The Challenge: Battle of the Exes 2 - Reunion

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My thoughts:

1. Bananas needs to stop crying: You got outplayed, deal with it. I don't hate him like some, but he's been pretty embarrassing with how he's handled this. There is no way Wes would be ******* and moaning and being as pathetic about the game, and in this game Wes had much more of a legitimate beef than Bananas did.

2. Nia just doesn't do it for me -- too much talking, not enough production. Save the energy you use coming up with iceburns and use it to actually perform in the challenges. All sizzle, very little steak. She just makes herself look stupid a lot and her performance rarely backs up the talk. 

3. I really wish Zach got raked over the coals more. Nothing Jonna did necessitated his behavior toward her.

4. Gotta go with Nany in the Nany-Theresa beef because I still have no idea why Theresa decided to take a 180-degree turn on Nany from Free Agents, and Theresa seems to lack the verbal skills in these settings to make any sort of salient point. Like it has been said, Theresa has turned on people she was good with on previous shows for no apparent reason whatsover.

5. I love Leroy, but the dude needs to emerge from the Bananas (and to a lesser extent, CT) shadow. Bananas ****** you over Leroy. Was happy that Theresa pointed that out -- the rare occasion where Theresa actually talked and makes sense.

1, 2, 3 and 5. Couldn't care less about either one of them i 4 so whatever.

Am I the only one who thinks Bananas is a complete ***?

No.the way he talked to Jay pissed me off. Forget the whole rookie thing and quitting thing. At the hotel, Bananas is all "if you know what's good for you, blablabla." Who the hell does he think he is? Jay didn't say a word to him. And there he goes being salty as hell that someone was running away with his paycheck. Jay's still a grown man and I'm glad he didn't let Bananas talk to him like a boy.

I would've liked for him to have been a bit more aggressive though. He should've made Johnny think twice before talking shit to him again.

I agree with both of you. I really wish he would've brought it to Backpack, He was just rude and disrespectful to him for no reason. Regardless of how Jay did in the final he did what Backpack/Nany/Nia failed to do...Make it to the final and THAT'S what matters. Everything else is Irrelevant. Don't get mad at Jay for your failers.

he made no money, which is the end goal of the game

Like I said..it doesn't matter. Doesn't negate the fact the he made it and they(backpack and Nia) didn't. He tried and that's all he could do.

 

define "try" this he quit on the easiest check point. there was no physical barrier to accomplish his task. this isnt him being unable to climb a rope or run at a certain pace etc. all he has to do is drink something. everybody is aware its gross AF BUUTT..... its 100 percent safe to drink ( they wouldnt let you do it otherwise) and all you have to do is drink it puke and move on at your own pace to collect your cheque... He is mentally weak, thats all there is to it. i wouldnt dog him if he physically was unable to do something, but come on dude just man up.

 

As viewers its insulting to watch them waste a spot, and I can only imagine what the great competitors like Johnny Bannans, wes, zach must feel like to have such a waste tap out so pathetically. Its just stupid from a competive standpoint to have this happen.

 

Damn..I really wish Jay would've layed into Backpack right there. That's the second damn time.

Backpack just needs to shut the **** up and let it go YOU GOT PLAYED! YOUR *** IS GONNA BE ON NEXT SEASON ANWAYS!!!

 

oh well i guess that makes the loss of 125 k easy to swallow! lol why are people confused about why he would be angry?


Because its months later and Bananas has already won thousands on this show.

Hes only made that amount of money in one show once..... also who care if hes made more... he would still be upset. I would be upset for years about 125 grand thats a insane amount of money.

I binge watched the season over the weekend to be able to watch the finale and reunion  live and in context. 

This morning I rewatched the reunion and only one thing sticks with me:  Johnny Bananas has a hair dresser?  Frankly, this explains so much...

I think Jenna's getting way too much credit. She was ready to quit on the road, before the drink. The vibe I got from her was happiness that he said it first so she didn't have to and then she said all the right stuff to still look good. And everyone fell for it.

Nia's very good at the whole - "I crossed the line, I learned my lesson" - speech. But she doesn't really back it up. 

This reunion was filmed a month or two ago, right? She expressed regret about the names she called Sarah, said that was taking it too far, etc. But has called her fat and stupid on twitter since then. 

 

Theresa didn't "turn on Nany"....Wes and Johnny were on different sides from the start--that put them on opposite sides.  And Theresa never said anything untrue about Nany.  Nany did sleep with most of the cast at some point.  Their fight is all about Nany's insecurities.  And I never had any issue with Nany until this season.

But a cast has 20-30 castmembers, Nany has hooked up with what, 6-7 people and some aren't even on the actual season so it isn't true. Regardless, you can be on different sides without having to shit on your friend. Saying "haha who hasn't nany slept with? ;)" to people and bashing her with people who already didnt like her...that's much more than just preaching honesty.

6-7 is about half the male cast...it isn't false.  "Who hasn't she slept" with is a fair statement?  Is CT going to get mad if someone makes that comment about him...absolutely not.  Again, this is about Nany being insecure.  The Nany defenders have lost their mind here.  Nany owns her actions there isn't a problem

those numbers include females though so that opens the gate to both genders, even then the line is still false, because shre hasn't slept with a ton of people. I think you're missing that this wasn't something she just said to Nany or to ya know her friends or anything, but to people who were already against her and said it in a vindictive manner.

Nany absolutely has slept with a ton of people and there's nothing wrong with that. 

If you don't want people to hate you for sleeping with their ex then don't sleep with their ex...it is a real simply conversation.  I slept with the now-wife of one of my best friends in college after the broke up.  I was upfront about it from the beginning and we've never had a problem  I was even in their wedding.  Nany doesn't like to own shit--she the bullshit conversation with Averey.  If you sleep with someone don't make excuses.  Be an adult.  Nany is insecure ABOUT WHAT SHE'S DONE.  That's the real problem not Theresa.  If she was okay with what she had done then Theresa's comments wouldn't have bothered her but here we are.

 

I had a problem with people acting like Averey was doing something wrong because she doesn't want to be friends with Nany. She doesn't have to be cool with the girl who slept with her ex. She's not in the wrong for that. Nany didn't actually wrong her either since they were broken up - but why does Averey get such crap for having feelings about it? I don't want to have heartfelt conversations with my ex's hookups either.

The thing that annoys me about Sarah is she is saying it's just a game but was in tears everytime she was screwed over by her partners. I wish she would just own that it's ****** up and she doesn't care that it is instead of using the game excuse.

Because the flack she's getting for it is upsetting.

If it was a guy, they'd still give him ***, yeah. But this whole thinking she's evil and acting so unbelievably super-sensitive and shocked, that's because she's a woman.

Commonly, the women in this game follow the men's strategy. Sarah was one of the few I've seen (at least recently) to make a move of her own. That's why I have to laugh when she gets called weak. 

 

Side note-- Jess from AYTO snapchat story just going thru all the cast members and giving her expert opinion ugh punch me in the neck if I have to see her on the challenge she needs to **** 

It's really all summed up with Johnny howling at Sarah some silliness about "who's team are you on??" She got him with the simple, obvious truth - Jordan's That was her only teammate.

Alliances should be about helping each other until it doesn't benefit your team anymore. Jordan was her teammate, not Johnny B.

Nany is a true friend and tried to work things out and Theresa still has to act like that for no reason. #Pathetic

I want to punch her on stage.

What is pathetic is Nany trying to pretend she wants to be friends.  Theresa's right--you don't pretend to like someone because you're on camera.  It would be fake.  You keep ripping Sarah for being fake.  No one is more fake than Nany

Nany tried to work it out with outside the show. Theresa is just too immature to have a conversation with.

Theresa explained why she didn't.  She doesn't give a **** about Nany--she's above Nany

I've never seen Nany show an ounce of maturity

I feel like she thinks Nany is the type of girl that you couldn't even trust your man around.   Some girls don't like to be around a girl like Nany.  

and Theresa is any better? lmfao She hooked up with Leroy while she knew he had a gf.

If Theresa doesn't like Nany/doesn't want to be friends with her then that is fine. But the funny thing is she is acting like she was so digusted with Nany's actions on FA yet she was still acting like Nany's bff up until they actually got to Panama. She was talking to Nany right before filming and acting like her friend and then all the sudden she hates her. Theresa is just shady and can't maintain friendships. She never has been able too.

I can't wait until she ****s over Averey.. I'm waiting for it.

I binge watched the season over the weekend to be able to watch the finale and reunion  live and in context. 

This morning I rewatched the reunion and only one thing sticks with me:  Johnny Bananas has a hair dresser?   Frankly, this explains so much...

ROFL

I think Jenna's getting way too much credit. She was ready to quit on the road, before the drink. The vibe I got from her was happiness that he said it first so she didn't have to and then she said all the right stuff to still look good. And everyone fell for it.

Exactly. Jenna was the weak link in the beginning of the final and when Jay kept telling her to run, she said "Oh my god, you're so annoying." and wanted to walk the entire time. No way in hell she would've been able to climb the mountain. They were both screwed from the start. The fact that Jenna got deemed the MVP is laughable. I feel like they said that just to **** Jay off. 

Side note-- Jess from AYTO snapchat story just going thru all the cast members and giving her expert opinion ugh punch me in the neck if I have to see her on the challenge she needs to **** 

.. She was? Lord help us if MTV/BMP decide to go stupid again and cast her dumb ***. I actually liked her on AYTO a bit, but if she's doing that, then I don't really want to see her - on top of Shanley, Ryan and the rest of their dumb *****.

I think Jenna's getting way too much credit. She was ready to quit on the road, before the drink. The vibe I got from her was happiness that he said it first so she didn't have to and then she said all the right stuff to still look good. And everyone fell for it.

Exactly. Jenna was the weak link in the beginning of the final and when Jay kept telling her to run, she said "Oh my god, you're so annoying." and wanted to walk the entire time. There is no way in hell she would've been able to climb the mountain. They were both screwed from the start. The fact that Jenna got deemed the MVP is laughable. I feel like they said that just to **** Jay off. 

Side note-- Jess from AYTO snapchat story just going thru all the cast members and giving her expert opinion ugh punch me in the neck if I have to see her on the challenge she needs to **** 

.. She was? Lord help us if MTV/BMP decide to go stupid again and cast her dumb ***. I actually liked her on AYTO a bit, but if she's doing that, then I don't really want to see her - on top of Shanley, Ryan and the rest of their dumb *****.

It is probably for attention. Apparently no one from AYTO got calls. Unless it changed..

I think Jenna's getting way too much credit. She was ready to quit on the road, before the drink. The vibe I got from her was happiness that he said it first so she didn't have to and then she said all the right stuff to still look good. And everyone fell for it.

Exactly. Jenna was the weak link in the beginning of the final and when Jay kept telling her to run, she said "Oh my god, you're so annoying." and wanted to walk the entire time. No way in hell she would've been able to climb the mountain. They were both screwed from the start. The fact that Jenna got deemed the MVP is laughable. I feel like they said that just to **** Jay off. 

That's it right there. Jenna wasn't shit in the final either.

Does anyone know when a S27 Speculation thread goes up? Or is it still too soon?

This.Also she obviously didn't want to drink the drink.She could've did like Leroy and do her part while Teresa was throwing up.

Side note-- Jess from AYTO snapchat story just going thru all the cast members and giving her expert opinion ugh punch me in the neck if I have to see her on the challenge she needs to **** 

.. She was? Lord help us if MTV/BMP decide to go stupid again and cast her dumb ***. I actually liked her on AYTO a bit, but if she's doing that, then I don't really want to see her - on top of Shanley, Ryan and the rest of their dumb *****.

I liked her afterwards too until recently. Watched her snapchat last night and literally cringed. Girl bye...

Host:  "Zach we know you are a good guy."

 

Do we?

I hated that!  

I think overall she has been a good host (after shows and reunion), but she definitely has room to improve.  She does call some people out and isn't buddy-buddy with them like other hosts have been, but at the same time, she makes comments like this and smiles or laughs along with people who are trying to minimize their behaviour by joking about it.  

 

Jordan is right.  While Nia does take responsibility for her behaviour, she ultimately blames others for her actions.  She's sorry she did it, but it's because of them that she did it in the first place.  No, you choose to behave the way you did, it's all on you.

It's like a child.  "I hit him because he... took my toy/wouldn't play with me/ignored me/looked at me, etc."  You teach your children not to respond to hurt feelings or being wronged or excluded (or whatever) by lashing out physically or by hurling insults, but unfortunately, many adults never accomplish this.  There are certain personalities that need to have the last word and need to hurt others when they're hurt and angry.  Nia is one these people, and she always will be.   She'll spend her life apologizing.  

Is it me or is Sarah trying to find her voice on this reunion???..something is OFF-

Jemmye said the girls were wearing her clothes at the reunion.

That was all on the Zach segment? What a ******* joke.

I wish the cast ripped him.

Jonna's so sweet "You all don't have to come to my defense" Love her

He is always allowed to just smile and laugh off his behaviour.  

Jordan is right.  While Nia does take responsibility for her behaviour, she ultimately blames others for her actions.  She's sorry she did it, but it's because of them that she did it in the first place.  No, you choose to behave the way you did, it's all on you.

It's like a child.  "I hit him because he... took my toy/wouldn't play with me/ignored me/looked at me, etc."  You teach your children not to respond to hurt feelings or being wronged or excluded (or whatever) by lashing out physically or by hurling insults, but unfortunately, many adults never accomplish this.  There are certain personalities that need to have the last word and need to hurt others when they're hurt and angry.  Nia is one these people, and she always will be.   She'll spend her life apologizing.  

 

I really saw no difference between her justifications and Zach's. Everyone was on Zach because he basically said, "I'm sorry that you made me so mad that I said mean things". Nia said the exact same thing. Not about the touching, granted, but about her words, "They did things that made me snap and say all of that stuff". So it's Sarah and Jordan's fault that you have no self-control? People seem to keep saying that Nia is growing up and learning and good for her but she pretty much took no responsiblity for any of the shit that she said. Yeah, I said that stuff...but you made me do it. Last I checked, when they got back to the challenge she FOLLOWED Sarah around insulting her. She also was talking shit loudly in the room with Johnny and Nany, knowing Sarah could hear, and when out when Jordan defended his partner. Nobody made her say anything. She has no self control. 

That was all on the Zach segment? What a ******* joke.

I wish the cast ripped him.

Jonna's so sweet "You all don't have to come to my defense" Love her

He is always allowed to just smile and laugh off his behaviour.  

Sad but true.

Nia has no right to be mad at Jay and Jenna. She and Leroy had a chance to throw them in and they didn't. She also took herself out of the game by harasssing Jordan. She has no right to talk.

I hate her attitude and tone when she's talking about "rookies".  She talks as if she's seen several finals when this is only her second challenge, and she didn't last long on the first challenge.  Not only did she take herself out of the game, she also quit on one of the challenges.  She's in no position to talk crap about them.  

When it comes down to it, bringing Jay and Jenna to the finals just proves that Sarah made the right move.  Bananas needs to get over it.  Yeah, it sucks, and sure, he has every right to be upset by it, but he also has to accept that it's part of the game.  I think he's less hurt by being betrayed by a friend and more pissed that he got outplayed and manipulated (by a woman, no less) and lost out on his yearly salary.  

I'm really indifferent on the Nia situation. The Jordan/Nia stuff is the same shit that happen on Portand and I don't really care about it.

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