disagree--those that watch the seasons tend to put their feelings about the person into it.  Bruno did put on mass and I gave him kudos to that but if he shows even a shred of athleticism this season or in the future I'll admit I'm wrong.  Pictures tell a thousand words--Bruno's not an athlete.  Hunter would be the guy I haven't seen prior I expect to do well unless his social game ***** him.  I finally looked up taht Anthony kid--I think he'll need a social game.  When I'm wrong I own it.  Hopefully since everyone seeems to love this Bruno character he does well and gets sent in because of it because I don't want to deal with people that aren't there to compete.  I would have said (in terms of potenital from solely a competitive standpoint)....Hunter/Dylan/Theo/Anthony/Bruno....with Theo & Dylan and Anthony & Bruno interchangeable.  Theo went home early so we'll see what happened with the eliminations.Speaking of that...I wonder if Marie pulled a Diem and just took her app check

There lies the problem, both ways have their pros and cons. And we are dangerously drifting into a discussing in circles teritory. I just think by only looking at pictures, you have no clue about stamina/endurance, sport background, political game. I mean look at Wes, nobody would honestly believe that he is still one of the best swimmer on the challenge eventhough he looks about half the size of Bananas now. Bananas even said that nobody can beat Wes in swimming or Zach in Free Agents, he looked atletic, yet endurance-wise he had major flaws. So bigger build doesn't mean better athlete. About Anthony, ff you watch his seasons, Anthony has a pretttttty good social game, really well liked on his season and pretty smart too (he still was the one who figured out match ups), so their comes the flaw of only watching snaps of him. You never know.

As sad as I am that Theo, another one that i was rooting for, left, yet he proofs me that a lot can happen on a challenge...

 

Daddy DAF
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Pink do you really think it was marie eliminated and not sylvia? Sad

kvm1977 wrote:

Are there only 3 new girls?  Anika, Nicole & Kaliah?

I still think Sylvia is very likely on this.

Yes! PR with the safe of the day! S

Speaking of it, is there any possible way for you to give like % of how likely you think Zach/Derrick/Sylvia are on?

Pink do you really think it was marie eliminated and not sylvia? Sad

Marie wouldnt have been added to the eliminated list if I didnt had solid proof she was out.

And I was specifically told she was out first with bruno the same day.

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Diamonds are Forever wrote:

Pink do you really think it was marie eliminated and not sylvia? Sad

Marie wouldnt have been added to the eliminated list if I didnt had solid proof she was out.And I was specifically told she was out first with bruno the same day.

you breaking my heart

kvm1977 wrote:

GDInstall wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:
GDInstall wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:Two things...1.  Didn't most people say Bruno would be out first (or at least early)?2.  LOL @ Marie going home first.  Never bought into the hype but, on paper, she looked like one of the stronger girls before the champs arrive.   If Jenna took her out then Jenna will get some kudos, if Nicole did then Nicole started thing off with a bang...if it was someone else hopefully that means one of these other girls are legit.

1. Actually no, in the prediction thread most people said he would be the rookie to either go the furthest, go home because of fighting or be in the most elimination rounds. Nobody had him first or early as far as i have seen it. Only once he got eliminated, there were a handful people claiming they weren't surprised ...2. Marie the same thing lol.

I'll have to scan that.  I'm 99.9999% sure I said from the second I saw a picture of him that he would be awful.  I didn't even know about the accident or the fact he's ridiculously annoying at that point.  Honest to God, why did people think he'd do well given the fact he was always going to rub people the wrong way.  Honestly asking...I must be missing something.Whatever, he's gone--I won't have to listen to him so I'll just take that as a win.

I answered your questions, majority thought or had relatively good expectations about him and I do think, if you watch real world seasons (or AYTO seasons for that matter) the perspective or expectations of how people will perform (whether it's drama, competition, strategy or whatnot) with knowing their background are completely different than just by looking at pictures.  And even that, theory and when it matters most of the times differ because the daily challenges/elimination rounds are rarely pure about atletism or puzzle solving skills   There was no clear evidence he would be going out first,  I mean you already thought and said he got bigger when you saw a newer picture of him about four weeks ago while comparing him to the others. And if you thought Bruno would rub people the wrong way, pretty much every rookie guy here on this cast has a history of rubbing a lot of people the wrong way. To the victor goes the spoils.   

I disagree--those that watch the seasons tend to put their feelings about the person into it.  Bruno did put on mass and I gave him kudos to that but if he shows even a shred of athleticism this season or in the future I'll admit I'm wrong.  Pictures tell a thousand words--Bruno's not an athlete.  Hunter would be the guy I haven't seen prior I expect to do well unless his social game ***** him.  I finally looked up taht Anthony kid--I think he'll need a social game.  When I'm wrong I own it.  Hopefully since everyone seeems to love this Bruno character he does well and gets sent in because of it because I don't want to deal with people that aren't there to compete.  I would have said (in terms of potenital from solely a competitive standpoint)....Hunter/Dylan/Theo/Anthony/Bruno....with Theo & Dylan and Anthony & Bruno interchangeable.  Theo went home early so we'll see what happened with the eliminations.Speaking of that...I wonder if Marie pulled a Diem and just took her app check

There lies the problem, both ways have their pros and cons. And we are dangerously drifting into a discussing in circles teritory. I just think by only looking at pictures, you have no clue about stamina/endurance, sport background, political game. I mean look at Wes, nobody would honestly believe that he is still one of the best swimmer on the challenge eventhough he looks about half the size of Bananas now. Bananas even said that nobody can beat Wes in swimming or Zach in Free Agents, he looked atletic, yet endurance-wise he had major flaws. So bigger build doesn't mean better athlete. About Anthony, ff you watch his seasons, Anthony has a pretttttty good social game, really well liked on his season and pretty smart too (he still was the one who figured out match ups), so their comes the flaw of only watching snaps of him. You never know.As sad as I am that Theo, another one that i was rooting for, left, yet he proofs me that a lot can happen on a challenge... 

But that is why I state "only from a competition standpoint"...politics is completely separate.  Look at Wes by his Austin days--there wouldn't be anything shocking about him being a great swimmer.  He's older now and no longer puts him the same kind of work.  But looking at him now also would accurately tell you he isn't winning too many physical events.  It isn't just about size either.  Athletes typically have a different build...see CT from the Inferno vs Ty from Cutthroat.  It isn't all about mass.  But, yeah, I'm done with the discussion because we're simply not on the same page.

Yassssss if Queen Sylvia is on.

GDInstall wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:

GDInstall wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:
GDInstall wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:Two things...1.  Didn't most people say Bruno would be out first (or at least early)?2.  LOL @ Marie going home first.  Never bought into the hype but, on paper, she looked like one of the stronger girls before the champs arrive.   If Jenna took her out then Jenna will get some kudos, if Nicole did then Nicole started thing off with a bang...if it was someone else hopefully that means one of these other girls are legit.

1. Actually no, in the prediction thread most people said he would be the rookie to either go the furthest, go home because of fighting or be in the most elimination rounds. Nobody had him first or early as far as i have seen it. Only once he got eliminated, there were a handful people claiming they weren't surprised ...2. Marie the same thing lol.

I'll have to scan that.  I'm 99.9999% sure I said from the second I saw a picture of him that he would be awful.  I didn't even know about the accident or the fact he's ridiculously annoying at that point.  Honest to God, why did people think he'd do well given the fact he was always going to rub people the wrong way.  Honestly asking...I must be missing something.Whatever, he's gone--I won't have to listen to him so I'll just take that as a win.

I answered your questions, majority thought or had relatively good expectations about him and I do think, if you watch real world seasons (or AYTO seasons for that matter) the perspective or expectations of how people will perform (whether it's drama, competition, strategy or whatnot) with knowing their background are completely different than just by looking at pictures.  And even that, theory and when it matters most of the times differ because the daily challenges/elimination rounds are rarely pure about atletism or puzzle solving skills   There was no clear evidence he would be going out first,  I mean you already thought and said he got bigger when you saw a newer picture of him about four weeks ago while comparing him to the others. And if you thought Bruno would rub people the wrong way, pretty much every rookie guy here on this cast has a history of rubbing a lot of people the wrong way. To the victor goes the spoils.   

I disagree--those that watch the seasons tend to put their feelings about the person into it.  Bruno did put on mass and I gave him kudos to that but if he shows even a shred of athleticism this season or in the future I'll admit I'm wrong.  Pictures tell a thousand words--Bruno's not an athlete.  Hunter would be the guy I haven't seen prior I expect to do well unless his social game ***** him.  I finally looked up taht Anthony kid--I think he'll need a social game.  When I'm wrong I own it.  Hopefully since everyone seeems to love this Bruno character he does well and gets sent in because of it because I don't want to deal with people that aren't there to compete.  I would have said (in terms of potenital from solely a competitive standpoint)....Hunter/Dylan/Theo/Anthony/Bruno....with Theo & Dylan and Anthony & Bruno interchangeable.  Theo went home early so we'll see what happened with the eliminations.Speaking of that...I wonder if Marie pulled a Diem and just took her app check

There lies the problem, both ways have their pros and cons. And we are dangerously drifting into a discussing in circles teritory. I just think by only looking at pictures, you have no clue about stamina/endurance, sport background, political game. I mean look at Wes, nobody would honestly believe that he is still one of the best swimmer on the challenge eventhough he looks about half the size of Bananas now. Bananas even said that nobody can beat Wes in swimming or Zach in Free Agents, he looked atletic, yet endurance-wise he had major flaws. So bigger build doesn't mean better athlete. About Anthony, ff you watch his seasons, Anthony has a pretttttty good social game, really well liked on his season and pretty smart too (he still was the one who figured out match ups), so their comes the flaw of only watching snaps of him. You never know.As sad as I am that Theo, another one that i was rooting for, left, yet he proofs me that a lot can happen on a challenge... 

But that is why I state "only from a competition standpoint"...politics is completely separate.  Look at Wes by his Austin days--there wouldn't be anything shocking about him being a great swimmer.  He's older now and no longer puts him the same kind of work.  But looking at him now also would accurately tell you he isn't winning too many physical events.  It isn't just about size either.  Athletes typically have a different build...see CT from the Inferno vs Ty from Cutthroat.  It isn't all about mass.  But, yeah, I'm done with the discussion because we're simply not on the same page.

Competition includes politics in an enviroment like the Challenge. It just seems with this particular matter we agree to disagree.

kvm1977 wrote:

GDInstall wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:
GDInstall wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:
GDInstall wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:Two things...1.  Didn't most people say Bruno would be out first (or at least early)?2.  LOL @ Marie going home first.  Never bought into the hype but, on paper, she looked like one of the stronger girls before the champs arrive.   If Jenna took her out then Jenna will get some kudos, if Nicole did then Nicole started thing off with a bang...if it was someone else hopefully that means one of these other girls are legit.

1. Actually no, in the prediction thread most people said he would be the rookie to either go the furthest, go home because of fighting or be in the most elimination rounds. Nobody had him first or early as far as i have seen it. Only once he got eliminated, there were a handful people claiming they weren't surprised ...2. Marie the same thing lol.

I'll have to scan that.  I'm 99.9999% sure I said from the second I saw a picture of him that he would be awful.  I didn't even know about the accident or the fact he's ridiculously annoying at that point.  Honest to God, why did people think he'd do well given the fact he was always going to rub people the wrong way.  Honestly asking...I must be missing something.Whatever, he's gone--I won't have to listen to him so I'll just take that as a win.

I answered your questions, majority thought or had relatively good expectations about him and I do think, if you watch real world seasons (or AYTO seasons for that matter) the perspective or expectations of how people will perform (whether it's drama, competition, strategy or whatnot) with knowing their background are completely different than just by looking at pictures.  And even that, theory and when it matters most of the times differ because the daily challenges/elimination rounds are rarely pure about atletism or puzzle solving skills   There was no clear evidence he would be going out first,  I mean you already thought and said he got bigger when you saw a newer picture of him about four weeks ago while comparing him to the others. And if you thought Bruno would rub people the wrong way, pretty much every rookie guy here on this cast has a history of rubbing a lot of people the wrong way. To the victor goes the spoils.   

I disagree--those that watch the seasons tend to put their feelings about the person into it.  Bruno did put on mass and I gave him kudos to that but if he shows even a shred of athleticism this season or in the future I'll admit I'm wrong.  Pictures tell a thousand words--Bruno's not an athlete.  Hunter would be the guy I haven't seen prior I expect to do well unless his social game ***** him.  I finally looked up taht Anthony kid--I think he'll need a social game.  When I'm wrong I own it.  Hopefully since everyone seeems to love this Bruno character he does well and gets sent in because of it because I don't want to deal with people that aren't there to compete.  I would have said (in terms of potenital from solely a competitive standpoint)....Hunter/Dylan/Theo/Anthony/Bruno....with Theo & Dylan and Anthony & Bruno interchangeable.  Theo went home early so we'll see what happened with the eliminations.Speaking of that...I wonder if Marie pulled a Diem and just took her app check

There lies the problem, both ways have their pros and cons. And we are dangerously drifting into a discussing in circles teritory. I just think by only looking at pictures, you have no clue about stamina/endurance, sport background, political game. I mean look at Wes, nobody would honestly believe that he is still one of the best swimmer on the challenge eventhough he looks about half the size of Bananas now. Bananas even said that nobody can beat Wes in swimming or Zach in Free Agents, he looked atletic, yet endurance-wise he had major flaws. So bigger build doesn't mean better athlete. About Anthony, ff you watch his seasons, Anthony has a pretttttty good social game, really well liked on his season and pretty smart too (he still was the one who figured out match ups), so their comes the flaw of only watching snaps of him. You never know.As sad as I am that Theo, another one that i was rooting for, left, yet he proofs me that a lot can happen on a challenge... 

But that is why I state "only from a competition standpoint"...politics is completely separate.  Look at Wes by his Austin days--there wouldn'

Okay-t be anything shocking about him being a great swimmer.  He's older now and no longer puts him the same kind of work.  But looking at him now also would accurately tell you he isn't winning too many physical events.  It isn't just about size either.  Athletes typically have a different build...see CT from the Inferno vs Ty from Cutthroat.  It isn't all about mass.  But, yeah, I'm done with the discussion because we're simply not on the same page.

Competition includes politics in an enviroment like the Challenge. It just seems with this particular matter we agree to disagree.

Okay now you're just being ridiculous.  A competitor doesn't include politics/strategy...that's overall game play.  Susie's an elite player but not an elite competitor.  The fact you couldn't grasp that from my prior posts is beyond terrifying.

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