I'm willing to become an escort for BMP if it means saving the show. Jk the show was already dying but I'm wondering what it'd take to save it.
I fear the spy/international era ruined it. The editing became tragic and has stayed tragic. People didn't connect with the international cast. The formats were boring and stale. And there were too many episodes that were all 90 minutes. There wasn't enough content especially with their woke editing to keep fans engaged.
I'm willing to become an escort for BMP if it means saving the show. Jk the show was already dying but I'm wondering what it'd take to save it.
I fear the spy/international era ruined it. The editing became tragic and has stayed tragic. People didn't connect with the international cast. The formats were boring and stale. And there were too many episodes that were all 90 minutes. There wasn't enough content especially with their woke editing to keep fans engaged.
the overall tone got darker - made the show less fun - when it was more light hearted it was more fun. There was some of that in all stars over the main series but they really should go back to that. Especially from WOTW 1 on that tone turned that way.
I'm willing to become an escort for BMP if it means saving the show. Jk the show was already dying but I'm wondering what it'd take to save it.
I fear the spy/international era ruined it. The editing became tragic and has stayed tragic. People didn't connect with the international cast. The formats were boring and stale. And there were too many episodes that were all 90 minutes. There wasn't enough content especially with their woke editing to keep fans engaged.
this is very true. I also just dont think its entertaining anymore. Nobody really has charisma. The vets are all friends (yet we dont even get to see any fun- and Im not talking those stupid slow mo dancing scenes they do) and only fight for a preconceived storyline. They dont usually hook up, but if they do, its usually off camera so no storyline there. They all vote the same way so theres no friction there. And lets be real, majority of these vets are not bringing in any interesting storylines, and havent for years.
i am actually excited for the rookies this season though, they got some personality to them
They also utterly failed to develop a new generation post-Vendettas. WOTW1's rookie class failing to thrive is sad because they were so promising. But there's also like 7 rookie classes in and around there that were clearly 90% fodder from the jump. There's also not a single Challenge star under the age of 30. That's not just sad, it's pathetic.
Not that long ago it felt like the challenge was over saturated with so many spinoffs at once. Now with them filming one every year that isn't a good sign.
I will say Bananas, Cara, and Paulie missing out/delaying major paychecks for them somewhat due to their support for their boy is hilarious and satisfying.
Not that long ago it felt like the challenge was over saturated with so many spinoffs at once. Now with them filming one every year that isn't a good sign.
7 seasons filmed in 19 months just 3 years ago. Now it'll be one (41) in nearly that same timespan. Not good at all.
I'm willing to become an escort for BMP if it means saving the show. Jk the show was already dying but I'm wondering what it'd take to save it.
I fear the spy/international era ruined it. The editing became tragic and has stayed tragic. People didn't connect with the international cast. The formats were boring and stale. And there were too many episodes that were all 90 minutes. There wasn't enough content especially with their woke editing to keep fans engaged.
Not that long ago it felt like the challenge was over saturated with so many spinoffs at once. Now with them filming one every year that isn't a good sign.
7 seasons filmed in 19 months just 3 years ago. Now it'll be one (41) in nearly that same timespan. Not good at all.
it's gone through this before though - during the inferno 3 era I remember cast members being vocal about how it was going to be canceled and then it had a resurgence. If a company is going through a major command change it makes sense things will slow down, hopefully they pop back up again
I do. I know the legit meaning and what it's evolved into. It means they become worried about offending anyone and they became super soft trying to edit out any drama and prevent fights even though that's what brings drama. However their true racism was exposed by giving Esther a warning for doing the least and kicking off Fessy and painting him as an aggressive Muslim when it was Josh who was the aggressor and invading his space and wouldn't leave him alone even when Fessy asked.
That definition of woke is closer to how right-wingers use the word, btw.
And, as for Esther, they gave Melissa a fine when she threw a drink on Ravyn, so I don't think that works. What the focus should be on was the fans being so damn racist that they attacked an Esther from an entirely different season after it happened. But no one ever calls shit like that out, but had it been some white girl throwing a slur and getting called out, you'd be first to use the word "woke" and how the left needs to stop watching reality TV.
I'm willing to become an escort for BMP if it means saving the show. Jk the show was already dying but I'm wondering what it'd take to save it.
I fear the spy/international era ruined it. The editing became tragic and has stayed tragic. People didn't connect with the international cast. The formats were boring and stale. And there were too many episodes that were all 90 minutes. There wasn't enough content especially with their woke editing to keep fans engaged.
I do. I know the legit meaning and what it's evolved into. It means they become worried about offending anyone and they became super soft trying to edit out any drama and prevent fights even though that's what brings drama. However their true racism was exposed by giving Esther a warning for doing the least and kicking off Fessy and painting him as an aggressive Muslim when it was Josh who was the aggressor and invading his space and wouldn't leave him alone even when Fessy asked.
No woke literally means being aware of racial and sexual discrimination. Thats almost the exact definition
Doesn't mean worry about not offending people. Right wingers use it cause they need a new edgy word so whenever they r upset about something they jus scream it at the top of their lungs. A black person wins an award...woke. A woman gets a job...woke. ppl who use it this way r literally the dumbest pieces of shit on the planet
I'm willing to become an escort for BMP if it means saving the show. Jk the show was already dying but I'm wondering what it'd take to save it.
I fear the spy/international era ruined it. The editing became tragic and has stayed tragic. People didn't connect with the international cast. The formats were boring and stale. And there were too many episodes that were all 90 minutes. There wasn't enough content especially with their woke editing to keep fans engaged.
I'll never understand what they were thinking bringing internationals who barely knew the language and didn't understand/know the show at all.
MTV internationals were great! After that it all went to ***.
Kyle, Joss, Kayliegh, Melissa, Dee - A
Ashley C, Zahida, - B
Everyone after that - D/F
It's all good cuz American gladiators on prime can replace it
the overall tone got darker - made the show less fun - when it was more light hearted it was more fun. There was some of that in all stars over the main series but they really should go back to that. Especially from WOTW 1 on that tone turned that way.
this is very true. I also just dont think its entertaining anymore. Nobody really has charisma. The vets are all friends (yet we dont even get to see any fun- and Im not talking those stupid slow mo dancing scenes they do) and only fight for a preconceived storyline. They dont usually hook up, but if they do, its usually off camera so no storyline there. They all vote the same way so theres no friction there. And lets be real, majority of these vets are not bringing in any interesting storylines, and havent for years.
i am actually excited for the rookies this season though, they got some personality to them
They also utterly failed to develop a new generation post-Vendettas. WOTW1's rookie class failing to thrive is sad because they were so promising. But there's also like 7 rookie classes in and around there that were clearly 90% fodder from the jump. There's also not a single Challenge star under the age of 30. That's not just sad, it's pathetic.
The show has matured and gotten stale..
Im surprised it even lasted 5 seasons bc the plot was lost long ago... when you start casting people like ashley k and big t and many others
I was told both were pushed to next year
Yikes
as long as they're not cancelled
Ugh. Sad. Digusted.
Minimum 6 months next year with no Challenge.
Probably not even early 2026 yikes *CHALLENGE EMERGENCY*
Not that long ago it felt like the challenge was over saturated with so many spinoffs at once. Now with them filming one every year that isn't a good sign.
I will say Bananas, Cara, and Paulie missing out/delaying major paychecks for them somewhat due to their support for their boy is hilarious and satisfying.
The challenge lasts longer than big brother nowadays
7 seasons filmed in 19 months just 3 years ago. Now it'll be one (41) in nearly that same timespan. Not good at all.
It sucks that the flagship FINALLY had potential and a solid rookie class and now it's lost all momentum.
Let's hope Sydney and Michaela can get some Traitors momentum.
I dont think u know what woke means
it's gone through this before though - during the inferno 3 era I remember cast members being vocal about how it was going to be canceled and then it had a resurgence. If a company is going through a major command change it makes sense things will slow down, hopefully they pop back up again
this <3
I do. I know the legit meaning and what it's evolved into. It means they become worried about offending anyone and they became super soft trying to edit out any drama and prevent fights even though that's what brings drama. However their true racism was exposed by giving Esther a warning for doing the least and kicking off Fessy and painting him as an aggressive Muslim when it was Josh who was the aggressor and invading his space and wouldn't leave him alone even when Fessy asked.
That definition of woke is closer to how right-wingers use the word, btw.
And, as for Esther, they gave Melissa a fine when she threw a drink on Ravyn, so I don't think that works. What the focus should be on was the fans being so damn racist that they attacked an Esther from an entirely different season after it happened. But no one ever calls shit like that out, but had it been some white girl throwing a slur and getting called out, you'd be first to use the word "woke" and how the left needs to stop watching reality TV.
Huh?
Ugh
No woke literally means being aware of racial and sexual discrimination. Thats almost the exact definition
Doesn't mean worry about not offending people. Right wingers use it cause they need a new edgy word so whenever they r upset about something they jus scream it at the top of their lungs. A black person wins an award...woke. A woman gets a job...woke. ppl who use it this way r literally the dumbest pieces of shit on the planet
Pages