[quote=V1man;84497]Hmmm, Katie and Casey have worked well together away from TV. Not sure there is any enmity between them to exploit.[/quote]
Damn, but this game does make friends turn into enemies sometimes ;)
So I was just reading speculation threads from the Island..
I am no longer speculating because some of the things that were written were just completely off. And they actually made me laugh, thinking about how the challenge turned out. I haven't been commenting a lot in here lately but now I'm just done, because some of things that were written make me LOL.
I think I will just wait until things air, to begin to speculate.
expect the unexpected.....
[quote=Dartagnan;84469]I am also getting extremely excited over the hints that Katie blew up.[/quote]
I wouldn't get too excited about it I mean she Blew up on the Guantlet 3 but it left much to be desired.
[quote=jones10389;84577]I have to say if the Final Misson is Sarah and KellyAnne vs Johnny,Kenny,derrick,Evan and Susie it's going to be a blowout.[/quote]
I don't believe that at all. The smaller team wins 9 times out of 10 ;)
[quote=RMD1;84583]I don't believe that at all. The smaller team wins 9 times out of 10 ;)[/quote]
Larger Team Wins
Gauntlet 1
Inferno 1
Gauntlet 2
The Island
And on these challenges the teams were dead even or there were no teams
Duel
Fresh Meat
Inferno 3
Duel 2
These Challengers ur point is right
Gauntlet 3
Inferno 2
the larger/stronger teams won. That logic is flawed.
Therefore 2/10 times the smaller team wins.
Edit not to mention the Men def. The Women on both Battle of the Sexes. Which would actually get Kelly Ann and Sarah 2/12 chance of wining.
There is a strong 84% chance that Team JKE have won.
[quote=V1man;84233]There are no "rules" regarding who is cast. They pick who they want for Q ratings and possible story lines from among those who are available and interested.[/quote]
Then that's pretty ridiculous as a doornail then. I mean possible storylines? I thought this was Reality TV?
[QUOTE=Zachary;84589]Then that's pretty ridiculous as a doornail then. I mean possible storylines? I thought this was Reality TV?[/QUOTE]
Ridiculous as a doornail? Can't say I've heard that one before.
It is reality television, but it's also a business...they're going to do what they deem necessary to get the viewers and ratings that they desire.
[quote=MizFit2009]Therefore 2/10 times the smaller team wins.[/quote]
History also shows us that on team challenges where the final teams are mixed gender, predominately female teams (Gauntlet 1, Inferno 1, Gauntlet 3) have won just as many times as predominately male teams (Inferno 2, Gauntlet 2, Island). Granted, Kelly Anne & Sarah are an exclusively (rather than predominately) female team but if we look toward the past, it's not fair to count them out.
Of course, I could be wishfully thinking (about something that has already happened) because there is absolutely no one on the red team who I'd be satisfied to see win, but I do hope Sarah and KA overcame what seems to be a huge disadvantage. The design of the final mission really could have been almost anything.
I really hope that KellyAnne and Sarah pulled off the win. I think the team format is basically Rookies vs Veterans. The Challengers team color is Blue and The Champions team color is Red, not to mention everyone on The Champion team is a Veteran! The Challenger side is mostly Rookies.
I can't wait until this challenge airs. Are there actual elimination rounds or face offs like The Island?
[quote=MizFit2009;84588]Larger Team Wins
Gauntlet 1
Inferno 1
Gauntlet 2
The Island
And on these challenges the teams were dead even or there were no teams
Duel
Fresh Meat
Inferno 3
Duel 2
These Challengers ur point is right
Gauntlet 3
Inferno 2
the larger/stronger teams won. That logic is flawed.
Therefore 2/10 times the smaller team wins.
Edit not to mention the Men def. The Women on both Battle of the Sexes. Which would actually get Kelly Ann and Sarah 2/12 chance of wining.
There is a strong 84% chance that Team JKE have won.[/quote]
There are also more variables. On G1 there was the spider bite thing with Coral, if that didn't happen they would have won. The inferno all came down to the puzzle, the smaller team beat them running wise. G2 you can't even count as a final mission. It flat out sucked. and the Island was 4 vs 4.
[quote=RMD1;84606]There are also more variables. On G1 there was the spider bite thing with Coral, if that didn't happen they would have won. The inferno all came down to the puzzle, the smaller team beat them running wise. G2 you can't even count as a final mission. It flat out sucked. and the Island was 4 vs 4.[/quote]
Very true. ON GII, Vets had seven people (three guys and four girls) and Rookies had nine people (five guys and four girls). I think even in a final like the one that took place in GIII, the rookie team would of still pulled through. GII rookie team was stacked.
I truly think it all depends on the players and the way they separate teams. On GIII, the team separation was absurd. Rookies best player, let's say Frank for example, versus the veterans best CT, Brad, or Evan. Or even Evelyn, lol. GIII was a fun one to watch, but in terms of team make up, the males on the veteran team were just plain better than the rookie ones. What the rookies lacked in physical ability they made up for in smarts because the vets didn't trim the proper fat in terms of Big Easy.
Anyway, I think it really is just about who is on the challenge, how the teams are divided, rules of the final mission, etc. Let's hope KA and Sarah can pull a victory. If they can't, I think their is going to be a lot of angry viewers and even more Evan/Kenny haters.
[QUOTE=Zachary;84589]Then that's pretty ridiculous as a doornail then. I mean possible storylines? I thought this was Reality TV?[/QUOTE]
If I were to extrapolate you concept from what little you wrote, I would call that a documentary, not reality TV.
Did you become a vevmo "elite member" by posting but never learning?
One storyline from the casting perspective is obvious:
[B]Relationship conflict/sexual tension[/B] among:
1 - Wes/Johanna
2 - Wes/Kelly Anne
3 - Kenny/Johanna
4- Kenny/Wes
5 - Johanna/Kelly Anne
6 - Kelly Anne/Cohutta
7 - Cohutta/ ?? (during casting you ask women what they think of him)
8 - Kenny/ ?? (during casting you ask women what they think of him)
The above is one sample storyline from The Ruins casting. There are eight possible branches to it plus some involving other cast members which I could not predict. Each branch of the storyline will likely be evident both in the physical and social game play.
Good reality TV creates a situation and then the camera captures how people respond within a given situation. Clearly the producers manipulate the cast through the house design (confined space), access to escapist outlets (no books, TV, music), the provision of alcohol, and the game design, including the dictation of teams,
In some cases a smaller team is better but come on there is no way KellyAnne and Sarah a new comer can beat Kenny,Evan,Johnny,Derrick and Susie i just don't think they can do it.
1 other question who takes out Wes?
[quote=jones10389;84622]In some cases a smaller team is better but come on there is no way KellyAnne and Sarah a new comer can beat Kenny,Evan,Johnny,Derrick and Susie i just don't think they can do it.
1 other question who takes out Wes?[/quote]
Being a "new comer" has nothing to do with it.
Also: You can answer your own question. Just do some reading ;)
The thing I am sorta confused about this challenge is the large number of eliminations that have occurred. Considering how more than half of the total cast of 28 is eliminated through eliminations round, there could have been the possibility that one team (most like the challengers) lost all of their players before the final mission.
[QUOTE=caraloverr;84636]The thing I am sorta confused about this challenge is the large number of eliminations that have occurred. Considering how more than half of the total cast of 28 is eliminated through eliminations round, there could have been the possibility that one team (most like the challengers) lost all of their players before the final mission.[/QUOTE]
You make far to many false assumptions. In the fall when the challenge airs, you will understand why I say this.
[QUOTE=gamer73;84644]Why can't vevmo confirm the teams do they not know them?[/QUOTE]
There are many things about the challenges and other shows that we simply elect not to share. The site does not exist to spoil the outcome of TV shows.
[quote=jones10389;84622]In some cases a smaller team is better but come on there is no way KellyAnne and Sarah a new comer can beat Kenny,Evan,Johnny,Derrick and Susie i just don't think they can do it.
1 other question who takes out Wes?[/quote]
Its not a matter of being a newcomer. Four guys/Susie against Sara/Kellyanne is such an uneven playing field that it's not even funny. Therefore, circumstanes don't favor kellyanne/Sara. However, i hold out hope that Sara/Kellyanne wins.
[QUOTE=trees12;84679]Its not a matter of being a newcomer. Four guys/Susie against Sara/Kellyanne is such an uneven playing field that it's not even funny. Therefore, circumstanes don't favor kellyanne/Sara. However, i hold out hope that Sara/Kellyanne wins.[/QUOTE]
You should probably hold that thought until you know what the final mission actually is. Perhaps its design was intended to comply with the Game Show Act and be fair to all parties.
[quote=V1man;84681]You should probably hold that thought until you know what the final mission actually is. Perhaps its design was intended to comply with the Game Show Act and be fair to all parties.[/quote]
That's why I said I hold out hope that Kellyanne/Sara pull a win. Thanks for the extra reassurance V.
[quote=V1man;84681]You should probably hold that thought until you know what the final mission actually is. Perhaps its design was intended to comply with the Game Show Act and be fair to all parties.[/quote]
I thought that "act" would not hold true because they are in another country?
[quote=V1man;84614]If I were to extrapolate you concept from what little you wrote, I would call that a documentary, not reality TV.
Did you become a vevmo "elite member" by posting but never learning?
One storyline from the casting perspective is obvious:
[B]Relationship conflict/sexual tension[/B] among:
1 - Wes/Johanna
2 - Wes/Kelly Anne
3 - Kenny/Johanna
4- Kenny/Wes
5 - Johanna/Kelly Anne
6 - Kelly Anne/Cohutta
7 - Cohutta/ ?? (during casting you ask women what they think of him)
8 - Kenny/ ?? (during casting you ask women what they think of him)
The above is one sample storyline from The Ruins casting. There are eight possible branches to it plus some involving other cast members which I could not predict. Each branch of the storyline will likely be evident both in the physical and social game play.
Good reality TV creates a situation and then the camera captures how people respond within a given situation. Clearly the producers manipulate the cast through the house design (confined space), access to escapist outlets (no books, TV, music), the provision of alcohol, and the game design, including the dictation of teams,[/quote]
But why can't they just cast the series and let it play from there?
[quote=Zachary;84699]But why can't they just cast the series and let it play from there?[/quote]
The RWRR challenges are all based on past drama! They need to look at that then cast.
[quote=Zachary;84699]But why can't they just cast the series and let it play from there?[/quote]
I really don't think I can help you if you don't understand that reality TV is a business; it is not a game. Careers rise and fall on a single rating point. There is no way anyone will leave this stuff to chance.
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