Yeah he does something for the ratings (slick) but not really. Have him not show up a season and the show will go on IMO.
But what happened with Battle of the Seasons... #OOPS
Not to mention fresh meat 2 that also tanked in the ratings got some of the worst ratings in history as well for the show. Which Bananas happened to take another small break for that one.
Yeah but that was a few years back when Jersey Shore was around so technically no.
Exactly! Jersey shore was around and that show with teen mom was averaging 3.0-3.5. Now days mtv more popular show Teen mom now days pulls around .9-1.2 .
Now an average of an mtv show is .5-.9 there is no comparission, how much ratings on MTV have gone down the hill. MTV is dying as a network.
I actually said something about The Challenge at work last night and I was blown away by how many of my coworkers actually watch it. Most casually, one or two diehards. The general consensus? Every single one of them said that the show would be so much better if the old schoolers came back.
It's nice to see your ancedotal evidence consisting of a sample size of what? 10-20 is an accurate reflection of the half a million people who watch the show.
The Challenge blows now, is gimmicky, and steals ideas from better reality competition shows and still fails. No wonder they were quick to film two this year, milking the cash cow before they pull the plug.
You're clearly biased. Good day.
And yet that doesn't change the fact that everything I said was completely true. LOL.
Yeah he does something for the ratings (slick) but not really. Have him not show up a season and the show will go on IMO.
But what happened with Battle of the Seasons... #OOPS
True but that was then. This is now and now I think they can afford for him to not show up. If anything CT is more important.
CT or Bananas will be on. CT's not willing to spend 6 weeks filming right now. There will not be a challenge without Bananas until CT's stance chances. Seasons ended any possibility of that ever happening.
I have said this before can you imagine the ratings if Bananas wasn't there?Just look at last seasons ratings the 2 weeks where he was featured before he got eliminated had huge numbers than the 3 weeks after he got eliminated the numbers went down drastically, the week he returns huge ratings again.The proof is in the pudding,go check last years ratings,they don't lie.
I have said this before can you imagine the ratings if Bananas wasn't there?Just look at last seasons ratings the 2 weeks where he was featured before he got eliminated had huge numbers than the 3 weeks after he got eliminated the numbers went down drastically, the week he returns huge ratings again.The proof is in the pudding,go check last years ratings,they don't lie.
Wouldn't call them huge ratings though, just less bad.
I actually said something about The Challenge at work last night and I was blown away by how many of my coworkers actually watch it. Most casually, one or two diehards. The general consensus? Every single one of them said that the show would be so much better if the old schoolers came back.
It's nice to see your ancedotal evidence consisting of a sample size of what? 10-20 is an accurate reflection of the half a million people who watch the show.
The Challenge blows now, is gimmicky, and steals ideas from better reality competition shows and still fails. No wonder they were quick to film two this year, milking the cash cow before they pull the plug.
You're clearly biased. Good day.
And yet that doesn't change the fact that everything I said was completely true. LOL.
And I never said you weren't. I was just saying, which I'm not wrong about either. You clearly hold a biased towards Survivor over The Challenge, and I truly doubt you would say anything like you did if the ratings had been better than Survivor's.
I don't think bananas has that big of an effect on the ratings. He's in bloodlines atm which is doing worse than BOTS. It might just be the format. FM, BOTS and bloodlines have one thing in common :- 50%+ are newbies.
I don't see the big deal for Sylvia. she was never funny, everything she contributed to her season was negative. like LITERALLY everything negative.
Vi has potential. she was somewhat of a flop, but she has potential.
Now Lurker it would mean the world to me if you would reply to Witty's comment and slay the **** out of Vi and Sylvia.
Quiet, Sylvia was the best thing to come out of that season, and I think she has a lot of potential on these challenges. I like Violetta, but I feel like she was a little try-hard.
Madison was the best thing from Skeletons. Sylvia brought drama but she was always negative. All I remember from her is chokeholding Madison, shouting hysterically at everyone in the house, having a useless boss from '****', her lustful ***** affair with Bruno. She wasn't funny either. Like she was not good at all. Tell me one positive thing about Sylvia. For me she is due candy cuz I'm attracted to hispanic women. But nothing else has been positive.
She was loyal to Violetta. BOOM there you have it.
And you like Zach who's awful, so yeah...
Loyal enough to assault a human being.
Zach is an athlete who performed elite on FA missions and made funny jokes on his seasons. That's why I like him. What he did to Jonna was jacked up, but he's making up.
I don't see the big deal for Sylvia. she was never funny, everything she contributed to her season was negative. like LITERALLY everything negative.
Vi has potential. she was somewhat of a flop, but she has potential.
Now Lurker it would mean the world to me if you would reply to Witty's comment and slay the **** out of Vi and Sylvia.
Quiet, Sylvia was the best thing to come out of that season, and I think she has a lot of potential on these challenges. I like Violetta, but I feel like she was a little try-hard.
Madison was the best thing from Skeletons. Sylvia brought drama but she was always negative. All I remember from her is chokeholding Madison, shouting hysterically at everyone in the house, having a useless boss from '****', her lustful ***** affair with Bruno. She wasn't funny either. Like she was not good at all. Tell me one positive thing about Sylvia. For me she is due candy cuz I'm attracted to hispanic women. But nothing else has been positive.
There was nothing interesting about Madison either. She had the same storyline over and over again. Nothing different than what I've seen before. Sylvia and Violetta were more entertaining than she was. And just because they didn't go through "growth", don't mean the two of them were bad either. Not many people are going to get on this show and start changing. Madison just pined after Tony, fought with him when his exes came, and looked a fool.
The difference is Violetta had character growth and was actually funny.
Or she knows she can watch it online in the next few days...? Like even I've missed a Challenge episode here and there because I've had schoolwork to do instead. Like I don't understand why you don't understand this lol. It's not like that's the ONLY chance to see it.
You've completely missed the point. Mickey came in here with the college finals being a excuse for the ratings being low which is bullshit. Like I said that if they were "die-hard" fans and really wanted to see it that bad they would have turned on the television. Obviously if you put your school work first The Challenge isn't a high priority on your list. This is quite simple.
No it's not it's the same point. You can be a Challenge die-hard and miss an episode. 3 to 1 so #sorrynotsorry.
I don't think bananas has that big of an effect on the ratings. He's in bloodlines atm which is doing worse than BOTS. It might just be the format. FM, BOTS and bloodlines have one thing in common :- 50%+ are newbies.
But you cannot compare battle of the seasons 2 rating with bloodlines ratings without talking about the network ratings a whole during both times.
Battle of the seasons air at the time that teen mom,Buckwild and Jersey show were pulling 3.0 for the networs. Getting .9-1.0 was really low ratings compare to the shows at the time.
Now days teen mom is pulling 1.0 and the other shows of the networks are pulling .3-.5. The challenge was their most watched show of the week with those low ratings. Which I hope MTV find a way to increase traffic to their network
Yeah he does something for the ratings (slick) but not really. Have him not show up a season and the show will go on IMO.
But what happened with Battle of the Seasons... #OOPS
I don't care what anyone says, we needed the cast for Seasons.
It's BMP'S fault for making the audience think the show was all about JEK/CT/Paula.
Sadly we'll never get a cast like that again.
Truth. Seasons would've done so much better had production not overused those idiots. They made it so this show can't survive without certain people and that's a **** shame.
I don't see the big deal for Sylvia. she was never funny, everything she contributed to her season was negative. like LITERALLY everything negative.
Vi has potential. she was somewhat of a flop, but she has potential.
Now Lurker it would mean the world to me if you would reply to Witty's comment and slay the **** out of Vi and Sylvia.
Quiet, Sylvia was the best thing to come out of that season, and I think she has a lot of potential on these challenges. I like Violetta, but I feel like she was a little try-hard.
Madison was the best thing from Skeletons. Sylvia brought drama but she was always negative. All I remember from her is chokeholding Madison, shouting hysterically at everyone in the house, having a useless boss from '****', her lustful ***** affair with Bruno. She wasn't funny either. Like she was not good at all. Tell me one positive thing about Sylvia. For me she is due candy cuz I'm attracted to hispanic women. But nothing else has been positive.
She was loyal to Violetta. BOOM there you have it.
And you like Zach who's awful, so yeah...
Loyal enough to assault a human being. Zach is an athlete who performed elite on FA missions and made funny jokes on his seasons. That's why I like him. What he did to Jonna was jacked up, but he's making up.
I was clearly joking about the being loyal part. But why is her hooking up with Bruno a negative thing? I mean, Bruno is a ******, but because she slept with him she's a horible person? And I think she handled her boss well, Violetta was the one being extra. The only thing she did I don't agree with is chokeholding Madison and I think she should have apologized. But she's not that bad and she made for goot television, so she can come back anytime she wants.
And yeah, Zach was only tolerable on Free Agents. On all the other seasons he was terrible.
This seasons theme and cast really doesn't interest me a whole lot. I will watch because this is my show but man I think they could have tried something a lot more exciting from a competitve stand point. I do think the ratings system is rather archaeic though, especially with the younger 12-24 corwd. Many of the kids under 20 I know don't even watch tv at all, everything is streamed from hulu, netfliux, youtube, or twitch. As time goes on I think the younger crows will get further and further away from tuning into shows at a sheduled time. The show may be doing okay if they could use other ways to measure viewership and make revenue off of those. MAybe MTV should look into makinga bigger online streaming presence.
I don't see the big deal for Sylvia. she was never funny, everything she contributed to her season was negative. like LITERALLY everything negative.
Vi has potential. she was somewhat of a flop, but she has potential.
Now Lurker it would mean the world to me if you would reply to Witty's comment and slay the **** out of Vi and Sylvia.
Quiet, Sylvia was the best thing to come out of that season, and I think she has a lot of potential on these challenges. I like Violetta, but I feel like she was a little try-hard.
Madison was the best thing from Skeletons. Sylvia brought drama but she was always negative. All I remember from her is chokeholding Madison, shouting hysterically at everyone in the house, having a useless boss from '****', her lustful ***** affair with Bruno. She wasn't funny either. Like she was not good at all. Tell me one positive thing about Sylvia. For me she is due candy cuz I'm attracted to hispanic women. But nothing else has been positive.
She was loyal to Violetta. BOOM there you have it.
And you like Zach who's awful, so yeah...
Loyal enough to assault a human being. Zach is an athlete who performed elite on FA missions and made funny jokes on his seasons. That's why I like him. What he did to Jonna was jacked up, but he's making up.
I was clearly joking about the being loyal part. But why is her hooking up with Bruno a negative thing? I mean, Bruno is a ******, but because she slept with him she's a horible person? And I think she handled her boss well, Violetta was the one being extra. The only thing she did I don't agree with is chokeholding Madison and I think she should have apologized. But she's not that bad and she made for goot television, so she can come back anytime she wants.
And yeah, Zach was only tolerable on Free Agents. On all the other seasons he was terrible.
I mean the way she interacted with Bruno afterwards was terrible.
Zach wasn't too bad on Rivals 2.
Even with a stellar cast I just don't see this show doing well anymore. They could bring Coral, Beth, Veronica, etc but I don't think much would change. The original core audience has moved on much like the older cast members & there are way more entertaining shows on tv nowadays.
It went up a little lol http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-wednesday-c... It did average in all the demographics except in the P 50 years old +. Over average on the P (18-34) and F(12-34) demographics. Once again the most watched show on MTV this week (Not counting the one airing on MTV tonight)
Well that's good. Still going strong(or what would qualify as strong at this poing in MTV).
Not to mention fresh meat 2 that also tanked in the ratings got some of the worst ratings in history as well for the show. Which Bananas happened to take another small break for that one.
I've asked myself why Awkward and Faking It wasn't cancelled after one season.
Times like this on MTV make you miss the era where The Challenge and Real World aired with The Hills, Cribs, Next, Room Raiders, and Made.
UGH YES
Exactly! Jersey shore was around and that show with teen mom was averaging 3.0-3.5. Now days mtv more popular show Teen mom now days pulls around .9-1.2 .
Now an average of an mtv show is .5-.9 there is no comparission, how much ratings on MTV have gone down the hill. MTV is dying as a network.
And yet that doesn't change the fact that everything I said was completely true. LOL.
True but that was then. This is now and now I think they can afford for him to not show up. If anything CT is more important.
CT or Bananas will be on. CT's not willing to spend 6 weeks filming right now. There will not be a challenge without Bananas until CT's stance chances. Seasons ended any possibility of that ever happening.
I have said this before can you imagine the ratings if Bananas wasn't there?Just look at last seasons ratings the 2 weeks where he was featured before he got eliminated had huge numbers than the 3 weeks after he got eliminated the numbers went down drastically, the week he returns huge ratings again.The proof is in the pudding,go check last years ratings,they don't lie.
I've asked myself why Awkward and Faking It wasn't cancelled after one season.
Times like this on MTV make you miss the era where The Challenge and Real World aired with The Hills, Cribs, Next, Room Raiders, and Made.
That's still going on? I thought that was cancled. And I also thought Awkward was done too.
Wouldn't call them huge ratings though, just less bad.
That's still going on? I thought that was cancled. And I also thought Awkward was done too.
There is another season for each of those show and bothbhave gone down to the .3-.7 territory too
And I never said you weren't. I was just saying, which I'm not wrong about either. You clearly hold a biased towards Survivor over The Challenge, and I truly doubt you would say anything like you did if the ratings had been better than Survivor's.
I don't think bananas has that big of an effect on the ratings. He's in bloodlines atm which is doing worse than BOTS. It might just be the format. FM, BOTS and bloodlines have one thing in common :- 50%+ are newbies.
I don't care what anyone says, we needed the cast for Seasons.
It's BMP'S fault for making the audience think the show was all about JEK/CT/Paula.
Sadly we'll never get a cast like that again.
Loyal enough to assault a human being.
Zach is an athlete who performed elite on FA missions and made funny jokes on his seasons. That's why I like him. What he did to Jonna was jacked up, but he's making up.
The difference is Violetta had character growth and was actually funny.
No it's not it's the same point. You can be a Challenge die-hard and miss an episode. 3 to 1 so #sorrynotsorry.
I've asked myself why Awkward and Faking It wasn't cancelled after one season.
Times like this on MTV make you miss the era where The Challenge and Real World aired with The Hills, Cribs, Next, Room Raiders, and Made.
Room Raiders sucked.
But you cannot compare battle of the seasons 2 rating with bloodlines ratings without talking about the network ratings a whole during both times.
Battle of the seasons air at the time that teen mom,Buckwild and Jersey show were pulling 3.0 for the networs. Getting .9-1.0 was really low ratings compare to the shows at the time.
Now days teen mom is pulling 1.0 and the other shows of the networks are pulling .3-.5. The challenge was their most watched show of the week with those low ratings. Which I hope MTV find a way to increase traffic to their network
Room Raiders sucked.
And the Hills and Cribs sucked as well.
Truth. Seasons would've done so much better had production not overused those idiots. They made it so this show can't survive without certain people and that's a **** shame.
I was clearly joking about the being loyal part. But why is her hooking up with Bruno a negative thing? I mean, Bruno is a ******, but because she slept with him she's a horible person? And I think she handled her boss well, Violetta was the one being extra. The only thing she did I don't agree with is chokeholding Madison and I think she should have apologized. But she's not that bad and she made for goot television, so she can come back anytime she wants.
And yeah, Zach was only tolerable on Free Agents. On all the other seasons he was terrible.
This seasons theme and cast really doesn't interest me a whole lot. I will watch because this is my show but man I think they could have tried something a lot more exciting from a competitve stand point. I do think the ratings system is rather archaeic though, especially with the younger 12-24 corwd. Many of the kids under 20 I know don't even watch tv at all, everything is streamed from hulu, netfliux, youtube, or twitch. As time goes on I think the younger crows will get further and further away from tuning into shows at a sheduled time. The show may be doing okay if they could use other ways to measure viewership and make revenue off of those. MAybe MTV should look into makinga bigger online streaming presence.
I mean the way she interacted with Bruno afterwards was terrible.
Zach wasn't too bad on Rivals 2.
I'm gonna stop responding lol.
I've asked myself why Awkward and Faking It wasn't cancelled after one season.
Times like this on MTV make you miss the era where The Challenge and Real World aired with The Hills, Cribs, Next, Room Raiders, and Made.
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That show was amazing. If there's any show that MTV needs to bring back it's that one(or Road Rules).
Even with a stellar cast I just don't see this show doing well anymore. They could bring Coral, Beth, Veronica, etc but I don't think much would change. The original core audience has moved on much like the older cast members & there are way more entertaining shows on tv nowadays.
It went up a little lol
http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-wednesday-c...
It did average in all the demographics except in the P 50 years old +.
Over average on the P (18-34) and F(12-34) demographics.
Once again the most watched show on MTV this week (Not counting the one airing on MTV tonight)
Well that's good. Still going strong(or what would qualify as strong at this poing in MTV).
I have a feeling the ratings will be even higher next week after the "plot twist".
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