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[QUOTE=molds13;147189]I watched Pearl Islands a little while ago and it reminded me why I am not a fan of Rupert. The rarrrr yells, the cockiness, the "I can't believe this" when he was voted off, just the way he talked...was annoying to me. I really hope he won't be like that this time around.[/QUOTE] Wow, I can't believe there are this many non-Rupert fans in one place! It must be an internet record. Oh ya, count me in.
Jerri & Colby I don't mind seeing again cause Australia is my favorite season and I well because I just like them. I understand Rupert & James are very likeable fan favorites so I understand wanting to bring them back I just don't think they add anything except physical strength. I don't like how Rupert (just like Russell) feels entitled to win.
[QUOTE=Bolt8;147194]Jerri & Colby I don't mind seeing again cause Australia is my favorite season and I well because I just like them. I understand Rupert & James are very likeable fan favorites so I understand wanting to bring them back I just don't think they add anything except physical strength. [B]I don't like how Rupert (just like Russell) feels entitled to win.[/B][/QUOTE] I would guess it's because at the end of his season he was called one of the most likable, popular, and best Survivors yet. That just got into his head.
Well that makes me like him even less.
I think the first All-Star season was an obvious look at who production felt were the best winners. You had 4 out of the first 7 (Richard, Tina, Ethan, and Jenna) and Sandra was invited but did not go due to some parasite she picked up from Pearl Islands. Supposedly Brian was invited but wanted some ridiculous stipend to appear so did not get on, Vecepia was not invited. Thailand had only one representative in Shii-Ann, Marquesas only had Kathy and Boston Rob, two of the most likable characters on that season, Amazon only had Jenna and Rob, again, two of the most likable characters, and Pearl Islands only had Rupert, again...the most likable guy on that season. It was obvious that they heavily relied on their characters from the first 3 seasons to make that all-star season work.
Here's a quick list of how many tribal councils each winner had to sit through. Tom from Palau has the least (7), and Natalie from Samoa has the most (14). Rich: 12 (3 before merge) Tina: 11 (3 before merge) Ethan: 11 (3 before merge) Vecepia: 12 (4 before merge) Brian: 9 (3 before merge) Jenna: 11 (3 before merge) Sandra: 12 (4 before merge) Amber: 9 (2 before merge) Chris: 12 (4 before merge) Tom: 7 (1 before merge) Danni: 12 (4 before merge) Aras: 9 (2 before merge) Yul: 9 (3 before merge) Earl: 9 (3 before merge) Todd: 9 (2 before merge) Parvati: 9 (2 before merge) Bob: 9 (3 before merge) JT: 11 (4 before merge) Natalie: 14 (5 before merge)
That to me shows how good J.T./ Ethan played as their were plenty of opportunities to get them out but yet they made it to the end. I feel they both played very similar. As for cirie I don't think she was worthy of one all star season and another is definite over kill. I really was hoping instead of an all star season as they have made(good vs. bad) they would put winners vs. losers. In which would have a team of 9/10 winners compete agianst 9 players who came very close or had massive colapses that cost them the game.
[QUOTE=mr.unamazing;147212] I really was hoping instead of an all star season as they have made(good vs. bad) they would put winners vs. losers. In which would have a team of 9/10 winners compete agianst 9 players who came very close or had massive colapses that cost them the game.[/QUOTE] That'd be kind of cool. In a lot of the seasons with 2 in the finals, the person who won the last immunity and placed the final vote ended up losing (Kelly, Colby, Kim J, Neleh, Lil, Boston Rob, Danielle, Amanda)
Miscellaneous voting/challenge/people stats going into HVV from their prior 1 or 2 seasons (you'll have to click it to see it better): [URL="http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=4966"][IMG]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/2324b3a55033a3ec.jpg[/IMG][/URL] The asteriks for Amanda and Russell are because they played idols. None of Amanda's 4 votes have ever counted against her, and only 2 of Russell's 9 have ever counted.
[QUOTE=Lamb Chop!!!;147013]I heard that Courtney from the EI season was asked, but declined. Danielle was the next best I guess...[/QUOTE] Courtney wouldve been an excellent choice! She was so crazy, her and Shane together cracked me up. Why wasnt Shane asked? Both of them wouldve been better choices over Danielle or Natalie.
Little stats about ages: Youngest male to win Survivor: Todd Herzog (22) Youngest female to win Survivor: Jenna Morasca (21) Youngest male runner-up: Ozzy Lusth and Dre "Dreamz" Herd (25) Youngest female runner-up: Neleh Dennis (21) Oldest male to win Survivor: Bob Crowley (57) Oldest female to win Survivor: Tina Wesson (39) Oldest male runner-up: Clay Jordan (46) Oldest female runner-up: Kim Johnson (56) Ages of winners and their runners-up: Richard: 39 (Kelly: 22) Tina: 39 (Colby: 26) Ethan: 27 (Kim: 56) Vecepia: 36 (Neleh: 21) Brian: 34 (Clay: 46) Jenna: 21 (Matthew: 33) Sandra: 29 (Lil: 51) Amber: 25 (Rob: 27) Chris: 33 (Twila: 41) Tom: 40 (Katie: 29) Danni: 30 (Steph:25) Aras: 24 (Danielle: 24) Yul: 31 (Ozzy: 25; Becky: 28) Earl: 35 (Cassandra 42; Dre 25) Todd: 22 (Amanda: 23; Courtney: 26) Parvati: 25 (Amanda: 23) Bob: 57 (Susie: 47; Sugar: 29) JT: 24 (Stephen: 29) Natalie: 26 (Russell: 36; Mick: 33) Average age of winners: 31.42 years old Average age of runners-up: 31.96 years old
[QUOTE=Aquatta;147222]Courtney wouldve been an excellent choice! She was so crazy, her and Shane together cracked me up. Why wasnt Shane asked? Both of them wouldve been better choices over Danielle or Natalie.[/QUOTE] Shane was asked as an alternate, and was super pissed when he wasn't chosen.
I forgot all about Bob he was awesome, though his friend was a total loose cannon.
[QUOTE=mr.unamazing;147212]That to me shows how good J.T./ Ethan played as their were plenty of opportunities to get them out but yet they made it to the end. I feel they both played very similar. [/QUOTE] See I think you can take that list a number of ways...you can either say "Hey, this person played great because they kept their neck off the chopping block so many times", or you can say "Hey, this person must have played a pretty decent physical game to keep their *** out of tribal council" or in the case of Tom, "Hey, this person got really lucky that they never switched up tribes this time around".
[QUOTE=molds13;146213]Absolutely. The Have vs Have Not twist was ridiculous and the final 3 was just bad. I can't even name the final 3 except Earl and that stupid Dreamz guy. What kind of a name is Dreamz anyway? I think Earl is the guy that no one remembers winning Survivor. Pearl Islands was decent with the combo of Fairplay and Rupert but the outcast twist did kind of suck. So did that final 2. Sandra is probably one of my least favorite winners. Lill winning would have been even worse. I thought the final 4 in Thailand was the worst in history, and was definitely one of the worst seasons along with Fiji and Africa (which was just boring). I think my favorite seasons would be Micronesia, Australian Outback, and Borneo, which is what got me hooked on Survivor in the first place (even if the cast was forgettable).[/QUOTE] Agree with everything you said about Fiji, I absolutely hated that season. Probably the worst season ever. I loved PI, just loved Fairplay and Rupert combo along with Sandra. I love that she won the game and I still dont see how, she never won a single immunity challenge but yet won the game. Guess that's where the social aspect comes into play. I loved Sandra and how she would go off on people & she was very loyal and smart. She was a good winner in my eyes, glad she is back for HVV. Agree that Thailand was pretty bad, my least fave seasons are Thailand, Fiji, Amazon (first & only season I stopped watching), and probably Tocantins. Favorite seasons would be Borneo (of course), Pearl Islands, & Cook Islands.
[QUOTE=molds13;147224]Shane was asked as an alternate, and was super pissed when he wasn't chosen.[/QUOTE] Oh wow what a crime that he didnt make the show. I mean Tyson made it over Shane? Coach is enough, we dont need his sidekick on the show with him again. What in the heck were they thinking? Bad move. I wouldve loved to have seen Shane back along with EI Courtney over Danielle. They were probably the best duo of that season. One of my favorite seasons ever.
I'm a bit surprised that Rob Cesternino from the Amazon season isn't on this season. He didn't really get to play long on the original All Stars season so I'm surprised that he wasn't asked for this one.
[QUOTE=Aquatta;147232]Agree with everything you said about Fiji, I absolutely hated that season. Probably the worst season ever. [/QUOTE] Wait, what? We agree on something? Someone take a picture :D [QUOTE]I loved PI, just loved Fairplay and Rupert combo along with Sandra. I love that she won the game and I still dont see how, she never won a single immunity challenge but yet won the game. Guess that's where the social aspect comes into play. I loved Sandra and how she would go off on people & she was very loyal and smart. She was a good winner in my eyes, glad she is back for HVV.[/QUOTE] Rewatching Pearl Islands, I do have a lot more respect for the season. I wouldn't go as far as saying that Sandra is one of my least favorite winners ever now (she still isn't one of my favorites, and I explained why in the HVV spoiler thread), but I am standing firm on Lil. She was still pretty awful. [QUOTE]Agree that Thailand was pretty bad, my least fave seasons are Thailand, Fiji, Amazon (first & only season I stopped watching), and probably Tocantins. Favorite seasons would be Borneo (of course), Pearl Islands, & Cook Islands.[/QUOTE] I would add Gabon to the least favorite list and add Micronesia to the favorites. Other than that, pretty spot on.
I liked fans vs. Favorites as well but found it disheartening when people like Chet make it that far doing nothing. Also with all the people having to be medically evacuated James and Penner, with the lack of using the idol Jason,Ozzy, and Erik. Left for a medicore finish. I usually find that the people who make the final are either the most boring or the people who aren't worthy of the win and the people who played better went home sooner.
[QUOTE=Aquatta;147234]Oh wow what a crime that he didnt make the show. I mean Tyson made it over Shane? Coach is enough, we dont need his sidekick on the show with him again. What in the heck were they thinking? Bad move. I wouldve loved to have seen Shane back along with EI Courtney over Danielle. They were probably the best duo of that season. One of my favorite seasons ever.[/QUOTE] Somewhere around here is the blog that Shane wrote about not being picked. He was pissed. He got screwed, and he made sure that everyone knew about it.
[QUOTE=molds13;147238]Somewhere around here is the blog that Shane wrote about not being picked. He was pissed. He got screwed, and he made sure that everyone knew about it.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.shanepowers.com/2009/08/attn-someone.html"]Shane Powers: Attn: Someone[/URL] Ironically, he now exchanges friendly tweets with Erika Shay.
Since when is someone entitled to be on the show. Sure he was pretty good on the show but still it's their show. I think it would have made more mad if the winner had been asked to come on the show. Also how is Cirie a hero?
[QUOTE=mr.unamazing;147244]Since when is someone entitled to be on the show. Sure he was pretty good on the show but [B]still it's their show[/B]. I think it would have made more mad if the winner had been asked to come on the show. Also how is Cirie a hero?[/QUOTE]Ehh...it kind of bugs me that people like Lynne Spillman and Erika Shay think it is their show that exists for the sole benefit of their friends. There is no excuse for Danielle DiLorenzo but TDT said back in August that she has friends in casting so that's how she gets on. Even back for Parvati and Amanda in season 16, there were better choices than them at the time, but they are/were BFF with Erika.
Isn't Erika from Big Brother? If so isn't that a funny coincidence ;)
[QUOTE=ssseeeaaann;147253]Ehh...it kind of bugs me that people like Lynne Spillman and Erika Shay think it is their show that exists for the sole benefit of their friends. There is no excuse for Danielle DiLorenzo but TDT said back in August that she has friends in casting so that's how she gets on. Even back for Parvati and Amanda in season 16, there were better choices than them at the time, but they are/were BFF with Erika.[/QUOTE] Exactly! I would rather see Peih-Gee, Twila, or even someone like Alicia instead of Danielle. I know that Twila called out the casting so I doubt she will EVER be invited back. She was upset about Eliza being on FvF, but I think that Eliza was a big character on Vanuatu so I think that she was a reasonable choice.

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