The problem with individual bank accounts is they hardly end up paying out any of them in the end so it all feels pointless. The fact that even half the people who made the final in Vendettas didn't get paid out pissed me off.
That was the only good part of Vendettas. Tony going home with nothing...like he deserved.
Also please give us more eliminations that cater to smaller players or at least give them a fighting chance. Seeing a size different is unfair and not fun whatsoever.
More holding your breathe is spoiled milk and jump roping with itching cream eliminations please.
do the casuals want to see those kind of elims in the modern era though? Aint this america's 5th sport according to them lol
Also please give us more eliminations that cater to smaller players or at least give them a fighting chance. Seeing a size different is unfair and not fun whatsoever.
More holding your breathe is spoiled milk and jump roping with itching cream eliminations please.
do the casuals want to see those kind of elims in the modern era though? Aint this america's 5th sport according to them lol
They don't know what they want. They talk about wanting physical eliminations and then call Rogan a bully and say they should have disqualified him for demolishing Jay on Total Madness
The prize pot is bigger than it's ever been. Go back to giving them money for winning dailies, and more team 1st place winners. No one person should get $750k.
that 750k is basically almost cut in half after taxes tho lol
That's inevitable. They used to split winnings back in the day (see Duel 2) to eliminate some taxes.
The money really is the appearance checks. I'm still waiting for someone to leak what everyone's pay is. The numbers Wes gave don't add up.
Wes generally lies. On average cast member making 100k from the apperance checks + stipend? No way the cast budget was 4 million. That's insane. The Survivor runner up gets 100k and that's on a network show with 10 times the viewership.
It probably ranges from Bananas/CT making 120k down to Averey/Aviv/Brandon making 30k.
Wes generally lies. On average cast member making 100k from the apperance checks + stipend? No way the cast budget was 4 million. That's insane. The Survivor runner up gets 100k and that's on a network show with 10 times the viewership.
It probably ranges from Bananas/CT making 120k down to Averey/Aviv/Brandon making 30k.
Honestly a budget of 4M for, what, 20 episodes, is nothing
Wes generally lies. On average cast member making 100k from the apperance checks + stipend? No way the cast budget was 4 million. That's insane. The Survivor runner up gets 100k and that's on a network show with 10 times the viewership.
It probably ranges from Bananas/CT making 120k down to Averey/Aviv/Brandon making 30k.
Honestly a budget of 4M for, what, 20 episodes, is nothing
They're not spending 4 million on these people....
Trishelle even said she only got offered like 25k for 40.
Like I said, we know that the runner up on a network television show with 10x the viewership only gets 100k. That's the baseline.
Wes generally lies. On average cast member making 100k from the apperance checks + stipend? No way the cast budget was 4 million. That's insane. The Survivor runner up gets 100k and that's on a network show with 10 times the viewership.
It probably ranges from Bananas/CT making 120k down to Averey/Aviv/Brandon making 30k.
Honestly a budget of 4M for, what, 20 episodes, is nothing
They're not spending 4 million on these people....
Trishelle even said she only got offered like 25k for 40.
Like I said, we know that the runner up on a network television show with 10x the viewership only gets 100k. That's the baseline.
25k to show up then money on top of that--Trishelle isn't a priority and hasn't done many seasons. She's going to be on the low end. I also don't believe anything Trishelle says given she did AS1
Wes generally lies. On average cast member making 100k from the apperance checks + stipend? No way the cast budget was 4 million. That's insane. The Survivor runner up gets 100k and that's on a network show with 10 times the viewership.
It probably ranges from Bananas/CT making 120k down to Averey/Aviv/Brandon making 30k.
Honestly a budget of 4M for, what, 20 episodes, is nothing
They're not spending 4 million on these people....
Trishelle even said she only got offered like 25k for 40.
Like I said, we know that the runner up on a network television show with 10x the viewership only gets 100k. That's the baseline.
Survivor is usually newbies though. Why give out bigger checks than necessary? When they did do returning players, 40 specifically, they were shelling out 6 figure checks as well to get back who they wanted.
I'd say look at CW shows which don't get a lot of viewership either, you still have actors getting paid like 100k an episode, over 2 million a season. Probably over 10 million just on the cast and then actually making the show is way more expensive than a reality show, and the CW shows may only get like double the viewership as The Challenge does
Survivor is usually newbies though. Why give out bigger checks than necessary? When they did do returning players, 40 specifically, they were shelling out 6 figure checks as well to get back who they wanted.
I'd say look at CW shows which don't get a lot of viewership either, you still have actors getting paid like 100k an episode, over 2 million a season. Probably over 10 million just on the cast and then actually making the show is way more expensive than a reality show, and the CW shows may only get like double the viewership as The Challenge does
A CW show is probably paying the top 3-4 stars 100k an episode and the rest a third/quarter of that.
They saved half a million on 39 with the prize money reduction and another half million on the small rookie cast. That million clearly was used on this super-sized 40 cast.
If I had to guess, Season 39 probably had a total budget of around 4 million: 500kish prize pot, 1 million in appearance fees, 2.5 million in location, housing, challenges, crew, equipment, etc. And Season 40 was probably around 5.5-6 million with most of that additional 1.5-2 mil going towards appearance fees/prize pot.
Survivor is usually newbies though. Why give out bigger checks than necessary? When they did do returning players, 40 specifically, they were shelling out 6 figure checks as well to get back who they wanted.
I'd say look at CW shows which don't get a lot of viewership either, you still have actors getting paid like 100k an episode, over 2 million a season. Probably over 10 million just on the cast and then actually making the show is way more expensive than a reality show, and the CW shows may only get like double the viewership as The Challenge does
A CW show is probably paying the top 3-4 stars 100k an episode and the rest a third/quarter of that.
They saved half a million on 39 with the prize money reduction and another half million on the small rookie cast. That million clearly was used on this super-sized 40 cast.
If I had to guess, Season 39 probably had a total budget of around 4 million: 500kish prize pot, 1 million in appearance fees, 2.5 million in location, housing, challenges, crew, equipment, etc. And Season 40 was probably around 5.5-6 million with most of that additional 1.5-2 mil going towards appearance fees/prize pot.
So they're paying 2.2M for 22 episode first 1 actor. It's not crazy to think The Challenge has a decent enough budget to their 20+ episodes.
Wes generally lies. On average cast member making 100k from the apperance checks + stipend? No way the cast budget was 4 million. That's insane. The Survivor runner up gets 100k and that's on a network show with 10 times the viewership.
It probably ranges from Bananas/CT making 120k down to Averey/Aviv/Brandon making 30k.
Are those numbers for if they make it to the finale or are those just to show up? Cause 30k is a lot for those irrelevants. I'd take it in a heart beat.
I just realized...they have to film a reunion for 40 before 41 can film. And 39 started airing in October and the reunion was filmed in early January, roughly 3/4's of the way into the season. So if this holds true, 40's reunion won't film until mid-to-late October. So either they leave right after or 41 isn't filming this year...
This doesn't essentially matter for All Stars 6/USA3 unless 40 cast members are on those.
I just realized...they have to film a reunion for 40 before 41 can film. And 39 started airing in October and the reunion was filmed in early January, roughly 3/4's of the way into the season. So if this holds true, 40's reunion won't film until mid-to-late October. So either they leave right after or 41 isn't filming this year...
This doesn't essentially matter for All Stars 6/USA3 unless 40 cast members are on those.
Ryan hinted on his IG that the reunion films in early October.
I just realized...they have to film a reunion for 40 before 41 can film. And 39 started airing in October and the reunion was filmed in early January, roughly 3/4's of the way into the season. So if this holds true, 40's reunion won't film until mid-to-late October. So either they leave right after or 41 isn't filming this year...
This doesn't essentially matter for All Stars 6/USA3 unless 40 cast members are on those.
Ryan hinted on his IG that the reunion films in early October.
Ok good, I wonder how many will be on the reunion. Top 32? Or all 40?
Is there anyone you guys want back from like Rivals 1 to TM that's hasn't been back in awhile that is 1.) Willing to return and 2.) Can actually compete?
That was the only good part of Vendettas. Tony going home with nothing...like he deserved.
do the casuals want to see those kind of elims in the modern era though? Aint this america's 5th sport according to them lol
They don't know what they want. They talk about wanting physical eliminations and then call Rogan a bully and say they should have disqualified him for demolishing Jay on Total Madness
That's inevitable. They used to split winnings back in the day (see Duel 2) to eliminate some taxes.
The money really is the appearance checks. I'm still waiting for someone to leak what everyone's pay is. The numbers Wes gave don't add up.
Wes generally lies. On average cast member making 100k from the apperance checks + stipend? No way the cast budget was 4 million. That's insane. The Survivor runner up gets 100k and that's on a network show with 10 times the viewership.
It probably ranges from Bananas/CT making 120k down to Averey/Aviv/Brandon making 30k.
Still pains me they used anyone from Australian Survivor. So many people from that show they can use.
Idk if Tyson is just being petty or he heard something because he seems pretty convinced Challenge USA is dead.
Honestly a budget of 4M for, what, 20 episodes, is nothing
They're not spending 4 million on these people....
Trishelle even said she only got offered like 25k for 40.
Like I said, we know that the runner up on a network television show with 10x the viewership only gets 100k. That's the baseline.
25k to show up then money on top of that--Trishelle isn't a priority and hasn't done many seasons. She's going to be on the low end. I also don't believe anything Trishelle says given she did AS1
Survivor is usually newbies though. Why give out bigger checks than necessary? When they did do returning players, 40 specifically, they were shelling out 6 figure checks as well to get back who they wanted.
I'd say look at CW shows which don't get a lot of viewership either, you still have actors getting paid like 100k an episode, over 2 million a season. Probably over 10 million just on the cast and then actually making the show is way more expensive than a reality show, and the CW shows may only get like double the viewership as The Challenge does
What happened to WesTracked?
A CW show is probably paying the top 3-4 stars 100k an episode and the rest a third/quarter of that.
They saved half a million on 39 with the prize money reduction and another half million on the small rookie cast. That million clearly was used on this super-sized 40 cast.
If I had to guess, Season 39 probably had a total budget of around 4 million: 500kish prize pot, 1 million in appearance fees, 2.5 million in location, housing, challenges, crew, equipment, etc. And Season 40 was probably around 5.5-6 million with most of that additional 1.5-2 mil going towards appearance fees/prize pot.
So they're paying 2.2M for 22 episode first 1 actor. It's not crazy to think The Challenge has a decent enough budget to their 20+ episodes.
he just got up and left
Are those numbers for if they make it to the finale or are those just to show up? Cause 30k is a lot for those irrelevants. I'd take it in a heart beat.
you ran him back off.
lol when I havent fought with him in forever
AMANDA FINALLY HAS NON LAVENDER LADY FRIENDS I HOPE SHE DOES THIS
and of course when amanda finally is liked by most people it's gonna probably be a season with half rookies that don't even know her. i'm dead af
I just realized...they have to film a reunion for 40 before 41 can film. And 39 started airing in October and the reunion was filmed in early January, roughly 3/4's of the way into the season. So if this holds true, 40's reunion won't film until mid-to-late October. So either they leave right after or 41 isn't filming this year...
This doesn't essentially matter for All Stars 6/USA3 unless 40 cast members are on those.
Ryan hinted on his IG that the reunion films in early October.
Ok good, I wonder how many will be on the reunion. Top 32? Or all 40?
Np
Take that to the fantasy thread or I'll lock the thread.
K sorry lol
Lol I'm kidding!
Hi everyone!! <3
We missed you!
Is there anyone you guys want back from like Rivals 1 to TM that's hasn't been back in awhile that is 1.) Willing to return and 2.) Can actually compete?
I'm hoping Rogan and Georgia!
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