The Challenge: All Stars 4- Episode Discussion Thread

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I'm glad I don't have the mind of a 13 year old that finds pointless drama, mental illness, and racism entertaining anymore. Go ahead and hype that behavior up under Ayanna's socials I hope it serves you right. This thread pissed me off. I'm not posting anymore bye. And don't dm me either oldschoolfreak. This website sucks this show is boring, survivor is boring, and kvm is my rl husband I'm his black wife. Goodbye vevmo logging out for real now. I have zero desire to return. 

you've been on this board for like 30 years and ayanna being annoying for a single episode is the final straw?

 

not a 30 year old vevmo vet

I fear it is indeed time for retirement ❤️

First two episodes are pretty solid. I'd imagine better than the main show surely. In general reality tv has gotten so bad that I consider All Stars the best of the worst.  

First, Flora was made for uncensored reality tv. Her confessionals were gold. And even seeing her in scenes where others are talking was edited out of BOT Seasons.  

They won me over with Nu Shooz "I Can't Wait" playing while Flora and Jas were "yaaaaying", great way to start the show off!

Was Jay always this hot?  This show's lack of hot men (John? Fessy? Vyle, Cory? Ugh) to lust over was really brought to light when I was loving over having someone to fawn over. I would totally let Jay hit it  

y'all wanna say Averey is the queen of warming up when Ryan and Derick are there?  I keep thinking that maybe they did something this season to warrant their invites to 40 but yet again they delivered nothing.

Ayanna served as always,  I thought Veronica's smirk was her laughing about everyone else getting to experience what she's gone thru with Ayanna in the past  

Tina is likely the sidekick to Ayanna stirring the pot but does anyone else think it could be Rachel?

I was interested in seeing how they would edit the entire Ayanna/Janelle situation.  I'm glad they showed some of Ayanna being crazy was afraid it would've been edited out due to her current health situation.  

Adam saying missions and the Mean girls correcting him was so wholesome and cute. I'm glad Adam quit when he did he had the potential to be the original Johnny Bananas back in the day, now he's back & I'm happy to see him.  Also just realized that in that scene Tina was the only one who didn't win the Gauntlet with Veronica, Rachel and Adam, sucks that Tina still has yet to win 

I've always had this love/hate relationship with Leroy.  I think I could've done without him This season he's suffering from main character syndrome and trying too hard to be like John

Kefla Hare. Yes I have watched every season he's done. He's always had this unique personality that is coming thru this season already  I'm glad he's getting his camera time 

And man is Road Rules represented well this season, what are there 8 of them there?

 

Do y'all feel like Kam is playing this season more for Leroy than herself?

 

An entirely rational decision on her part,the last 2 times they had 1 winner (S39 and AS1) A dude won.  It's very likely  the final challenge this time will also more likely be won by a dude.

I think Kam has more of a chance at winning than Leroy and I think she knows that but won't say it. 

Do y'all feel like Kam is playing this season more for Leroy than herself?

 

An entirely rational decision on her part,the last 2 times they had 1 winner (S39 and AS1) A dude won.  It's very likely  the final challenge this time will also more likely be won by a dude.

Okay I'm sorry but Tina being given a free pass to steal a star is totally BS - like just let her go back to the house with no penalty, being able to still a star unearned is so annoying. 

Like in All Stars 2 she also just got to inherit a star due to her opponent quitting, but at least Melinda was the one she was supposed to face. Idk just doesn't sit well with me, and I would be pissed if I were Averey - but at least it's still so early   

Tina definitely deserved her star! She intimidated 2 brolics out of going into elimination.

I still don't understand why Genesis wasn't brought in to face Tina. Imagine them all being at the elimination and then Genesis being brought out as a surprise opponent for Tina.

I still don't understand why Genesis wasn't brought in to face Tina. Imagine them all being at the elimination and then Genesis being brought out as a surprise opponent for Tina.

Nah. Glad Tina got a free ride. Genesis just should have been cast over Nicole.

Credit to jaychallenge1.  But Veronica during the Leroy/Ayanna fight.

So they showed the Ayanna drama?

So they showed the Ayanna drama?

We didn't get any of the controversial stuff, but there was still drama shown 

So they showed the Ayanna drama?

None of the controversial stuff. Just a watered down version of her being unhinged. But the edit made Janelle look like a punk

I think Tina was the sidekick, I rewatched the episode and she was definitely stirring it up.

 

also I think ayanna zeroed in on janelle during the daily. She had a confessional about keeping her eye on her. 

 

also I dont think anyone mentioned it but I liked the nods to past challenges in the daily. "Julies thrashing carabiner" "petes gelato"

What was Pete's gelato?  Is that someone from Fresh Meat?

Pete was from fresh meat, but I thought it was the name of the ice cream place from gauntlet one...but then again that was ice cream, not gelato if I remember correctly so maybe I'm wrong

I think Tina was the sidekick, I rewatched the episode and she was definitely stirring it up.

 

also I think ayanna zeroed in on janelle during the daily. She had a confessional about keeping her eye on her. 

 

also I dont think anyone mentioned it but I liked the nods to past challenges in the daily. "Julies thrashing carabiner" "petes gelato"

I know this would never happen. But Julie being on the challenge (say she replaced Nicole) would have made it even more amazing.

Allegedly

Can one of the few tori fans please recap the podcast episode for us?love to hear what tina has to say

Allegedly

If that's what happened kinda glad that didn't air because the discourse following would've been annoying as hell.

I'M TIRED OF RUMORS STARTING

Biggest surprise: Averey is not actually that invisible so far! The only one that's "forgot they were here" status right now is Ace.

Any links for ep 2?

Maybe Janelle is MAGA or said something that upset Ayanna. We don't know the whole story. Ayanna is a cool person I think there's more to Ayanna just randomly attacking her on her race.

Any links for ep 2?

I got you homie.

welp Kam said on her podcast that Janelle definitely wanted Jaz and hinted at it but Ayanna blew it out of proportion and that's how we got the drama.

If I were Janelle I'd want to beat Jasmine too.  Jasmine is filler material, and an easy first boot.

I generally enjoy Ayanna and she made these eps more interesting than they might have been, but kinda like....making up the lie is one thing, but then going to the whole group to tell them that Janelle is manipulating/gaslighting felt like..ugly. Not in a fun silly reality tv show, just plain ugly.

Ayanna might be cool but she's also infamously difficult to get along with, and has a history of off-putting behavior, and it seems the house generally was supportive of Janelle, so ... I mean...

Maybe Janelle is MAGA or said something that upset Ayanna. We don't know the whole story. Ayanna is a cool person I think there's more to Ayanna just randomly attacking her on her race.

Cool people do shitty things all the time.

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