But I gurantee she came into the house with a nasty/bitter attiude considering Bananas said on the aftershow that everything Johnny said about her was how she acted.
avery said that bananas was mean to her the moment she came into the house. when you have reilly poison someones name before actually meeting them its difficult to have a pure and objective opinion of the person even if you try to push those alleged beliefs to the back of your mind. those beliefs at the back of your mind will still be waving "hello" especially in bananas and reilly case where they were really good friends after agents. often people will default to a selective confirmation bias which is basically filtering evidence that only proves what youre thinking or looking for. its possible bananas heard that avery was a ***** so he only searched hard and high for averys *****iness to corroborate reillys claim while ignoring all the times she was nice. reilly told bananas that avery was a cheater probably and he used the adam scenario as "cheating" to confirm the claim but avery clearly doesnt consider what she did with adam as cheating.
keep in mind that theresa also really liked reilly before but she heard averys piece after and sided with her. whether she was being a tribalist for women or wes, since reilly was against wes, nobody realy knows but some credit should be given to avery for being able to pull one of the only people who actually decided to listen to BOTH sides of the stories. sounds to me like bananas and CT were being bullies even before they got to hear her side.
I honestly only think Theresa took Averey's side because she knew Averey hated Nany and Theresa was jealous and bitter that Nany made the finals over her so it was probably just a way for Theresa to hate on Nany even more. I don't see Averey/Theresa's friendship as that genuine.
I really REALLY don't...but it bothered me when on the aftershow after Leroy said he believes Johnny, Averey's response was "of course, they're boys". I think that's pretty unfair.
thats pretty funny but straightforward that you interpreted averys response as gender related. i thought her saying "theyre boys" was just a figurative way of saying they're friends like how leroy has referred to mike(vegas) as "my boy" and not in the literal sense. is it possible that it could be either? i didnt hear anything said after which solidified what verbal device avery was using. also im not even sure which one would make leroys position anymore biased. would leroy be more biased for johnny beacuse hes his "boy" or a boy?
I think if you're intepreting it as "boys" as in friends/homies/whatever, it's not as bad. I think suggesting blind loyalty to your friend is a little less insulting that suggesting blind loyalty to your gender. I'm always going to side with my friends (to a point), but I'm not going to categorically agree with any random dude on the street if he's arguing with a girl. I tried to go back and listen to see if I could hear it in her voice what she meant (or if she said "you're a boy" or something like that), but you can't tell.
But it is entirely possible that I conclusion-jumped there and she just meant friends. Though I still think you can be biased in favor of your friend, but still be on the side that you would normally be on despite that bias.
I also don't think Leroy was hating on Averey. He gave his opinion of the situation when he was asked and he even was like I don't have anything against you Averey but your story doesn't add up. I don't think Leroy did anything mean to her. Even in the zombie clip it seemed like he had no problem with her and they were both laughing about the clip on the aftershow.
I agree and she didn't hide her disdain for the dudes she didn't like on the challenge in her interview with Murtz, and she didn't name Leroy. I think they probably had a decent relationship in the house due to the fact she looked pretty comfortable with him during the aftershow and the zombie story.....
My favorite question that Averey got asked was: "Do you think it is hypocritical of Johnny to tell you that you were "brainwashed" by Wes, when he is obviously a follower and clearly manipulated by Bananas?"
I think that's a pretty dumb question actually. There's a huge difference between those two relationships.
A.) Reilly actually knew Bananas and was aware of his character enough to know whether or not he was trustworthy. He started out being ambivalent to him and then grew to know and like him. Averey knew Wes for a week before that started to happen.
B.) According to Reilly, the only thing he had going on with Johnny, apart from friendship, was an unspoken you don't vote for me, I don't vote for you. I'm not sure how he was being manipulated. He had other alliances...he had other people he was loyal to. What did he do this season that Bananas convinced him to? Nothing. Wes had Averey making his bed for him. And also managed to convince her to be mad at Johnny over being voted in when he admitted that it had nothing to do with Bananas, and everything to with getting in a better position with Jordan/Zach, and Averey wasn't as important to him as Jay, Adam, Zach, or Sarah.
(Nothing against you for posting that someone asked that. I just think it's a stupid question and someone trying to kiss ***).
Yeah I agree you on that. I don't think Reilly was manipulated by Bananas. I just thought that was a funny *** question lol I wanna see Bananas on a challenge with all the girls that hate him like Averey, KellyAnne and Cara Maria.
Thinking about it Zach have a good set of coed rivals if they ever do one Evelyn/Kellyanne/Rachel/Cara Maria
I have to say, it's been kind of surprising and sad to see how things turned out with Johnny and Averey.
The last MTV reality show I watched was the Real World Portland. I haven't watched or followed any of the Real World or Challenge seasons since and didn't find out about Johnny and Averey breaking up until tuning in to this current Challenge season.
While watching this Challenge season and seeing how much tension and animosty exist between them, I went back and watched the Real World Portland as I have it on iTunes and yeah ... it's just kind of suprising and sad to see the way things turned out. During Portland, yeah they had a few little quarrels but by the end of the show their relationship seemed very genuine, heartfelt, and that it was the real deal. It didn't feel fake or short-term like a lot of these reality tv show relationships do. When they left Portland, Johnny took Averey's dog back to Massachusetts with him and then a month or two later he flew out to Arizona, got a Uhaul truck, helped Averey pack up, and they both drove back to Massachusetts and moved in together. On the Portland Reunion show when they showed follow up videos of what everyone has been up to since, they showed footage of Johnny and Averey living in their apartment together and they seemed happy.
Anyways, yeah again it's just kind of sad to see how things turned out.
Watching this Challenge season, even though there is all this tension between them and they don't talk, it still really seems like Averey primarily came on this show to try and re-establish a relationship with Johhny on some level. Watching her interviews/confessionals/comments during the show and aftershows I feel just kind of show that she never wanted to break up, still has feelings for him, hates the way things ended, and wants him in her life on some level even if it's just as a friend. I mean obviously trying to win the Challenge and win some good money was a factor too but it still feels like she primarily came on for Johnny. Unfortunately, it just seems like Johnny wants nothing to do with her.
I still don't know if she cheated as far as sleeping with the other guy because I remember on their season Reilly was a really jealous boyfriend who would get mad if Averey even talked to another guy. And I think Averey is just a naturally flirtatious person. Whether she actually slept with another guy, we don't know, but it seems she definitely put herself in situations that looked bad and she did get with the guy she was accused of cheating with after the break up, so something must have been brewing at least emotionally. So I don't blame Reilly at all for feeling the way he did. He said she broke the trust and there's no going back after that. I'm the same way.
Reilly did say in his interview that while he wouldn't exactly be close with her again that he's fine with being around Averey on future challenges, and chatting it up with her.
I think Johnny is acting the most mature about it. He said he had no problem sitting next to her during the Afterbuzz interview and he said on future challenges that he had no problem being in the same room as her and maybe talking to her to see how her family's doing and stuff like that. It is honestly her that can't be civil with him. She said she wants to be but then she won't sit next to him during an interview. I hope on future challenges they can actually be civil like Johanna/Wes, Kellyanne/Cohutta, Danny/Melinda. Etc
I think its best if they're not together. I don't think Johnny is in the state of mind to be in a relationship. Averey obvioulsy wanted to be with him and most deff loves him but is heartbroken because he wants nothing to do with her. She's probably not used to being the one rejected so she kind of puts her foot in her mouth at times. Love her tho #TEAMAVEREYANDNIA
I still don't know if she cheated as far as sleeping with the other guy because I remember on their season Reilly was a really jealous boyfriend who would get mad if Averey even talked to another guy. And I think Averey is just a naturally flirtatious person. Whether she actually slept with another guy, we don't know, but it seems she definitely put herself in situations that looked bad and she did get with the guy she was accused of cheating with after the break up, so something must have been brewing at least emotionally. So I don't blame Reilly at all for feeling the way he did. He said she broke the trust and there's no going back after that. I'm the same way.
Reilly did say in his interview that while he wouldn't exactly be close with her again that he's fine with being around Averey on future challenges, and chatting it up with her.
He didn't say what exactly she did right? I can't really remember. She could've kissed him or maybe she said I love you to that other guy.
I think cheating is different for everyone. But kissing or sleeping with someone else is cheating for everyone. I hope.
I think Johnny is acting the most mature about it. He said he had no problem sitting next to her during the Afterbuzz interview and he said on future challenges that he had no problem being in the same room as her and maybe talking to her to see how her family's doing and stuff like that. It is honestly her that can't be civil with him. She said she wants to be but then she won't sit next to him during an interview. I hope on future challenges they can actually be civil like Johanna/Wes, Kellyanne/Cohutta, Danny/Melinda. Etc
That's what I like about Johnny. He seems mature, calm and responsible. I can't really remember what he was like on his season but this season he seems mature.
I don't think she cheated but I do think that she needs to be civil and move on at this point because it's obvious that Johnny doesn't want to be with her anymore so there's no sense in trying anymore.
Yeah she definitely had to have done something to basically make Johnny say to himself "Screw this! I'm done!"
Johnny did say in a recent interview(the RobHasAPodCast interview I think) that he's the type of guy now that once you break his trust and he can't trust you anymore, he basically shuts down and is done with you. Averey insists that she never cheated but at the very least she definitely had to have behaved in some sketchy ways that completely broke Johnny's trust.
On this current Challenge season, she's made comments like "I ended up in situations that looked bad ..." and "if only Johnny had given me a chance, we wouldn't even be exes ..." which are the comments of someone who knows that they screwed up. So she basically acknowledges that her behavior was sketchy but insists that it didn't involve cheating. We'll never know but I tend to agree that the fact that she is now currently with the guy who Johnny suscpected she was cheating with just looks really bad.
Anyways, this is actually all old drama by now as wasn't this show taped/filmed last summer? Johnny moved on a long time ago and I'm sure Averey has finally moved on as well by now. Averey recently said in an interview(the Murtz Jaffer interview I think) that she's moved back to AZ. Hopefully they both appear on a future challenge because it would be interesting to see how they interact after moving on.
her words have been "looking back at it" and "its not wrong but it might look like it". her retrospection... looking back at it" is a result of johnnys or a third persons view, all of which are different from her own first person view since she personally still doesnt admit to doing anything wrong and she really shouldnt have to admit it or change her standards,personality and conscience because her hypersensitive boyfriend is insecure about her leaving him.
its good that they broke up. two people of completely different attraction and personality levels never works out anyways since there are fewer similarities and more conflicts and youll always have the "uglier" person of the relationship(johnny) constnatly trying to compensate or at the brink of a heart attack becauase his spouse holds all the power in their hands as to whether or not theyre going to cheat or leave. it must have drove him to insanity knowing how many guys were vying for avery and probably didnt want to deal with all that pressure anymore
reilly needs averey far more than averey needs reilly and she needs to realize this and stop crying over scraps. reilly will never find a girl on averys level again unless he gets REALLY lucky and even then hes going to have to damn near kill himself to keep her around. avery can find someone like johnny in a second. johnny is ugly, not that intelligent, probably less financially stable than avery and from what nia has said...lacking in somewhere else...tacky i know but reilly advertised it on portland so its fair game, AND most importantly he has a seemingly horrible personality so really, he has like nothing to bring to the table. avery was being hypogamous and needs to stop trying to eat dollar store purina puppy chow in the form of reilly and at least move up to a mcdonalds dollar menu item.
I'm going to miss this team. They definitely brought the drama this season. Averey did great for her first challenge! Out of the 5 rookie girls, she was the strongest and most entertaining player IMO.
her words have been "looking back at it" and "its not wrong but it might look like it". her retrospection... looking back at it" is a result of johnnys or a third persons view, all of which are different from her own first person view since she personally still doesnt admit to doing anything wrong and she really shouldnt have to admit it or change her standards,personality and conscience because her hypersensitive boyfriend is insecure about her leaving him.
its good that they broke up. two people of completely different attraction and personality levels never works out anyways since there are fewer similarities and more conflicts and youll always have the "uglier" person of the relationship(johnny) constnatly trying to compensate or at the brink of a heart attack becauase his spouse holds all the power in their hands as to whether or not theyre going to cheat or leave. it must have drove him to insanity knowing how many guys were vying for avery and probably didnt want to deal with all that pressure anymore
reilly needs averey far more than averey needs reilly and she needs to realize this and stop crying over scraps. reilly will never find a girl on averys level again unless he gets REALLY lucky and even then hes going to have to damn near kill himself to keep her around. avery can find someone like johnny in a second. johnny is ugly, not that intelligent, probably less financially stable than avery and from what nia has said...lacking in somewhere else...tacky i know but reilly advertised it on portland so its fair game, AND most importantly he has a seemingly horrible personality so really, he has like nothing to bring to the table. avery was being hypogamous and needs to stop trying to eat dollar store purina puppy chow in the form of reilly and at least move up to a mcdonalds dollar menu item.
It's not all about the looks. And it seems as if Avery needs Johnny. Have you seen this season? Johnny doesn't care at all.
her words have been "looking back at it" and "its not wrong but it might look like it". her retrospection... looking back at it" is a result of johnnys or a third persons view, all of which are different from her own first person view since she personally still doesnt admit to doing anything wrong and she really shouldnt have to admit it or change her standards,personality and conscience because her hypersensitive boyfriend is insecure about her leaving him.
its good that they broke up. two people of completely different attraction and personality levels never works out anyways since there are fewer similarities and more conflicts and youll always have the "uglier" person of the relationship(johnny) constnatly trying to compensate or at the brink of a heart attack becauase his spouse holds all the power in their hands as to whether or not theyre going to cheat or leave. it must have drove him to insanity knowing how many guys were vying for avery and probably didnt want to deal with all that pressure anymore
reilly needs averey far more than averey needs reilly and she needs to realize this and stop crying over scraps. reilly will never find a girl on averys level again unless he gets REALLY lucky and even then hes going to have to damn near kill himself to keep her around. avery can find someone like johnny in a second. johnny is ugly, not that intelligent, probably less financially stable than avery and from what nia has said...lacking in somewhere else...tacky i know but reilly advertised it on portland so its fair game, AND most importantly he has a seemingly horrible personality so really, he has like nothing to bring to the table. avery was being hypogamous and needs to stop trying to eat dollar store purina puppy chow in the form of reilly and at least move up to a mcdonalds dollar menu item.
from a dollar to a dollar... shooting for the moon there
her words have been "looking back at it" and "its not wrong but it might look like it". her retrospection... looking back at it" is a result of johnnys or a third persons view, all of which are different from her own first person view since she personally still doesnt admit to doing anything wrong and she really shouldnt have to admit it or change her standards,personality and conscience because her hypersensitive boyfriend is insecure about her leaving him.
its good that they broke up. two people of completely different attraction and personality levels never works out anyways since there are fewer similarities and more conflicts and youll always have the "uglier" person of the relationship(johnny) constnatly trying to compensate or at the brink of a heart attack becauase his spouse holds all the power in their hands as to whether or not theyre going to cheat or leave. it must have drove him to insanity knowing how many guys were vying for avery and probably didnt want to deal with all that pressure anymore
reilly needs averey far more than averey needs reilly and she needs to realize this and stop crying over scraps. reilly will never find a girl on averys level again unless he gets REALLY lucky and even then hes going to have to damn near kill himself to keep her around. avery can find someone like johnny in a second. johnny is ugly, not that intelligent, probably less financially stable than avery and from what nia has said...lacking in somewhere else...tacky i know but reilly advertised it on portland so its fair game, AND most importantly he has a seemingly horrible personality so really, he has like nothing to bring to the table. avery was being hypogamous and needs to stop trying to eat dollar store purina puppy chow in the form of reilly and at least move up to a mcdonalds dollar menu item.
i think you're making it too much about looks. And even taking it there, Reilly had a gorgeous girl like Nany going on about how hot he is, I doubt Reilly, especially with his humor and Boston boy swagger has a tough time getting girls. He's not even ugly. Just average.
And good looks only go so far. Being good looking doesn't mean you're easy to live with or a good girlfriend/boyfriend, and it certainly doesn't mean you're worth dealing with mistreatment/cheating/disrespect.
Why does Johnny need Averey more than the other way around? I don't think either one needs the other anymore. Reilly especially felt she did him wrong, and so he's done with her. Averey has been honest about still having feelings for him, but she's a strong girl and she'll be fine. She has been burned many times by guys she has said. They are better off moving on because when you don't have trust in a relationship, it's a disaster.
her words have been "looking back at it" and "its not wrong but it might look like it". her retrospection... looking back at it" is a result of johnnys or a third persons view, all of which are different from her own first person view since she personally still doesnt admit to doing anything wrong and she really shouldnt have to admit it or change her standards,personality and conscience because her hypersensitive boyfriend is insecure about her leaving him.
its good that they broke up. two people of completely different attraction and personality levels never works out anyways since there are fewer similarities and more conflicts and youll always have the "uglier" person of the relationship(johnny) constnatly trying to compensate or at the brink of a heart attack becauase his spouse holds all the power in their hands as to whether or not theyre going to cheat or leave. it must have drove him to insanity knowing how many guys were vying for avery and probably didnt want to deal with all that pressure anymore
reilly needs averey far more than averey needs reilly and she needs to realize this and stop crying over scraps. reilly will never find a girl on averys level again unless he gets REALLY lucky and even then hes going to have to damn near kill himself to keep her around. avery can find someone like johnny in a second. johnny is ugly, not that intelligent, probably less financially stable than avery and from what nia has said...lacking in somewhere else...tacky i know but reilly advertised it on portland so its fair game, AND most importantly he has a seemingly horrible personality so really, he has like nothing to bring to the table. avery was being hypogamous and needs to stop trying to eat dollar store purina puppy chow in the form of reilly and at least move up to a mcdonalds dollar menu item.
i think you're making it too much about looks. And even taking it there, Reilly had a gorgeous girl like Nany going on about how hot he is, I doubt Reilly, especially with his humor and Boston boy swagger has a tough time getting girls. He's not even ugly. Just average.
And good looks only go so far. Being good looking doesn't mean you're easy to live with or a good girlfriend/boyfriend, and it certainly doesn't mean you're worth dealing with mistreatment/cheating/disrespect.
Why does Johnny need Averey more than the other way around? I don't think either one needs the other anymore. Reilly especially felt she did him wrong, and so he's done with her. Averey has been honest about still having feelings for him, but she's a strong girl and she'll be fine. She has been burned many times by guys she has said. They are better off moving on because when you don't have trust in a relationship, it's a disaster.
Yes in the end it was best that they just moved on. It's still sad but it's what needed to happen. They were what 21 when they met and got together? I don't think either one of them were mature enough to deal with and handle whatever it was that happened. That's not to say that all people in their very early 20s aren't mature enough to deal with significant relationship problems, I just don't think Johnny and Averey were.
I don't think the looks thing had much to do with it either. Yes, Johnny isn't the hot pretty boy type but I wouldn't say he's an ugly dude, he's just a regular guy like 90% of the male population. One thing I've learned is that you don't have to be a Channing Tatum type of guy to get a really attractive girl/woman. You just have to be decent looking enough so that she initially finds you "cute". Then from that point on, her level of attraction to you is completely determined by how you maker her FEEL while she's around you and with you. Johnny, judging by his confidence with girls/women(e.g. Averey on Portland, Nany on the Challenge), comes across as a guy who gets and understands this.
her words have been "looking back at it" and "its not wrong but it might look like it". her retrospection... looking back at it" is a result of johnnys or a third persons view, all of which are different from her own first person view since she personally still doesnt admit to doing anything wrong and she really shouldnt have to admit it or change her standards,personality and conscience because her hypersensitive boyfriend is insecure about her leaving him.
its good that they broke up. two people of completely different attraction and personality levels never works out anyways since there are fewer similarities and more conflicts and youll always have the "uglier" person of the relationship(johnny) constnatly trying to compensate or at the brink of a heart attack becauase his spouse holds all the power in their hands as to whether or not theyre going to cheat or leave. it must have drove him to insanity knowing how many guys were vying for avery and probably didnt want to deal with all that pressure anymore
reilly needs averey far more than averey needs reilly and she needs to realize this and stop crying over scraps. reilly will never find a girl on averys level again unless he gets REALLY lucky and even then hes going to have to damn near kill himself to keep her around. avery can find someone like johnny in a second. johnny is ugly, not that intelligent, probably less financially stable than avery and from what nia has said...lacking in somewhere else...tacky i know but reilly advertised it on portland so its fair game, AND most importantly he has a seemingly horrible personality so really, he has like nothing to bring to the table. avery was being hypogamous and needs to stop trying to eat dollar store purina puppy chow in the form of reilly and at least move up to a mcdonalds dollar menu item.
i think you're making it too much about looks. And even taking it there, Reilly had a gorgeous girl like Nany going on about how hot he is, I doubt Reilly, especially with his humor and Boston boy swagger has a tough time getting girls. He's not even ugly. Just average.
And good looks only go so far. Being good looking doesn't mean you're easy to live with or a good girlfriend/boyfriend, and it certainly doesn't mean you're worth dealing with mistreatment/cheating/disrespect.
Why does Johnny need Averey more than the other way around? I don't think either one needs the other anymore. Reilly especially felt she did him wrong, and so he's done with her. Averey has been honest about still having feelings for him, but she's a strong girl and she'll be fine. She has been burned many times by guys she has said. They are better off moving on because when you don't have trust in a relationship, it's a disaster.
I would actually pick Johnny over most of The Challenge guys. Even though he's not super hot.
He seems nice and he has loads of friends in the house. That says a lot.
Agreed. I haven't heard anyone say anything bad about Johnny Reily from the challenges except Averey (obviously) and Simone which doesn't count.
Even Wes tweeted about how he really likes Johnny but he just had to vote him in just based on that they were in different alliances.
Haha I saw that tweet. I laughed. What did Simone say?
Simone said in an interview that she had issues with Reilly, Nia, Thomas and Jemmye but those four didn't even give her the time of day because she was so irrelevant to them.
I would actually pick Johnny over most of The Challenge guys. Even though he's not super hot.
He seems nice and he has loads of friends in the house. That says a lot.
Agreed. I haven't heard anyone say anything bad about Johnny Reily from the challenges except Averey (obviously) and Simone which doesn't count.
Even Wes tweeted about how he really likes Johnny but he just had to vote him in just based on that they were in different alliances.
Haha I saw that tweet. I laughed. What did Simone say?
I think she said he was corny. Basically she was just pissed because Johnny told Bananas he wanted to go up against JJ/Simone for the dome and Simone was trying to act like they weren't the weakest team so she tried to start drama with him and he ignored it just like the rest of the people she tried to start drama with...
I honestly only think Theresa took Averey's side because she knew Averey hated Nany and Theresa was jealous and bitter that Nany made the finals over her so it was probably just a way for Theresa to hate on Nany even more. I don't see Averey/Theresa's friendship as that genuine.
I think if you're intepreting it as "boys" as in friends/homies/whatever, it's not as bad. I think suggesting blind loyalty to your friend is a little less insulting that suggesting blind loyalty to your gender. I'm always going to side with my friends (to a point), but I'm not going to categorically agree with any random dude on the street if he's arguing with a girl. I tried to go back and listen to see if I could hear it in her voice what she meant (or if she said "you're a boy" or something like that), but you can't tell.
But it is entirely possible that I conclusion-jumped there and she just meant friends. Though I still think you can be biased in favor of your friend, but still be on the side that you would normally be on despite that bias.
I think she meant they are boys like bros, she probably would have said guys if she meant gender wise.
I agree and she didn't hide her disdain for the dudes she didn't like on the challenge in her interview with Murtz, and she didn't name Leroy. I think they probably had a decent relationship in the house due to the fact she looked pretty comfortable with him during the aftershow and the zombie story.....
That's how I took it. Like that's Leroy's boy, or his homie. Not in the relatable gender sense......
I mean bananas not zach lol
That's why I think she cheated.
She's beautiful and their relationship seemed real. Why would you give that up? Something must have happened. That's what I think.
I still don't know if she cheated as far as sleeping with the other guy because I remember on their season Reilly was a really jealous boyfriend who would get mad if Averey even talked to another guy. And I think Averey is just a naturally flirtatious person. Whether she actually slept with another guy, we don't know, but it seems she definitely put herself in situations that looked bad and she did get with the guy she was accused of cheating with after the break up, so something must have been brewing at least emotionally. So I don't blame Reilly at all for feeling the way he did. He said she broke the trust and there's no going back after that. I'm the same way.
Reilly did say in his interview that while he wouldn't exactly be close with her again that he's fine with being around Averey on future challenges, and chatting it up with her.
I think Johnny is acting the most mature about it. He said he had no problem sitting next to her during the Afterbuzz interview and he said on future challenges that he had no problem being in the same room as her and maybe talking to her to see how her family's doing and stuff like that. It is honestly her that can't be civil with him. She said she wants to be but then she won't sit next to him during an interview. I hope on future challenges they can actually be civil like Johanna/Wes, Kellyanne/Cohutta, Danny/Melinda. Etc
I think its best if they're not together. I don't think Johnny is in the state of mind to be in a relationship. Averey obvioulsy wanted to be with him and most deff loves him but is heartbroken because he wants nothing to do with her. She's probably not used to being the one rejected so she kind of puts her foot in her mouth at times. Love her tho #TEAMAVEREYANDNIA
He didn't say what exactly she did right? I can't really remember. She could've kissed him or maybe she said I love you to that other guy.
I think cheating is different for everyone. But kissing or sleeping with someone else is cheating for everyone. I hope.
That's what I like about Johnny. He seems mature, calm and responsible. I can't really remember what he was like on his season but this season he seems mature.
I don't think she cheated but I do think that she needs to be civil and move on at this point because it's obvious that Johnny doesn't want to be with her anymore so there's no sense in trying anymore.
her words have been "looking back at it" and "its not wrong but it might look like it". her retrospection...
looking back at it" is a result of johnnys or a third persons view, all of which are different from her own first person view since she personally still doesnt admit to doing anything wrong and she really shouldnt have to admit it or change her standards,personality and conscience because her hypersensitive boyfriend is insecure about her leaving him.
its good that they broke up. two people of completely different attraction and personality levels never works out anyways since there are fewer similarities and more conflicts and youll always have the "uglier" person of the relationship(johnny) constnatly trying to compensate or at the brink of a heart attack becauase his spouse holds all the power in their hands as to whether or not theyre going to cheat or leave. it must have drove him to insanity knowing how many guys were vying for avery and probably didnt want to deal with all that pressure anymore
reilly needs averey far more than averey needs reilly and she needs to realize this and stop crying over scraps. reilly will never find a girl on averys level again unless he gets REALLY lucky and even then hes going to have to damn near kill himself to keep her around. avery can find someone like johnny in a second. johnny is ugly, not that intelligent, probably less financially stable than avery and from what nia has said...lacking in somewhere else...tacky i know but reilly advertised it on portland so its fair game, AND most importantly he has a seemingly horrible personality so really, he has like nothing to bring to the table. avery was being hypogamous and needs to stop trying to eat dollar store purina puppy chow in the form of reilly and at least move up to a mcdonalds dollar menu item.
I'm going to miss this team. They definitely brought the drama this season. Averey did great for her first challenge! Out of the 5 rookie girls, she was the strongest and most entertaining player IMO.
It's not all about the looks. And it seems as if Avery needs Johnny. Have you seen this season? Johnny doesn't care at all.
from a dollar to a dollar... shooting for the moon there
i think you're making it too much about looks. And even taking it there, Reilly had a gorgeous girl like Nany going on about how hot he is, I doubt Reilly, especially with his humor and Boston boy swagger has a tough time getting girls. He's not even ugly. Just average.
And good looks only go so far. Being good looking doesn't mean you're easy to live with or a good girlfriend/boyfriend, and it certainly doesn't mean you're worth dealing with mistreatment/cheating/disrespect.
Why does Johnny need Averey more than the other way around? I don't think either one needs the other anymore. Reilly especially felt she did him wrong, and so he's done with her. Averey has been honest about still having feelings for him, but she's a strong girl and she'll be fine. She has been burned many times by guys she has said. They are better off moving on because when you don't have trust in a relationship, it's a disaster.
Yes in the end it was best that they just moved on. It's still sad but it's what needed to happen. They were what 21 when they met and got together? I don't think either one of them were mature enough to deal with and handle whatever it was that happened. That's not to say that all people in their very early 20s aren't mature enough to deal with significant relationship problems, I just don't think Johnny and Averey were.
Very well said!
I would actually pick Johnny over most of The Challenge guys. Even though he's not super hot.
He seems nice and he has loads of friends in the house. That says a lot.
To be fair, most of the Challenge guys aren't exactly the most appealing guys. I'd take Cohutta over them all.
Cohutta should give men a try, I'd never break his heart.
True. Johnny isn't either but he's nice which makes him attractive imo.
Yes! Cohutta is a sweetheart and super cute.
Agreed. I haven't heard anyone say anything bad about Johnny Reily from the challenges except Averey (obviously) and Simone which doesn't count.
Even Wes tweeted about how he really likes Johnny but he just had to vote him in just based on that they were in different alliances.
Haha I saw that tweet. I laughed. What did Simone say?
Simone said in an interview that she had issues with Reilly, Nia, Thomas and Jemmye but those four didn't even give her the time of day because she was so irrelevant to them.
I think she said he was corny. Basically she was just pissed because Johnny told Bananas he wanted to go up against JJ/Simone for the dome and Simone was trying to act like they weren't the weakest team so she tried to start drama with him and he ignored it just like the rest of the people she tried to start drama with...
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