You realize a random merge boot like Sydney from survivor has basically the same amount of fans as someone from another country right?
Survivor has 5 million viewers. At least 1/3 of The Challenge viewers probably watch Survivor. So no, that's not accurate. It's also about having these people coming from a small pool of shows so that they can have some power. It's why USA2 was the only decent challenge since WOTW2. Y'all like to argue with me for the sake of arguing but I'm right. You guys clearly never took marketing classes in school.
You realize a random merge boot like Sydney from survivor has basically the same amount of fans as someone from another country right?
Survivor has 5 million viewers. At least 1/3 of The Challenge viewers probably watch Survivor. So no, that's not accurate. It's also about having these people coming from a small pool of shows so that they can have some power. It's why USA2 was the only decent challenge since WOTW2. Y'all like to argue with me for the sake of arguing but I'm right. You guys clearly never took marketing classes in school.
You think they are going to remember a random girl who lost in an episode most fans try to forget? Really? This the hill your dying on?
You realize a random merge boot like Sydney from survivor has basically the same amount of fans as someone from another country right?
Survivor has 5 million viewers. At least 1/3 of The Challenge viewers probably watch Survivor. So no, that's not accurate. It's also about having these people coming from a small pool of shows so that they can have some power. It's why USA2 was the only decent challenge since WOTW2. Y'all like to argue with me for the sake of arguing but I'm right. You guys clearly never took marketing classes in school.
We're not arguing with you for the sake of arguing with you, you're just of a really close-minded opinion in this topic. I understand the thought process of only casting from X amount of shows for gameplay dynamics. That being said it's incredibly ignorant to say that people should ignore good casting choices that don't come from those shows. I feel like you're focusing too much on the labels attached to these people instead of the people themselves.
What's your point? .001% of Challenge fans know BBNaija exist. And even if BBNaija fans cared The Challenge existed, if they tuned in for the 3 episodes their favorites are there is doesn't count towards ratings and demographics for the show. Your favorites from BBNaija are gonna flop every time unless they bring like 10 HG from there...but they aren't. If you personally want to see them cool, but under no scenario does it make sense for the the success of the show to cast from BBNaija, The Mole Germany, Love Island Sweden, etc. They tried it for 5 seasons in a row and it absolutely flopped and y'all are still begging for it? I can't lol.
We're not arguing with you for the sake of arguing with you, you're just of a really close-minded opinion in this topic. I understand the thought process of only casting from X amount of shows for gameplay dynamics. That being said it's incredibly ignorant to say that people should ignore good casting choices that don't come from those shows. I feel like you're focusing too much on the labels attached to these people instead of the people themselves.
What are you talking about? It's not ignorant. We've seen them try casting from 50 shows over and over and it flopped. They cast from 3 shows and Challenge vets on USA2 and we got our first good product. Sorry you wanna see some random person from some random show you like, but likely they will flop and you'll get some boring product with the same vets steamrolling the show. How do you guys not understand that lol?
You're slow. Idc what show a person comes from as long as you bring something to the table. A ***** like Sydney is not a better option than Esther just because she's from Survivor lmao.
You're slow. Idc what show a person comes from as long as you bring something to the table. A ***** like Sydney is not a better option than Esther just because she's from Survivor lmao.
What's your point? .001% of Challenge fans know BBNaija exist. And even if BBNaija fans cared The Challenge existed, if they tuned in for the 3 episodes their favorites are there is doesn't count towards ratings and demographics for the show. Your favorites from BBNaija are gonna flop every time unless they bring like 10 HG from there...but they aren't. If you personally want to see them cool, but under no scenario does it make sense for the the success of the show to cast from BBNaija, The Mole Germany, Love Island Sweden, etc. They tried it for 5 seasons in a row and it absolutely flopped and y'all are still begging for it? I can't lol.
My point is, you're talking about viewership and what people watch. The fact is BBnaija does big numbers, so everything you said is null & void. SLA is an unfair season to judge Tacha and Esther on based on the format.. Shit Michaela Bradshaw was first boot that season, so that says a lot.
You're acting as if they're just slow with 0 grasp of the game and that just isn't true.
Wait let's not open up potential lashings for Esther im on my day off from arguing!
What potential lashings? She won dailies, she did great in her hall brawl against a bigger opponent in which if there wasn't a dumb climbing element, she atleast takes it to round 3 and could've won.
She had drama, screen presence, etc. Esther is literally a great casting choice, love her or hate her, and she shouldn't be "lashed" because she's from Nigeria.. mind you, the same idiot saying all this about Esther and Tacha is the same person that tried to validate Colleen getting a second chance who did nothing on Ride or Dies.
Wait let's not open up potential lashings for Esther im on my day off from arguing!
What potential lashings? She won dailies, she did great in her hall brawl against a bigger opponent in which if there wasn't a dumb climbing element, she atleast takes it to round 3 and could've won.
She had drama, screen presence, etc. Esther is literally a great casting choice, love her or hate her, and she shouldn't be "lashed" because she's from Nigeria.. mind you, the same idiot saying all this about Esther and Tacha is the same person that tried to validate Colleen getting a second chance who did nothing on Ride or Dies.
I know all this my love but people try to deny facts meanwhile they stopped watching the season 3 episode in!
You're slow. Idc what show a person comes from as long as you bring something to the table. A ***** like Sydney is not a better option than Esther just because she's from Survivor lmao.
Clearly you are the slow one for not realizing and seeing that's why the show was in such a downward spiral with the vacation alliance dominating and your randoms flopping unless they are like Emy playing Tory's game.
That literally has nothing to do with Esther tho lmao ! So why compare Esther when she doesn't fit that category. Like GD said, you didn't even watch SLA fr, and if you did you'd know Esther didn't struggle politically or physically and was essentially screwed because Faysal got DQ'd. She was playing a good game that didn't even have anything to do with Tori.
My point is, you're talking about viewership and what people watch. The fact is BBnaija does big numbers, so everything you said is null & void.
Phew. Arguing with someone with zero comprehension and logic skills is tough. Their big numbers have zero impact on US ratings. Bringing people from popular shows in the US does have the ability to impact ratings. It's really not that hard to understand.
Hell if we want survivor ratings people like Sydney & Sami aren't gonna cut it. Let's bring in Ricard or Charlie or Carolyn from 44. They are more well known by fans.
My point is, you're talking about viewership and what people watch. The fact is BBnaija does big numbers, so everything you said is null & void.
Phew. Arguing with someone with zero comprehension and logic skills is tough. Their big numbers have zero impact on US ratings. Bringing people from popular shows in the US does have the ability to impact ratings. It's really not that hard to understand.
The Challenge is a dead show. It doesn't matter who or where they cast from lmao. As evident with BFANC & Eras, there's no solid change in numbers or viewership so you're whole argument means nothing when the statistics don't back that up.
Wait let's not open up potential lashings for Esther im on my day off from arguing!
What potential lashings? She won dailies, she did great in her hall brawl against a bigger opponent in which if there wasn't a dumb climbing element, she atleast takes it to round 3 and could've won.
She had drama, screen presence, etc. Esther is literally a great casting choice, love her or hate her, and she shouldn't be "lashed" because she's from Nigeria.. mind you, the same idiot saying all this about Esther and Tacha is the same person that tried to validate Colleen getting a second chance who did nothing on Ride or Dies.
I said Tacha deserved a 2nd chance, I was wrong. I said Colleen deserved a 2nd chance, I was wrong.
My point is, you're talking about viewership and what people watch. The fact is BBnaija does big numbers, so everything you said is null & void.
Phew. Arguing with someone with zero comprehension and logic skills is tough. Their big numbers have zero impact on US ratings. Bringing people from popular shows in the US does have the ability to impact ratings. It's really not that hard to understand.
The Challenge is a dead show. It doesn't matter who or where they cast from lmao. As evident with BFANC & Eras, there's no solid change in numbers or viewership so you're whole argument means nothing when the statistics don't back that up.
Ratings are better for 40 than 39. It never dropped to an embarrassing .19 rating. 39s ratings did increase when they actually showed some mess and drama. But production doesn't get that. There is a lot they don't get and casting is one of those things.
I agree with OS. If they're casting 16 rookies, they shouldn't be casting them from 14 different shows. Focusing in on a few shows like Survivor, BB, Love Island, etc. would give a much better product as the rookies would come in having pre-existing dynamics with each other. Total Madness gave us Swaggy & Bayleigh's dynamic and we got that big Bayleigh & Kaycee fight due to their pre-existing relationships. It also allows for some resistance to a rookie bloodbath that we got on SLA.
With that being said though, Esther deserved to be on 38 & 39, and is more than needed on 41. she's the best rookie in the last few years
I know all this my love but people try to deny facts meanwhile they stopped watching the season 3 episode in!
Who quit watching 3 episodes in? When you don't have no arguement, just make șħiț up I guess?
Mind you i never put a name on this. I don't know your watching schedule so i can't comment on what you did. I don't doubt that you did watch the entire season tho cause lord knows you have nothing better to do.
Mind you i never put a name on this. I don't know your watching schedule so i can't comment on what you did. I don't doubt that you did watch the entire season tho cause lord knows you have nothing better to do.
You knew who you were addressing. Last full flagship season I watched was Total Madness. But I made it pretty deep with the others. So your point is wrong. This is literally a board for watching The Challenge that you are on here commentating on. So you trying to throw shade on me for watching the show that everyone in this thread does, is hilarious yet embarrassing. You guys want a fight and drama with me so bad. I'm having fun with it, while I truly bother you weirdos. Lol.
Survivor has 5 million viewers. At least 1/3 of The Challenge viewers probably watch Survivor. So no, that's not accurate. It's also about having these people coming from a small pool of shows so that they can have some power. It's why USA2 was the only decent challenge since WOTW2. Y'all like to argue with me for the sake of arguing but I'm right. You guys clearly never took marketing classes in school.
BBNaija pulls in more ratings than that btw.
You think they are going to remember a random girl who lost in an episode most fans try to forget? Really? This the hill your dying on?
We're not arguing with you for the sake of arguing with you, you're just of a really close-minded opinion in this topic. I understand the thought process of only casting from X amount of shows for gameplay dynamics. That being said it's incredibly ignorant to say that people should ignore good casting choices that don't come from those shows. I feel like you're focusing too much on the labels attached to these people instead of the people themselves.
What's your point? .001% of Challenge fans know BBNaija exist. And even if BBNaija fans cared The Challenge existed, if they tuned in for the 3 episodes their favorites are there is doesn't count towards ratings and demographics for the show. Your favorites from BBNaija are gonna flop every time unless they bring like 10 HG from there...but they aren't. If you personally want to see them cool, but under no scenario does it make sense for the the success of the show to cast from BBNaija, The Mole Germany, Love Island Sweden, etc. They tried it for 5 seasons in a row and it absolutely flopped and y'all are still begging for it? I can't lol.
What are you talking about? It's not ignorant. We've seen them try casting from 50 shows over and over and it flopped. They cast from 3 shows and Challenge vets on USA2 and we got our first good product. Sorry you wanna see some random person from some random show you like, but likely they will flop and you'll get some boring product with the same vets steamrolling the show. How do you guys not understand that lol?
missing when love island was still in the casting pool
You're slow. Idc what show a person comes from as long as you bring something to the table. A ***** like Sydney is not a better option than Esther just because she's from Survivor lmao.
Wait let's not open up potential lashings for Esther im on my day off from arguing!
My point is, you're talking about viewership and what people watch. The fact is BBnaija does big numbers, so everything you said is null & void. SLA is an unfair season to judge Tacha and Esther on based on the format.. Shit Michaela Bradshaw was first boot that season, so that says a lot.
You're acting as if they're just slow with 0 grasp of the game and that just isn't true.
What potential lashings? She won dailies, she did great in her hall brawl against a bigger opponent in which if there wasn't a dumb climbing element, she atleast takes it to round 3 and could've won.
She had drama, screen presence, etc. Esther is literally a great casting choice, love her or hate her, and she shouldn't be "lashed" because she's from Nigeria.. mind you, the same idiot saying all this about Esther and Tacha is the same person that tried to validate Colleen getting a second chance who did nothing on Ride or Dies.
I know all this my love but people try to deny facts meanwhile they stopped watching the season 3 episode in!
Clearly you are the slow one for not realizing and seeing that's why the show was in such a downward spiral with the vacation alliance dominating and your randoms flopping unless they are like Emy playing Tory's game.
That literally has nothing to do with Esther tho lmao ! So why compare Esther when she doesn't fit that category. Like GD said, you didn't even watch SLA fr, and if you did you'd know Esther didn't struggle politically or physically and was essentially screwed because Faysal got DQ'd. She was playing a good game that didn't even have anything to do with Tori.
Phew. Arguing with someone with zero comprehension and logic skills is tough. Their big numbers have zero impact on US ratings. Bringing people from popular shows in the US does have the ability to impact ratings. It's really not that hard to understand.
That's another thing too lmao, yall give Tori way too much credit. Tori doesn't run any season the way y'all pretend she does.
Hell if we want survivor ratings people like Sydney & Sami aren't gonna cut it. Let's bring in Ricard or Charlie or Carolyn from 44. They are more well known by fans.
Who quit watching 3 episodes in? When you don't have no arguement, just make șħiț up I guess?
The Challenge is a dead show. It doesn't matter who or where they cast from lmao. As evident with BFANC & Eras, there's no solid change in numbers or viewership so you're whole argument means nothing when the statistics don't back that up.
She does. You are just aren't that bright I guess.
I said Tacha deserved a 2nd chance, I was wrong. I said Colleen deserved a 2nd chance, I was wrong.
I've yet to see a season where Tori was running the game I'm sorry. I'd even say Devin has more pull than Tori.
Tori is just a good competitor. As far as controlling house politics, Tori doesn't do that lmao.
End of discussion.
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I agree with OS. If they're casting 16 rookies, they shouldn't be casting them from 14 different shows. Focusing in on a few shows like Survivor, BB, Love Island, etc. would give a much better product as the rookies would come in having pre-existing dynamics with each other. Total Madness gave us Swaggy & Bayleigh's dynamic and we got that big Bayleigh & Kaycee fight due to their pre-existing relationships. It also allows for some resistance to a rookie bloodbath that we got on SLA.
With that being said though, Esther deserved to be on 38 & 39, and is more than needed on 41. she's the best rookie in the last few years
Mind you i never put a name on this. I don't know your watching schedule so i can't comment on what you did. I don't doubt that you did watch the entire season tho cause lord knows you have nothing better to do.
Ravyn please be on this.
Mind you from what i've observed OS isn't a big Esther hater they're more neutral abt her so why they thought it was about them is sending me loo
You knew who you were addressing. Last full flagship season I watched was Total Madness. But I made it pretty deep with the others. So your point is wrong. This is literally a board for watching The Challenge that you are on here commentating on. So you trying to throw shade on me for watching the show that everyone in this thread does, is hilarious yet embarrassing. You guys want a fight and drama with me so bad. I'm having fun with it, while I truly bother you weirdos. Lol.
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