[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;146868]For me 3 people aren't enough to stop me watching. I still want to see the people like Katie, Brad, Jenn, Rachel, Mark, Tori, Kim, Cohutta ect. but clearly they are stopping many, many, many people from watching....
Look at how the ratings have changed since JEK started running the show[/QUOTE]
I don't give a flying **** about the ratings, and I don't think the ratings for any show are legit, esp. since not everyone has a ratings box on their tv and they clearly don't count the online viewings.
Regardless, hardly any of MTV's shows do well. MTV itself is a ****ty channel.
[QUOTE=tjhallow;146888]I don't give a flying **** about the ratings, and I don't think the ratings for any show are legit, esp. since not everyone has a ratings box on their tv and they clearly don't count the online viewings.
Regardless, hardly any of MTV's shows do well. MTV itself is a ****ty channel.[/QUOTE]
I think mtv probably gives a **** about ratings and if they keep going like they are now then we will probably have no more challenges in a couple of years..
[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;146893]I think mtv probably gives a **** about ratings and if they keep going like they are now then we will probably have no more challenges in a couple of years..[/QUOTE]
Well I guess they are going to have to cancel the hills and the city as well, and thats right, they're not, since they both got picked up for another season.
[QUOTE=blanky667;146863]Also Aquatta, don't get me wrong. I have no problem with you throwing in your two cents. But how can you pass such rude judgements on JEK based on a heavily edited show? You say they're poison, they ruin the show, they're *****, their clothing line sucks, [B]Evan is a horseface[/B], blah blah blah... but you, being someone who has watched these shows for fourteen years, should know that its mostly the edit. Johnny, Kenny, and Evan are friends with many people outside of these shows. Don't you think if they were THAT bad in real life, that they would be hated amongst the other castmembers as well? Come on!
But, oh well. People will continue to tune in nonethless to see if the horrible villains lose for once...[/QUOTE]
And only one of those are true. Not saying wich 1 of horse! I mean course!
[QUOTE=blanky667;146849]It actually amazes me how some people believe that 51 Minds' "Of Love" series is much better than the Real World and Road Rules. Have you seen the ratings for Real Chance of Love 2 and For the Love of Ray J 2? :laugh1:
Well anyway, hopefully The Real World DC can pick it up ratings wise.[/QUOTE]
I think the "Of Love" series is much more entertaining. I mean, RW and RR have way too many normal people on the shows. But I still enjoy both.
I think half the reality shows on MTV should be canceled so they start playing videos again. As for the Challenges, they need to change up the format and make it either randomized teams for each mission or make it more of an individualized game like the Battles were.
[QUOTE=Desertpuma;146989]I think half the reality shows on MTV should be canceled so they start playing videos again. .[/QUOTE]
Well, that is what MTV2 was for...until it also became a second rate reality channel.
[QUOTE=tjhallow;146837]Actually JEK are the most talked about castmembers...love them or hate them but whatever.
Regardless, keep watching, complaining, *****ing...I love it.
If it was really that much of a problem, ya'll wouldn't watch or comment. I hardly ever watch vh1 shows anymore cause i can't stand them, and I hardly ever comment on them. If ya'll are taking that much time to criticize and *****, then its obviously having an affect.
[B]Reading these comments about how you hate something so much and your still talking about it is more entertaining than the show itself, so keep me entertained..i love it.[/B][/QUOTE]
That's just the point, they may be the most talked about castmembers but look how ratings have drastically declined since they have been in charge.
I'm with you there. This conversation sure is a helluva lot more entertaining than watching an episode of the Challenge, lol.
[QUOTE=blanky667;146849]It actually amazes me how some people believe that 51 Minds' "Of Love" series is much better than the Real World and Road Rules. Have you seen the ratings for Real Chance of Love 2 and For the Love of Ray J 2? :laugh1:
Well anyway, hopefully The Real World DC can pick it up ratings wise.[/QUOTE]
Even with a god awful show like FTLORJ2 I feel 51 Minds shows are better. Now get to the real shows like Flava of Love, Rock of Love, Charm School and I Love Money and there is no competition. Those shows are light years ahead of the entertainment value that [B]CURRENT[/B] RW & Challenges provide (I wont include RR since it is cancelled).
And no I havent seen the ratings for RCOL2 and FTLORJ2, how are they? I hope they are really bad so they all wont be asked back for 3rd installments. I say bring back Bret and NY to save a franchise that is in trouble. I think 51 Minds is in real bad shape with the Ryan murder affecting ILM and duds like DOL, FTLORJ 2 & RCOL2.
[QUOTE=blanky667;146863]Also Aquatta, don't get me wrong. I have no problem with you throwing in your two cents. But how can you pass such rude judgements on JEK based on a heavily edited show? You say they're poison, they ruin the show, they're *****, their clothing line sucks, Evan is a horseface, blah blah blah... but you, being someone who has watched these shows for fourteen years, should know that its mostly the edit. Johnny, Kenny, and Evan are friends with many people outside of these shows. Don't you think if they were THAT bad in real life, that they would be hated amongst the other castmembers as well? Come on!
But, oh well. People will continue to tune in nonethless to see if the horrible villains lose for once...[/QUOTE]
True the show is editing but just like the true old schoolers said, it is edited but they work with the footage you provide them (you can reference the 1996 Real World Reunion for that point proven). So I am sure JEK arent running around being complete charming angels yet the editors edit them into the a holes they come off as. Last I checked, the shows are really bad now because of them, yup thats poision. They're clothing line is really bad and looks like a 3 year old designed them so not a read there, just the truth. And I have eyes so Horseface does resemble a horse so um yea not passing off rude judgements just telling the truth. Oh and last I checked they were hated by several people like Katie, Coral and when I met Abram in person he himself mentioned what a dbag Johnny is.
Oh and I wont be tuning into another challenge to see them win or lose. The only way I can come back to watch another one is if these people are on it: Veronica, Jisela, Heather B., Flora, Tami, Puck, David E., Melissa Padron, Emily, Belou, Yes, Ayanna, or in other words people I can probably bet wont be back.
I would say about 10% of reality shows are worth watching. The only ones on VH1 I pay any attention to are Dr. Drew's shows. I've seen the Strictest Parents one a couple of times and seen value in it because there is too much "spare the rod, spoil the child" syndrome in this country.
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